Two things that really bother me on the roads are:

1) People driving slow in the fast lane
2) People sitting in traffic at night using the footbrake, dazzling the car behind with their brakelights
(especially on newer cars with bright eye-level brakelights)

Let's not turn this into another bike V car debate or anything though eh?

Sit in the damn middle lane on the motorway when the left one is clear, damn that winds me up something rotten.

Btw, there is no fast lane ;)

You know what I mean...

Haha, yeah it annoys the hell outta me too - caused me to be late home from work many a time :mad:

People using their mobile phones.

Not indicating. (You may know where you are going - how about letting everyone else know?)

Random braking.

Slow driving when it is in appropriate. (Sunday drivers)

Stupidly loud music systems.

Nomme

people with fog lights on when it's not foggy

people not signalling (especially those on motorways who just weave from lane to lane who always pull just in front of you)

people who sit up your back

Drivers who drive with their fog lights on un-necessarily.
Drivers who hog the middle lane.
Drivers who, in slow moving traffic, pull across in front of you and stop thus preventing you from pulling out.
Drivers who, when turning into a side road, beep pedestrians who are crossing.
Drivers who try and drive over Give Way lines when pedestrians are crossing.
Drivers with sound systems worth more than their cars and drive round with their windows open to try and prove it.

People who accelerate past me up to a red light ahead of us and then slam on the brakes. I gently pull up at the side of them seconds later.

People who see the box ontop of a learner car and go faster so they're half an inch behind your vehicle, then expect you to go faster (even when you'd break the speed limit to do so)

They do it on purpose... Inconsiderate little you know whats. :mad:

People that drive through 30mph speed limits at 40mph, then proceed to carry on doing 40mph when the speed limit turns to 60mph (anyone would think that they didn't know the purpose of a brake or accelerator.

Cars that overtake you on blind bends in 30mph zones, then crawl along when it becomes 60mph.

Cars driving with foglights on when it isn't foggy.

People who speed through residential areas (i.e 30mph zones)

Drivers who pull out, then decide to indicate.

People who drive far too close up the back off you.

Random braking for no apparent reason

- People who park in bus lanes (e.g. Eccleshall Road) - what's the point in having bus lanes???

- People who think the rules don't apply to them (e.g. they will park on double yellows 'just for a minute' or turn right at a 'no right turn' etc)

- People who force their way out of junctions by blocking one lane completely, and forcing the other direction to stop to let them out.

- Motorbikes (driving dangerously)

Things that annoy me about road design / layout:

- 'Patronising' traffic lights - ones that aren't needed and just hold you up with no obvious safety benefit

- No clearly marked 'Exit' signs in car parks, leaving you driving blindly looking for the exit, usually around badly designed, narrow one way lanes

- Those bus 'priority' lights which are supposed to stop the main traffic and let buses through first (e.g. Wicker on the way into town). Don't work - they slow the buses down, and slow the cars down.

why do people drive closer to learner drivers - when my mum was learning to drive we had l plates on my dad's car (at that time he'd been driving 25 years) and noticeably people drove closer - you'd think they'd leave more room, as surely learners are less predictable

but then they're prob the same people who sit up your back

forgot those people who drive at 40mph whatever - they're always on the A61 out to the m1

Oh dear, ncrossland may have opened the floodgates there...
cue angry two-wheelers :)

Oh dear, ncrossland may have opened the floodgates there...
cue angry two-wheelers :)

Why'd it do this twice?

Originally posted by jackthedog
Oh dear, ncrossland may have opened the floodgates there...
cue angry two-wheelers :)

Why'd it do this twice?

That's why I put the 'driving dangerously' bit!!!

You know - flying down the motorway at 120mph, overtaking on bends, writing off my car, that kind of thing.

Motorbikes are OK if driven properly, (as are most of the drivers who drive responsibl) but as with most things like this, the minority give the majority a bad name!

You have exactly the same complaint as me Jayne... I learn with a driving instructor (Dual control is much safer to learn in) and even she complains about how close they come behind me.... If I was to see a potential hazard and brake, they wouldn't have a hope in hell of stopping in time. Idiots! :loopy:

Originally posted by ncrossland
-- People who force their way out of junctions by blocking one lane completely, and forcing the other direction to stop to let them out.

