View Full Version : Parson Cross Curfew - do we need it?


starstruck
10-10-2005, 14:57
I am all for this curfew, but do you think we really need it from 9pm to 6am??

I know its the firework season but doesnt it seem a bit extreme??

D2J
10-10-2005, 15:06
I lived on Parson Cross for 14 years, and yes, I think it is needed.. Lock the little muppets up :D

A.B.Yaffle
10-10-2005, 15:07
I don't think its extreme at all. The police have said they are not going to be rounding up children who are on their way to or from somewhere, but they have brought in the curfew for the children who are hanging around on the streets at night. In my view parents shouldn't be allowing their children to play out that late anyway, so they should be taken home. I wish they would bring a similar curfew in for Netherthorpe!

lint
10-10-2005, 15:07
there should be a curfew everywhere ,let the parents put up with there own little offspring for a change,im all for it

Pseudonym
10-10-2005, 15:17
I agree Lint... Not just the 'Cross, it should be nationwide... And all year round!

Too many parents seem not to care what their kids get up to, just as long as they aren't under their feet...

dibsy
10-10-2005, 15:21
The curfew is definately needed and welcomed. The other week around 9.30am there were hoards of kids hanging around the shops at Southey Green. I was only driving past and there was a lot of police about, I certainly wouldn't have liked to have been walking there.

RazorSHarp
10-10-2005, 15:25
Only problem with bringing in a local or nationwide curfew is the costs of policing it, we have too few police on the streets as it is without tying up valuable resources on spoilt little bratts. THe best option is to lock them up with a spot fine payable by the parents each time they come to collect them.

Hit the parents inthe pocket that will soon enough cause enough problems for them to sort their precious little darlings out !!

rmay
10-10-2005, 15:28
no i dont think its needed

Fingers
10-10-2005, 15:33
Originally posted by lint
there should be a curfew everywhere ,let the parents put up with there own little offspring for a change,im all for it

But what about parents who aren't common? We need curfews to deal with the children of common people but why should decent people have to cancel their dinner party because they don't want little Tarquin and Jocasta around whilst they are enjoying the odd spliff or line?

:rolleyes:

diamond 5
10-10-2005, 15:35
yes i think its needed parson cross was a nice place years ago most of my family live on there but look at it now it looks like bay route so yes i think its needed and yes not just that area all areas

Kthebean
10-10-2005, 15:37
Beirut - looks lovely to me! (http://www.greatestcities.com/0273pic/519/CP3519.jpg/beirut-1.jpg)

diamond 5
10-10-2005, 16:49
i wish it did look like that id be livin there now lol
keep dreaming or are they planning to make it look like that
lol dont think so

Pseudonym
10-10-2005, 16:53
Originally posted by Fingers
But what about parents who aren't common? We need curfews to deal with the children of common people but why should decent people have to cancel their dinner party because they don't want little Tarquin and Jocasta around whilst they are enjoying the odd spliff or line?

:rolleyes:
Have no fear, Fingers... I'm sure that the nanny could keep little Tarquin & Jocasta occupied elsewhere... in the playroom perhaps... Whilst their decent parents and their equally decent friends indulge their weakness for class A drugs... In a purely non-common recreational fashion, of course! ;)

Owls
10-10-2005, 17:07
I live on parson cross and have got to say I think its ok, I live in a culdi-sac away from any main road so its fairly quiet and you dont get kids going past your house(only ones that live in the culdi-sac). As far as the curfew is concerned I do agree with it but its only 9pm onwards. Its mainly the shops where the kids hang around not outside the houses. I know alot of people who are afraid to go to their local shop at night because of the kids outside. They need to bann kids from hanging outside shops.

diamond 5
10-10-2005, 17:11
the curfew should be about 4.30 not 9 lol

andywatton
10-10-2005, 17:13
In a word - yes.

Rich
10-10-2005, 17:17
If the kids had something to do at night, I don't know something like a Youth club for example, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to terrorise people by hanging round shops etc.

But no, the Council won't do anything like that cos it costs them money :loopy: in their eyes the answer is to slap a curfew on them which would be virtually impossible to enforce, and it's not like people would stick to it anyway...

Babooshka
10-10-2005, 17:39
My cousin is actually policing Parsons Cross tonight, and for the nights leading up to Nov 5th. Apparently, the number of fireworks thrown through letter boxes last year in the build-up to Bonfire Night was staggering.

Fingers
10-10-2005, 18:12
Originally posted by Rich
If the kids had something to do at night, I don't know something like a Youth club for example, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to terrorise people by hanging round shops etc.

But if you're the sort of person who takes pleasure from terrorising people or smoking, drinking and taking drugs then going a youth club isn't as going to appeal to you as much as hanging around shops etc.

Babooshka
10-10-2005, 18:16
Homework? Cooking? Talking? Being part of a family environment?

Rich
10-10-2005, 18:30
Originally posted by Fingers
But if you're the sort of person who takes pleasure from terrorising people or smoking, drinking and taking drugs then going a youth club isn't as going to appeal to you as much as hanging around shops etc.

True, no point in it really when you think about it, cos all the kids'd do is wreck the place probably :loopy:

After all, all it takes is one carelessly discarded fag end and WHOOSH! The whole building would be up in smoke!

Fingers
10-10-2005, 18:39
Originally posted by Rich
True, no point in it really when you think about it, cos all the kids'd do is wreck the place probably :loopy:

After all, all it takes is one carelessly discarded fag end and WHOOSH! The whole building would be up in smoke!

I'm not opposed to youth clubs. I'm just not naive enough to believe that they will have much effect on the problems described in this thread given the influence of "street" culture and the existence of other entertainment venues which can offer more than any youth club.

