BTW, how did the New Year's Eve party go?
I guess the place was packed, like a busier version of a typical weekend, and I'm sorry I was away and missed the fun!

I went on NYE, I was in Affinity early on, and that was jam packed, people were buying wrist bands for Fuel, and I had this dreaded feeling that Dempseys would be empty and everyone gone to Fuel.

I had already bought my Demps ticket and got that a couple of days before and they only sold 50 tickets :o:o, I even convinced these 3 women it would be packed, knowing I was the 50th to buy a ticket, and they said ok, and if it was crap they would hunt me down, eek.

Anyway got there around 11ish and gawd, it was ram packed, no idea where they all came from, a good many were not in Affinity,.

Had a brill night, from what I can remember, and I dont normally stay to about 3ish, so shows how good it was.

They had karaoke on downstairs until the early hours of the morning.

To end it all the 3 women were there and they hugged me and said they had a fab night and glad they came. bless them ;)

Awwww thats nice Spider Pete Im sorry I missed it all over Xmas and New Year .... just like Tyranna

Dempseys is not closing or going to be closed. Its a load of rubbish set off by that rag of a tablod. Carina does not go to XS so she can't have said that. I'm afraid for those of you who hate it, its still going strong. There will be a retraction in the Star tommorow (12/01/08).

Phew thats a relief !! Dempseys is a Sheffield institution at this stage not just on the gay scene but the general scene since its used a lot in the daytime by straights ....

If they are closing it down I bagsy first offer to buy that manhatten skyline so iconic of Dempseys :-)

It would be nice to get full confirmation over what exactly is the situation over redevelopment/demolition plans for the bottom of the Moor; Is Dempseys' premises to be retained permanently, or to be redeveloped only sometime around 2012? Whether it eventually does have to move to a new site, or if it stays put, it would be worth investing a bit more in refurbishment, to create perhaps Sheffield's answer to the Nightingale in Birmingham. Those flat-screens are a great start, let's see more!!!

Just an update about things going on at Dempseys:
Remember they have on several nights of the week the 'meal nad a drink deal' for £5 inclusive from early evening until 9pm.

I also hear that on one night (I think it is Tuesday or Thursday) Dempseys do a 'Games night' with various games, including: BINGO!

I'd love to eventually see a regular Bingo night at one of the Gay venues in Sheffield like ones I've seen at some venues in Dublin, London or Manchester, with some great drag cabaret in the interval.

I'd love to eventually see a regular Bingo night at one of the Gay venues in Sheffield like ones I've seen at some venues in Dublin, London or Manchester, with some great drag cabaret in the interval.You know next time someone dies, a bit of drag at the funeral would be just the thing.

Or in court maybe, when the jury goes out to deliberate a drag caberet would lighten the atmosphere tremendously.

Now that News at Ten is back instead of the 'and finally' bit at the end they've wasted an opportunity, some drag would have been perfect to provide a bit of levity

You know next time someone dies, a bit of drag at the funeral would be just the thing.

Or in court maybe, when the jury goes out to deliberate a drag caberet would lighten the atmosphere tremendously.

Now that News at Ten is back instead of the 'and finally' bit at the end they've wasted an opportunity, some drag would have been perfect to provide a bit of levity

It's not just me that's noticed there is a serious lack of drag at the moment then?

It's not just me that's noticed there is a serious lack of drag at the moment then?Theres not enough. I've been saying it for years. its never been the same since Jon Pleased Wimmin quit Djing!

Disco, I see an opportunity for you. What do you look like in a dress?

Disco, I see an opportunity for you. What do you look like in a dress?Like Dawn Frenches less attractive sister

Disco, I see an opportunity for you. What do you look like in a dress?

Better than certain other drag acts I would imagine. ;)

Better than certain other drag acts I would imagine. ;)You little flirt!

If they are closing it down I bagsy first offer to buy that manhatten skyline so iconic of Dempseys :-)

Only if I can have the deep fat fryer, the source of the aroma so iconic of Dempseys.

well this was on their website

Colin and Kieron would like to express thanks to all of you who sent emails expressing relief that Dempsey's is staying put. Last month we reported that we had signed a brand new 15 year lease on our existing premises. Despite this the message does not appear to have filtered through other websites and still the gossips talk about Dempsey's closing. No, no, no! You read it here first and there are going to be many, many more riotous nights over the coming years

Well thats good news.

well this was on their website

Colin and Kieron would like to express thanks to all of you who sent emails expressing relief that Dempsey's is staying put. Last month we reported that we had signed a brand new 15 year lease on our existing premises. Despite this the message does not appear to have filtered through other websites and still the gossips talk about Dempsey's closing. No, no, no! You read it here first and there are going to be many, many more riotous nights over the coming years

Well thats good news.


Well thats the best news I have heard all winter Spider Pete - I shall continue to support Dempseys as a loyal customer and I'm sure they will bring lots of other loyal customers along with them since it certainly has a unique atmosphere amongst bars (str8 or gay) in Sheffield.

Since we are now a slightly aging cotery of loyal followers I do hope thye cater for our special needs in the next 15 years.

I suggest as a start introducing cheap OAP meals on Sundays if they havent already.

We should also have a special golden years membership card that entitles us to a free bingo card on tuesdays.

They should also fit a stanner stair lift (in addition to the steps) to their dancing cage on the upstairs dance floor to enable us to still physically get up there and shake our aging bootys - they may have to widen the whole contraption also to accommodate zimmer frames since I would not want to be stabbing younger revellers in the foot with it as I freak out and shake my booty to some thumping techno and deep house - or indeed Amy Winehouse - may she be having many a hit 15 years from now if she keeps on the straight and narrow ... :-)

well this was on their website

Colin and Kieron would like to express thanks to all of you who sent emails expressing relief that Dempsey's is staying put. Last month we reported that we had signed a brand new 15 year lease on our existing premises. Despite this the message does not appear to have filtered through other websites and still the gossips talk about Dempsey's closing. No, no, no! You read it here first and there are going to be many, many more riotous nights over the coming years

Well thats good news.

Looks like I have somewhere to go for a good while yet then!

May I also express my congratulations to Colin and Keiron for assuring the future of Dempseys for another 15 years.

Are there any plans for a drastic refurb? Redesigned toilets downstairs, a smokers' balcony on the first floor (Just like Nightingale, Birmingham), maybe a top floor chill-out lounge, and perhaps even a lift for the disabled? The costs of any major refurb would be huge, but it would be a worthwhile investment for the next 15 years, and serious money has already been sunk into features such as the new TV screens.

Long Live Dempsey's, Sheffield's LOCAL LGBT Cabaret Venue!

Oh not forgetting, was handed a flyer for a forth-coming event (stoopid scanner isnt working at the moment)

Monday 25th Feb

award Winning Vocalist : Gary Phillips

The sweet of the Sheff gay Seen Slap & Tickle

Plus special guest performers TBA (probably be bar staff in drag)


There is no price on the flyer so not sure if there is a slightly more change or same door prices, shall find out when I am next down.

Oh not forgetting, was handed a flyer for a forth-coming event (stoopid scanner isnt working at the moment)

Monday 25th Feb

award Winning Vocalist : Gary Phillips

The sweet of the Sheff gay Seen Slap & Tickle

Plus special guest performers TBA (probably be bar staff in drag)


There is no price on the flyer so not sure if there is a slightly more change or same door prices, shall find out when I am next down.


Didn't get to see this, as I was on the ferry back from a weekend at Alternative Miss Cork in Ireland, but how did the show go?

On 10th March, there is a Clairvoyant doing readings; from what I saw on the poster, entry to the session is £5.

Ooooh I would be interested in the clairvoyant readings Tyranna so long as they didnt tell me anything bad ..... I'm hoping that my aunty Mary passed over in ireland can offer me advice on which drag acts to b :)ook for the summer season that will be most popular ...

Went out on Friday night to Dempsey's and I had a good night. It was really busy and the atmosphere seemed ok. I know a lot of people have negative things to say about Dempsey's but most of the times when I go there I have a ok time. (although I have had some rubbish night there lol).

As we all know now that Dempseys is staying put for some years yet, I am really wishing that Colin will embark on some kind of phased refurbishment which will truly bring the club into the 21st Century, like a kind of 'Mini Nightingale'! We'll just have to wait and see on this, though, in the meantime, plenty's going on down at 'D's!

I am really wishing that Colin will embark on some kind of phased refurbishment which will truly bring the club into the 21st Century, like a kind of 'Mini Nightingale'!

You keep harping on about it but Nightingales is not all that. If they were to refurbish the place they would be better of doing something unique rather than just copying another bar.

You keep harping on about it but Nightingales is not all that. If they were to refurbish the place they would be better of doing something unique rather than just copying another bar.

True, point taken, but I remember the first time I visited Nightingales, about 4 years ago, now, I had never, not even in London, seen anything quite as sophisticated or in a class of its own in terms of gay clubs; even the famous Heaven at Charing Cross looked dingy in comparison, being located in railway arches....

Plenty more clubs have followed the Nightingale model, and i was just using it as an example of very good design!

even the famous Heaven at Charing Cross looked dingy in comparison, being located in railway arches....


I like Heaven, the building (if you can call it that) has character, it's not just a concrete box with a standard layout. It might be a bit dingy but thats part of the appeal.

True, point taken, but I remember the first time I visited Nightingales, about 4 years ago, now, I had never, not even in London, seen anything quite as sophisticated or in a class of its own in terms of gay clubs; even the famous Heaven at Charing Cross looked dingy in comparison, being located in railway arches....

