Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

No harm in reporting it, if you have suspicions then report, no harm will come of it to either party if the suspicions are confirmed to be untrue. People shouldn't be able to do this!

Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.


Maybe they like living in Sheffield. My parents are probably rich enough to pay the bills for three houses, but that doesn't mean they feel the need to move to another town!

It could be that the grand parents are wealthy, it could be that they bought the other houses years ago at a good price as an investment.

I'd say that unless you have proof that they are claiming benefits that they're not entitled to, then you shouldn't report them.

If you know for a fact that they are committing fraud then you should report it. If you don't know that they are, but you are jealous of their lifestyle then I wouldn't bother.

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

Do you not have a "Get a life club" in your area that you could join? :suspect:

If you have no actual evidence then I would suggest minding your own business is the best course of action

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

Yeuch!! I feel dirty just having read that. You are basically snooping on somebody you don't know who doesn't even live on the same road as you and you want to report them to the DSS on the strength of a load of gossip?

I'd sooner live in a society with a certain level of benefit fraud than one fuill of malicious snoopers and curtain twictchers coming on internet forums and acting like their low down tittle tattle is for the benefit of society. Yeuch!!!

Yeuch!! I feel dirty just having read that. You are basically snooping on somebody you don't know who doesn't even live on the same road as you and you want to report them to the DSS on the strength of a load of gossip?

I'd sooner live in a society with a certain level of benefit fraud than one fuill of malicious snoopers and curtain twictchers coming on internet forums and acting like their low down tittle tattle is for the benefit of society. Yeuch!!!

Your post sums up exactly how I feel.

If you have no actual evidence then I would suggest minding your own business is the best course of action

Precisely wrong. The investigation team are qualified to gather evidence, but they don't know which families to check on if nobody reports their suspicions!

Precisely wrong. The investigation team are qualified to gather evidence, but they don't know which families to check on if nobody reports their suspicions!

But the benefits system is inept and unprofessional, with a tendency to halt benefits during and investigation before anything has been proved one way or another.

So, by reporting this family (for which there seems to be no evidence whatsoever that they're engaged in fraud), the risk is that they will be put in hardship when they could be totally innocent.

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

You should get a girlfriend, or a car, or maybe even a girlfriend with a car.
this could open up a whole new world for you.

Precisely wrong. The investigation team are qualified to gather evidence, but they don't know which families to check on if nobody reports their suspicions!


If the investigation teams were to investigate every suspicion based on curtain twitching my guess would be that those teams would have to be increased 50+ fold. As has been mentioned, in the likelihood of benefit being suspended in all or many cases then that would be good enough a vindictive incentive to report someone.

As swami highlighted in post #5, all dangerous hear say and conjecture.

On that note I'm gonna run with donkey and AJ and say yeuch!

Get a grip ...you sound worse than any benefit fraudster pretty twisted and malicious, and I would be carefull of whom you accuse of what because it could come back to bite you in the arse.
nowt worse than a nosey old git sticking their nose in other peoples business.


Anyone fancy a nice cold glass of bitter lemon?

Yeuch!! I feel dirty just having read that. You are basically snooping on somebody you don't know who doesn't even live on the same road as you and you want to report them to the DSS on the strength of a load of gossip?

I'd sooner live in a society with a certain level of benefit fraud than one fuill of malicious snoopers and curtain twictchers coming on internet forums and acting like their low down tittle tattle is for the benefit of society. Yeuch!!!

Your post sums up exactly how I feel.

If the investigation teams were to investigate every suspicion based on curtain twitching my guess would be that those teams would have to be increased 50+ fold. As has been mentioned, in the likelihood of benefit being suspended in all or many cases then that would be good enough a vindictive incentive to report someone.

As swami highlighted in post #5, all dangerous hear say and conjecture.

On that note I'm gonna run with donkey and AJ and say yeuch!

I'm also going with Donkey, AJ, Swami and everyone else who reckons you need to gey out more.

I would agree with the bunch of posters attacking the OP that he/she seems to be having suspicions based on gossip and perceived lifestyle rather than any evidence of fraud, but come on people - it sounds as though you're defending benefit fraudsters.

I would agree with the bunch of posters attacking the OP that he/she seems to be having suspicions based on gossip and perceived lifestyle rather than any evidence of fraud, but come on people - it sounds as though you're defending benefit fraudsters.

No it doesn't.

All anyone's saying is that, if there's zero evidence that a family is committing fruad, then they should not be reported to the benefits investigators.

The old cliched 'if they've done nothing wrong, there's nothing to fear' rubbish does not apply, as, anyone investigated by the benefits people is at risk of having their benefits stopped regardless of whether they're innocent or not.

