Hi

Im looking for some advice, maybe from any pub landlords etc, or anyone that knows..

Me and a group of friends are starting to learn the game and want t have a little get together to play..
It wouldnt be for any money, just so we can have a few beers and get some experience... plus for bragging rights...

Does anyone know if we would be cool to do this in a pub ?
I have been told that some landlords might be funny with us...
We would be playing just for chips. no money...

Can anyone advise...

City Centre would be preferable !!!

Thanks Alot

My brother and his mob have a portbable poker set they take with them to just about every pub!

Thats said, I wouldnt risk it in the city centre. Try the Bannercorss upstairs, or the Lescar back room. They are very tolerant.

Whats the risk... go in... buy a drink... and say to the landlord " do you mind if me and my mates have a game of cards. i can assure you no money will change hands.. "

most should be cool with that !!

Joe...

have it round someones house?...

i have (well used to have) a poker night once a night with a few mates....get your cans in, music of your choice, dim the lights, talk ****....sorted

Originally posted by sheff_joe
Whats the risk... go in... buy a drink... and say to the landlord " do you mind if me and my mates have a game of cards. i can assure you no money will change hands.. "

most should be cool with that !!

Joe...

You'd be amazed. We got barred from the Cutler simply for filling out our football predictions league. Apparently it classified as gambling on the premises, which is utter rubbish.

Originally posted by mikebayly
You'd be amazed. We got barred from the Cutler simply for filling out our football predictions league. Apparently it classified as gambling on the premises, which is utter rubbish.

Actually, you aren't allowed to have any type of betting slip on liscensed premises.

Fair enough, it might not be from a bookies, but if it involves gambling, it's illegal.

Is that gambling with money is illegal or any kind of gambling. Ie with Chips !
I never thought you would any problem, but i stand corrected. It seems it may not be easy.
Do you need any more players gem.

Originally posted by sheff_joe
Is that gambling with money is illegal or any kind of gambling. Ie with Chips !
I never thought you would any problem, but i stand corrected. It seems it may not be easy.
Do you need any more players gem.

You can play certain games for small stakes, Crib, Billiards and Bridge(?) I think.

There's a licsence sheet on display in every pub which displays the current laws on gambling in pubs.

:thumbsup:

find a sleepy pub with a friendly owner....go a few times and get in with him then ask if it would be ok

Hi,

It illegal in pubs to play for anything other than ''small'' stakes, whatever a small stake might be ????

I have been kicked out of several pubs for playing basic cards for pennies in the past as landlords are scared stiff of betting on the premises.

My advice is to play at home any have some cans. You will only get grief in a pub.

Oh and don't try it in ireland, they go ape sh*t.

If you only play for chips, that is perfectly legal in a pub or anywhere else. Probably better in a nice quiet pub somewhere so that the landlord can tell you're not betting money. We have a poker night (just for chips) every wednesday in the Old Heavygate Inn in Walkley and they're fine about it.

Originally posted by m_canning
If you only play for chips, that is perfectly legal in a pub or anywhere else. Probably better in a nice quiet pub somewhere so that the landlord can tell you're not betting money. We have a poker night (just for chips) every wednesday in the Old Heavygate Inn in Walkley and they're fine about it.

Yes, but most landlords will think you are substituting the chips for real cash, at least to begin with.

I would assume the same tbh.

Originally posted by liencam
Yes, but most landlords will think you are substituting the chips for real cash, at least to begin with.

I would assume the same tbh.

If you weren't there would be little point in using them for poker, so I think, with poker at least, it's a reasonable assumption.

Started a poker club every wednesday night at a pub in Walkley. We do not pay for money...got chips etc...so it's totally legal.

Poker is not on the list of permitted games for small stakes play in pubs...although it should be because like crib, doms etc it's a 'game of equal chance.' Also pubs are not permitted to charge for hosting any permitted games where betting takes place (they would need a gaming licence)

Best thing to do is go to your landlord, ask 'em if it's OK to play for fun...reassure them it's not illegal etc.

You seem to be missing the point of Poker. It is design as a game for BETTING. If you are not playing for hard cash then your not playing poker. Your hand selection, betting structure and calling will be way off. As soon as you decide your good enough to play for cash you'll get hammered. Even if the stakes are low you have to play for money or you not really playing poker.

A license is needed for gambling in public places be it a betting shop, pub, casino etc.

