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Mr BusDriver 20-01-2004, 23:04 I would like to know why the area's in Sheffield are called what they are?.
The easy one is Hillsborough = the Borough of hills
Sheffield is realy Sheaffield as named after the River Sheaf.
Also if you would like your area to be re-named what would you call it?:D
Ecclesall = People used to eat eccles cakes in a hall*
*not the real reason
Shiregreen =all the houses in the Shire are painted Green*
*not the real reason
Mr BusDriver 20-01-2004, 23:47 Originally posted by Jon
Shiregreen =all the houses in the Shire are painted Green*
*not the real reason
How about Dore?
I think it should be called Doors as all the big houses have lots of them (Poor Postmen):D
Crookes?..........wonder how that got its name.........
When I worked in Fulwood we called the area round the Rising Sun "Near The Groin".
Norton your nelly.
Frank Highfield - he taught me how to yodel...................
Ecclesall - Somewhere between Broomhall and F***all.....
mojoworking 21-01-2004, 03:01 I really hope this doesn't cause offence (because no offence is meant), but would it be too much to ask that posters refrain from using unnecessary (no to mention incorrect) apostrophes? I can understand the odd one or two slipping through in the body of a posting, but it looks especially unsightly in the Post Subject headings (eg Name's). Just because a word ends in the letter "s" doesn't mean it automatically needs an apostrophe. Sorry for the lecture, but we all have our pet hates...
mojoworking 21-01-2004, 03:05 And of course that last posting should have read "NOT to mention". Hoist with my own petard, I think!
*Twinkle* 21-01-2004, 06:18 would it be too much to ask that posters refrain from using unnecessary (no to mention incorrect) apostrophes?
Don't we already have the apostrophe police? Or am I getting confused with something else?!
escafeld 21-01-2004, 06:51 The one that always got me was Brightside. The view on a smog free day was of all the steel works on the east side. Perhaps its different now, "Desolate side" would be more appropriate.
Originally posted by Mr BusDriver
How about Dore?
Isn't it an ancient mispelling of Bore ?
Originally posted by caprice
Don't we already have the apostrophe police? Or am I getting confused with something else?!
I think you're getting confused with the grammar police, the generic name for those tireless beings who wander these fora at odd hours picking up people's blatant and glaring misspellings, syntactical and semantic bloomers and title misdeeds.
I'm assured, we mods have contact with the shadowy world of grammarians you understand, that the aberrant apostrophe in the title would have been seamlessly eradicated. However, as a post has been raised alerting the populace to the heinousness of the originator's sin it would lead to bafflement if the grammar police were now to swoop down and obliterate the offending "'".
Hope that clears it up for you caprice.:D
There is a similar thread here:
Sheffield names (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2176&highlight=walkley)
But as the current one has a poll I've not merged them.
Originally posted by mojoworking
I really hope this doesn't cause offence (because no offence is meant), but would it be too much to ask that posters refrain from using unnecessary (no to mention incorrect) apostrophes? I can understand the odd one or two slipping through in the body of a posting, but it looks especially unsightly in the Post Subject headings (eg Name's). Just because a word ends in the letter "s" doesn't mean it automatically needs an apostrophe. Sorry for the lecture, but we all have our pet hates...
Not only have you changed the topic into some "I hate it when...." you may have put someone off who is dyslexia or have some other learning difficulty from using the board.
(no to mention incorrect) should be (not to mention incorrect)
See, nobody perfect.
Back on topic.
Intake where you never get outtakes.*
*not the real reason
major decker 21-01-2004, 08:28 Originally posted by mojoworking
I really hope this doesn't cause offence (because no offence is meant), but would it be too much to ask that posters refrain from using unnecessary (no to mention incorrect) apostrophes? I can understand the odd one or two slipping through in the body of a posting, but it looks especially unsightly in the Post Subject headings (eg Name's). Just because a word ends in the letter "s" doesn't mean it automatically needs an apostrophe. Sorry for the lecture, but we all have our pet hates...
Have you really got nothing better to do???
jackthedog 21-01-2004, 08:34 It get's' on a lot of people's nerves's', so I can see why they make complaint's.
Could one of the mods please remove the above posts that have no relevance to this thread.
OK Fellow Sheffielders, back to the topic:
Firth Park
Part of a thirty-six acre estate donated by Mark Firth to the good people of Sheffield and opened to the public in 1875 by the Prince and Princess of Wales.
Page Hall
Site of ye olde Page Hall. Now renamed Abbey Grange Nursing Home :rolleyes:. Access is from Cammell Road if you're interested, or if you've any old relatives you want rid of.
Burngreave (Byron’s Wood )
The name Burngreave was first recorded in 1440 as Byrongreve, meaning or ‘the wood belonging to Byron’, an Old English name from Anglo Saxon times.