Plenty more clubs have followed the Nightingale model, and i was just using it as an example of very good design!

shes off again................promoting other places, suppose you will be doing an act there soon too. TOPIC TOPIC TOPIC

You keep harping on about it but Nightingales is not all that. If they were to refurbish the place they would be better of doing something unique rather than just copying another bar.

Have to agree here, last thing we want is for someone to walk in and say "gawd this place looks like Nightingales", and then walk out.

xes is a dug filled flea bit, the sooner people stop going and it shuts the better.

xes is a dug filled flea bit, the sooner people stop going and it shuts the better.

That was totally off topic, and in my opinion, I think Xes is a very well maintained, clean venue, with some recent improvements.

Pete, I don't think anyone would compare Dempsey's to Nightingale, as it is a LOT smaller, even if the much rumored plan a few years back to open a third floor had come to pass.

All I have been saying is that the Gale offers features unequalled in most clubs, such as a seperate restaurant and a piano-bar!

If Dempseys does open a third floor, they could offer an amazing variety of entertainment experiences, but I think the 'third floor' might be off the agenda if major work is needed such as better access, especially if a lift will be needed, re. disabled access regulations.....:love:

shes off again................promoting other places, suppose you will be doing an act there soon too. TOPIC TOPIC TOPIC

OFF TOPIC ! OFF TOPIC !

Tyranna is a true artist (like a lot of other gay people) and as such she has a right to promote herself - her presence and performances really light up the Sheffield gay scene and it would be a lot duller without her ..

Tyranna is a true artist (like a lot of other gay people) and as such she has a right to promote herself - her presence and performances really light up the Sheffield gay scene and it would be a lot duller without her ..

Mods, check for multiple accounts from the same IP

Or multiple personalities within the same head?

OFF TOPIC ! OFF TOPIC !

Tyranna is a true artist (like a lot of other gay people) and as such she has a right to promote herself - her presence and performances really light up the Sheffield gay scene and it would be a lot duller without her ..

i would hardly say that miming to songs that you dont know the words to is the sign of a true artist...........at least know the words.........and if she wants to self promote start a new thread then she can have all the self promotion she wants...i'm sorry but thats jusyt the most stupid statement i have read on here!

That was totally off topic, and in my opinion, I think Xes is a very well maintained, clean venue, with some recent improvements.

Pete, I don't think anyone would compare Dempsey's to Nightingale, as it is a LOT smaller, even if the much rumored plan a few years back to open a third floor had come to pass.

All I have been saying is that the Gale offers features unequalled in most clubs, such as a seperate restaurant and a piano-bar!

If Dempseys does open a third floor, they could offer an amazing variety of entertainment experiences, but I think the 'third floor' might be off the agenda if major work is needed such as better access, especially if a lift will be needed, re. disabled access regulations.....:love:

and maybe just maybe you could offer you servies in this range on new entertainment they could offer?

OFF TOPIC ! OFF TOPIC !

Tyranna is a true artist (like a lot of other gay people) and as such she has a right to promote herself - her presence and performances really light up the Sheffield gay scene and it would be a lot duller without her ..

Dear me, you are seriously loosing the plot here, as mentioned before he should promote herself on his own thread, and NOT on EVERY gay thread on this Forum, I am sure we are all sick of reading the same stuff over and over again.

Unfortunately the thread of "Tyranna`s Self promotion Thread" (maybe you should start one) wont welcome any negative comments as he hates that, but as a performer you are subject to good and bad comments, so it wont really be a true reflection of how people feel as I am sure all negative comments will be reported to the MOD.

Posted by Nick2
Mods, check for multiple accounts from the same IP

They are 2 completely different people, as I have met both.


I see the self promoting posts have again thrown another gay thread of topic, **sigh**

Dear me, you are seriously loosing the plot here, as mentioned before he should promote herself on his own thread, and NOT on EVERY gay thread on this Forum, I am sure we are all sick of reading the same stuff over and over again.

Unfortunately the thread of "Tyranna`s Self promotion Thread" (maybe you should start one) wont welcome any negative comments as he hates that, but as a performer you are subject to good and bad comments, so it wont really be a true reflection of how people feel as I am sure all negative comments will be reported to the MOD.






They are 2 completely different people, as I have met both.


I see the self promoting posts have again thrown another gay thread of topic, **sigh**



WHO'SE TOTALLY OF TOPIC NOW, EH?????????

It was a great night at Dempsey's last night, with the 'Pride Idol'.

Had a whale of a time, and we had a great audience!:love:

WHO'SE TOTALLY OF TOPIC NOW, EH?????????

It was a great night at Dempsey's last night, with the 'Pride Idol'.

Had a whale of a time, and we had a great audience!:love:

Who won then??

Mod note:

Guys guys guys - for once and for all - back on topic!

It's not rocket science.

Any more crap and this thread goes in the bin.

Capiche?

Just to remind you all: on Monday night there's a clairvoyant doing readings downstairs at Dempsey's; should be interesting to see how this goes down.
Admission is £5 a ticket, which presumably includes a personal reading!

How's things been going with the Clairvoyant night?

I'm just on my way down there, now, from the Forum Bar!

I went down there, but found you had to be there before 7.30, apparently it was a group reading for whoever turned up by then, as an audience, so I had to miss it and sit downstairs eating some chips and cheese!
Apparently it was very good, and the clairvoyant will be doing a session again sometime in the next few months!

Was it Clinton Baptiste?

Ooooh I will try and make the next one Tyranna - Im sorry I missed it and the chance to catch up with my dearly departed Aunty Mary again to tell me what she thinks of my new irish club ....

PS Back on topic - that picture in the gallery on Shout newspapers web site of Dempeys - how old was that - colin and a few others look like spring chickens in it !

PS Back on topic - that picture in the gallery on Shout newspapers web site of Dempeys - how old was that - colin and a few others look like spring chickens in it !


Haven't seen that pic yet, but must keep an eye out for it;
Went to Dempseys late last night after going to a fashion-related photoshoot; I almost lost my rag at the end of the night when I couldn't find my thermal T-shirt, which I thought i'd dropped on the floor, but I finally found it among the rest of my things after searching for the third time! Sorry, Colin, for being so upset!

BTW, I notice that they have some new games on some nights of the week, as far as I recall Tuesdays and Thursdays: there is now regular Bingo and 'Play Your Cards Right'.

Also, very importantly, the POOL TABLE has now been refurbished and its green baize looks pristine again, so it is well worth a play!!!

I'm so glad you got your stuff back Tyranna - I think Dempeys is a safe place even if you lose your stuff and you can eventully collect it again from behind the bar the next day ... many is the time I have thought I lost my jacket there only to retreive it safe and sound the next day from behind the bar - also I have in the past left art-related stuff behind the bar for other friends to pick up or vice versa and we have always gotten our stuff so I would say Dempseys is one of the friendliest honest places around - also its the only bar I feel relatively safe leaving my drink on the bar and going to the gents - most times someone will look after it for me anyway ... so are you dragging it up anywhere for St Patricks day dear? My club back in Ireland is very busy on Sunday night with no less than 3 drag artists booked !!! It wont be the same without you and your green Amy Winehouse wig ;-) lots of love - Carby

If anyone's in there tonight I'll see you there!

KTHFB is it true that you look like mimi mguire from shameless

KTHFB will be the one gobbin and nickin yer fags she has massive babylons too if you see her say "hi mimi" we love her

It's a blooming good job I love you Glynnis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If anyone's in there tonight I'll see you there!

I would say there is a probable chance I will be a bit tipsy ........... on a % figure ............... about 97% there. :)

I would say there is a probable chance I will be a bit tipsy ........... on a % figure ............... about 97% there. :)

:hihi::hihi: I shall more than likely see you there then! Though by the time I get there there may be two of you...... :D

:hihi::hihi: I shall more than likely see you there then! Though by the time I get there there may be two of you...... :D

How did you know there will be 2 of us :o:o:suspect:, scary

I am meeting her royal highness of the gay scene later on.

Or do you mean you will be a bit tipsy and will see 2 of me, although do you know what I look like :suspect:

Is it a good place to meet girls?

Is it a good place to meet girls?

Oh yes, and you never know Slimsid, you might meet a nice man. :hihi::hihi:

That just about sums-up Dempseys at present - some sad bloke wanting to know if he could meet a nice girl.

Rumour has it that here were a few gay lads in there one saturday night recently... go figure!

Poor Dempseys - when will they ever get it right...

Imagine - when the drunken girls turn-up at the door, they were told to clear off because (*gasp*) it's a gay club.

Or imagine the drugged-up straight lads being told to do likewise instead of being allowed in because they'll pay and buy a few drinks. Course they'll pay - everywhere else is shut so they'll slum-it with the poofs.

Or imagine that the next time some straight lad is in the loo telling everyone how he "hasn't got a problem with gay people" - instead of the sad queens saying "ooh that's great" they said "well guess what, we've got a problem with you, it's a gay club so sod off"...

Imagine too that when the cage on the dance floor is full of straight girls again, or some straight couple snogging, the staff told 'em to kindly go away and save it for a place where the punters might appreciate it.

