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Cranberry 22-09-2005, 16:46 I got a parking ticket for parking my car outside my house. Parking services confused my road, Abbeydale Road South, with Abbeydale Road. Appealed but haven't heard anything.
Has anything similar happened to other motorists in Sheffield?
maggyirene 23-09-2005, 13:48 hi yes my next door nieghbour was parked on her own doorstep about 4 15 on chesterfield rd and they were goin to book her.luckily she saw the guy doin it and told him to look at his watch.he tore the ticket up and walked away.weve all asked the police at different times are we within our rights to tell em off and they said yes u r.
makes you wonder if they got radar or summat .lol
you'd think being able to read the parking restriction signs would be a pre-requisite of that job :rolleyes:
Cranberry 23-09-2005, 14:14 I've appealed but haven't heard anything yet because they are moving offices. The chap who was parked behind me also got a ticket. He appealed and it got turned down on the basis that he was parked in Abbeydale Road. The whole point of his appeal was that he was parked in Abbeydale Road South, behind me.
Make Mistakes - Yes they do. I got a parking fine parked in a Pay & Display car park with a valid ticket displayed.
I wrote to the address on the back of the ticket with a copy of my valid ticket. I got a letter back saying that "On this occasion the fine will be waived". They made it out like they were doing me a favour or something even though they made a mistake.
Keep battling on.
cgksheff 23-09-2005, 14:33 Your original post is not totally clear.
If you were wrongly parked and deserved ticketing but the Parking Attendant wrote the ticket out wrongly by missing off the word 'South', you are unlikely to be succesful on appeal.
If you were correctly parked and did not warrant ticketing, you should have the ticket waived.
Cranberry 23-09-2005, 14:40 Perhaps I should have made it crystal clear. I was parked legally outside my house because there is no parking restriction outside my house at the time of day I received a parking ticket. Parking services were therefore incorrect in giving me a parking ticket. The ticket said Abbeydale Road instead of Abbeydale Road South and I believe there is a parking restriction on Abbeydale Road which applies at the time I received a ticket.
My explanation for why I received a ticket is that the parking attendant in error confused Abbeydale Road South with Abbeydale Road.
So parking services were wrong in giving me the ticket because there was no restriction at the time and wrong again by getting the name of the road wrong. Clear?
lalaland 23-09-2005, 15:22 You think they are bad here, try London.
When I go down there with work (quite a bit recently) I take my car and the second you stop there's a mass of these blue uniformed fools with devices in their hands waiting to ticket your car.
I was in an office block the other week and looked out of the window and noticed they had a ticketer on every street in that area. They were all waving to each other from time to time, but never seemed to leave the road they were on. Better coverage than the Police!:D
fnkysknky 23-09-2005, 17:31 In London they travel about together by mini bus - it's funny to watch them all scurry off looking for their next victim. I was building a play area in a communal garden just off Kings Road a few years ago and I saw 4 of them writing out a ticket for one car - and all because they'd parked with the wheels turned to the left so about 15mm was over the edge of the parking 'box' marked out on the road.
Recently had a parking ticket left on my van - the time it had on it was completely wrong and I had a receipt for a shop miles away showing I was there at that time. Appealed and haven't heard anything back for months.
Yes Happen Everywere These Days Just Not Bothered
Cranberry 26-09-2005, 16:49 Does anyone know if there is a backlog of appeals? Get the impression that there is but when I ring up I am just told that they will get around to it soon. Not very good customer service. I pay council tax therefore I am a customer.
tgigreeny 28-09-2005, 11:07 Originally posted by fnkysknky
In London they travel about together by mini bus - it's funny to watch them all scurry off looking for their next victim. I was building a play area in a communal garden just off Kings Road a few years ago and I saw 4 of them writing out a ticket for one car - and all because they'd parked with the wheels turned to the left so about 15mm was over the edge of the parking 'box' marked out on the road.
Recently had a parking ticket left on my van - the time it had on it was completely wrong and I had a receipt for a shop miles away showing I was there at that time. Appealed and haven't heard anything back for months.
Or Birmingham. I was parked for 10 minutes outside Pebble Mill (a road used only be people working at Pebble Mill) at the end of a row of marked bays. My back tyres were just touching double yellows (though causing no obstruction or danger). I was towed within the 10 minutes with no warning and had to pay £180 to get my car back - plus a taxi ride across the city to get my car.
