...saying 'you mean so much to me' blah blah blah and then suddenly vanishing off the face of the planet if you're upset?

:mad:

well thats men for you

Originally posted by indiekidette
...saying 'you mean so much to me' blah blah blah and then suddenly vanishing off the face of the planet if you're upset?
:mad:

cos they can ....

Ah the joy of sweeping statements - surely you actually meant what's wrong with this particular man? The presence of a Y chromosome doesn't make all men identical any more than it's absence makes all women identical...

:blush: sorry sorry sorry!

I did, obviously, mean one man in particular so it should read 'someone please explain what's with this idiot....' etc

Men cant handle upset, they run away and hide till they think its all gone away , leave him alone for a day or two, if he meant what he said he will come back.

have i stumbled in on Trisha?:D

looks like it m8. :)

Men are great and anyone that doesn't think so is a woman and a fool! :thumbsup:

All men are not the same you know!
LOL! :)

Its just some are better at handling situations than others.

Nah - just the end of a beautiful friendship (bluergh) and the start of quest for new man (preferably with the selfish coward gene absent) ;)

Originally posted by evildrneil
Ah the joy of sweeping statements - surely you actually meant what's wrong with this particular man? The presence of a Y chromosome doesn't make all men identical any more than it's absence makes all women identical...


very true - the presence of a willy isn't ALL bad ya know ... !!!!

you mean there are some out there:o good luck trying to find one hun, if you do and he has a brother let me know lol

Originally posted by chattygirl
you mean there are some out there:o good luck trying to find one hun, if you do and he has a brother let me know lol

Absolutely!

cheers then , but i aint holding me breath :P

*offers perfect (and modest) self*!!!!!

There's something to be said for the 'Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars' book. Even if I do have the title wrong? (Who cares, the meaning is there.) :)

They're a different beast to us. Doesn't make them bad, just makes them different..... hard to understand at times, maybe, but not (necessarily) bad.

:thumbsup:

men-pah,i wouldn't trust 'em as far as i could throw 'em:hihi: :hihi:

john.

:loopy: hmm, I'm 16 and I haven't had many serious relationships yet, :rolleyes: guess I have all this to come, lol :D Hope it doesn't take too long for me to understand women :rolleyes:

Being the nice kinda guy that I am, I'm willing to try to restore your faith in men... just make me laugh and feed me something nice, and I'll be happy.

Ahhhh if only it were that simple! How d'ya like your steak?

Originally posted by indiekidette
...saying 'you mean so much to me' blah blah blah and then suddenly vanishing off the face of the planet if you're upset?

:mad:

alien abduction?

Originally posted by Jimbob1989
:loopy: hmm, I'm 16 and I haven't had many serious relationships yet, :rolleyes: guess I have all this to come, lol :D Hope it doesn't take too long for me to understand women :rolleyes:

If you ever understand women, you'll be gods gift. Its impossible :P

I'm all-but ready to give up on em at the mo!

Originally posted by robbie
alien abduction?

Everyone uses that excuse now a days, not original anymore :D

Originally posted by RPG
If you ever understand women, you'll be gods gift. Its impossible :P

I'm all-but ready to give up on em at the mo!

:rolleyes: Well a few kind young ladies have previously called me an angel :blush: Dunno if that makes me gods gift, lol.

JB

nah all men ain't the same you get some real nice men you really do they just take some finding i guess lol or they r usually taken lol

Originally posted by lemonkirdy
nah all men ain't the same you get some real nice men you really do they just take some finding i guess lol or they r usually taken lol

:rolleyes: I'm suffering from the first :) lol

hint to all women.

the really nice ones who will be there for you don't tend to be the dark and dangerous ones that use some random b/s on you in a club.

all men shouldn't be branded the same cos there not alike all us women are not the same you get good and bad people in both sexes you just need to find a good one

Originally posted by robbie
hint to all women.

the really nice ones who will be there for you don't tend to be the dark and dangerous ones that use some random b/s on you in a club.

Exactly!

If you're tired of picking up dogs, then stop looking in kennels :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Abdul
Exactly!

If you're tired of picking up dogs, then stop looking in kennels :thumbsup:

Interesting way of putting it, lol.

Originally posted by Abdul
Exactly!

If you're tired of picking up dogs, then stop looking in kennels :thumbsup:

cool, I'll remember that

Originally posted by indiekidette
Ahhhh if only it were that simple! How d'ya like your steak?