Maybe imagine too a dance floor which didn't clear every ten minutes when the slightly mental DJ's put-on some ridiculous ragga beat, some high nrg that is better suited to Ibiza, or that God-awful remix of "Nine til Five" - again. Just think - they could actually play pop music all night instead of waiting until everyone's loving it and then putting a load of garbage on. Wonder why they don't understand that pop music is called pop music because it's er... popular?

Oh well, I fear it'll never happen. Come Saturday night it'll be full of the same saddos, the same straight people who need to get a life, and the same bizarre mix of music which changes by the minute.

Poor Dempseys - when will they ever get it right...

Imagine - when the drunken girls turn-up at the door, they were told to clear off because (*gasp*) it's a gay club.

Or imagine the drugged-up straight lads being told to do likewise instead of being allowed in because they'll pay and buy a few drinks. Course they'll pay - everywhere else is shut so they'll slum-it with the poofs.

Or imagine that the next time some straight lad is in the loo telling everyone how he "hasn't got a problem with gay people" - instead of the sad queens saying "ooh that's great" they said "well guess what, we've got a problem with you, it's a gay club so sod off"...

Imagine too that when the cage on the dance floor is full of straight girls again, or some straight couple snogging, the staff told 'em to kindly go away and save it for a place where the punters might appreciate it.

Maybe imagine too a dance floor which didn't clear every ten minutes when the slightly mental DJ's put-on some ridiculous ragga beat, some high nrg that is better suited to Ibiza, or that God-awful remix of "Nine til Five" - again. Just think - they could actually play pop music all night instead of waiting until everyone's loving it and then putting a load of garbage on. Wonder why they don't understand that pop music is called pop music because it's er... popular?

Oh well, I fear it'll never happen. Come Saturday night it'll be full of the same saddos, the same straight people who need to get a life, and the same bizarre mix of music which changes by the minute.So, by your definition, I shouldnt go into dempseys because im straight.......and apparently im a saddo and should get a life.

Im sure Colin & Ian may just disagree with that - I have been a member there for years.

In fact, I worked there doing my BII management course long before it turned into a gay bar.

How would you like it if you were told that you couldnt go into a bar because you were gay ?

I will tell you - you would be screaming discrimination. !

You are the one who should get a life.

Well, you said it...

Don't know why you want to go to Dempseys and don't really care to be honest.

I agree that Colin and Ian might well think you should be there though - that's one of the main problems with Dempseys - they seem to think it's reasoanble to have a gay club full of straight people and they can't understand why anyone would think this is absurd.

How would I like being told I couldn't go into a straight bar because I'm gay? Well I'd assume it was just another example of discrimination as you say, and get over it - and wonder why I'd want to go in there in the first place. Suggesting Dempsey's customers should be gay? Outrageous! Of course it's discrimination - that's the whole point.

I'm just telling it from a gay person's point of view - and I mean the point of view that loads of people share, but don't bother to say it. I don't mean the tedious bleatings of the "let's all live together in harmony" people - we hear that rubbish too many times as it is - it's just a modern-day version of being in the closet ("I'm out and proud, all my gay freinds accept me and I can be who I want to be - providing its in the right place where I don't think I'm gonna get punched, and if I don't look too effeminate - yuk!). Sorry if you think it sounds like discrimination. It is, and I think it's time we stopped apologising for it. It's a bit like starting an amateur football club and having cricketers join it. The whole concept just doesn't make sense, unless you're the one taking the door profits.

Well for a start, the reason I started to go to dempseys is because my partner at the time was bisexual.

Over the years, I have gotten to know the staff and a fair few of the customers quite well (and yes, I do mean the gay ones)

In fact thats how I found out that one of my friends was gay !

I dont think a "gay only" bar/club is a bad thing, but its bad when people who are gay feel the need to have a venue such as this just so they dont think they are going to get punched etc.

Dempseys is a great pub and club and the sign of a truly great gay pub or club is one that allows straights in - has no problem with it - and they all get along togther no hassle or trouble etc ... what a really silly post by Chox who I suspect would not be happy unkess they were partying in an exclusive gay club in some sad gay ghetto street in middle of nowhere ..

How are you Spider dear - did enjoy it last night and managed not to get too tipsy this time I think !!!

Although I couldne get into the cage cos it was full of dancing straight girls oh well maybe for the better - its a bit unbecoming for a 65 year old to be in it with their walking stick I suppose !!!

Ended up going to Xes with a friend where I met the utterly fabulous Tyranna there ! It was greta musthave been Las Femmes night I think ....

Dempseys is a great pub and club and the sign of a truly great gay pub or club is one that allows straights in - has no problem with it - and they all get along togther no hassle or trouble etc ... .


Well if that's what you seriously believe, it says a lot about some people's mentailty and Dempsey's attitude. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who actually has a good word for Dempseys aside from yourself and presumably a few others who will doubtless appear on here to praise its virtues.

Unfortunately (and you must know this to be true) if you talk to any gay people in Sheffield, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't say "I wouldn't be seen dead in that dump" or "well it's a dive but it's somewhere to go"... I hear it time and time again and regardless of what you say, you must know that this is the standard reaction you get from almost everybody. If you really don't believe me, try asking a few people who aren't within your circle.

Dempseys is a rather small and unexciting pub with a dancefloor upstairs, occupied mostly by straight people during the day, and busy on Saturday (maybe Friday) nights upstairs. It's dead for most of the time (and I mean completely empty upstairs) and although the staff are nice, the customers are a mix of people, comprising of older guys, predatory blokes looking for sex, a handful of younger lads, some lesbians, and a whole hoarde of straight people who presumably can't think of anywhere better to go. Ask youself why there are thousands of gay people in this city and there's probably no more than fifty in Dempseys on a Saturday night. You telling me that's a definition of a "great gay pub" ? Come on get real.

Chox s last statement about Dempeys is so silly and inaccurate it doesnt even deserve a reply.

...which presumably means you have't actually got a valid argument. 'Nuff said.

But from a business point of view it outlasted the onslaught of the 'fuel' brigade when it was deserted by its regulars for 6 months and everyone was saying how great fuel was, (see a previous post i made about people wishing it was still there when it might have had to close due to people rushing to fuel each weekend) Fuel unfortunately was almost a 'Tesco' effect on the Sheffield scene, but at least the smalller venues hung on and rode out the storm and found fuel to be what it really was, draining the gay scene purely for its own benefit. It came in claiming to be for the community etc etc and then went on to put opposing nights to climax etc by being free once a month coincidentally on the nights climax was on! How is that helping sheffield gay scene?

But it is still there and it is still busy, so someone is doing something right no matter how much people say they dislike it.

Indeed, Fuel were like many other venue organisers who have come and gone over the years. Of course the biggest culprits were Alan and Angel who continually bleated about how they were striving to give the gay community what they wanted, when they were only interested in trying to steer people away from any other venue. This has always been another one of Sheffield's problems; while other towns have managed to accept that working together encourages business to flourish, in Sheffield it always has to be a war to compete with each other.

I think the reason Dempseys survives is quite simple; it's cheap and cheerful and even though few people havea good word for it, the place is inevitably better than nothing, and when the only other option was going to Fuel, it was often preferable. The thought of having to endure the attitude of their nasty bouncers (who I almost took to court at one time), the snotty drag queens with their entourage of hissing chickens, the hoardes of straight girls saying "you gay? - what a waste (*eugh*)", the appaling drinks availability and prices, the straight blokes who patently didn't even want to be there (and how we wished they weren't), and that ghastly curtain draped down the middle (how naff was that?)... it was too much to contemplate! With Dempseys, depite it's hopelessly inconsistent music, the afore-mentioned annoying people and the all-too regular risk of finding the place virtually empty, it was (and still is) often as good as it gets in this sad city.

If you believe the city to be so sad and hopeless, we are happy to show you to the M1 and wave you gaily off.

If you believe the city to be so sad and hopeless, we are happy to show you to the M1 and wave you gaily off.

Hear hear Benson & Hedges - if he doesnt like the unique foibles of our very friendly laid back no attitude "big village" mixed gay scene where everyone knows everyone which I find quite refreshing from any other city such as manchester or london then he is quite free to get on his moaning bicyle and cycle over to the gay ghettos in Manchester Canal St (where a straight guy was stabbed to death in the neck a month ago by older gay men) or go to ghetto Leeds (where guys are regularly assaulted in saunas) ....

Give me Dempseys any day or night :-) where the most I have to worry about is getting in the dancing cage with all the happy no attitude straight and gay people :-)

Ahh there we go - the sweet sound of reasoned argument.
Well, at least you've both demonstrated the basis on which you make your judgements for the rest of us to see.

Enjoy yourselves, but please don't rope the rest of us in with your blinkered, rose-coloured fantasy world. It's this kind of rubbish which has got Sheffield into the deplorable state it's now in.

Chox, theres no point in having soure grapes just cos you have come to Sheffield and happened upon a gay/mixed club that is truly inclusive of gay straight male female young old, down to earth, friendly, no attitude, profitable, well run, well policed, values its regular loyal punters (like moi) .... etc etc and not a bitter getto queenie men only drug ridden club with attitude and bitchiness and exclusivity ...

Bless, talk about uninformed...
I've lived here all my life - knew Dempseys a long time before it was ever "gay". I've seen it all come and go, along with the naieve people like yourself who foolishly think Dempseys is somehow good. I've edited national gay magazines, been all over the country, used to work in Manchester. I know rubbish when I see it - seems you don't:hihi:

Well if that's what you seriously believe, it says a lot about some people's mentailty and Dempsey's attitude. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who actually has a good word for Dempseys aside from yourself and presumably a few others who will doubtless appear on here to praise its virtues.