Like the OP, the benefits system is happy to make things miserable for people without any evidence whatsoever.

If you have no actual evidence then I would suggest minding your own business is the best course of action

Yeah, and that's why £1 out of every £3 collected is going on benefits and this country is in the mess its in.

Next on my list would be those who don't work yet have big tellies and Sky subscriptions!

If those who claim to be holier than thou, are able to swear that they have neither given nor taken cash in hand, then go ahead and report your suspected benefit fraudster. ;)

You are going merely on hearsay.....and your own suspicions. You appear to have nothing or very little in the way of actual evidence.

You know something.....it's not your drama. Just concentrate on you are your family.

Nothing more to see here....move along.

I was reported earlier this year by one of my neighbours ( I get IB) for a couple of ailments which I won't go into as they are my business, Anyway a nice chap came to see me and said that the reason I had been reported because said N thought I was claiming for a bad back(not) and he had seen me move some snow off my drive and work in my garden.

Chap stayed 10mins at most, was very nice and said he was sorry to bother me but malicious (which they knew from the call anon) or not they had to investigate.

I had a week of worry for nothing even though I knew I had done nothing wrong.

Still if the OP feels this will make him/her feel morally superior then by all means go ahead. If the people have done nothing wrong then they have nothing to worry about.

By the way, the chap who reported me claims himself AND works on the fiddle. No I never told on him, always believed, "what goes around, comes around."

Yeah, and that's why £1 out of every £3 collected is going on benefits and this country is in the mess its in.

Next on my list would be those who don't work yet have big tellies and Sky subscriptions!

It's perfectly legitimate to claim JSA [for 6 months] if you have a million pounds in the bank, as long as you've made your contributions. Just because someone is on benefits, doesn't mean they are poor.

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

You nasty little person, you have no prove at all that those people are breaking the law yet you still snoop on them.
Go ahead and report them if you like but you may be creating problems for innocent people.

Get a life you sad little man.:rant:

I don't like to be judgmental about people, but the op is vile! Nebulous accusations built on self righteous suppositions and conclusions, a tissue of chinese whispers with very little foundation.

Please don't thank me, I wish I hadn't read your 'rant' at all, I feel I want to wash my mind out with bleach, now.

Precisely wrong. The investigation team are qualified to gather evidence, but they don't know which families to check on if nobody reports their suspicions!

Suspicion without evidence is no more than gossip.

All the current negative press re benefit claimants,and exagerated claims,have thrown up the holier than thou attitude.
many of todays families,even those in work claim tax credit or housing benefit and its people like the OP that make others feel that may be doing something wrong.
Is there not ENOUGH genuine crime around our lives today that this person could engage thier day in solving.
Makes me feel sick that someone watches our every move and makes exagerated assumptions,all boils down to jealousy,in my humble opinion:rant:

I think the OP could be on to something here!

If we all reported each other for suspected offences (benefit fraud, public nuisance, noise, litter or just because we don't like our neighbours), think of the number of new jobs we could create to investigate these claims, which would stimulate the local economy!

May need to think this one through a bit, and don't yet know who will pay these people, but I'm working on it! Any ideas? :huh:

I wonder how much money the government loses each year investigating false accusations and hearsay, and how many lives are affected by it?

It must be awfull having that feeling that your neighbours are watching your every move through spite tinted glasses.

If you know something for a fact then report away, if Mrs Smith at number 26 heard from her nephews friends mum that something may be going on, then dont. I would have thought it was that bloody simple!

My father was a sick man towards the end, diabetes, kidney failure, heart disease, and diminishing eyesight, he needed 24 hour help and care.
As a family we could only provide so much, we have children of our own, we had to bathe him, drive him about, and look after him.
He had his own flat and was in a 17 year relationship, to which they both lived separately.

Some turd grassed him up for staying at his girlfriends for more than 3 nights a week, both he and his girlfriend accrued debts with the social and the housing the system wasn't providing him any care (other than drugs dialysis and benefits), it was his family and girlfriend that he was forced to rely on.
He couldn't receive care because he had his girlfriend and family to rely on, go figure.

Needless to say, the next 5 years became an extreme struggle, having to pay back his debts meant that he had even less to live on, and not being able to stay at his partners for fear of the housing/social jumping on them again meant that a dying man had to go four days a week for 5 years with little to no care, until inevitably he dropped dead.
His partner could not stay at his flat because she had obligations to her own children, grandchildren.


