View Full Version : Fireworks - do we need them?


Foxprom
10-10-2005, 19:40
Following the decision to impose a curfew in parts of the city that are being affected by the Fireworks and other issues, and the national decisions to upgrade all powers for the police to act on people discaharging fireworks at inapropriate times, (though how that would be policed or proven, " BANG!! not me officer I aint got no fireworks here" not now anyway) I am not sure, My initial thoughts and I am curious to find other peoles reactions towards them, are do we really need the firework Bonfire night thing.

I am horrified as I am sure many others are every year by the number of people (many of them children) who are injured, blinded and even killed by these items at what is supposed to be a celebration festival.

People of any age (restrictions are applied) can purchase these explosive substances and with the application of a match, no training required, create an explosion, which is capeable of demolishing telephone boxes, bus shelters and of course wheeley bins.

Sales restrictions, age limits, limited dates dont work, lets get rid of this futile waste of money and life.

Sorry I sound so biggeted about it, I have been fortunate over the years to have earned money from this event, but would give up every penny i could earn from it happily if the whole thing was dispanded.

Rich
10-10-2005, 19:50
IMO they should ban the sale of fireworks to the general public, cos it's blatantly obvious Joe Public doesn't know what he's doing with them.. Allow strictly monitored, organised firework do's though, there's nothing wrong with those, the keyword there though is organised, with proper safety initiatives in place etc.

That's my 2 penneth anyway.

saxon51
10-10-2005, 19:53
Originally posted by Rich
IMO they should ban the sale of fireworks to the general public, cos it's blatantly obvious Joe Public doesn't know what he's doing with them.. Allow strictly monitored, organised firework do's though, there's nothing wrong with those, the keyword there though is organised, with proper safety initiatives in place etc.

That's my 2 penneth anyway.

I'm with Rich on this.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Until this happens.....ban the bloody things.:mad:

muddycoffee
10-10-2005, 20:29
My uncle lives in nether edge and there are loads of Asian families living on the road, who often let loads of fireworks off in the middle of the street, and the police who often drive past in their cars don't stop them or appear to want to stop them.

Uncle says he has asked them to stop letting fireworks off like that all day long, because it's antisocial and frightening.

But they just say, " well it's a wedding" and ignore him.

There are many places near there where I work who sell fireworks and occasionally one goes of in the middle of the day which is so loud it sounds like a huge bomb going off, I am not exagerating this is not something from your traditional standard fireworks family back garden pack, but a display firework probably on sale for tens of pounds.
I noticed last year that this didn't happen any longer as the goverment started to crack down a little.

On the whole it is a little childish, the thrill of setting off fireworks and I wouldn't miss it one bit. Especially if you have seen a toddler in the family frightened out of her wits, or pets in a terrified state deficating all over the house. why in these times of terrorist threats and bombings do we allow the sale of small gunpowder bombs to the general public? In my view it's just stupid. Just ask someone who works in the fire service or A & E. I know 2 lads from my youth who got injured because of fooling about with fireworks, and one lad lost an eye, he was about 14 or 15.

roughy101
10-10-2005, 21:16
when i was a kid we had a box of fireworks,catherine wheels, roman candles, little rockets,roast chestnuts roast potatoes and a guy fawkes,all the kids used to go out and collect firewood and pinch firewood,it was one night a year and kids and adults had a bloody good time,now its all about who can buy the biggest loudest bang,we cant go out anymore on bonfire night because we have to stay in with the dogs who are totaly freaked out as are young children,for the last few yrs living at wadsley and wisewood its feels as though we are in a worn torn country.:help:

Zenmaster
10-10-2005, 21:27
Fireworks night is a wonderful and fun tradition...

However, fireworks season is incredibly annoying

Bourne
10-10-2005, 21:28
I thought it was a lot better last year since the new laws came in, was it just my imagination?

If you act within the law and with an ounce of common sense Fireworks are no problem at all.

Always the same, idiots spoiling it for everyone else.

B

taxman
10-10-2005, 21:41
Definately a lot better last year. I live in the tower blocks at Netherthorpe and have mixed views on the fireworks. Firstly its my birthday on Nov 5th so I love the idea that everyone is celebrating with me and I get brilliant views from where I am. On the other hand I want them kept to one day only, my parents have dogs that hate the noise and I see no point in those that just emit an estate deafening bang, usually in the middle of the night and usually after one of the local scrotes has blown up a telephone box.