Unfortunately (and you must know this to be true) if you talk to any gay people in Sheffield, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't say "I wouldn't be seen dead in that dump" or "well it's a dive but it's somewhere to go"... I hear it time and time again and regardless of what you say, you must know that this is the standard reaction you get from almost everybody. If you really don't believe me, try asking a few people who aren't within your circle.

Dempseys is a rather small and unexciting pub with a dancefloor upstairs, occupied mostly by straight people during the day, and busy on Saturday (maybe Friday) nights upstairs. It's dead for most of the time (and I mean completely empty upstairs) and although the staff are nice, the customers are a mix of people, comprising of older guys, predatory blokes looking for sex, a handful of younger lads, some lesbians, and a whole hoarde of straight people who presumably can't think of anywhere better to go. Ask youself why there are thousands of gay people in this city and there's probably no more than fifty in Dempseys on a Saturday night. You telling me that's a definition of a "great gay pub" ? Come on get real.

Well I have a valid argument about this peace of utter tripe from you.

You sound a very bitter person, you obviously have something against Dempseys.

Friday`s is also busy, as you wasnt sure.

The part of "no more than 50 in Dempseys on a Saturday night" is such a load of old crap, have you ever been on a Saturday ?, I was in last night and there was loads more than 50, LOL. I left around midnight and people were still coming in.

Your bit about "no one has a good word to say about Dempseys", well they seem to be getting them in at the weekends, so NOT everyone seems to hate it.

I actually might conduct this survey when I am next down, because you dont seem to have done your homework at all about the venue have you.

Hear hear Spider Pete - I would say to CHox if its that bad why are they queueing at the door to get in as I have often seen on on Fri and Sat nights and even fighting to get membership too .... Chox must have some chip on his shoulder against the place - its just jealousy I think and he cant stand integration of gays and straights ...

Fighting for membership - that's the funniest thing I've heard for ages:hihi:

Are you guys for real? Have you ever asked any of the thousands of gay people in Sheffield why they wouldn't be seen dead in there? I'm guessing not. Here's a suggestion; one day, when you're feeling like getting a dose of reality, try asking some regular gay lads who aren't in your own circle of friends and see what they say. I fully accept that you two (or is it three, hmm) enjoy yourselves but even you must know, when you remove the bravardo and self-delusion, that you're completely at odds with reality here. We all know that Dempseys attracts a small but loyal clientele but sadly it never attracts anybody else. Pop into Gaydar sometime and ask some people on there - they'll laugh themselves silly.

Anyway, this is degenerating into a pointless argument over nothing. You obviously have your own view and you're welcome to it. I was/am reflecting the view of everybody else who hates the place or goes there because there's often nothing better. You might choose to convince yourselves that I'm wrong but that's you're preogative. Enjoy!

dempseys is what the individual person makes of it if you dont like it dont go in simple as that but please respect other peoples opionions of it,i for one enjoy the place been goin there for years

please respect other peoples opionions of it


I do - that's my whole point:rolleyes:

Dempseys IS a very classy place ... though I heard that last monday night bank hol camp night was a bit like a working mans club with their cabaret night and half the bar staff in drag - all that was missing was for Brian Potter to appear in his wheelchair I understand .... oooh and arnt heir chesseburgers and chips simply great - top cuisine plain food from a plain down to earth pub :-)

As a casual and impartial but regular reader of this thread who has no affinity (no pun intended) with any of the regular contributors, I have to say that the comments made against Chox seem to be taking things a little too personal and need to cill out, calm down and try and reply with a more rationale view to what's been said (btw I'm also not into mob mentality although Chox seems to be doing fine holding his corner). In some respects I have to agree in his view of the whole Sheffield scene and Dempseys. I too have lived in Sheffield all my life and experienced what's been and gone here as well as what other cities have to offer (eg. Machester, Leeds, Edinburgh Glasgow, London and many overseas club/bars etc.). I can't say Dempsey's compares well in my opinion but that's not to say it's a bad place. If people enjoy what Dempsey's has to offer then that's fine, but as Chox said, if the regular 'clique' of contributors on this thread were to ever take a consensus of all gays in Sheffield on what they thought of Dempseys, then in my view, I doubt it would come out very favourable.

If the regulars of Dempseys enjoy and love the club, then that's great and no one can tell you otherwise (so it seems). So what if the majority of Sheffield gays think Dempsey's is not very good, why should that bother you so much ? You love it and that's what matters to you. In what I believe was the height of Sheffield's gay scene when there were places like Cavaliers, Planet, Adelphi, Manhattens, The Bulldog, The Norfok (Xes), Ma Bakers, as well as Climax and Poptastic in town, there must have been thousands out on a Friday or Sat night. I dare say all these punters don't all now cram into Dempsey's ? I know this is probably over 10yrs ago but surely all gays don't die off as clubs die off. It must be an indication that a lots of gays don't rate Dempsey's as much as the hard core regulars who go there and as there is no other 'real' choice, they either stay at home, go to straight bars/clubs, or seek other more appropriate clubs outside of Sheffield. (By the way I hated all that Alan/Angel gay monopoly stuff during the 90's too).

Chox may not be very subtle about his views on Dempsey's and the scene, and it has hit a nerve or rubbed some people up the wrong way, but it shouldn't provoke the the reaction that he should leave the city if he doesn't like it. He is just highlighting the distinct lack of options available in Sheffield. Yes I know there are 'one off' monthly's or events and it's great that this happens. I realise and admire the effort and money these people put into trying to get Sheffield on the map, but Chox is only saying the choices we have, with respect to cities of comparable size, aren't to 'a lot' of peoples taste as qualified by talking to other gay's in the city.

My personal view is that I agree with many of Chox's points in that, in my personal experience of gay/pubs and clubs (as a punter, not an expert), Dempsey's is pretty poor, but it's horses for courses and no doubt it suits the regular 'clique' of contributors on this thread. Just remember, the comments made by these regulars does not represent the voice of Sheffield's gay pub/clubbing population and I'm sure they would be the first to admit that.

Hang about folks, i smell a troll here. Being of a stalker mentality, i just had a squiz at chox's post history, and there is a pattern there. Maybe just trying to cause trouble?

I find the comments about 'dream of a time when the staff would tell the straighjts to leave' etc, just bloody offensive.

Last time i was in a relationship with a woman, we were given the verbals by this guy who came marching over saying "you should not be here this is a GAY club, you should stick to your own places, "etc, being very very agressive with it. I was the chair of the university LGB at the time (note the L, and the B in there as well as the G) and was involved in running it, so we got security to ask him to leave. Basicaly if someone used that line on any other grounds we would find it abhorent "you should not be here because you are gay, black, a woman, etc" .

actually i should add that i think dempseys is rubbish but i absolutely defend it if others like it. A lot of what this guy says makes sense:

I can't say Dempsey's compares well in my opinion but that's not to say it's a bad place. If people enjoy what Dempsey's has to offer then that's fine,

In what I believe was the height of Sheffield's gay scene ....edit,... there must have been thousands out on a Friday or Sat night. I dare say all these punters don't all now cram into Dempsey's ? I know this is probably over 10yrs ago but surely all gays don't die off as clubs die off. It must be an indication that ...as there is no other 'real' choice, they either stay at home, go to straight bars/clubs, or seek other more appropriate clubs outside of Sheffield.

....the distinct lack of options available in Sheffield. Yes I know there are 'one off' monthly's or events and it's great that this happens. I realise and admire the effort and money these people put into trying to get Sheffield on the map, ...

Sooo Dempseys is not popular eh - what other gay pub/club runs THIS schedule ...

Sunday 12pm-3am Downstairs bar open all day. Sunday Carvery. Karaoke Night. Dancefloor open from 9pm
Monday 12pm-3am Downstairs bar open all day. Dancefloor open from 9pm
Tuesday 12pm-3am Downstairs bar open all day. Dancefloor open from 9pm
Wednesday 12pm-3am Downstairs bar open all day. Karaoke Night.Dancefloor open from 9pm
Thursday 12pm-3am Downstairs bar open all day. Dancefloor open from 9pm. Every fortnight male stripper on stage at 11.30pm
Friday 12pm-4am Downstairs bar open all day. Dancefloor open from 9pm.
Saturday 12pm-4am Downstairs bar open all day. Dancefloor open from 9pm

Hang about folks, i smell a troll here. Being of a stalker mentality, i just had a squiz at chox's post history, and there is a pattern there. Maybe just trying to cause trouble?


I have to agree. Sour grapes and/or jealousy perhaps at not having managed to keep their own gay-only place successfully open whilst upholding the principles that he bemoans the apparent lack of in other venues, which co-incidentally, are open.

I haven't lived in the area long, I don't claim to have tried all the best venues of all the other cities in the country and i have had my own whinges aimed at dempsey's from time to time.

No, it's not a top notch place (so what?), yes, they do let too many straight people in at times (but hey, some gay people DO have straight friends) but it is a reasonable place that doesn't rip you off, or have over zealous door staff, where you can go for a decent night out.

Well there's not much I can add without risk of repetition - and possibly upsetting Carborundum still further!

Of course, the people who enjoy Dempseys are more than welcome to carry-on enjoying it. I would think that goes without saying but this wasn't my point. The notion was that, regardless of whether some people enjoy going there, it was somehow perceived as being a good/great gay venue which, by any standards, is hardly fair.