Pseudonym
10-10-2005, 18:55
I'd say that a curfew is definitely needed to keep the unruly, antisocial and in some cases, downright dangerous behaviour of juveniles off the streets.

However... IF all parents were made FULLY resonsible for the actions of their offspring (including the snotty-nosed two-year-old little runt who happily lobbed a stone at my car, chipping the paintwork a while ago), then they'd have the incentive needed to control them.

This wouldn't happen overnight, like all animals, the human animal can be most efficiently trained from a very early age. Of the teenagers causing trouble now, many are virtually beyond the control of their parents (those parents that DO care) and are far too used to doing as they please.

Parental discipline needs to start as soon as possible, too many fond parents view their childs misbehavour as quite normal, a part of growing up and instead of correcting such behaviour, excuse them their actions with "Oh, he/she's only little, they don't know what they're doing". This often continues until the parent suddenly realises that the child's known all along exactly what it's doing and has no intention whatsover of stopping doing it... By which time the parents' admonitions and threatened punishment have little or no effect and the child is effectively beyond parental control.

You've only to see the 'child guidance' tv programmes in which children, some much younger than teenagers, regularly tell their parents to 'go forth and multiply'. If they've no respect for the authority of their parents, how can we possibly expect them to have much respect for anyone, or anything else?

Spare the rod, spoil the child... Both in school and out...

Scutts
10-10-2005, 19:02
Yes :clap:

It worked brilliantly last year, it's just a shame it can't be made permanant. :(

saxon51
10-10-2005, 19:07
That's the kids taken care of........ now what about the adult divvies who bred them? A 9.00am to 8.45 am curfew methinks. What?!! The post office doesn't open till 9.00 am?

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.:)

Pseudonym
10-10-2005, 19:23
Originally posted by saxon51
That's the kids taken care of........ now what about the adult divvies who bred them? A 9.00am to 8.45 am curfew methinks. What?!! The post office doesn't open till 9.00 am?

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.:)
LOL! Small steps at a time my friend, each generation has an effect on the one following, it'd be a slow process...

madowl
10-10-2005, 20:24
Yes we do need the cerfew.... its too easy to be intimidated by these gangs of kids.... not just because its coming up to bonfire night etc but there is a prob on this estate and I'd say that a curfew is definitely needed to keep the unruly.. antisocial ..juveniles off the streets.... you cant just say that they are bored and have nowt to do.... maybe there is very little for them to do places to go etc... but to slap a curfew on for these kids isnt the answer... they need long term investment, but its not only the kids with probs some of the familys round here are real sh@t heads and the kids are mini rolls of their parents... The parents should be made to pay! After all its they who made them that way... a few weeks ago a little brat squared up to me simply because i said no when he and the group he was with wanted me to go into the shop to buy his alcopops etc... the worst thing is the little gits know how far to push you and how little the police touch them... to be honest though its not just a parson cross prob.. its a everywhere problem!

torin8
11-10-2005, 19:04
Well I ask the question - ever walked down a main street in parson's cross after dark? Well if you have then you are braver than me. The need for more police is obvious... keep those police patrolling and if a curfew helps to keep kids off the streets and away from fireworks then that's all the better.

dieselbabe
12-10-2005, 09:43
Yes i think its a great idea.It is also down ecclesfield way and we get a few gangs hanging around the shop ect.Now im not a person to stop kids haveing fun but when it get to them being drunk and smashing neighbours windows and cars and stuff then yes this is what we need.Upto now i've seen no trouble when it's the curfew time, it has been a lot better and also the old people told me they are not up at silly hours of the night waiting for something to happen to call the police.There parents would not take all the noise and trouble outside there home's so why should we.

Internetowl
12-10-2005, 12:32
has any parson cross resident actually noticed how quiet its been since the curfew was imposed... have they had a stress free night? perhaps if they have then its been worth it.

or has all its done is move it along to somewhere else? perhaps a city wide curfew is the answer - 6pm to 6am.

Now that would be a real vote winner....

roger
12-10-2005, 14:32
parson cross is not as bad as its made out it is generally a good place most people get on or sort out their own problems then its over but there are a few who unfortunately even when presented with clear evidence either dont believe or dont care what their kids are doing it wouldnt be correct to name on here but most of the locals know the names of the small minority and until they are sorted the rest have to put up with the curfews if the courts clamped down on the yobs instead of the its not their fault excuses then maybe the police would have more time to attend incidents where they are needed instead of running around after useless trouble makers

sassy_1
14-10-2005, 18:12
I used to live on Parson Cross and it was a living hell especially around bonfire night. The curfew should be all year round.

roger
14-10-2005, 20:03
its not that bad i know of much worse areas but im not going to go down the we,re better than there road the point is yes the curfew is needed to curtail the activities of the few mindless morons but in general parson cross is ok
it needs stronger measures taken against the idiots so it puts off the younger ones who are no doubt seing these and thinking ill join them and be one of the in crowd

boyface
14-10-2005, 20:05
I've lived in Sheffield for about 8 years. I came here for uni and have stayed on.

I heard things about different areas, such as The Manor, Park Hill and Parson's Cross.

Due to where I lived I never really had any need to go to any of these areas, but I did go to Parson's Cross and have been a fair few times in the last 6 months, and seriously, I don't know what all the fuss is about?

I'm from a council estate in the north east and I think it's a nice place to live and be brought up and I dont see Parsons Cross as any different.

Sure there will be probelm kids. They're kids. Only difference been that they are a problem because their entertainment lies in creating their own on the streets....not getting handed twenty quid and sent to Centertainment, or getting bought black hoodie's and given money to go to corporation.

It's all relative, and believe me, these areas are so much nicer than other arears in major cities in the uk.

"kids hanging around shops" - whatever next, they may even buy something!