I have not been back since and pray to God I never will.
Cranberry 29-09-2005, 06:48 I wonder how much time, if any, Parking Services devote to checking people's tax discs to see if they are out of date?If they are, then it probably means they are also driving without insurance and again it is likely that they haven't got an MOT.
Oh sorry I forgot! This would involve some proper legwork and even though it would benefit everyone else who does pay for these things, it's not profit generating - silly me.
Anyone from Parking Services visit this site?
neeeeeeeeeek 29-09-2005, 07:30 I think the council has recently taken over the job and is very keep to rip off as many people as possible. They also seem to be ignoring letters, I guess with the intention of waiting about 3 months until you have forgotten all about it, then sending you an even bigger fine whilst hoping that you have thrown away the proof of recorded delivery so you have no evidence of ever contacting them. It's another bloody council scam.
:mad:
Cranberry 29-09-2005, 07:42 You've just given me a thought. The council as with most other local and national government has probably got some sort of customer service standards to meet. They only sent an acknowledgement to my appeal letter and that was over a month ago.
If I write another letter of complaint and ask it for it to be treated as a separate complaint that might stir them to stop ordering their desk stationery and actually do some work.
Must dash off another complaint. Ah! The satisfaction of doing something worthwhile.
sheffbag 29-09-2005, 08:09 use these numbers to query any parking in sheff
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/index.asp?pgid=1770
lalaland 29-09-2005, 08:19 Originally posted by Cranberry
I wonder how much time, if any, Parking Services devote to checking people's tax discs to see if they are out of date?If they are, then it probably means they are also driving without insurance and again it is likely that they haven't got an MOT.
Oh sorry I forgot! This would involve some proper legwork and even though it would benefit everyone else who does pay for these things, it's not profit generating - silly me.
Anyone from Parking Services visit this site? It's not their job to do so as far as I am aware and while this may be a good addition to their duties, if they don't thave the system or paperwork to follow it up it's probably a non-starter for them.
I believe that what has happened is that parking services is now doing the job formerly done by the police. As such parking offences are no longer criminal acts.
According to the Bill of Rights only courts have the power to impose fines.
Hence we have a monumental grey area as to whether parking fines levied by the parking services people have any legal standing. I understand that there are several appeals pending using this defence.
basshedz2 29-09-2005, 08:41 Originally posted by Cranberry
I wonder how much time, if any, Parking Services devote to checking people's tax discs to see if they are out of date?If they are, then it probably means they are also driving without insurance and again it is likely that they haven't got an MOT.
I think you'll find that no-one bothers to check tax discs much any more - they have all the information on computer, and fines are automatically issued if you haven't declared your car off the road.
According to the adverts anyway. (I watch too much TV!)
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cgksheff 29-09-2005, 08:50 You will find that Tax Discs are still a Police matter and no concern of Parking Services.
They could be asked to report any transgressions to the police however!
Greenback 03-10-2005, 18:21 I was driving home today at about 5.45pm on South Road and heading towards Walkley Road, I saw a Parking Services vehicle pull up on the opposite side of the road.
On a single yellow line, opposite a junction and sticking out from the pavement enough to effectively block the road to oncoming traffic.
The two blokes inside jump out, and one of them heads to a car that's parked straight in front of him, and proceeds to give him a ticket, as I stare on incredulously. I wound down my window and asked him why he was giving out a ticket when the Parking Services vehicle itself was not only also parked illegally, but causing far more of a problem.
"It's a clearway," he helpfully pointed out to me.
"So why are you parked on a clearway then?" I asked, to which he just looked down at the ticket machine.
I wish I'd have had the presence of mind to take a photo on my camera phone.
Originally posted by Hopman
According to the Bill of Rights only courts have the power to impose fines.
We don't live in the United States; We don't have a Bill of Rights.
Greenback, doesn't that mean that you too stopped on a clearway to point out their mistake? Did they ticket you like a game of parking dominoes?
Or did you continue to drive around in circles like a mad dog chasing its tail, making your point through your open window????
Greenback 04-10-2005, 13:03 Originally posted by tingle
Greenback, doesn't that mean that you too stopped on a clearway to point out their mistake? Did they ticket you like a game of parking dominoes?
Or did you continue to drive around in circles like a mad dog chasing its tail, making your point through your open window????
I was in a queue of traffic and just happened to be in right opposite the goons at the time.