Naturally, some of those who really like the place will support it and defend it but that ignores the huge numbers of potential gay pub/club-goers who, time and time again, say (quite literally) that they "wouldn't be seen dead" in there. Plus the many other people who go there (myself included) because it's often the nearest thing we've got to a gay club. But that's not to Dempsey's credit - it's to the shame of the rest of the city that seems incapable of providing anything better.

As has been said, it only took the arrival of Fuel to suddenly threaten Dempseys with closure. Heaven-knows Fuel wasn't fantastic but it illustrated how Dempseys inevitably survives because it's essentially the only game in town. Okay, maybe it's a bit unfair to be picking on poor Dempseys, but then they are the subject of this thread, and while some people still want to praise the place as being "great", I can't help feeling obliged to point-out that they're either deluding themselves or attempting to delude everyone else!

I'm also slightly bemused by Carborundum's listing of Dempsey's schedule, as if this somehow proves anything one way or the other. Yes, they're open virtaully all week but as I said a long time ago, most of this time the place is empty. In some cases the upstairs room is completely empty. I've been in twice over recent weeks on different nights and having gone upstairs, it's been completely devoid of any customers. In actual fact, the upstairs room only fills up on Saturdays, some Fridays and occasionally late on Sundays but recently it's never filled-up on Sundays either.

So, surely you have to ask why the place isn't packed to the rafters if it's so great? The simple answer is because it's far from great. I fully accept that they probably have to let pretty-much anybody in just to make a profit but I don't see how we should be proud of that fact or somehow grateful. Then to suggest that people have to fight for membership is just laughable!

As for Craigpugh's comments, well I have to say that I find his comments just as potentially offensive. If he thinks having a valid argument is "causing trouble" then that's a bit sad. Having read the various threads on this forum about Sheffield's gay scene, I felt I should say something, as there seemed to be an awful lot of misconceptions floating about which should be addressed. Oh, and as for his story about being asked to leave because he was with a girl, I suspect that story hasn't been recalled exactly as it happened. Surely, if someone had told him that he ought to be in a straight club if he was with a girl, he would have simply said that he was bisexual and that would have been the end of it? Maybe the encounter was rather more heated than that, who knows, but regardless of the precise facts, it doesn't detract from the proposition that it makes perfect sense to expect gay people to be in a gay club, and not straight people.

It reminds me of Julia Grant when she ran Hollywood Showbar in Manchester, during a Gay pride weekend. She took to the stage, welcomed everyone to Gay Pride and then said "could all the straight people in here kindly ***** off" and proceeded to walk around the bar with security staff, asking people to leave. That really does take some nerve but she got a huge cheer and doubtless got a whole lot of admiration and support for saying/doing it. Whilst I wouldn't advocate going quite as far as Julia, I really don't see why we should have to constantly accept every "gay night" as being a free-for-all open to everyone. It makes no more sense than Sadacca not being predominantly for black people, the Irish clubs being for the Irish, the Jewish clubs for the Jewish or whatever else. It's a contradiction in terms. You can call it what you like - segragation, a ghetto mentality, discrimination... it's all of those things of course but so what? In essence, the same argument people have used previously applies to this kind of approach too - if you don't like the idea of an almost exclusively gay night then don't go. There will be many more people who will.

Ahh there we go - the sweet sound of reasoned argument.


I prefer hysterical drivel about how being "out and proud" means you should only go to gay pubs myself.

what I believe was the height of Sheffield's gay scene when there were places like Cavaliers, Planet, Adelphi, Manhattens, The Bulldog, The Norfok (Xes), Ma Bakers, as well as Climax and Poptastic in town, there must have been thousands out on a Friday or Sat night.

To be fair though, those places were as crap as Dempseys and loads of people went to Leeds or Manchester rather than spend the night in them.

Got to admit and agree with nick2 that they were all a bit crap in those days too. But then again where have all the people gone that used to frequent such places ? Albeit not exactly the same people but with respect to today's pubbers/clubbers ?

I think we have to stand back here because Chox is only pointing out a difference in choice and people can either agree or disagree. What people shouldn't do is be so defensive and not take it so personally. It's getting to be a bit of a mob mentality against Chox and I'm totally against any sort of gang bullying or witch hunt. Rationale discussion and comments and not points scoring should be encouraged. It shouldn't be a slagging match.

Many on this thread prefer a mixed open venue but we have to remember the people on this thread do not represent the whole or general consensus of the gay population of Sheffield. I am sure Chox has a valid point in that many would want an exclusively gay club/venue and that should be accepted as much as the ones you choose to go to like Dempsey's. He has his opinons of Dempsey's as we all do but the fact he doesn't like it should not affect you. I personally don't like Dempsey's either and I've not been for quite a while. At least Chox still goes ! His points on the attitude of straights in gay bars is a valid one. There can be a good mixed crowd and we all have straight friends but it's not all 'gay hugging' at times and some do take the p*** or treat it as a novelty.

As for Dempsey's itself being a 'great' club, as I mentioned before, in comparison to the look and the feel of other clubs I've been to, and as popular it may be with the regulars, you have to be very honest with yourselves, however much you love the place, if it 'really' is 'great' in the generic sense ? If you do, then I think you really need to get out more.

It's getting to be a bit of a mob mentality against Chox

Not really - two people (or is it three?) hardly constitutes a mob:hihi:

I agree that even back in the days of Cavaliers, Norfolk Arms, Cossack, Bulldog, etc., the venues weren't exactly fantastic but they were "gay" in that you hardly ever saw a straight guy or girl. It might be interesting to recall that on Saturday nights, there was a queue outside the Norfolk Arms just to get in, quite frequently. Over at the Cossack, you sometimes had to go out the front door and in the back, rather than fight you way through, it was so packed. So these venues were very popular once.

So are these two facts connected? I guess the usual suspects on here will claim that they weren't, but I think any impartial observer can reach his own conclusions.

the venues weren't exactly fantastic but they were "gay" in that you hardly ever saw a straight guy or girl..............these venues were very popular once.


So whay aren't they popular now ?

Most of the bars in Manchester I would count as being "mixed", they definately arn't strictly gay, but they flourish, why is that ?

Old Compton Street is practically a tourist attraction with a near 50/50 mix of gay/straight, but the bars flourish, why is that ?

Could it be becasue they arn't "gay only" places ?

If the regulars of Dempseys enjoy and love the club, then that's great and no one can tell you otherwise (so it seems). So what if the majority of Sheffield gays think Dempsey's is not very good, why should that bother you so much ? You love it and that's what matters to you. l

The only thing about his post that bothered me is the lack of knowledge of how many people go on a Saturday and saying "only 50 people" is extremely mis-leading indeed.

We seem to be going round in circles. Firstly, the comment about "fifty" gay people in Dempseys is obviously a generalisation but if you take-off your rose-coloured spectacles, you'll find it's a pretty accurate figure. How many gay people do you imagine to be there on a Saturday night? Next time you're in there, step back and take a proper look and actually do some counting, and then take-off maybe a quarter of the total who aren't gay. You'll find that fifty is a pretty close guess. And that's just a Saturday...

As for why the various venues "aren't popular now" well I think you know the answer to that. They mostly closed. Cavaliers and the Bulldog were bought-up by Alan and Angel as part of their quest to take-over the so-called gay scene, and thanks to a mixture of poor management, a complete lack of promotion and the insecapable fact that lots of people just didn't want to support them (because of the way that they tried to "kill-off" any competition), the punters drifted away. Consequently, the whole East End scene died and so even the once-popular Norfolk Arms lost its customers too. If you're suggesting that they all closed because they were "gay" then you'd be wrong. The NA, cavaliers and The Club/Rockies, did fine for a long time. It was only the appearance of Planet and Alan/Angel's empire that ended it.

Manchester, well it's a big scene with lots of places so obviously some places are straight, some mixed and some gay. My point is that the gay ones do very well and always have done. Naturally there are mixed places too but that's rather missing my point, isn't it?

London? Well same applies to Compton Street. naturally it's a mixed crowd but in the middle of Soho it couldn't be anything else. Whether the straight or mixed venues do ok or not I don't know or care. My point was/is that the gay ones (Comptons, GAY Bar, Admiral etc.) all do fine without catering for mixed crowds.

First post on this thread as a straight man.
I sometimes drink in Manchester and occasionally go to Canal Street. This is partly due to one of our crowd being gay, but also because it's always friendly and trouble free (helpful on a footy day) and ALWAYS welcoming. When we sometimes go without our gay friend, and with our partners, we always have a good time and don't feel awkward.

Been to Dempseys once and was a distinctly uncomfortable feeling to the place, and also one bitchy comment about "only gays in here" to one of us. I don't actually care if I'm welcome or not. If I'm not, I'll just go elsewhere. Just thought it was a pity.

First post on this thread as a straight man.
I sometimes drink in Manchester and occasionally go to Canal Street. This is partly due to one of our crowd being gay, but also because it's always friendly and trouble free (helpful on a footy day) and ALWAYS welcoming. When we sometimes go without our gay friend, and with our partners, we always have a good time and don't feel awkward.

Been to Dempseys once and was a distinctly uncomfortable feeling to the place, and also one bitchy comment about "only gays in here" to one of us. I don't actually care if I'm welcome or not. If I'm not, I'll just go elsewhere. Just thought it was a pity.