Usually you'll find that this happens because no one else will let them out so they force their way out.

yeah, sometimes you gotta force your way out of a side road. You've gotta get out of the junction at some point.

yes, its true, you do sometimes - I do it sometimes - but this thread is about what other motorists do that annoys you - not whether its right or wrong!!

I am sure I annoy other motorists when I do it!!!

Things that drivers do that annoys me...

Be a woman - summarises an otherwise extensive list of annoying habits.

Be an old git - you know, the ones that have to go so slowly because there necks are so stiff they can't look around to see what's coming and have the reaction times of a tortoise that died of alcohol poisoning.

Be a boy racer - driving too fast in heaps of sh*t that they think "handle" well because they've stuck Carlos Fandago wheels and and wheel arches on it.

Park on the wrong side of the road and leaving their headlights on!

I could go on and on but I don't want you to think I'm one of those intolerant drivers!;)

Entering road works on motorway,you see that one lane will be closed.
The people that come screaming down as you wait,and they try to gain every inch of ground before cutting into traffic.

That hacks me right off.

People that dont indicate.

people with £300 cars with £10,000 of stereo and speakers the size of sheffield outside my house late at night.

i dont even Drive a car and all the aboves anoy me

but the things that gets me the most are

no indicating
lorries over taking each other whist going up a hill
middle lane hoggers
slow people
people who park next to you in an empty car park
and sunday drivers alltogether

and just because i will be one i am against the whole
"God not another learner!!! GET A MOVE ON!!!"
thing because all you flat capped old fogies out there you were all one at some point

Originally posted by ncrossland
yes, its true, you do sometimes - I do it sometimes - but this thread is about what other motorists do that annoys you - not whether its right or wrong!!

I am sure I annoy other motorists when I do it!!!

Yeah I'm just pointing out that the opposite is annoying as well - people not letting you out at junctions :)

1) Boy racer chavs who drive up ones arse with fog lights on and sound system blaring out, thinking they're 'good' because they've managed to buy a clapped out Nova and put some neon lights on it..... tasteful!
2) Drivers who don't indicate.
3) Drivers who drive slowly, but then, after overtaking them, can't stand being overtaken so suddenly decide to speed their way back in front.
4) Drivers who beep at any given opportunity, even at people who have made no mistake.
5) Drivers who NEVER let people pull out of side roads.
6) All tailgaters in general, in addition to the boy racer variety.
7) People who think they're so important they have the right to skip past a queue of traffic by (illegally) using the bus lane.
8 ) Drivers who put on fog lights as an alternative form of headlight.
9) Drivers who put on fog lights in addition to headlights when visibility is nowhere near reduced to 100m.
10) Drivers who overtake you, despite the fact that you're travelling at the speed limit...
11) ..... and then sometimes cut in front of you and slow down to below or at the speed limit - pointless.
12) People who drive in the fast lanes permanently on dual carriageways/motorways, below the speed limit.
13) Bus drivers.
14) Taxi drivers.
15) Drivers that don't understand the concept of getting in lane IN ADVANCE of a roundabout - not ON the roundabout where doing so is likely to cause an accident.
16) Drivers who don't understand how to indicate when using a roundabout.

Conclusion - it should be compulsory for every driver to retake the 'theory' test every 5 years, and the actual driving test every 10 years.

Q.What do other motorists do to annoy you?

A. Get in their cars and drive about when I am trying to get somewhere.

A. Intolerant drivers.
B. Stupid drivers.
C. Other drivers.

Originally posted by tango2
The people that come screaming down as you wait,and they try to gain every inch of ground before cutting into traffic.


I assume you mean on m'ways where the traffic is reduced to one or two lanes. My questions are: Why do people get into one lane when there is 800 metres or more of usable lane left? What do they think the road is for if not to drive in? When the less sheep like motorist uses that available road why do the sheep suddenly become agressive and try and stop them legally merging?