My father was deaf, he couldn't phone us to let us know that he'd not been able to feed himself for days, he'd not been able to bathe and stuff.
And because he was a proud man, he wouldn't let on the difficulties he was having to live through.

So to the op, yeah by all means stick yer nose in where it don't belong, you obviously have nothing better to do with yourself.

I don't like to be judgmental about people, but the op is vile! Nebulous accusations built on self righteous suppositions and conclusions, a tissue of chinese whispers with very little foundation.

Please don't thank me, I wish I hadn't read your 'rant' at all, I feel I want to wash my mind out with bleach, now.

... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud?

... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud?Do you think from the information contained in the op, that it's very likely? As I said, it reads to me like a load of 'he said, she said' about someone they don't even know.

But if you think it might be correct, you're quite entitled to tell the threadstarter to go right ahead and report them on the basis of spiteful gossip and supposition about the family circumstances. I would not.

I would like to stick my opinion in here.

My father was a sick man towards the end, diabetes, kidney failure, heart disease, and diminishing eyesight, he needed 24 hour help and care.
As a family we could only provide so much, we have children of our own, we had to bathe him, drive him about, and look after him.
He had his own flat and was in a 17 year relationship, to which they both lived separately.

Some turd grassed him up for staying at his girlfriends for more than 3 nights a week, both he and his girlfriend accrued debts with the social and the housing because nobody was providing him any care, it was his family and girlfriends that he was forced to rely on.

Needless to say, the next 5 years became an extreme struggle, having to pay back his debts meant that he had even less to live on, and not being able to stay at his partners for fear of the housing/social jumping on them again meant that a dying man had to go four days a week with little to no care.
His partner could not stay at his flat because she had obligations to her own children, grandchildren.

My father was deaf, he couldn't phone us to let us know that he'd not been able to feed himself for days, he'd not been able to bathe and stuff.
And because he was a proud man, he wouldn't let on the difficulties he was having to live through.

So to the op, yeah by all means stick yer nose in where it don't belong, you obviously have nothing better to do with yourself.

I sincerely sympathise with this - if this example is breaking the rules then the system needs changing!

Anyone in this position should not have to worry about how many people may decide to report them - the system should cater for individual cases without any inconvenience to the person whatsoever. :mad:

Do you think from the information contained in the op, that it's very likely? As I said, it reads to me like a load of 'he said, she said' about someone they don't even know.

But if you think it might be correct, you're quite entitled to tell the threadstarter to go right ahead and report them on the basis of spiteful gossip and supposition about the family circumstances. I would not.

As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it.

Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it?

... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud?

Then no doubt it would be easy to obtain evidence, which is different to spreading hearsay.

As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it. Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it?I've given you my answer and explained my reasons. Maybe you could now endeavour to persuade some of the other posters on this thread to alter their opinion of the original post?

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

Your story doesnt stand and could be slander.
I dont know why you are so interested.
You need to keep yourself to yourself and stop listening to what could be false allegations.
You never know whats hanging over your own head....

Instead of spying on your neighbors and doing the government's dirty work why not vent your spleen on the real drain on our nation's resources? For example: the MPs who've been robbing the public coffers for years with impunity and get away with little more than a slap on the wrist or the war mongers who or waste countless millions (not to mention British lives) on pointless foreign wars when they can't even defend our own borders. And what about the bankers who've plunged the world in to recession but who have the gall to demand millions in bonuses whilst the rest of us are expected to tighten our belts, suffer our services been cut or 'streamlined' and face redundancies on a scale not seen since the Thatcher years. Fact: there's more money saved as a result of benefits people are entitled to but don't claim than money lost through fraudulent claims.

Please also bear in mind that just because it looks like someone can afford holidays abroad and a nice car it doesn't mean they can.

More often those things are a result of massive consumer debts, not overpaid benefits.

No harm in reporting it, if you have suspicions then report, no harm will come of it to either party if the suspicions are confirmed to be untrue. People shouldn't be able to do this!

My sister was the victim of a malicious benefit fraud report back in 1984

No harm in reporting it says you, you should try being on the receiving end waiting for the visit to find out what you have supposedly done. The underhanded tactics they use like asking to use the bathroom and then opening the bathroom cabinet to see how many tooth brushes there are and all because the Irish woman across the road didnt like the fact that her deceased husband had been in the Army.

Three times she was reported and three times there was no wrong doing by the end of it she was on valium

Please also bear in mind that just because it looks like someone can afford holidays abroad and a nice car it doesn't mean they can.

More often those things are a result of massive consumer debts, not overpaid benefits.

Or it could be a Charity funded holiday, airmiles off credit card use, won in a competition.
It could have been paid for by another family member, could be last minute bookings at seriously reduced rates.