Well there you go then swordfish - if the mentality of one new poster is allowed to hold sway you would not be welcome in ANY gay bars - now how would that make you feel towards gay people - not exactly homofriendly I bet ....

What do you mean "well there you go" as if having proved something? Do you actually read and digest the contents of these posts before replying to them? I'm beginning to wonder:hihi:

Frankly, with all due respect to Swordfish, the viewpoint of a straight person is irrelevant. We're talking about the gay scene (or lack thereof) which I rather thought would be designed for gay people? :roll:

Hmm, the Julia whatnot example sounds like some kind of nazism, what did they do qwith the straight people they rounded up, wrere any of them seen again... sounds very like the kind of approach i think should be taken.

Chox has a point, a more exclusively gay club would be good, because it would appeal to a different set of customers. It backs up my overall view that our city can easilly support a variety of gay venues, as long as each caters for differences.

Craigpugh, I'd be inclined to agree with you but I fear that even if anybody does make an effort to start anything new, Sheffield has plodded-along for far too long without a gay scene now, and anybody who does try to create anything new will have an increasingly uphill struggle to succeed. People's social circles have changed and people's social habits have changed, simply in order to suit what is actually available to them. Getting people to change again would be a very hard task.

Well I have a valid argument about this peace of utter tripe from you.

You sound a very bitter person, you obviously have something against Dempseys.

Friday`s is also busy, as you wasnt sure.

The part of "no more than 50 in Dempseys on a Saturday night" is such a load of old crap, have you ever been on a Saturday ?, I was in last night and there was loads more than 50, LOL. I left around midnight and people were still coming in.

Your bit about "no one has a good word to say about Dempseys", well they seem to be getting them in at the weekends, so NOT everyone seems to hate it.

I actually might conduct this survey when I am next down, because you dont seem to have done your homework at all about the venue have you.


As one who dearly loves Dempseys, those of you who speak up for them are right that NO other LGBT club in Sheffield is open 7 days a week, or has such an extensive premises (pub serving food downstairs with entertainment most weeks, and club with seperate cocktail bar and pool room upstairs.

However, although we have seen welcoming improvements in the last couple of years, in particular the enlargement of the main bar upstairs, and the new flatscreens downstairs, the cold, hard economic realities of the Gay market will be inexorably pushing for far more exciting or comprehensive improvement of the venue, in order to compete with the nearby scenes of Manchester and Leeds, and the potential for someone else like Fuel to spy a 'niche' in the market to set up a brand-new 'superclub'.

What the brief success of Fuel demonstrated (followed by its recent, quite disgraceful withdrawal altogether from Sheffield) was that when competition is there, Dempseys will invest big money in new features/equipment to keep us loyal members coming, but what price the investment of thousands in state of the art flatscreens, when the place is still full of an assortment of 1980's and even 1970's vintage furniture, smothered with coats of paint to keep it 'fresh looking' every few years?
It might be the most environmentally sound thing to hang onto old furniture like this, but what does it do for the image of a venue that is otherwise doing its best to win over new, young customers from month to month, especially as Dempseys is one of the few constants on the Gay Scene in Sheffield, while other venues have closed, moved or gone bust?

I know Colin has had plans for improvements for some years, which were held back because of the uncertainty about the future of the location due to the redevelopment of the Moor, but now that his lease is safe for several years yet, I would imagine that now is the time to start thinking big if there is any prospect of investing a large sum in updating the club as one truly for the 21st Century.

I know I have harped on about how Dempseys could become a smaller Sheffield version of Nightingale in Birmingham, but any of you who have ever visited Nighingale, will know what you mean by the standard that that club sets for the scene, even shaming most London clubs (except perhaps Fabric) with the standard of facilities it offers.

Interestingly, Dempseys shares some rare features with Nightingale, in particular, a range of hot food available all night, and a seperate Cocktail Bar (In Nightingale, they have a PIANO Bar, something I also remember in Hollywood SB in Manchester, but I don't know if they still have that there.

Anyway, sorry if I've rambled on a bit too long, but I hope many Dempsey's regulars get the drift that in theory there could be a huge potential in waiting for the club over the coming years!:love:

Somehow I can't quite equate Dempseys with Nightingales!

It's a nice idea, I agree, but it ain't gonna happen. Despite my comments about Dempseys, I can symapthise with Colin's position and I can't imagine he would have any appetite to throw huge sums of money at the place, when it would probably achieve very little, especially when his tenure there is temporary.

For whatever reasons, and you can argue about these forever, Dempseys has it's own crowd of people which doesn't vary all that much. It's never packed to overflowing and for the major part of the week it's virtually empty. Given that this is the situation, it would be a brave man that poured a lot of money into further refurbishments when it would probably result in very little additional custom. Dempseys already divides people into different camps and I seriously doubt if those that hate the place would ever be inclined to change their view, no matter what colour the walls might be. Besides, when you know a venue is going to be bulldozed sooner or later, who would want to throw money at it?

Frankly, if there was any ambition to develop Dempseys into a venue which could seriously be equated with Nightingale, I think you'd want to be starting in a completely different building.

A piano bar for Dempseys? Now THATS an idea - I'm sure it would make it an even more classy venue now that it has a cocktail bar ..... I wonder if they will will want someone to volunteer to drape over the piano - perhaps a drag queen - who could emit sultry tones in the background .... any volunteers ? :-)

Frankly, with all due respect to Swordfish, the viewpoint of a straight person is irrelevant. We're talking about the gay scene (or lack thereof) which I rather thought would be designed for gay people? :roll:


Thought that the title of the thread was "the dempsey's megathread", not "sheffield gay scene"?
I'll leave you to your arguing.;)

Frankly, with all due respect to Swordfish, the viewpoint of a straight person is irrelevant.

Everybodys opinion, except yours, seems to be irrelevant, unless they agree with you.

People's social circles have changed and people's social habits have changed, simply in order to suit what is actually available to them. Getting people to change again would be a very hard task.

Especially if they are actually happy doing what they are doing now.

Perhaps you could set up your own place Chox and see how you get on? :D

...or perhaps you could try reading the previous posts before you make stupid comments - then you'd know the answer to the question:hihi:

I did chuck - I just figured you could be that "brave man" to change things. Things can't change unless someone is willing to be the first to stick their necks out? :)

I did chuck - I just figured you could be that "brave man" to change things. Things can't change unless someone is willing to be the first to stick their necks out? :)

I think he should be the brave man to change things, since he is making a big deal about it all **yawn** :)

no big deal, just not agreeing with some of the stuff which is being said

no big deal, just not agreeing with some of the stuff which is being said

really, I never noticed. :P:P

Ok, so here goes, tin hat on now lol

Dempsey's isn't great. The toilets are lousy, its always boiling and there can be an odd and sometimes uncomfortable atmosphere in there. But, it's predominantly gay when it matters, in the night time when it gives people somewhere to go as there is sod all else in Sheffield that people can rely on.

I, and many others on this thread will remember when Dempseys was a fledgling bar, when you had to have a meal ticket to go upstairs and basically ram down sausage and chips before you could get a drink. When Alan/Angel and cronies were going all out to stop Colin et al getting the late licence. Where else is there a gay bar in Sheffield that in good times and bad, despite rivals posing such staunch legal opposition and experiencing the peaks and troughs in popularity has endured the way it has? Nowhere.

Like the a lot of the SF gays, I've seen all the new clubs/nights and bars rise and mainly fall. Poptastic, Fairy Likquid, Indigo, 'that one at the adelphi that nobody ever remembers' along with the tons of others already mentioned here. Since I came out (1994ish) Climax is the only one that's still going and Xes that still has it's doors open for business.

We're never going to be Manchester, Leeds, London, Newcastle or even Wakefield. For whatever reason, gay businesses fail here, be that the fault of the owners or the punters. Apart from just bars and club nights things such as the hive of feminist lesbianism that was the Women's Cultural Club failed, the youth groups have waned, the switchboards that used to operate struggle and/or fold - none of which bodes well for the rest of the scene.

In short, (and this is the generic 'you' before anyone gets shirty!!) I suppose I'm saying if you don't like it, stay away. If it's beneath you, don't bother. If you are convinced you can do better, do it. If you love it, tell everyone and keep going. It would be so much easier if people accepted that the setup of Dempseys does it for some people and not for others.

And yes, the cheesburgers are rather marvellous, as is the carvery :)

Personally, I wouldn't disagree with any of that. But to say "if you don't like it - stay away" is a bit lazy. I don't think any venue should be above criticism when it's deserved. Besides, it's not as if Dempseys is going to take any notice of anything said on this forum! But I think it's worth airing people's views, especially when you read comments from people claiming that Dempseys is somehow "great" or whatever. What must casual readers make of comments like that?

Gawd yes, Fairy Likuid, the Adelphi (I remember the first night there - two girls and my group and that was it - how awful). Poptastic - what a shame that just about every town in the north ended-up with a Poptastic night apart from Sheffield, especially when it was so popular. Trash, Peach, Rockies, The Club, Planet, Cavaliers, Indigo, Matilda, Bar Miles, Cossack, Barcelona, that one opposite XS (what was it called?), Stars, Isabellas... It's like a casualty list!

In short, (and this is the generic 'you' before anyone gets shirty!!) I suppose I'm saying if you don't like it, stay away. If it's beneath you, don't bother. If you are convinced you can do better, do it. If you love it, tell everyone and keep going. It would be so much easier if people accepted that the setup of Dempseys does it for some people and not for others.