Does anyone admit to being one of those morons who stays in the outside lane and slows right down to prevent anyone else driving legally using the available road before merging?

on t020's point

15) Drivers that don't understand the concept of getting in lane IN ADVANCE of a roundabout - not ON the roundabout where doing so is likely to cause an accident.

I would say I don't like roundabouts that don't give you sufficient time to change lane by only having markers on the road - which is useless if it's busy.

It's okay if you know what lane you're meant to be in because you've been there before but if it's a complicated roundabout, i.e. more than 4 exits you could really do with a bit more warning

Originally posted by max
I assume you mean on m'ways where the traffic is reduced to one or two lanes. My questions are: Why do people get into one lane when there is 800 metres or more of usable lane left? What do they think the road is for if not to drive in? When the less sheep like motorist uses that available road why do the sheep suddenly become agressive and try and stop them legally merging?

Does anyone admit to being one of those morons who stays in the outside lane and slows right down to prevent anyone else driving legally using the available road before merging?

Yes there might be 800 metere of road left,I mean the people that wait until there is about 10ft left then decide to merge into the traffic.
Theses people cant understand why they have to reduce their speed from a rapid 80 to 50 in about a second.
The idea of the warnings,is to enable smooth traffic flow into the roadworks.

I...hate...drivers...who...pull...out...slowly...f rom...a...side...road...
whenyouarehurtlingtowardsthemat30mph

I...also...hate...drivers...who...chug...along...a ...main...road...at
...20...mph...thenspeedupasthelightsbegintochange. ..leaving
...you...stranded...while...you..wait...for...the. ..lights...to
...go...green

I..also...hate...drivers...who...dawdle...when..ch anging...lanes
...for...instance...when...a...two...lane...road.. .splits...into...
three...lanes...becauseIwanttodrivepasttheminmylan ewhichisclear
...only...for...the...lights...to...change...so... I...have...to
...wait...again


Ten points to everyone who got that!

Originally posted by max
I assume you mean on m'ways where the traffic is reduced to one or two lanes. My questions are: Why do people get into one lane when there is 800 metres or more of usable lane left?


I would think it's because at 60mph that only gives them about 30 sec to safely make the manoeuvre. On a motorway people generally travel faster than that so that time is significantly reduced. Pulling in front of someone causing them to brake (otherwise known as cutting someone up) generally upsets people - even causing road rage. You had plenty of notice and time that your lane was blocked and you need to manoeuvre- why leave it to the last minute?

Originally posted by max

What do they think the road is for if not to drive in?

Of course it is but why leave it till the last minute? You have to pull in. It's your responsibility to find the gap - not cause someone else to brake/slow down to let you in. The road is there to give you time to safely do this.

Originally posted by max

When the less sheep like motorist uses that available road why do the sheep suddenly become aggressive and try and stop them legally merging?

This in my opinion only happens when the traffic has come to a standstill at a point where 2 lanes merge into one (otherwise known as a bottleneck). If people merged earlier, the traffic would be free flowing. However, if your uber driver leaves it to the last minute, cuts someone up, that person brakes (and we all know what happens on a motorway when someone brakes suddenly) and the traffic backs up and stops. Oh goody. A traffic jam. What's the cause? Most likely it is due driving too fast and failing to read the road.

Originally posted by max

Does anyone admit to being one of those morons who stays in the outside lane and slows right down to prevent anyone else driving legally using the available road before merging?

No. However, the British people are renowned for their calm quiet queuing behaviour ('sheepish' you might say). You've seen the signs. You've seen the queue - I guess they are objecting to you 'pushing in' .


Nomme

Well done Nomme... excellent explanaition there dude!:thumbsup:

Sunday Drivers

Drivers who hog the middle of the road when turning right instread of been upt to the line thus not allowing cars to pass on the left

Drivers who pull up at lights and appear to be going straight on and then as soon as lights change put the indicator on.

Drivers who switch lanes without realising and almost cause a crash and then have the cheek to blame the other driver.

Drivers who double park.

Quite frankly other motorists being on the road annoys me. I like a nice clear almost-empty road to drive on and often get up at 3.00am so I can share in this unique pleasure with myself.

