View Full Version : City Centre Traffic - Sort out Shalesmoor, please!
TheRedWizard 07-10-2005, 08:23 Is anybody being driven mad by the traffic due to Shalesmoor being closed and other closures in the vacinity? Buses from the north are a nightmare, being diverted off the A61 and down onto Westbar by the police HQ. That cut through can take 25 minutes of solid traffic on some days. Moreover, the traffic filtering onto westbar seems to causing big queues back up broad lane.
Please get it sorted!
Get used to it RedWizard.
It'll be like that for a long time yet while they build the new Inner relief Road.
Ousetunes 07-10-2005, 09:02 Not that there'll be any improvement once the roadworks are finished.
Our council's love of traffic lights (and all things to infuriate the motorist) will see traffic lights which favour the pedestrian or minor side roads placed every twenty yards.
Mark my words.
Originally posted by Ousetunes
Not that there'll be any improvement once the roadworks are finished.
Our council's love of traffic lights (and all things to infuriate the motorist) will see traffic lights which favour the pedestrian or minor side roads placed every twenty yards.
Mark my words.
You know that's not strictly true. In NORTH Sheffield they may go mad with traffic lights and people don't want them, but here in Bradway the community has been campaigning for years for traffic lights to control the busy junctions at the top and bottom of Twentywell Lane (which is also a nightmare for pedestrians wanting to cross as well as motorist) and where are we now? Still nothing at the bottom of Twentywell Lane, although traffic is getting heavier, but we do have action at the top - yup, lots of bollards and beacons. DOH! If you guys in north Sheffield have traffic lights to spare can we have them please?!
WallBuilder 07-10-2005, 13:24 I've walked along Shalesmoor twice recently and it is a bit of a mess but at least there are workmen and machinery moving around working which is a hell of a lot better than the times when you see a fenced off hole, road disruption and not a hard hat in sight. Traffic coming down West Bar can be rather ignorant of the lights and pedestrians and I stood and watched yesterday as more than one car tried to force their way out on to the roundabout which caused other drivers to lean on their horns, talk about grumpy.
Ousetunes 07-10-2005, 13:33 Originally posted by Andy C
You know that's not strictly true. In NORTH Sheffield they may go mad with traffic lights and people don't want them, but here in Bradway the community has been campaigning for years for traffic lights to control the busy junctions at the top and bottom of Twentywell Lane (which is also a nightmare for pedestrians wanting to cross as well as motorist) and where are we now? Still nothing at the bottom of Twentywell Lane, although traffic is getting heavier, but we do have action at the top - yup, lots of bollards and beacons. DOH! If you guys in north Sheffield have traffic lights to spare can we have them please?!
I am a firm believer that wherever placing traffic lights would help speed-up traffic, then the council will refuse to put lights there. The junction you mention at the bottom of Twentywell Lane is a prime example. A similar junction is the one at the top of Stephen Hill in Crosspool.
In both instances, introducing traffic lights would help improve the flow of traffic. IMO the fact that no lights have been put in these highly-merited places, makes me think that the council's objective in siting traffic lights is simply to slow traffic down.
Oh, not forgetting that both junctions are situated in the more wealthy areas of Sheffield. The new tarmac on Redmires Road, now approaching a month since being laid, is still awaiting its white lines (and double-yellows, no doubt).
the fonz 07-10-2005, 14:07 The main purpose of many of the traffic lights in the outside of the city centre in sheffield is to reduce the amount of traffic in the city centre by regulating it, its a matter of opinion if it works or not.
Much of the redevelopment in the city centre such as on Eyre Street is designed to discourage car use in the city centre.
Basically councils are getting more and more anti car, especially in the city centres.
GabbleRatcht 07-10-2005, 14:26 Originally posted by the fonz
Basically councils are getting more and more anti car, especially in the city centres.
Depends who you are. Just check out the defense! Amazing!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/yorkslincs/series6/car_parking.shtml
Bigots!
what do you suggest? I reckon they should build a large dual carriageway to take the traffic around the centre perhaps. maybe down through the wicker and up to the parkway.....
...that should sort the traffic out.
GabbleRatcht 07-10-2005, 14:43 They have just reduced Meadowhead FROM a dual carridge way to two lanes with a priority traffic light switched 24 hour bus lane. Traffic is backed up the A61 as far as I can see as we speak. I bet it's out within a year.
Getting my car into my own drive way is becomeing a nightmare.
slimsid2000 07-10-2005, 14:48 Bus companies should not use things like this as an excuse for late running or non-running buses. The 81 from Stannington seems a particular case where unreliability is a continual issue.
Originally posted by GabbleRatcht
They have just reduced Meadowhead FROM a dual carridge way to two lanes with a priority traffic light switched 24 hour bus lane. Traffic is backed up the A61 as far as I can see as we speak. I bet it's out within a year.
Getting my car into my own drive way is becomeing a nightmare.
The good thing about this scheme is actually that roadside parking is now available round the clock, then the bus lane is available without parked cars in it. Then cars have a single lane without buses pulling in and out of it, so in theory it's an improvement.
Well it would be if the bus lane didn't suddenly just dissapear halfway down the hill causing absolute chaos on the approaches to Woodseats....
Originally posted by the fonz
Much of the redevelopment in the city centre such as on Eyre Street is designed to discourage car use in the city centre.
Basically councils are getting more and more anti car, especially in the city centres.
I think as far as the city centre goes, what you need to achieve is to discourage through traffic away from the city centre, which means providing a good alternative route, and balance this with providing reasonable access and parking for those coming into the city centre to do business (and of course keeping this traffic away from pedestrians). I don't see this as anti-car, it is simply sensible to avoid the city centre becoming gridlocked and unpleasant.
Meanwhile of course, there are many more people coming into town to work or shop than you could reasonably expect to provide capacity for bringing in cars though, so you do have to take measures to ensure the public transport alternative performs well and has attractive journey times, in order that as many as possible do see that as a better option than bringing a car in where it is sensible to do so.
As for Shalesmoor, yes it is a mess, but look how much work is going on. A big new road, the inner ring road extension, is being constructed, knackered, ugly old buildings are being demolished to make way for it, and lots of exciting new developments are being built at the same time, regenerating the area. So bear with it, because when it's finished I'm sure it will have been worth all the trouble!
GabbleRatcht 07-10-2005, 21:58 Originally posted by Andy C
Well it would be if the bus lane didn't suddenly just dissapear halfway down the hill causing absolute chaos on the approaches to Woodseats....
Thank you, my point exactly:mad:
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