Phanerothyme
10-10-2005, 21:45
Originally posted by muddycoffee
My uncle lives in nether edge and there are loads of Asian families living on the road, who often let loads of fireworks off in the middle of the street, and the police who often drive past in their cars don't stop them or appear to want to stop them.


The Pakistani wedding on our road was proceeded by polite 'warnings' and apologies in advance through our letterbox. The police were informed and the whole thing lasted about a fortnight. We even had a Scots Piper in the full regalia, and a band of Pakistani Musicians from Bradford come down with drums and the whole shooting match. I even joined in with my djembe. Was a good craic.

spooks
10-10-2005, 22:22
Fireworks should not be sold to the public.. they should be kept to organised displays - lets face apart from the fact they're virtually a mini bomb in your hand they're way expensive and usually pretty crap anyway!

:rolleyes:

medusa
10-10-2005, 22:35
Although it galls me to say it, the American law on this fits the purpose far better than ours. Outside of the 4th July holiday (where there are still strict rules on where fireworks can be used) it is illegal to import fireworks into the US, possess them or sell them to anybody other than a licensed display company. The law sounds a bit daft when they sell guns to everybody but don't let them have fireworks, but that's another thread....

Basically it means that if you want to see fireworks you go to a display instead of buying your own. Much more sensible, and would allow pet owners to not panic over the safety and sanity of animals who are scared witless by the bangs, flashes and funny smells.

nick2
10-10-2005, 23:00
I love fireworks.

(sorry)

BoroughGal
10-10-2005, 23:59
Originally posted by nick2
I love fireworks.

(sorry)

Me too. Bonfire night is my favourite night of the year.

owlsman
11-10-2005, 06:59
Im with Rich and saxon51, Ban fireworks and go to organised displays. :thumbsup:

My dog turns in to a nervous wreck and is poorly as soon as she hears a bang :(

LellyBee
11-10-2005, 07:04
Originally posted by owlsman
Im with Rich and saxon51, Ban fireworks and go to organised displays. :thumbsup:

My dog turns in to a nervous wreck and is poorly as soon as she hears a bang :(

I hate them, I'm petrified every time I hear one and I'm human :thumbsup:

muddycoffee
11-10-2005, 07:05
Why has the poll changed to get rid of firework night?

I'm sure it said should we ban fireworks. Which is a different thing altogether. As a child a safe and sensible bonfire and fireworks display was a highlight of the year, and I don't see why modern children shouldn't have the same fun.

What I want to ban is all year round fireworks and loud ones.

nick2
11-10-2005, 07:25
Having a bonfire on your back garden, with a few fireworks and sparklers, baked potatoes, toffee apples, meat and potato pie and a few beers is much more fun than driving or walking to the nearest park, being herded about, eating crap takeway food, not getting a drink and paying for it.

Bonfire nights on the back garden were great when I was a kid, going to a "firework show" is just not the same, for a start you don't get the added drama of the hedge catching fire or a rocket flying into the house.

I realise it's ok these days to call for banning anything you don't personally like, or that upsets your dog, but you can't take bonfirenight away from kids just because you don't like fireworks.

It's cruel.

dawny1
11-10-2005, 07:56
Problem nowadays with cosy bonfires on your back garden is there is usually a house practically in you back garden.

Last year a firework hit my toddlers bedroom window whilst he was in bed fortunately the double glazing was strong enough to stop it setting our house on fire!

It's not Fireworks I have a problem with - it's the irresponsible idiots, children and adults alike, who do not think when they are setting them off!

Our garden is littered with fireworks from surrounding houses every year.

I think fireworks should only be allowed at organised events.

I also hate the fact that they are already blasting away at night now.


I personally would not miss fireworks!

sccsux
11-10-2005, 08:16
Originally posted by nick2
I love fireworks.

(sorry)

As do I.


I remember (when I was a kid) collecting fire wood for weeks before Nov 5 for the large communal bonfire on some "spare" land at the top of our road (often with a telegraph pole for the centre support).


As an adult with kids, I'd much rather have a small fire, a few friends, loads of fireworks, home cooked food than an "organised" display....


Nothing like being chased round the garden by an errant Catherine Wheel;).

nick2
11-10-2005, 08:22
Do they even do organised bonfires in the parks any more, I thought the council stopped doing them years ago ?