And yes, the cheesburgers are rather marvellous, as is the carvery :)

I agree here, and basically sums up some people of SF. You can tell who likes Dempseys, you can tell who doesnt even bother supporting the Sheffield scene and others who go to Leeds. London and Manchester.

But thats how it has been for years. Sheffield will never improve because they will never get the support from the gay population.

The cheeseburgers are rather nice as well :)

Well said Kittylitter ! I also agree with your sentiments not only on Dempsey's but the general attitude of the Sheffield 'scene'.

By the way, I'm amazed how many people remember so many of the old venues. Makes me wonder how old you all are !!!

(oh, and I was there on the first night at the Adelphi too. Pretty poor turn out and by around midnight you could count the number of people in there on one hand ! Shame as the building itself was really nice).

anyone off to dempseys tonite
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I'm new to the boards but went to Affinity for the first time the other night and I felt soo old. I'm just shy of 30 but the crowd was pretty much 18-20 year olds. It would be really great to have a gay bar in Sheffield that actually catered for young professionals (i.e. 25+)... Which leads me on to my remark about Dempseys... it has its regulars and because of that seems to have weathered the ever changing landscape of the Sheffield scene. Gay venues have come and gone but however much criticism is flung at Dempseys, it's still here! I have many fond memories from my early 20s in Dempseys and i'm pleased to see it's still going strong. I just wish there was more variety for those of us 30+, instead of having to travel further afield to places like Manchester/Leeds/Birmingham/etc.

Yes, some friends of mine, of a certain age (33) were heere from londion yesterday and they felt old cos of all the youngsters in rah rah, they said they felt more at home in dempseys. There is a need for some market fragmentation amongst sheffield gay venues, so different places attarct different markets/ interest groups. Dempseys has the niche as the Scene Stalwart, Xes holds the torch for the 'slightly seedy after hours' category, rah rah rah had a huge number of women last night which was good to see, climax is your generic monthly. maybe this is a discussion for the sheffield gay scene thread?

anyone off to dempseys tonite

I would have done, but I found a load of pins and so I stayed in and stuck them into my eyes.

I would have done, but I found a load of pins and so I stayed in and stuck them into my eyes.

Biatch ;)

I'm new to the boards but went to Affinity for the first time the other night and I felt soo old. I'm just shy of 30 but the crowd was pretty much 18-20 year olds. It would be really great to have a gay bar in Sheffield that actually catered for young professionals (i.e. 25+)... Which leads me on to my remark about Dempseys... it has its regulars and because of that seems to have weathered the ever changing landscape of the Sheffield scene. Gay venues have come and gone but however much criticism is flung at Dempseys, it's still here! I have many fond memories from my early 20s in Dempseys and i'm pleased to see it's still going strong. I just wish there was more variety for those of us 30+, instead of having to travel further afield to places like Manchester/Leeds/Birmingham/etc.

We were talking about this last night in Dempseys, how they have survived everything thrown at them, when Fuel first opened the place was deserted for a while, and when the novelty wore off they came back, look where Fuel are now ............. back in Hull.

The place does attract the 30+ crowd, and saw alot of them last night.

It was pretty quiet on Friday I would guess that could be down to Rah Rah Rah night.

Last night was another different story, so lets put the stupid gossip talk to bed, the place was packed, again, and well over 50 people, I gave up after 51, lol. Plus I hardly saw any straight people there, although I didnt ask everyone, you can tell the straight bloke in a gay bar a mile off. oh and people did seem to be enjoying themselves as well.

The place may get slagged off, which it does on here, by those who dont even bother to go, lol, :wave: hiya Meaks, your eyes ok dear :P:P, you cannot deny that they can still pull the people in.

I wish they would get rid of those stools, they are a bit dodgy when drunk trying to sit on them.

I would have done, but I found a load of pins and so I stayed in and stuck them into my eyes.

Ooooh Meaks go on you are joking - you could have met up with Spider Pete and me and had a fabulous time ! Dempseys was rammed packed I could hardly make it to dance Floor and certainly not the cage - Spider dear you disappeared unexpectedly as you always do - hope you had a nice time !

I would have done, but I found a load of pins and so I stayed in and stuck them into my eyes.

Oooh my word - are they now ok? :hihi:

I would have done, but I found a load of pins and so I stayed in and stuck them into my eyes.

You should have come along to Dempseys dear - we have plenty of knitting needles behind the bar there - I myself am knitting a woolly jersey at the bar there and regularly reminiscing with the bar staff about the good old days raving up in the Cossack when I was in my 50s ....

great night in dempseys sat night it was rammed

All these people who went down on Saturday and I wonder if we all know each other, but dont realise it :suspect::suspect:

we all probly do spider stand in the pen with a fag on in the cold chattin

we all probly do spider stand in the pen with a fag on in the cold chattin

I dont smoke so you wont see me there.

Oooh my word - are they now ok? :hihi:

mimi mquire is kthfb

Well back on the subject of Dempseys - does anyone know what the rules on guests are - I tried to get in as a member with a friend of mine at only 9:20 on a Wednesday evening and they tried to demand 5 quid from me ? Does that sound right ? We ended up just not going in instead as it did look dead at that time and we only wanted one drink - it would have been expensive at 5 quid + drink price - my friend was appalled

Well back on the subject of Dempseys - does anyone know what the rules on guests are - I tried to get in as a member with a friend of mine at only 8:20 on a Wednesday evening and they tried to demand 5 quid from me ? Does that sound right ? We ended up just not going in instead as it did look dead at that time and we only wanted one drink - it would have been expensive at 5 quid + drink price - my friend was appalled

I am surprised anyone was on the door at 8.20, I went the same night and got there at about, 9ish and didnt pay. :suspect::suspect:

It was probably a twink on the make lol

I changed it to 9:20pm sorry typo but it was still before 10 !!!

Benson dont mention twinks to me maybe that why they charged me because a certain recent notorious incident involving me and someone that has got all the bar staff gossiping ...

And no it wasnt a twink at the door it was the full formal compliment Dempsey door crew, Colin, Roy and Dawn !!!

I would have thouight that at least they would have allowed a Dempsey regular to bring in a gay (well bi!) friend that they had seen in there once before for free ....

I was most upset and may not be such a Dempseys regular in future .. in fact I may begin to sound more like Chox and have my misgivings about the place !!!

Probably a stupid question, but whats a twink ???

A twink is what we would call a chicken

I changed it to 9:20pm sorry typo but it was still before 10 !!!

Benson dont mention twinks to me maybe that why they charged me because a certain recent notorious incident involving me and someone that has got all the bar staff gossiping ...

And no it wasnt a twink at the door it was the full formal compliment Dempsey door crew, Colin, Roy and Dawn !!!

I would have thouight that at least they would have allowed a Dempsey regular to bring in a gay (well bi!) friend that they had seen in there once before for free ....

I was most upset and may not be such a Dempseys regular in future .. in fact I may begin to sound more like Chox and have my misgivings about the place !!!

Well did you have your membeship card on you dear ?, if not maybe they thought you were both straight men.

I cannot see you stop going as you will miss all the gossip we discuss.

I was sat in there waiting for you, waiting, waiting and waiting, and eventually, left, I didn`t have my mobile phone on me as i went straight from work, so got your text when arrived home.

A twink is what we would call a chicken

I know a drag queen in Ireland who must own a chicken, because every time she does her cabaret, she starts with the words: 'Hi, Chicken!':hihi:

Was in again last night, and if this place gets any busier they will need to extend it.

Again mega packed.

think SP must must be on commission or something:D

think SP must must be on commission or something:D

No, just stating how busy it was.

It wasn`t busy on Friday though.

mimi mquire is kthfb

I do NOT look like Mimi Macguire!!!!! :mad:

You're getting a slap my boy next time I see you.

BTW I'll next be in Dempseys after my hols in May - I'm sure I'll see a few of you around!

It was extremely busy on Sat night, apparently they were turning people away so i've been told. Affinity was packed too. Busy night all round!

Was in again last night, and if this place gets any busier they will need to extend it.

Again mega packed.

I'd certainly agree with this, but there doesen't seem to be any sign so far of a 'grand redesign' in store, although Dempseys will be at the same site for several years to come...

You really can be quite condescending when you want to can't you Tyranna?

Why the hell would they have a grand redesign? They are packing them in as it is.

Well did you have your membeship card on you dear ?, if not maybe they thought you were both straight men.

I cannot see you stop going as you will miss all the gossip we discuss.

I was sat in there waiting for you, waiting, waiting and waiting, and eventually, left, I didn`t have my mobile phone on me as i went straight from work, so got your text when arrived home.

Yes dear I had my member card - I think 5 pounds is quite insulting to ask form a regular member bringing a friend who they met before, on a dead mid week night at only 9:15 in the evening ..... I may not be a regular member in the future at this rate ... Im in a strop now ....

Yes dear I had my member card - I think 5 pounds is quite insulting to ask form a regular member bringing a friend who they met before, on a dead mid week night at only 9:15 in the evening ..... I may not be a regular member in the future at this rate ... Im in a strop now ....

Well the place is getting packed now, so I am sure they wont miss you dear :P:P:P

Throw the dummy away and come down, you know you want to.

The screens in Dempseys - who likes them - who doesnt? Is the choice of music a bit camp and cheesy e.g. "I dont know what planet your on!" and who thinks they are an intrusion preventing conversation?

