I've read claims that Lincoln Cathederal and Humber Bridge are visible from various parts of Sheffield (ie Grenoside, Wharncliffe Crags, Norton Water Tower etc) on a clear day.

This seems ridiculous. Can anyone personally confirm these claims?

A few million miles on a good day.

Well I can see the sun you know!
:D :P :thumbsup:

I know that if you go up towards the jawbone through Grenoside, you can see right out into Nottinghamshire. There is power station visible (don't know exactly where it is) but it's near Nottingham.

I have counted a number of visible power stations out in the distance. I thought Drax might be one of them, which admittedly is a long way away. But it's not exactly Lincoln Cathederal is it!

I really want to be proved wrong, cos it's amazing if you can actually see as far as people say. I just can't imagine it.

It depends how high up you are.

I read somewhere that from five miles up, the horizon would be 200 mile away.

So if you were on a plane over Sheffield flying south, you would just about be able to see the south coast.

Amazing.

This reminds me of a question in Trivial Pursuit.

'Which country can be seen from the top of Blackpool Tower?'



The team racked their brains.....France? Ireland? Scotland?
Stunningly, the answer was England.

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
I know that if you go up towards the jawbone through Grenoside, you can see right out into Nottinghamshire. There is power station visible (don't know exactly where it is) but it's near Nottingham.

from rainbow kennels you can see a line of four power stations,i believe the most southerly of them is trent ,between retford and saxilby.

Well from Marsh lane (just above Eckington) you can see all the power stations on the Trent,so that would be Dunham Bridge which is just before Saxilby which is just outside Lincoln.Also it is a good spot for DXers (Radio Hams) as I often see them parked up at the side of the road with there 2M aerials out.

I wouldn't have tought you could as far as Lincoln.

For every mile your view looses a foot (because of the Eart's curve) hense the higher up you are the better the view.

From the old Houndkirk road (near Ringinglow) you can see several power stations to the North of Sheff. I had my binoculars with me and it's quite a sight...!!

Originally posted by gizmo
from rainbow kennels you can see a line of four power stations,i believe the most southerly of them is trent ,between retford and saxilby.

One of them would be West Burton Power Station, it is located about 4 miles west of Gainsborough on the Retford-Gainsborough railway line

If you drive along Ringinglow Road out into the peaks, where you drive over that cattle grid - somewhere 'lees' i seem to remember, there is a parking bay on the left hand side, where you can look out over the peaks from the hillside.

From that area - you can tune your radio into BBC Crymu (Welsh), BRMB (Birmingham's answer to Hallam FM), and Leicester Sound. On autosearch - your radio seems to catch on ever 0.2 of an FM frequency; so there may be others that i have overlooked.

Hope that pleasures you anomely folk!!!

Well a bit of surfing ont tinternet brought forth a calculator,anyone any idea how tall Lincoln cathedral is?

http://www.netacc.net/~poulsen/howfar.html

Originally posted by biggus
Well a bit of surfing ont tinternet brought forth a calculator,anyone any idea how tall Lincoln cathedral is?

http://www.netacc.net/~poulsen/howfar.html

This doesn't take into account hills of course!

Try http://www.megalithia.com/elect/terrain.html to see the terrain vs line of sight between two places.

And for a suite of old programs that can draw terrain maps and horizon views and things like that try http://www.btinternet.com/~g8yoa/geog/geog.html

As far as I am aware from Marsh Lane there are no hills towards Lincoln,That is why the aforementioned DXers go there to transmit,also whilst I have been trying to find Lincolns elevation I found a site about Crich,and it says on there that Linclon Cathedral can be seen on a clear day from the stump,which I think is the memorial on the clifftop.Ps the Cathedral is 271 Ft high,anyone got an OS map?

Bored so googled. Until 1548 the tower stood at 524 feet at which time it blew down. Perhaps the idea of seeing Lincoln Cathedral from Sheffield is a folk memory from the 16th century.

Terrain from Marsh Lane to Lincoln Cathedral.

http://www.megalithia.com/elect/terrain.php?ngr=SK322873&bht=2&ngr1=SK979719&dht=83&go=go

So you should be able to see it with good enough eyes or binoculars (on a very clear day)

ps. the earth looks really curved in the plot because of the different scales between x and y axes.