There are some horrible, spiteful people around. Leave people alone and let them live their lives, the original post smacks of jealousy to me.

Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child
What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents.
Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.

From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever.
Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts?
Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around

Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)

Regards Ste345

It's the right thing to do, but I hope you'd also report someone who has a job on the side who doesn't declare their earnings, or what about the white van man who fixes your roof and asks for cash in hand. They are thieves as well, and cost the country even more than benefit cheats.

another busybody get a life

If you have no actual evidence then I would suggest minding your own business is the best course of action

How would anyone have evidence except those specifically looking into it?

The money is the money of the OP and anyone who pays taxes.

Now while this one sounds like a load of gossip there is nothing wrong with reporting out and out parasites. I once lived above a bloke who was at home most of the time with his wife. The bloke was an arrogant loudmouth always discussing deals on the phone and going in and out briefly at all hours. The smell of dope constantly floated up the stairs. Possible drug dealer? I reported him when I could see him on his bench press lifting weights while complaining to the wife about losing his incapacity benefit. I also heard him ranting to his wife about doing 11 years inside for crimes including GBH.

Was I right to report him or a nosey git?

Are there any rules anywhere on what you should report? If they want reports based on rumours then feel free to report it. If they only wan't reports based on facts then you probably shouldn't bother. Have a look on the relevant website and see what it says.

How would anyone have evidence except those specifically looking into it?

The money is the money of the OP and anyone who pays taxes.

Now while this one sounds like a load of gossip there is nothing wrong with reporting out and out parasites. I once lived above a bloke who was at home most of the time with his wife. The bloke was an arrogant loudmouth always discussing deals on the phone and going in and out briefly at all hours. The smell of dope constantly floated up the stairs. Possible drug dealer? I reported him when I could see him on his bench press lifting weights while complaining to the wife about losing his incapacity benefit. I also heard him ranting to his wife about doing 11 years inside for crimes including GBH.

Was I right to report him or a nosey git?

For all we know you could be both! :D

Ha ha, yes well we are all a bit nosey including me, but Dot Cotton I ain't. He is my only 'victim' because I had it from the horses mouth. In general I agree with the arguments that far less is stolen in benefit fraud than is stolen in tax dodging, offshore accounts, big business fiddling, creative accountancy etc. The working poor getting an extra tenner or fifty here and there is fine by me. Whole families and multiple generations doing sweet FA and sticking their hands out, as well as very fit drug dealers on incapacity is another altogether.

As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it.

Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it?

As mentioned on multiple occasions, the OP has no evidence whatsoever.

Are the 'authorities' capable of operating with a degree of fairness on issues like this, or, do they tend to be inept.

Most who've had experience of the benefits 'authorities' would know that the latter is more likely to be true.

i.e. accusation=stopped benefits, while it's 'investigated'- regardless of whether there's any evidence.

If the investigation reveals the family to be innocent, is there any recompense for suffering caused by having benefits stopped for a period which could total several months- no.

If you were on benefits, would you like it if someone reported you, with no evidence, but just because they're, say, jealous- and, as a result, your benefits are stopped and you perhaps become homeless as the landlord won't accept the absense of rent?

When the investigation shows you to be innocent of fraud, will you be happy that you were, as you put it 'snitched on'- after all, from the position of the 'authorities' you could have been guilty, so, no harm done to report you, just in case.

To be honest, as a 'fellow taxpayer' but, one who has knowledge of what the benefits system is really like (i.e. totally inept & unprofessional), I wouldn't report anyone to them, even if I suspected them of committing fraud.

Why? Because they may be innocent and, until the benefits 'authorites' acheive a degree of competency and a basic respect for the people they deal with, I wouldn't take the chance of putting a potentially innocent family through the misery.

It's the right thing to do, but I hope you'd also report someone who has a job on the side who doesn't declare their earnings, or what about the white van man who fixes your roof and asks for cash in hand. They are thieves as well, and cost the country even more than benefit cheats.

It isn't the right thing to do based on "I think" rather than "I know".

How many of those that "think" rather than "know" think of the opposite consequences if their wrong? my guess none. It breeds a society of insecure, vindictive, spitefulness...the sort that would through envy, run a key up the side of your car because it's a year younger than yours and shortly afterwards smile to your face and tell you how despicable some are.

There is nothing in the OP which suggests the poster has a 1 on 1 connection with the alleged perp...it's all 3rd hand. Seems to be a distinct lack of presence by the op...I have my suspicions, but promise not to report. :hihi:

It isn't the right thing to do based on "I think" rather than "I know".