Anyone do the same?

Drivers who have no consideration of the weather and the effect it will have on their car gripping the road.

Countless number of people who were driving too fast on the snow/ice this afternoon to reasonably correct a slide or stop in time.

Originally posted by Jayne
on t020's point

15) Drivers that don't understand the concept of getting in lane IN ADVANCE of a roundabout - not ON the roundabout where doing so is likely to cause an accident.

I would say I don't like roundabouts that don't give you sufficient time to change lane by only having markers on the road - which is useless if it's busy.

It's okay if you know what lane you're meant to be in because you've been there before but if it's a complicated roundabout, i.e. more than 4 exits you could really do with a bit more warning


Agreed. All roundabouts should have clear signs well in advance and again nearer to the roundabout. A lot of people I've met who aren't from Sheffield often complain about not being able to get in the right lane on one of Sheffields many roundabouts due to poor signposting and last minute painted arrows (that vary from roundabout to roundabout) by which time its too late to change lane anyway. Also, they are often befuddled with the colour coded shapes used near Park Square roundabout! Can't blame them either, because I haven't a clue what the point of those are!! I'd rather it said "Ponds Forge" rather than showing a red circle, or some other ridiculous colour-shape combo.

Why dont people indicate anymore? esp. on roundabouts!

Also, why do people overtake and cut me up on Bochum Parkway, despite me going exactly 40mph!

This is a big topic for me.. suffering from severe road rage and all.

Things that do my nut in when on the road are:

-Drivers who are not courteous in bad traffic..
-Buses that block off roundabouts and junctions in busy traffic..
-People that block off junctions to stop you from getting out, even when not going in the same direction as them
-People that get up your arse
-People that drive 15mph coz there is a bit of snow on the sidewalks but NONE on the road
-People that have no idea about lane discipline
-People using the right lane of the motorway as a normal lane, and driving slow..
-People on phones/doing "make-up" in the mirror and paying no attention to the road
-Women (sorry, but I'm being in honest)
-The elderly, sounds quite bad but shouldn't we make anyone over 65 take another test every 10 years or so? I had a women (looked over 80) driving at 10mph on dead roads and couldn't overtake because I was scared she would panic!

I have an adventure every morning getting to work.. There're so many shocking drivers it's unbelievable.

Rant over.

People who overtake you when you have pulled over slightly and stopped to give way to an oncoming bus struggling to get up a slippery and narrow hill. Ok, they may think you have just stopped but can't they look a little further than the front of their own car to see a f**king great bus coming towards them!?

Only mention it because 2 tw*ts did it to me this morning.

Originally posted by GazB
This is a big topic for me.. suffering from severe road rage and all.



<snip>


I have an adventure every morning getting to work.. There're so many shocking drivers it's unbelievable.

Rant over.

I take it you commute via Barnsley Road too ;)

Not anymore, I go over Shirecliffe and then a few back roads bringing me to West Street and then round onto the big roundabout at the end of Ecclesall road, but I can't get to work without losing my temper at someone.. It's impossible!

Stress is not good either, I'm trying to build up at the gym and stress is negative! The simpleton terms for what is does is uses the hormones that build and recover your muscles and puts them into causing and eventually dealing with stress!

I try to take deep breaths and count backwards from 10.

Seriously, is there any kind of course/group that I can attend to deal with road rage/anger in general?

When I am waiting at a roundabout to join and some idiot driver signals too early and I think they are turning off before they get to me. ( numsculls )

people who use the horn too much for little mistakes like it will do any good. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone has accidentally got in the wrong lane from time to time theres no use sounding your hirn it only makes people more nervous and more likely to slip up. A bit more patience is needed.

Drivers who brake to let every sodding car out of sidelanes.

Its polite to let people out of sidelanes when it safe to do so and doesn't disrupt other people. But when you are braking every other minute along a 10 mile stretch of road because of the car infront of you keeps braking it becomes infuriating :mad:

You can tell what the driver in front of me was doing today :(

Originally posted by GazB
This is a big topic for me.. suffering from severe road rage and all.