Gambling at home is an entirely different matter.

never played poker with friends...I usually play with cards

could be funny though ...shuffling your friends

dealing a new hand....what happened to the old hand

how many friends can you hold in 1 hand

instead of cutting the pack...you could cut your friend

which 1 of your friends is the joker

for the highest pair...you could have twins

:D

Originally posted by Cuey
You seem to be missing the point of Poker. It is design as a game for BETTING. If you are not playing for hard cash then your not playing poker. Your hand selection, betting structure and calling will be way off. As soon as you decide your good enough to play for cash you'll get hammered. Even if the stakes are low you have to play for money or you not really playing poker.

I see what you're saying here...but have to disagree. It all depends on the motivation of a particular player...and what's at stake. Many people going into casinos for... lets say... a ten quid buy-in tournament will exhibit the same reckless attitude to playing the odds as someone playing for nowt in a play money game. They're simply not bothered about the money so they're loose players . Conversely someone playing for play money...if they're doing it for the ego...would adopt the same strategy used by the average professional. If the motivation is to prove you're the better player ...and that means more to you than money...then you'd adopt the same hand selection, pre flop/post flop betting strategy etc etc.

I completely disagree with the point about moving from play money to real money. You have to learn how to play the player...and ...given a brain... can learn enough about the game playing for plastic to succeed in a casino. There's no fixed real money style of play. Surely the point is there's a whole range of playing styles among real money players anyway...and you'll always have to adjust your game to suit the environment you're in.

Soory Monk but i have to completely disagree. Yes one player may study all the books and work out all the odds (which is more likey with 10k on the table than a half a shandy) but the very nature of a free game is different. In any case your point on £10 tourneys holds true before te rebuys but rarely afterwards.

You'll sit and play for free and wait for your AK or QQ and wonder why you're always outdrawn. It's because the idiot who called with 7-3 wouldn't be in the pot if he was putting up hard cash. The simple truth is that unlike many other card games poker was design for one reason only!! Gambling !! withut money your learn next to nothing because you'll always make those margin calls that you'd wet yurself over if it was for a few thousand.

(and yes i have played tourneys with a lot more than that on the table)

I'm not saying put your house and car kys in the pot but the stakes have to be enough to make you think a little.

Originally posted by Cuey
withut money your learn next to nothing because you'll always make those margin calls that you'd wet yurself over if it was for a few thousand.



I fully understand what your saying here Cuey. But ...and you might not believe this...we actually do have some players in our little club who actually don't make those marginal calls...because they want to win the nights tourney. The incentive...we have a league table and they want to win it. People who play like nutters usually bust out pretty quick and learn little. Can ego be a greater incentive than money?

It's also great to know real money players don't usually call a massive pre-flop raise with 72 offsuit!!! In some respects that's making real money play easier.

It'd be great to see you at a night sometime and we could test the theory...with you pointing out which of the plays are 'realistic' and which are not. And it's been great talking poker!;)

True it does make it a little easier i suppose. What it also does is turn it more into a skill game than a bingo night. If you can estimate opening hands etc then your skill level will teach you to approximate your chances of being ahead. If eveyone called with anything then it's just play and pray.

I suppose it doesn't matter how you learn as long as you realise you have something to learn (and we all do). I love internet players that rate themselves 10 out of 10. I think wow i've played with devilfish and Phil Hellmuth and even they wouldn't say they have nothing to learn.

For reference blondepoker web site is superb and you can also read about the hell of being a pro and having a bad run (the amounts will make your eyes water) No names or you'll look me up and realise i'm rubbish :gag:

Good luck, may all your hands be aces and remember.
"you got to know when to fold them, know when to hold them, know when to walk away know when to run" now tell me you wheren't all singing along.:clap:

you really MUST play poker for cash, me and a group of mates usually play a tournament with a £5 buy, since a fiver is bugger all for a fun night of getting drunk and playing poker. However winning £ 50 is well worth playing for.

None of use are that great but we have a right laugh.

best bet would be meet up round a mates house. but having said that we play in a pub.

Anyone know if the gambling laws apply to a "private party" ?

See ive always been told that aslong as no money is changing hands then a landlord can serve all night, since its a private party ie hes got a few mates round his "house" for a few drinks/

Originally posted by Hubert
you really MUST play poker for cash, me and a group of mates usually play a tournament with a £5 buy, since a fiver is bugger all for a fun night of getting drunk and playing poker. However winning £ 50 is well worth playing for.

None of use are that great but we have a right laugh.

best bet would be meet up round a mates house. but having said that we play in a pub.

Anyone know if the gambling laws apply to a "private party" ?

See ive always been told that aslong as no money is changing hands then a landlord can serve all night, since its a private party ie hes got a few mates round his "house" for a few drinks/

Lock-ins are perfectly legal, so long as you don't pay for the beer. You can make a donation, but can't buy the beer.

With the change in the licensing laws, I'm sure the police will be a litttle more lenient anyway.