I remember the one in High Hazels park being realy good, when the wind changed and everyone ran of screaming as the embers rained down on us.

Great fun :)

muddycoffee
11-10-2005, 09:43
Originally posted by dawny1
Problem nowadays with cosy bonfires on your back garden is there is usually a house practically in you back garden.

Last year a firework hit my toddlers bedroom window whilst he was in bed fortunately the double glazing was strong enough to stop it setting our house on fire!

It's not Fireworks I have a problem with - it's the irresponsible idiots, children and adults alike, who do not think when they are setting them off!

Our garden is littered with fireworks from surrounding houses every year.



Dawny,
nothing new there then, 30 years ago we used to have a fireworks on bombfire night, and some of the nighbours came around and we used to find loads of empty shells in the garden and often a firework would hit a house or even our house, but they don't cause any damage.

There is a risk that if you left your upstairs windows wide open and were unlucky enough to get a direct hit from a rocket you might have a fire, but leaving your windows open is pretty stupid and someone firing a rocket through your window would be particularly nasty, malicious and criminal act.

Although when they are on the way back down they are spent and just a bit of burned paper. with a plastic tip. Unlikely to do more than cause a bruise if it was to hit you directly on the head. If they had enough mass to cause a dent in a car they would have been banned years ago.

valentine
11-10-2005, 10:15
I live in one of the areas that supposedly has a curfew to stop the misuse of fireworks, but from when I get home at about 4.30pm until mid evening there are fireworks going off.

And as one of the main attractions of fireworks are the colours and patterns there seems little point letting them off in daylight when you can't see them, so I presume it is mindless idiots letting them off.

I would like to see fireworks banned from sale, but if you did this what is to stop people buying them of the net and selling them in Pubs/Clubs/Carboots etc, running the risk of buying foreign fireworks that aren't up to safety standards.

neeeeeeeeeek
11-10-2005, 10:18
The only problem I have with fireworks that are available to the general public is that they are not big enough and are too expensive. You can't beat a dirty big rocket, or one of those massive tube fireworks that launch loads of whizzy things up into the air in different directions..
A few cans of cider, stumbling towards a huge firework with one of those crappy lighting sticks, arm stretched out, prodding the blue touch paper for what seems like an inordinate length of time, then retreating to a semi safe distance!! great fun!!
We should be able to get Indian fireworks over here, every one you light is done with a heightened sense of fear, will it just explode, will it sit on the floor growling then just go Pfffut, will it launch high into the air and produce a dazzling display of colours. Oooo, the tension..

Classic Rock
11-10-2005, 10:19
Fireworks are great but only at an appropriate time. There are woods at the back of my house and idiots have been letting them off for the last two weeks at random times of the day and night. My poor dog is a trembling and shaking wreck. He shakes for up to an hour after hearing one go off. He was used to live and loud rock bands playing in the pub each night, but this really disturbs him.

I'd prefer fireworks to be contained to bonfire night (although how that would be marshalled, I've no idea) simply for some peace and quiet and so the dog can stop shaking. Of course people like to have parties with fireworks either a few days before or after bonfire night - I wouldn't want to ruin the fun or the magic, but if fireworks could just be sold to responsible adults that would save injury and annoyance, but again how to marshall that one would be hard too.

superted666
11-10-2005, 10:25
Fireworks night is not just about fire its a day to remember storys etc.

Sick of the nanny state next halloween will not be needed as it scares pensioners or something.

lol

Live a little

floyd77
11-10-2005, 10:36
Originally posted by Foxprom
which is capeable of demolishing telephone boxes, bus shelters and of course wheeley bins.

You must get some ace fireworks, can destroy phone boxes and bus shelters!

Where can I buy those bad boys!

Jess22
11-10-2005, 11:00
I love watching fireworks, but dread the time around bonfire night because my horse, like most horses gets terrified. Last year I spent most of the evening in the stable with her trying to calm her down and distract her. I think its a lot better now there is a curfew as I know she won't spend the night scared s***less

nick2
11-10-2005, 11:01
Originally posted by floyd77
You must get some ace fireworks, can destroy phone boxes and bus shelters!

Where can I buy those bad boys!

That shop at the bottom of London Road, we got an air bomb last year the size of a beer barrel, the explosions nearly took the windows out on our street, I bet people were prizing cats of the ceiling for weeks :)