Things that do my nut in when on the road are:

-Drivers who are not courteous in bad traffic..
-Buses that block off roundabouts and junctions in busy traffic..
-People that block off junctions to stop you from getting out, even when not going in the same direction as them
-People that get up your arse
-People that drive 15mph coz there is a bit of snow on the sidewalks but NONE on the road
-People that have no idea about lane discipline
-People using the right lane of the motorway as a normal lane, and driving slow..
-People on phones/doing "make-up" in the mirror and paying no attention to the road
-Women (sorry, but I'm being in honest)
-The elderly, sounds quite bad but shouldn't we make anyone over 65 take another test every 10 years or so? I had a women (looked over 80) driving at 10mph on dead roads and couldn't overtake because I was scared she would panic!

I have an adventure every morning getting to work.. There're so many shocking drivers it's unbelievable.

Rant over.

PAVEMENTS my friend PAVEMENTS!!!!! not sidewalks

Listen to some of you...fair enough that you should get wound up if another driver endangers your life..but just because people have a different driving style that doesn't suit your way of thinking. what exactly do you lose if someone in front of you keeps leting people in or if someone overtakes you even if you're keeping to the speed limit..Its up to them. If everybody just chilled out a bit more then there would be less idiots like you lot pulling our hair out everytime another driver dares take up your valubale road space. Its a sad state of affairs when you have to consider anger management as a result of driving. Its a car..on a road..getting to a place...END OF..its not a personal conspiracy against you..of course you're all perfect drivers who observe the highway code religiously!!!

On a busy motorway, even the "fast" lane is full but everyone happy tootling along at, let's say 70 (I've got a long memory, yes there once was a time when one could achieve 70 on our motorways!). Some prat decides to drive 3 inches from my bumper, flashing his headlights to get past. It's busy, not easy to get into the middle lane but not wanting to get rear-ended I let him past then follow him for the next 20 miles immediately in front of me. But due to my thoughtfulness he reaches his destination 10 seconds earlier than otherwise.

Drivers under 25 - until I discover their insurance premiums are 5 times what I pay - justice!

People that park on double yellow lines/disabled spaces. Bring on the traffic warden with the hefty fine.

People that expect to push in at road works cos they kept goin down the empty lane, AND the people that let them in. :nono:

People that expect me to break the speed limit cos the are up my arse. Sorry but i won't. Bring on the speed camera.

People still using mobile phones - did a new law not come in in DEC 2003 to stop this. Where are the police enforcing it?

I have to say i agree with T020 on this one and we should all be made to retake our tests on a regular basis. I am not allowed to drive at the minute and i can see how difficult it must be for people that aren't but being a danger to yourself and others is not right.

There's a classic 'cocked up' roundabout marking system near meadowhall.

Its as you leave the Sainsbury's filling station (NOT the one by the bus station) and drive towards Tinsley. Two lanes show a right turn. The exit from the roundabout towards Sheffield (Attercliffe) is two lanes. WITH ME SO FAR? If you take the right hand of these two lanes you'd expect to find yourself in the right hand land on the exit. OK SO FAR?

Noooooo! If you take THIS lane you have to go ROUND the roundabout and back towards Meadowhall, and the bloke in the left hand lane finds himself in the right hand lane on leaving the roundabout.

So some prat has been paid good money to design the sign and he can't be bothered to show clearly that the right lane is a 'U' turn, NOT a right turn as shown!!!!!! And some BIGGER prat has allowed the sign to be put up. He probably gets paid even more!!!

In this case, normally careful drivers are drawn into a dangerous situation through no fault of their own.

I've been there and had to avoid some poor sod who didn't WANT to go back to Meadowhall.

Rant over.

By the way, its the roundabout next to the M1 distribution Centre.:loopy:

1..Idiots who sit in the right lane at traffic lights, then indicate right when the lights turn green. (leaving a dozen people behind them wanting to go straight on)

2..Prats who pull out of a side road (in the country) to turn left but only look right before doing so. (never considering that someone may be overtaking from the other direction)

3..Ignorant sods who can't park their cars in the middle of the parking bay.