You just beat me Ant I got the following:-

How far can you see? Close report
You said:
Your height: 6 feet
Your elevation: 728.35 feet
Object height: 271 feet
Object elevation: 205.71 feet

Using these values, these are the distances you can see:

Your optical horizon is 46.96 miles (247926.72 feet) away.
You can see this object to a distance of 84.79 miles (447681.99 feet).



Terrain between SK397787 and SK979719
Site parameters
Base ngr of SK397787
Base height is 222.4 m above sea level
Base aerial is 2 m above ground
Distant station NGR SK979719
Distant station height 62.7 m above sea level
Distant aerial 100 m above ground
Distance between stations 36.4 miles (58.6 km)

which shows a direct line of sight,and as i can see Norton Water tower from there I would assume that you could see the Cathedral from there.

Dunno about all that, but you get a great view of Sheffield from inside the wards in the Hallamshire Hospital. Amazing.

Shame I was in there visiting my little granny.

At night Sheffield is one of the most exciting sights in the world. All the lights glowing away.

NM

Yeah, it's a shame we only get to see the Hallamshire's fantastic views under such depressing circumstances, cos it is an amazing sight.


So after all that scientific chat, we can see, on a clear day, Lincoln Cathederal?

I have to admit I got a bit lost amongst al the figures, but if that's what your saying, it's pretty amazing.

And, if that's true, what about the Humber Bridge?

Calculators at the ready.

Or is that pushing it? :)

Hmm, I'm not sure about Lincoln Catherdral. Reputedly you can see York Minster from the hill above Stocksbridge and Green Moor, and there is a little plaque there to tell you so...
Also, if the world wasn't curved you'd be able to see Russia from the top of the hill at Wincobank (above Meadowhall), as it is the tallest hill between here and Russia. But i'm sure thats true about lots of hills...

Originally posted by carrie
'if the world wasn't curved you'd be able to see Russia from the top of the hill at Wincobank (above Meadowhall), as it is the tallest hill between here and Russia. But i'm sure thats true about lots of hills... '

I hate to argue with you, Carrie, but this just cannot be.

I hope it's true, cos we could build a really long slide.

Originally posted by jackthedog
I hope it's true, cos we could build a really long slide.

No you can't. This is dependent on the fact that the world is flat, which it's not.

Is it?

Originally posted by jackthedog
And, if that's true, what about the Humber Bridge?

Calculators at the ready.

Or is that pushing it? :)

Well... Apparently, if you stand right on the top of the Hallamshire, you might just be able to see the very tips of the Humber Bridge on an extremeley clear day with some good binoculars.

http://www.megalithia.com/elect/terrain.php?ngr=SK338869&bht=76&ngr1=TA027246&dht=185&go=go

And from Marsh Lane too...

http://www.megalithia.com/elect/terrain.php?ngr=SK322873&bht=2&ngr1=TA027246&dht=185&go=go

Originally posted by jackthedog

And, if that's true, what about the Humber Bridge?

Calculators at the ready.

Or is that pushing it? :)

The only time I have seen Humber Bridge from this area was up in a plane (cessna) heading towards Doncaster, could be clearly seen in the distance as well as the coast line.

Now that sounds quite feasible. No arguments there.

But according to the flat world society, Russia is visible from the top of Wincobank Hill.

And as ( supposedly) it's the only hill between here and Russia, can you imagine the scholars in Moscow (on hearing that the world WAS really flat), being able to view Woolley Woods, Norton Water Tower, AND, as an added bonus, Mrs Richard's knickers blowing spendiforously on her washing line in Grenoside.

Well.

There are many places in the east of England (all the way from Kent to Yorkshire) that are the highest point before (travelling east) you get to the Ural Mountains in Russia.......which explains why the coldest weather we get is when the wind blows from the east.

.......and getting back to the original thread........looking east from my house I can see the church spire at Laughton - en - le - Morthen.

And I have seen York Minster from the top of the tower of Wortley Church .....but my eyes were better in those days.


And on a more whimsical note I think one of the great things about Sheffield is that in most places we live you can see a good few miles.....which explains why Sheffielders have usually got more vision than many other places where all you can see is the house across the road (but I really shouldn't be that rude to Mancs, Brummies, Cockneys etc).