But just as I was about to ask them if they were going to give themselves a ticket, the traffic moved forward and I had to drive off. But I made sure to shake my fist in their direction, just like in cartoons.
lalaland 18-10-2005, 15:24 Seems the Leeds lot also make mistakes!
I was helping someone out on Saturday by doing them a favour and being a driver while they delivered stock for sale to the centre of town.
I parked in a bay that was marked "unloading only, maximum 20 minutes".
I was 15 minutes, or just under, and was carrying stuff from the vehicle in to the building. On the third or fourth trip to the vehicle I came out to find that one of their parking attendants had stuck a parking ticket on my car!
I am of course contesting it and have witnesses who worked at the building who can back me up to say I was delivering stock, but it just shows that it doesn't only happen in Sheffield.:rant:
Cranberry 19-10-2005, 13:58 Has anyone won an appeal against a parking charge by Sheffield Parking Services?
If so how did you manage it?
Anyone faced down the Parking Adjudicator?
Skatiechik 19-10-2005, 14:04 Yes,
A hire company failed to pick up a car before 9am in the morning, not picking it up to the afternoon, so they encountered a car parking fine.
They doctored their hire notes to try and make out it was our fault for the parking ticket, and told parking services it was our fine.
Lucky we had still had the original rental note to prove it was no longer on hire when the parking fine was given.
However the hire company refused to accept they had doctored their hire notes to make out it was our responsiblity until we told them the orginal hire agreement had been faxed to parking services ;)
Never heard anything back from it.
Cranberry 19-10-2005, 14:13 Thanks for that but has anyone got an exampple where it was their car and they won an appeal?
Originally posted by Cranberry
I wonder how much time, if any, Parking Services devote to checking people's tax discs to see if they are out of date?
I would hope none - this is the job of the DVLA. Parking Services are there to deal with the idiots who think the law doesn't apply to them and therefore park in stupid and sometimes dangerous places :rant:
Cranberry 19-10-2005, 14:22 Quite agree with you except that in my case I got a charge for parking outside my house because the official confused my road with another one. Parking services are fallible and also make mistakes - some people may say that from time to time these are stupid and idiotic.
Originally posted by Cranberry
I got a parking ticket for parking my car outside my house. Parking services confused my road, Abbeydale Road South, with Abbeydale Road. Appealed but haven't heard anything.
Has anything similar happened to other motorists in Sheffield?
Hi,
yes I once had a parking ticket, and the ticket warden put the wrong date, the date he put on it was on a sunday, and parking restrictions didn't apply. I wrote to the office pointing this out, and recieved a letter back saying I didn't have to pay it.
(it was on a monday I was parked) some you win, some you don't.
Originally posted by Cranberry
Quite agree with you except that in my case I got a charge for parking outside my house because the official confused my road with another one. Parking services are fallible and also make mistakes - some people may say that from time to time these are stupid and idiotic.
Or human...sometimes I make mistakes in my job. It happens - but you have a right for the mistake to be corrected promptly, which seems not to be happening.
lalaland 19-10-2005, 16:47 Originally posted by Skatiechik
Yes,
A hire company failed to pick up a car before 9am in the morning, not picking it up to the afternoon, so they encountered a car parking fine.
They doctored their hire notes to try and make out it was our fault for the parking ticket, and told parking services it was our fine.
Lucky we had still had the original rental note to prove it was no longer on hire when the parking fine was given.
However the hire company refused to accept they had doctored their hire notes to make out it was our responsiblity until we told them the orginal hire agreement had been faxed to parking services ;)
Never heard anything back from it. I would have had them for fraud, stop them doing it again to someone in the future, but well done for sticking to your documents and sorting it out, some people would have just given in and paid the fine!:thumbsup:
louise170419 19-10-2005, 17:13 parking attendants are never in the wrong, that there golden rule, but i have prove them wrong 3 times lol, ive a disabled badge(4 my daughter) and 1 day my daughter was having a hypo so i needed lucozade which i had forgot to take with me, so i placed my badge in the window and took her for some , on our approach back to the car i found a ticket as i wasnt displaying it properly (it was the wrong way round) i appealed and it was wiped clean, then i got two more in the space of a week may i add all by the same attendant, so i appealed saying that i think that person had it in for me and that i felt i was been victimised by the attendant as both of the separate occasion i was displaying my badge and they were both wiped clean too.
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