4..Deadheads who refuse to pull over to the right when turning right (when if they did so traffic behind would be able to pass them on the left)

5..Clowns who put a 2 ton spoiler on their cars, then can't see out the back.

6..Fools who drive their cars nose first onto driveways, then spend most of the next day trying to reverse out into heavy traffic.

7..Bus drivers who pull out when I'm alongside them.

8..Private hire drivers who think they are TAXIS.

9..Those other ignorant sods who park their car in the centre of a layby, when there should be room for two cars.

10..Lamebrains who don't use indicators on roundabouts.

And shouldn't changing a wheel be part of the driving test so that cars with punctures can be shifted as soon as possible.:mad:

Motorists who *censored* demolish your parked car then drive off . Why don't the *censored* own up, they wouldn't like it done to them.


At the beginning of the week my car got reversed into and its fog lights demolished and smashed back into the grille at MEADOWHALL.

Now I have just got home tonight and some *censored* *censored* has driven into the rear passenger door of my other car as there is now a huge dent in it. I dread to think how much it is going to cost to fix, not to mention the cost of getting the door resprayed to match the colour of the car.

Why can't people learn to *censored* park!:(

Thats because its pretty much a careless society, people dont care a damn about other peoples property....

My biggest hate is when parking at such places like Meaowhall, why do people open their doors and Slam it right into your car, causing dents. I know some parking spaces are tight, but a little care and attention is all thats needed.... why if you've got a big van or 4X4 try and cram it into such a tight space, that your obviously going to have trouble opening the doors.

What about selfish people who can't be arsed to straighten up in parking bays in carparks and so are at an angle, making the adjacent places unnecessarily tight. Sometimes, really selfish people don't even bother parking in 1 bay and instead sprawl across 2 bays. This is very annoying and selfish.

Originally posted by t020
What about selfish people who can't be arsed to straighten up in parking bays in carparks and so are at an angle, making the adjacent places unnecessarily tight. Sometimes, really selfish people don't even bother parking in 1 bay and instead sprawl across 2 bays. This is very annoying and selfish.

Yes that is true and reason why you get your car bashed, usually if I come across a car parked in such away I wont park next to it. I know someone that does indeed sprawl across 2 bays, their reason being that it leaves greater space at either side of their car so they wont get bashed by doors being opened.

Originally posted by t020
What about selfish people who can't be arsed to straighten up in parking bays in carparks and so are at an angle, making the adjacent places unnecessarily tight. Sometimes, really selfish people don't even bother parking in 1 bay and instead sprawl across 2 bays. This is very annoying and selfish.

That will be me then. :blush:

In mitigation m'Lud...I often park, ahem, accidentally badly, because I have a 2 door car and if I don't I cant open the wide doors to get out... and It's even worse when someone parks a little too close. Hence I park at the rump end of the car park, usually in 2 bays.

The other plea in my defence is as stated by mega_monty above.

Case in point...I had to go from Eckington to Gleadless the day before yesterday,and on the road that goes past the Blackamoor pub then Wards nursery and into Coal Aston,this bloke in a big blue Saab,took it upon himself to overtake all the cars in our line that were all proceeding at quite a rapid rate on all the blind bends and hills,the kind of overtaking where you draw air through your teeth and cover the brake pedal,then when he had overtook everyone and we where entering the 40 zone into Coal Aston he slowed to 20mph all the way through into the 30 zone still doing 20 till he got to the roundabout near the Chequers when he turned down Dyche lane doing about 70..... Madness.

Trouble is Part of me wants to see them come off a cropper...

Originally posted by jackthedog
Two things that really bother me on the roads are:

1) People driving slow in the fast lane
2) People sitting in traffic at night using the footbrake, dazzling the car behind with their brakelights
(especially on newer cars with bright eye-level brakelights)

Let's not turn this into another bike V car debate or anything though eh?


Motorists (usually at the front of the queue) who "PARK" at Traffic Lights, give way lines, stop signs, road junctions and sit talking to their passengers holding everone else up, instead of using observation and moving forward as soon as it is clear.

Hang there arm out on the side of the door or on the roof.
you can always tell a passenger, his left arm is always sunburnt.