Hmmm... Marsh Lane to Lincoln and Wincobank Hill to the Gorki No.1 people's tractor factory?
Dunno about those, but when I used to mess about on 2m and 70cms mobile my favourite spot was always up Redmires Road above Crosspool. And from there, on a clear day, it is possible to see the TV transmitting mast at Waltham-on-the-Wolds, near Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire, getting on for 60 miles away as the crow flies!

ooooh i drove past that very transmitter just the other day. Couldn't see Sheffield though.

I take that back, Carrie, about the Russia thing. It seems you have a point. Its amazing!

I suppose you don't realise how flat this country is when you live in such hilly surroundings as this.

I bet Mr Helicopter would know

You bet he'd know what?

You CAN see Lincoln Cathederal From Marsh Lane & from the water tower at Norton, when you could go up it but you really need binoculars. I have seen it from both locations.

That's what I wanted to hear!

the view from (the legendary) Rudd Hill... (http://www.daevh.co.uk/ruddhillview.jpg)

on a clear day (ie. not in this pic) you can see for miles. it's also great for sledging down ;)

in the early seventies you were allowed at certain times to go up norton water tower, we went up with binoculars and the guide pointed out lincoln cathedral to us,ive also been informed that on a crisp bright day you can just make out the mountains in wales from the top of kinder scout, small world init ?

I saw the Belt of Orion Sunday night. That's a fair distance away.

Originally posted by byron
Hmmm... Marsh Lane to Lincoln and Wincobank Hill to the Gorki No.1 people's tractor factory?
Dunno about those, but when I used to mess about on 2m and 70cms mobile my favourite spot was always up Redmires Road above Crosspool. And from there, on a clear day, it is possible to see the TV transmitting mast at Waltham-on-the-Wolds, near Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire, getting on for 60 miles away as the crow flies!

Just a quick aside, Byron - are you still active?

I used to like it up tehre as well - went up there a few times with 2.5W on 2m feeding an HB9CV. Very good results, even in flat conditions.

Nowadays I'm not so active, licensed as G0RNC.

Joe

My friend has seen several million lightyears from sheffield - but he is studying astronomy!
The top of Sorby halls is a good place to spot things from.

Mr Busdriver, it is indeed West Burton power station...i fly regularly just past the power station, enroute Sturgate, (Gainsbro'). Just to the right of W.B.P.S is R.A.F. Scampton, (the home of the Red Arrows, R313).
Above my home airfield (EGNF), you can see the Humber Bridge, Sherburn aerodrome... (well nearly)....the power stations are a major visual reference for VFR traffic.

From the top of Hoober Stand (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=440000&Y=397000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=25000&up.x=146&up.y=9) you can see York on a clear day.

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if you go on the sheffield round walk there is a site dedicated with a map ,

walk from endcliffe park up to fulwood head
when you get to fulwood head turn right and go for 100 yards and on the right you'll find a memorial stone which has an etched plate on top showing every thing you can see in the distance includin the powerstations and lincoln cathedral ( and yes it is visible on a very clear day and with a very good set of binoculars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

if you go by car go up eccleshall rd to ringinlow rd and go streight up unti you come to the cross rds a mile or so up turn right just after the pub (sorry fogotten its name) and follow the rd down, it turns tight to tje right and the stone is 100 yards on the right

I havent read the entire thing here so Im sorry if im repeating, but i was told that its possible to see the towers of the humber bridge from certain parts of sheffield on a clear day.

when i breathe in i can see my feet

As far as I am aware from Marsh Lane there are no hills towards Lincoln,That is why the aforementioned DXers go there to transmit,also whilst I have been trying to find Lincolns elevation I found a site about Crich,and it says on there that Linclon Cathedral can be seen on a clear day from the stump,which I think is the memorial on the clifftop.Ps the Cathedral is 271 Ft high,anyone got an OS map?

Lincoln is about 52 miles from Norton Water tower, the horizon on flat terrain is about 50 miles away. Now there is a gradiant between here and Lincoln - just as you leave the A1 and continue on the A57.

However, given the repsective heights of the water tower and the Cathedral I guess it might just be possible. However, the atmospheric conditions would need to be perfect, no heat haze, no polution, no cloud/fog/drizzle etc, so a rare event at best.