Osgathorpe (Viking’s corner)
There aren’t very many Viking names in Sheffield. After the Romans left it was first in the British kingdom of Elmet and then lay on the border of northern and middle England, the Anglo Saxon kingdom of Northumberland and Danish Mercia. ‘Thorpe’ comes from the Danish word for ‘a corner of land’ but ‘Osga’ could come from an Old Norse or an old English name.
Pitsmoor
First recorded as ‘Ore Pitts’, Pitsmoor was once the site of iron ore quarries and it’s Old English name is evidence of metal working in Sheffield in the pre-roman, iron age days of Wincobank fort.
Brightside
Brightside is the "Brightside of the valley" note where the sun rises or (more likely) named after General John Bright of Cromwell's army who rode to York for help when Sheffield Castle was threatened by Royalists troops.
Attercliffe
If you look down the valley at Attercliffe you see a "Cliff on the left where wincobank is, so It`s "at the cliffe" or Attercliffe comes from"otter cliffe", where the otters were seen frequently years ago.
Wincobank
It has been suggested that Winco (meaning Wen-coed or wooded hill') is of Celtic origin. Sheffield is the only city in the world that has an Iron Age Hill Fort within its boundaries. The site was probably occupied earlier than the Iron Age and would have been reoccupied to oppose the Roman advance, marked by their fortress at Templeborough on the outskirts of Rotherham
My thanks to you all.
Sources:
http://www.burngreavemessenger.org.uk/messenger/april2002/name.shtml
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5118
http://oldster.future.easyspace.com/brig.html
http://www.villagepublications.co.uk/bradway/archive/history.htm
Edit - no I would not rename Firth Park. If you have a problem with the area name, you really are very sad
I wonder where "Crookes" comes from?? ;) :P
Sam Miguel 21-01-2004, 11:53 Originally posted by max
I think you're getting confused with the grammar police, the generic name for those tireless beings who wander these fora at odd hours picking up people's blatant and glaring misspellings, syntactical and semantic bloomers and title misdeeds.
I'm assured, we mods have contact with the shadowy world of grammarians you understand, that the aberrant apostrophe in the title would have been seamlessly eradicated. However, as a post has been raised alerting the populace to the heinousness of the originator's sin it would lead to bafflement if the grammar police were now to swoop down and obliterate the offending "'".
Hope that clears it up for you caprice.:D
I am so sorry to pick up on such an apparent triviality, but should it be 'grammaticians', and not 'grammarians'?
Anyway, if there's a Heeley Bottom, where is Heeley Top? And if there's a Gleadless, where is the Gleadmore estate.
I used to know someone who moved to Sheffield who thought that if it said 'Intake' above the door on the side of the bus, it meant that was where you got on.
One final thought. If you had a Fulwood, you would easily be able to make a Woodhouse complete with a Dore, even though ruining the woods might make the Fox 'ill and the Parson Cross.
Tony Ruscoe 21-01-2004, 12:21 You might also find these thread of interest:
Origin of Sheffield name (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=69)
Why call it that? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=720)
One thing that annoys me is when peopkle get areas mixed up.
For example I live at Gleadless Valley and people always say oh you're lucky right on the tram route.
Gleadless Townend is on the tram route, I live 20 mins walk away for a tram stop at Herdings Park.
Also I used to live at Wadsley which people always thought was the same as Wadsley Bridge, at least half a mile apart...
I know Wadsley Bridge is named after the railway bridge that crosses Halifax Road but does anyone know why the bridge is called Wadsley Bridge when as I say its not in Wadsley. Hillsbrough is nearer so why not Hillsbrough Bridge???
No idea about Gleadless except Gleadless Valley becuase there is a valley in the middle, and Gleadless Townend is at the Townend of Gleadless.
I know that Sheffield Lane Top is called becuase part of Barnsley Road was once called Sheffield Land and as its at the top of a hill hence Sheffield Lane TOP.
Anyone please feel to correct this infomation is I am wrong.
Jubby
uncleheed 20-02-2004, 16:29 the name "ecclesfield" means church in the field i.e eclesiastic (excuse spelling)
Originally posted by Mr BusDriver
How about Dore?
Dore means Gateway - IE Gateway to the city
I'd rename Stanninton nobusville.... cos it's a village with no reliable bus service.
Sorry to keep bleating on and on about that but it's something i'm on a rant about of late.
Further to the place names all places ending in 'LEY' signifies clearing in a forest, ending in 'TON' denotes an enclosed farmstead, 'THORPE' denotes small farmstead, and many of the street/road names originate from people or things to do with the specific street/road.
Dore is a gateway, but between 2 kingdoms, Mercia and Northumbria I think. The border ran from Dore through the Moss Valley.
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