I like my steak the same as I like my women: well done. Hang on, that doesn't sound quite right...:confused:

Originally posted by Old_Bloke
I like my steak the same as I like my women: well done. Hang on, that doesn't sound quite right...:confused:

Good job you didnt say "Rare and bloody" :lol:

Originally posted by RPG
Good job you didnt say "Rare and bloody" :lol:

Can you have steak "dirty"?? :heyhey:

Originally posted by Old_Bloke
Can you have steak "dirty"?? :heyhey:

i'm sure you could if you asked nicely
But the best steak has to be blue.........barely seen any heat in its life and ready for anything.

the last few posters seem to have hi-jacked the OP's thread asking why men are the way they are ...to make questionable remarks comparing women to steak and about the availability of women of a type you might like ...

And then you wonder why the title was "Someone please explain what's with men ...."

:rolleyes:

It seems to me that although many females seeking a mate may say that they are looking for a 'nice' man, to many of them, if they were to be honest with themselves, 'nice' all too often equates to 'wimp'.

'Nice' I would describe as being faithful, honest, hard-working, kind, considerate, sensitive, even-tempered, gentle, loving, family-orientated, generous, etc., etc. (All virtues that I have, of course!):rolleyes:

Look at the romantic novels that are designed to appeal virtually exclusively to women, the heroes of these novels, the ones that many readers fantasize over, are not 'nice' men at all.

The type portrayed as the romantic, lustworthy male is usually fiercely independant and has a vaguely callous attitude towards women. He's generally posessed of an aggressive, fiery personality, is hard to tame and supremely attractive in looks... Mere 'nice' men don't get a look-in!

And don't forget, the writers and publishers know what type of man it is that women like to imagine themselves partnering, this garbage, written to a formula, continues to sell to women in its' millions.

Being 'nice' is more often than not, seen by many females as a weakness, not a virtue... Not that I'm complaining!;)

We do exist - but girls don't like to notice decent fella's - always seem to chase the bankers

Originally posted by Pseudonym
'Nice' I would describe as being faithful, honest, hard-working, kind, considerate, sensitive, even-tempered, gentle, loving, family-orientated, generous, etc., etc.

Then why can't the ones of us that fit that criteria find a "nice" girl?? God i sound like a loser now!! Im honest (although no-one belives what i do for a living whenever I tell them), VERY hard working, and all the rest.....but the right girl just evades me every time!!
In my past experience, the one I loved the most resented me because i concentrated on gettin my career off the ground and training BLOODY hard for it!! And it ment me living closer to her (London) once I had passed, but i was still a b*****d and inconsiderate for it??! Us "nice" ones just cant seem to win sometimes!!?!!

Well, Cheet & Ollie, perhaps you're beginning to realise that being 'nice' seldom pays. In my experience, many, many women are attracted more to the 'dangerous' types, though a lot of females that fit into this category will vehemently deny it.

The old adage "Treat a tramp like a lady... and a lady like a tramp" may have a ring of truth to it.

If nothing else, the female take on all this should be interesting!

BTW Ollie... What DO you do for a living? :D

Originally posted by chris1975
i'm sure you could if you asked nicely
But the best steak has to be blue.........barely seen any heat in its life and ready for anything.

I like my women the way I like my steaks, blue?

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
I like my women the way I like my steaks, blue?
Shades of necrophilia perhaps? :gag:

You could have one of these for every occasion!!!

I like my women like I like my chances of catching diseases - the slimmer the better

I like my women like I like my kitchen knives - keen

I like my women like i like my coffee - hot and dark

I like my women like I like my socks - in pairs

I like my women like I like my luggage - easy to pick up

Any more?

You'll have to excuse my ramblings cos I've been out for a very long liquid lunch to celebrate my 30th birthday, but I think loads of guys could say the same thing about women.

I've had two really serious relationships in my life. The first ended when my fiancee cheated on me, the second ended when my girlfriend turned round one night and said that she needs some time on her own to figure out who she is and what she wants out of life.

Will I ever understand women? I doubt it...

the biggest problem with men is that the women don't know what we they want.

typical singles ad.
tall, dark,handsome,athletic,sense of humour,educated ,must like kids etc etc even mentions wealth & assets occasionally.

if everyone wants the same why should they stick with the same woman - supply & demand.

now if women were honest and said they wanted someone they could boss around whilst flirting,or someone who would say "no that looks fine" all the time.they might get the right bloke.

OK, I'll give u a female take on this.

Women do like a bit of naughtiness in their men, well I definately do. When I say naughtiness, I mean mischief and fun. BUT and there is a BUT - they, well I, also like someone who I can trust, who is honest and caring and a not shy to tell me how they are feeling.