From the viewpoint near Porter Clough, where there is a viewing table, you can see Lincoln Cathedral (if conditions allow) and also the tops of the towers of the Humber Bridge.

Did you know that the tops of the Humber Bridge towers are further apart than the bottoms to allow for the curve of the earth's surface? (About 1.5 inches).

I havent read the entire thing here so Im sorry if im repeating, but i was told that its possible to see the towers of the humber bridge from certain parts of sheffield on a clear day.

I think the northern part of Lincolnshire Wolds would prevent this.

This reminds me of a question in Trivial Pursuit.

'Which country can be seen from the top of Blackpool Tower?'



The team racked their brains.....France? Ireland? Scotland?
Stunningly, the answer was England.
No, you can see Wales too!

At the top of the Porter Valley, at the junction of Fulwood Lane and Greenhouse Lane, there's a viewpoint that was put there a couple of years ago, and one of the places on it is Lincoln Cathedral, and I have, on a very clear day, seen it, though you need binoculars. What you can see in fact is that distinctive shape that you see as you come down the A57 towards Lincoln along the canal, with the ridge on the skyline and the towers of the cathedral on the end.
It's worth a trip up to the viewpoint, there are quite a few places marked, as well as the power stations with their names. And I think the Humber Bridge is included, but I'm not sure. (Sorry Hopman, only just saw your post)

No, you can see Wales too!

And the Isle of Man.

The River Trent power stations can be seen from viewing spots in the Manor Top/Intake/Frecheville area.

From the Sheffield boundary on Ringinglow Road (approx 1368ft) to the Centre of the Humber Bridge is 53.2miles, the highest point(s) on the bridge are the towers at 510ft.

From the same point in Sheffield Lincoln cathedral would not be visible as Ox Stones north of Lady Canning's plantation is slightly higher than the point on Ringinglow Road

From Norton water tower (approx 722ft*) to Lincoln cathedral (highest point 271ft) as the crow flies is some 38.7miles

*I couldn't find a correct height on-line for Norton Water Tower, the height given is for the surrounding ground level.

I'm now thinking about taking a trip up Lincoln cathedral with the camera and a long telephoto lens to see if I can get a photo of Sheffield. I wonder if I would be able to make out the arts tower?

And the Isle of Man.

The top Snaefell to Margery Hill (the higest point in Sheffield) is 125miles! but more than half of the distance is across The Irish Sea so nothing to block the view.

The top Snaefell to Margery Hill (the higest point in Sheffield) is 125miles! but more than half of the distance is across The Irish Sea so nothing to block the view.
:confused: I think the Isle of Man may have been mentioned in relation to Blackpool Tower.

From the top of Bardon hill you can see sugarloaf mountain in Wales, and once I nick the hill and drag it back to Sheffield...

The top Snaefell to Margery Hill (the higest point in Sheffield) is 125miles! but more than half of the distance is across The Irish Sea so nothing to block the view.


You've just got The Peaks in the way!!!

A. Snaefell 2034 ft
B. Margery Hill 1791 ft
C. Peaks between Snake & Woodhead 1970 ft

A - C roughly 185 km
B - C roughly 25 km

Easy to sketch and see that it can't be seen.

The top Snaefell to Margery Hill (the higest point in Sheffield) is 125miles! but more than half of the distance is across The Irish Sea so nothing to block the view.

I quoted from the Blackpool Tower, or at least meant to :confused:

When I lived in the tower block which was demolished at Herdings, on the 11th floor, you could see over to Ferrybridge easily, Emley Moor transmitter could be seen on a cloudy day from the bus turnaround, but on really foggy, snowy, rainy, nasty days, looking north from Herdings, towards Sheffield city centre ....... I knew I was in one of two places I call HEAVEN, my beloved Sheffield ...... only Ireland gets close to here ........

how about sheffield council contact lincoln council and arrange for rockets to be fired at specific times and dates,depending on the weather we could then all say we have seen as far as lincoln :hihi:

I've seen Lincoln Cathedral from the old Houndkirk Road track at Ringinglow,it takes some finding but you can see it perched on a hill.

I can see our house from here

I've seen Lincoln Cathedral from the old Houndkirk Road track at Ringinglow,it takes some finding but you can see it perched on a hill.
Same here. Has to be a very clear day though!