How many of those that "think" rather than "know" think of the opposite consequences if their wrong? my guess none. It breeds a society of insecure, vindictive, spitefulness...the sort that would through envy, run a key up the side of your car because it's a year younger than yours and shortly afterwards smile to your face and tell you how despicable some are.

There is nothing in the OP which suggests the poster has a 1 on 1 connection with the alleged perp...it's all 3rd hand. Seems to be a distinct lack of presence by the op...I have my suspicions, but promise not to report. :hihi:

You're right about the OP, and I should have read it carefully rather than make assumptions from the title of the post. But I stand by the general point that benefit fraud and tax evasion are both slealing from tax payers and public service users.

(we have our suspicions!). who are we you and the rest of your curtain twitching friends?
nothing but hearsay and conjecture with a dash of jealousy. get a hobby!

You're right about the OP, and I should have read it carefully rather than make assumptions from the title of the post. But I stand by the general point that benefit fraud and tax evasion are both slealing from tax payers and public service users.


Agreed, but I don't think anyone has argued that point.

Ya know ,Someone reported my friend this yr for benefit fraud, purely out of spite and jealousy, She wasnt doing anything wrong but it was a horrid experience for her as they treated her as guilty until she proved otherwise. I agree with what someone else said, Your just jealous that they have been on holiday! I live by the rule if it doesnt hurt me its nothing to do with me, Why go out of your way to try and ruin someone elses life? What ever happened to "live and let live" :S

As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it.

Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it?

In thu case, more like a curtain twitching busy body than a snitch. In order to snitch, the implication is you have some information of a more concrete nature than "my mate says she thinks....".

Oh my god. Why don't you go stand outside the townhall and protest about MP's claiming false expenses for toilet seats in second homes? Seriously, there are far bigger crimes than going on holiday with your family. If you feel so strongly about it get some concrete evidence, Stop being a busy body and sticking your nose in where it's not wanted. I'd rather my taxpayers money go on taking a young child abroad than some fat cat MP having a moat with a bird house on it. The authorities have a job to do and they get paid for it, so let them earn their bloody money. You won't get any thanks for whistle blowing. I'm disgusted that some people feel it necessary to ruin another person's life just out of jealousy. Like someone said earlier, get a life or a hobby.

Report it YES

Yeah, and that's why £1 out of every £3 collected is going on benefits and this country is in the mess its in.

Next on my list would be those who don't work yet have big tellies and Sky subscriptions!

Are you saying that a third of the money collected in tax is spent on benefits? :huh:

at last selphie someone talks sense i fully agree

How would anyone have evidence except those specifically looking into it?

The money is the money of the OP and anyone who pays taxes.

Now while this one sounds like a load of gossip there is nothing wrong with reporting out and out parasites. I once lived above a bloke who was at home most of the time with his wife. The bloke was an arrogant loudmouth always discussing deals on the phone and going in and out briefly at all hours. The smell of dope constantly floated up the stairs. Possible drug dealer? I reported him when I could see him on his bench press lifting weights while complaining to the wife about losing his incapacity benefit. I also heard him ranting to his wife about doing 11 years inside for crimes including GBH.

Was I right to report him or a nosey git?

Looks like a Guy Ritchie script.

No. You should not report it. There is no concrete evidence in your original post.

You need to check yourself into the psychiatric ward and get therapy for your paranoia and anger management issues. You should most certainly get a private detective to hide in the fridge to check that your spouse is not urinating into your Corn Flakes in the morning before he or she lovingly serves them to you.

I wonder how many would think twice before they report if their benefit/wages were stopped as a consequence for getting it wrong.

How would anyone have evidence except those specifically looking into it?




Non of the above makes sense.


To "look into it" and get evidence one would need a VERY good reason. On what grounds would the authorities have reason to look in the first place? Chit chat?
And what would your own motives be based on? chit chat?

Are there any rules anywhere on what you should report? If they want reports based on rumours then feel free to report it. If they only wan't reports based on facts then you probably shouldn't bother. Have a look on the relevant website and see what it says.

No, there are no rules at all. All allegations are assessed by a fraud team, and then if a further investigation is deemed necessary, one will take place.

Non of the above makes sense.


To "look into it" and get evidence one would need a VERY good reason. On what grounds would the authorities have reason to look in the first place? Chit chat?
And what would your own motives be based on? chit chat?

If that 'chit chat' corresponds with other evidence, then it may be the key to unlock a fraud. We all know that the OP is just asking for a reaction, but the answer, as ever, is if the OP feels it should be reported, then do it.

If not, shut up.