Finding the right balance of fun and naughtiness, romance, trust and honesty is really hard, but when u find it, its fantastic.

That's interesting to hear, BB... Thanks for your honesty...

Now we need to hear from more women on their point of view about this... Perhaps we might learn something! ;)

I think it all to do with men and woman with no back bone.Can not tell the truth to someone then have to beat arround the bush to say things so they dont look like the bad one.

I met some pritty sorry men in my life( and i did say met and not that i talk to on the net) that have no back bone at all to say what on they mind so they have to lie. not met no woman tho but i know they some woman out there that are the same.

I think an issue for me is that a lot of women say they o for the nice guy. shy, sensiotive, caring, hionest, loving etc etc.

but they only look for that within the cocky self-confident bloke they pull

so in order to attract women you have to pretend to be something you are not to get their attention then be yourself once you have got it

Originally posted by robbie
I think an issue for me is that a lot of women say they o for the nice guy. shy, sensiotive, caring, hionest, loving etc etc.


The thing is though, that a lot of those men seem to be quite reluctant to 'chat women up'. Many women do like the sensitive, caring. loving, etc type, but very often it's the loudmouth, posey, overly-self-confident types who actually talk to women and ask them out.

At least the 'wide-boy' type is letting the women know he finds her attractive. At least he's made some sort of effort. The woman very possibly would be much more interested in the quiet lad who's not approached her, but if he makes no attempt to talk to her, then she's not going to think he's interested. Unless she's confident enough to chat him up herself, or likes him so much she's prepared to take on the risk of rejection, then a potential relationship won't even get off the ground.

It seems to me that if you like the look of someone and feel a 'pull' towards them, then for goodness' sake take a chance and just talk to them. Do yourself and them a favour! You never know, they could be fancying you back - and someone has to make the first move, after all! I don't really think it matters which one of you it is.

If you don't ask, you don't get!!

StarSparkle :)

I was going to reply to this but saw StarSparkles post and it said everything I was going to say. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by StarSparkle
The thing is though, that a lot of those men seem to be quite reluctant to 'chat women up'. Many women do like the sensitive, caring. loving, etc type, but very often it's the loudmouth, posey, overly-self-confident types who actually talk to women and ask them out.

At least the 'wide-boy' type is letting the women know he finds her attractive. At least he's made some sort of effort. The woman very possibly would be much more interested in the quiet lad who's not approached her, but if he makes no attempt to talk to her, then she's not going to think he's interested. Unless she's confident enough to chat him up herself, or likes him so much she's prepared to take on the risk of rejection, then a potential relationship won't even get off the ground.

It seems to me that if you like the look of someone and feel a 'pull' towards them, then for goodness' sake take a chance and just talk to them. Do yourself and them a favour! You never know, they could be fancying you back - and someone has to make the first move, after all! I don't really think it matters which one of you it is.

If you don't ask, you don't get!!

StarSparkle :)

you are spot on there. Unfortunately doing it isn't always that easy. Especially when the group involve will probably be shy and lack self-confidence.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
The thing is though, that a lot of those men seem to be quite reluctant to 'chat women up'. Many women do like the sensitive, caring. loving, etc type, but very often it's the loudmouth, posey, overly-self-confident types who actually talk to women and ask them out.

It seems to me that if you like the look of someone and feel a 'pull' towards them, then for goodness' sake take a chance and just talk to them. Do yourself and them a favour! You never know, they could be fancying you back - and someone has to make the first move, after all! I don't really think it matters which one of you it is.

If you don't ask, you don't get!!

StarSparkle :)

your right with most of that....i dont think ive ever `chatted up' a girl in my life......(mr negative says 'why ask the question when you're sure of the answer)...and i dont go to clubs and such so i doubt i'll be meeting many nice girls anytime soon.

id trade in a few of my good qualities for half the confidence of one of these `lads' (no matter how much i hate them, have to admire there sheer fearless approach)

p.s. do you take ur own advice starsparkle?

Originally posted by robbie
you are spot on there. Unfortunately doing it isn't always that easy. Especially when the group involve will probably be shy and lack self-confidence.

I appreciate that totally, Robbie. Up until a year or so ago, I was really shy myself and had very little self-confidence, so I know exactly how nerve-wracking/terrifying it can be to talk to someone you've never met before. Believe me, I know!!