I suppose the best answer to this question, from everyones point of view, is simple:

What do other motorists do to annoy you? - drive.

It annoys me when they stop to use a cash machine, causing a traffic jam. An example of that is Crystal Peaks, outside Sainsburys.

It also annoys me when idiots drive as close as they can to the shop's front door to drop off or pick up their passangers. What's wrong with parking the car, in the car park, then walking?? Oh no, sorry, I forgot, they might get wet in the rain, or the wind might blow their hair :rolleyes:

Originally posted by mikosavi
Hang there arm out on the side of the door or on the roof.
you can always tell a passenger, his left arm is always sunburnt.
Wow, if that is all that you find annoying you must be one chilled person! I salute you!:thumbsup:

Originally posted by t020
I suppose the best answer to this question, from everyones point of view, is simple:

What do other motorists do to annoy you? - drive.

May I direct the right honourable gentleman to a comment I made earlier in the thread?

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=65066#post65066

:)

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
May I direct the right honourable gentleman to a comment I made earlier in the thread?

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=65066#post65066

:)


I see :D

T'is true though.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
May I direct the right honourable gentleman to a comment I made earlier in the thread?

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=65066#post65066

:)

The fact that you're addressing t020 as 'The Right Honourable Gentleman' implies that you believe him to be a member of the Privy Council, an appointment and title retained for life.

If, however, you'd addressed him as, simply, 'The Honourable Gentleman' that would make him only one of the following:

Executive Councillors (on appointment Ministers and Assistant Ministers become Executive Councillors; title retained for life)
President of the Senate
Speaker of the House of Representatives
Ministers of State Governments
Presidents and Members of the Legislative Councils
Speakers of Legislative Assemblies

I think we should be told :)

Originally posted by mojoworking
The fact that you're addressing t020 as 'The Right Honourable Gentleman' implies that you believe him to be a member of the Privy Council, an appointment and title retained for life.

If, however, you'd addressed him as, simply, 'The Honourable Gentleman' that would make him only one of the following:

Executive Councillors (on appointment Ministers and Assistant Ministers become Executive Councillors; title retained for life)
President of the Senate
Speaker of the House of Representatives
Ministers of State Governments
Presidents and Members of the Legislative Councils
Speakers of Legislative Assemblies

I think we should be told :)

*cough*

Since when's t020 "honourable"?! He lives in Eccleshall for a start! :lol:

Sorry (not really).... couldn't resist! :lol:

1) people who think they can park any where on a Sunday in city centre e.g. across top of Fargate blocking emergency access, on double yellow lines ( they "operate" 24/7), on paved areas on Surrey St., in Tudor Square-read the notices on the lighting posts and on the wall.
2) Park in a stupid place--throw a blue badge on the dashboard( issued to disabled drivers or disabled passengers)--and then get out of the car and run to the shop/pub/post office.
3) Drive a First bus-- most of them are ignorant of the highway code and are visualy challenged.

Originally posted by waddy13
1) people who think they can park any where on a Sunday in city centre e.g. across top of Fargate blocking emergency access, on double yellow lines ( they "operate" 24/7), on paved areas on Surrey St., in Tudor Square-read the notices on the lighting posts and on the wall.
2) Park in a stupid place--throw a blue badge on the dashboard( issued to disabled drivers or disabled passengers)--and then get out of the car and run to the shop/pub/post office.
3) Drive a First bus-- most of them are ignorant of the highway code and are visualy challenged.

4) Drive a taxi - most of them haven't heard of speed limits or leaving a safe gap between themselves and the car infront. They are also prone to pulling off random U turns.

On the subject of what to do when there's roadworks closing one lane of a dual carraigeway

A) Continue using both lanes then merge at end
B) All queue up in one lane leaving the other empty.

Yeah queueing.. very British thing. And it's annoying when you've been waiting a while and someone bombs past and "pushes in". But if both lanes are in use then the queue is going to take up half the distance of road.

I saw a nice solution to this on the North Wales dual carriageway - there were big signs just before the cones that said "Merge in turn", with a picture of cars merging in turn.