But if you want something enough, you've got to find the get-up-and-go to give it a try. It won't be easy, but seriously, when was anything worth having Easy to get? I think people only really appreciate something and value it if they've had to make an effort to get it/achieve it. If something's worthwhile, it's worth making the effort for, yeah?

If you're shy, it's not easy making the first move to contact someone - but look at the potential pay-off! A relationship with someone you're really keen on! Isn't that worth a bit of a risk?

And before you say anything about the woman having an easier time of it, as shy as I was, I did manage to chat up a bloke once or twice! You have to find the guts to go for what you want :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Originally posted by MTheo
p.s. do you take ur own advice starsparkle?

I certainly try to, MTheo! :)

As mentioned above, I have been known to chat up the occasional bloke in my time - so there! ;)

StarSparkle

Originally posted by StarSparkle
As mentioned above, I have been known to chat up the occasional bloke in my time - so there! ;)

aye..ive heard the stories :heyhey: lol

well done you! :thumbsup: ....do you give lessons? hehe


NOT for chattin up blokes thou!...:suspect:

Originally posted by MTheo
aye..ive heard the stories :heyhey: lol

well done you! :thumbsup: ....do you give lessons? hehe


NOT for chattin up blokes thou!...:suspect:


You are a cheeky so-and-so! :rant:

Utterly incorrigible! :P

I'll consider forgiving you - but only cos you're you! :)

Originally posted by StarSparkle
You are a cheeky so-and-so! :rant:

Utterly incorrigible! :P

I'll consider forgiving you - but only cos you're you! :)

;) stop wrapping me round your finger with your new temptress ways! :rolleyes:

hehe

Originally posted by Jimbob1989
:loopy: hmm, I'm 16 and I haven't had many serious relationships yet, :rolleyes: guess I have all this to come, lol :D Hope it doesn't take too long for me to understand women :rolleyes:

Oh you poor, poor misguided fool. It's the kids I really feel sorry for, so young, so keen, yet so naive. :D

I personally find these lyrics very very meaningfull and kinda sums up what has been said before....god i love this song!.


Some guys have all the luck
Some guys have all the pain
Some guys get all the breaks
Some guys do nothing but complain

Alone in a crowd on a bus after work
And I’m dreaming
The guy next to me has a girl in his arms
My arms are empty
How does it feel when the girl next to you
Says she loves you
It seem so unfair when there’s love everywhere
But there’s none for me

(chorus)

Someone to take on a walk by the lake
Lord let it be me
Someone who’s shy
Someone who’ll cry at sad movies
I know I would die if I ever found out
She was fooling me
You’re just a dream and as real as it seems
I ain’t that lucky

(chorus)

All of my friends have a ring on their finger
They have someone
Someone to care for them it ain’t fair
I got no one
The car overheated
I called up and pleaded
There’s help on the way
I called you collect you didn’t accept
You had nothing to say

(chorus)

But if you were here with me
I’d feel so happy I could cry
You are so dear to me
I just can’t let you say goodbye

Originally posted by miniminch
Men are great and anyone that doesn't think so is a woman and a fool! :thumbsup:

but surely thats like saying rugby is great and anyone who doesnt think so is an idiot?

Originally posted by FilthFan
but surely thats like saying rugby is great and anyone who doesnt think so is an idiot? great point filthfan, that is the first remotely intelligent thing you have said in a while but just add an extra insult for that pimpernel effect. 'and anyone who doesn't think so is and idiot and a blighter!' There you go, that's how to insult people and anyone who doesn't think so is a maggot and an under-achiever

I agree with what's already been said about the type of men that women like. The majority of women (IMO) don't like a man to be the sort of shy, sensitive type, but like a man to be tough and independant, perhaps even slightly mysterious. However, men like this are more likely to cheat/mess you around. Nice guys finish last. Cliche, but very true.

It's interesting how there's not many women who have jumped to the defence of men. It's probably because women who have found the right man aren't as vocal.

Originally posted by miniminch
great point filthfan, that is the first remotely intelligent thing you have said in a while but just add an extra insult for that pimpernel effect. 'and anyone who doesn't think so is and idiot and a blighter!' There you go, that's how to insult people and anyone who doesn't think so is a maggot and an under-achiever

how about everyone is an idiot no matter what....then were covering the bases

This has been a very interesting read but, and this is something I've seen time after time after time.
Men will often just say things that keep the girl's happy and so phrases like 'I love you' or 'You're really special' become just words with no real meaning or feeling involved. This isn't helped by the fact that a lot of girls get cross with their man if they don't hear him ssaying these sort of things. Actions speak louder than words but why do so many girls seem to fall for just the words?