The screens in Dempseys - who likes them - who doesnt? Is the choice of music a bit camp and cheesy e.g. "I dont know what planet your on!" and who thinks they are an intrusion preventing conversation?

The screens in Dempseys - who likes them - who doesnt? Is the choice of music a bit camp and cheesy e.g. "I dont know what planet your on!" and who thinks they are an intrusion preventing conversation?

WHOOPS! Double post, Carbs.

I certainly like the new screens, although they could do with coordinating the Karaoke song titles across them all on Karaoke nights, as some of the karaoke discs seem to only play the lyrics on the small screen on the karaoke itself!

The seats in Dempseys - they are a bit old are they not - I was sitting on them on sunday night for the karaoke (which incidentally was a great night from what I can remember) and after a while me bum got sore ....

The seats in Dempseys - they are a bit old are they not - I was sitting on them on sunday night for the karaoke (which incidentally was a great night from what I can remember) and after a while me bum got sore ....Well, think about where you were :hihi:

Well, think about where you were :hihi:

Did anyone go to Dempseys over the Bank Hoilday and if so was it like?

Al: I ended up in there Sunday night.

Had a ball! (as in a fun evening) Was generally unaware of most people other than my friends and I but it was a good atmosphere, if not the usualy sauna.

Dempseys might not be much, but it's what we've got so we might as well make the most of it whilst it's open!

My reliable insider sources tell me it was absolutely rammed last bank holiday weekend. I was in on Wednesday for the Karaoke and it was unusually quiet - no doubt everyone spent out or saving up for Climax.

But still it was very good - had a most interesting conversation with a straight camp man, married to a lesbian, with 2 gay sons, 2 gay cats and a gay dog !

So I had to do my brave part to carry the Karaoke with Curtis and warble not one but TWO songs one of which was a duet introducing a newbie to Karaoke ... PS I hope he didnt leave his packet of chocolate buscuits at the bar (people know what I mean ;-)

SpiderPete dear I think you were upstairs playing pool with JamesOGT at the time !

I was just thinking the other day about Dempseys ... can anyone define WHy it is such a GOOD GOOD bar ?

Whats this about the old white membership cards are no longer valid. Do I need to pay again to get a new card?

No - show them your old one and you will get a new "Gold" card for free I think - thats because it is such an "elite" club now with lots of straight people clamouring to get in also - so get yours quick !

By thw way what do people think of the Cocktail bar upstairs - isnt it a bit pricy at a fiver a cocktail - through you can sample the delightful company of the loverly Andy also ;-)

No - show them your old one and you will get a new "Gold" card for free I think - thats because it is such an "elite" club now with lots of straight people clamouring to get in also - so get yours quick !

By thw way what do people think of the Cocktail bar upstairs - isnt it a bit pricy at a fiver a cocktail - through you can sample the delightful company of the loverly Andy also ;-)

Dempsey's an elite club!!! Please give me a break …I know its the only reasonable gay club/bar in Sheffield but I wouldn’t go as far to say its an elite club/bar. As for this member ship thing I don’t see the point of it's a money making thing don’t get me started on that!!!

Now its got posh shiny stools and tables too so there !

Now its got posh shiny stools and tables too so there !

It really has gone up in the world.

Is the Pie and Peas night still going on or is it a Steak night now?

DEMPSEYS SPECIAL BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY NIGHT EXTRAVAGANZA

Special announcement from John Paul ...

Often billed as Yorkshire's answer to Lily Savage, Penny Change has an irreverent wicked but warm wit. Bouncing off an audience with the speed of a machine gun. She doesn't take prisoners and is not afraid to use material very near the knuckle. Often rude but never crude, Penny wins over a crowd with all the polish that comes from being a professional for over 30 years.

Having worked in 10 countries on 3 Continents, Penny's show now consists of stand-up and visual comedy, audience participation, comedy characters and usually a bit of speciality fire eating thrown in for good measure ...

That just about sums up just how good Penny Change is and how she has lasted the course on the local drag circuit. Make sure you pay a visit and catch it for yourself.

Don't forget we're forging ahead towards the summer and we have entertainment every night of the week. Our faithful Ratt hosts our Games Nights every Tuesday and Thursday in the downstairs bar. 'Play Your Cards Right' and 'Open the Box' are both going down well and, on Tuesdays, we have the added bonus of Bingo at 10.30pm. Get those dabbers out and use them for what they were intended for, you dirty bleeders!

Curtis hosts our infamous karaoke nights on Sundays and Wednesdays. These never falter in popularity and we seemed to have unearthed some quite good singers over the months (and some awful ones, too, but as long a they're happy!)

On the second Thursday of each month we also feature a male stripper in the upstairs bar with the entertainment normally taking the floor around 11.30pm. From my point of view it's just one of the perks from working in the DJ box because I get to see everything...

That's about it for now. We welcome back Colin and Dawn from holiday and now I expect we'll have to listen for weeks as to how good a time they had. How boring!

And of course you can see me in appearance at the Sunday Karaoke night....

I shall be there tonight and Monday.

Sorry I dint make it dear on Sunday - was pursuing creative hobbies - I must get along tonight to see ...

the inimitable PENNY CHANGE !!!!

And of course the famous institutional Dempseys staff drag show !

Sorry I dint make it dear on Sunday - was pusuing creative pursits - I must get along tonight to see ...

the inimitable PENNY CHANGE !!!!

And of course the famous institutional Dempseys staff drag show !

Well you missed a good night, was very busy, but thats expected on Bank Holiday, some really good singers as well, they seem to come out, so to speak, on Bank Holidays.

Well you missed a good night, was very busy, but thats expected on Bank Holiday, some really good singers as well, they seem to come out, so to speak, on Bank Holidays.

But of course they were missing the best singer dear ;-) Anyway might see you at the Penny Change event tonight - I do hope she is gentle with us older gays :-)

Actually it was pretty dull. It wasn't all that full, pretty-much like a normal Sunday. The singing was scary as usual and we bolted upstairs when Tianna started-up! Upstairs was okay, not exactly bursting at the seams though. They kept playing rubbish music so we left at two!

Actually it was pretty dull. It wasn't all that full, pretty-much like a normal Sunday. The singing was scary as usual and we bolted upstairs when Tianna started-up! Upstairs was okay, not exactly bursting at the seams though. They kept playing rubbish music so we left at two!

How can you leave at 2.00 when it is only 1:45 :huh::huh:

Must say Penny Change was on form again, thoroughly enjoyable night :)

I dont smoke so you wont see me there.
As I keep telling you young man, if you never smoke you will never be cool!!
So the word in the office is that you had a good weekend SpiderPete, missed you while on the coast hahahaha.
Maybe next weekend and this Australian Slut will be out to join you!

Actually it was pretty dull. It wasn't all that full, pretty-much like a normal Sunday. The singing was scary as usual and we bolted upstairs when Tianna started-up!

I was going to post something along these lines. Can someone please pay for Tianna to have singing lessons? PLEASE?? "Summertime" is a delightful old song, mullered so badly by Tianna it was a couple of minutes before I even recognised the song.
I can't sing, I know this and therefore don't do karoake. Other people should take note of this, or improve their singing.

I was referring to Sunday not Monday. I sympathise if Tianna did a repeat performance on Monday. Bless... at first I thought she was quite funny but you know how some things can be waaaay overdone?:help:

Well I missed Sunday and Tiannas singing more is the pity but I made monday night to see Penny Change for the first time and I must say I had once of the best funniest nights there in ages, She was ruthless with her audience - I got off lightly by comparison but the whole night was brilliant as was the dance session upstairs later on - why I was even almost in the cage with Tianna at one point but oculd not coax her in ;-)

haha I will fit the door, I know a welder who can ensure the door never opens!!!

I have not been in so long I may go this weekend. :)

cage would be a good place to keep 'er...:D

Why dont you seal yourself in a cage out in Attercliffe where you seem happiest - instead of attacking poor Tyranna - and I suppose you would want me to be sealed in a cage with her too !!

It's no wonder the poor dear hasnt posted on here for a while with personal attacks like this !

get a grip!

Why dont you seal yourself in a cage out in Attercliffe where you seem happiest - instead of attacking poor Tyranna - and I suppose you would want me to be sealed in a cage with her too !!

It's no wonder the poor dear hasnt posted on here for a while with personal attacks like this !

Thank you, Carbs!

Any more abuse like this and I will go STRAIGHT TO THE MODERATORS!

I was attacked in affinity on Saturday and have just been busy on Sunday seeing the cops about it, so I am being extra-vigilant.

Remember, this thread is First and Foremost about DEMPSEYS.

Penny Change was EXCELLENT, her gift of the gab was as golden as ever -I REALLY envy her way with words!!! And she did an all-new show as well, complete with a hilarious fire-eating stunt! Shame that the room looked only half-full, as people seemed to be slouching upstairs and away at certain other venues, but they missed a treat, from the nicest Drag Queen on God's Earth!
Shame that Penny can't headline the Pride Stage this Saturday...

Tonight, Monday 2nd JUNE, is Dawn's BIRTHDAY!!! I'll be heading down in half an hour for a quick jar...


And, Finally, Ladies And Gentlemen: Dempseys have got a new (Drum Roll, Perleeassse!) LOBBY CARPET!!!
Come and admire the way the light catches the rich, textured grey pile, run your fingers through the sumptious strands of nylon, smell the fresh newness of the material, but DON'T, whatever you do, spill your drinks or stub your cigarettes on it! You have been warned lol!:hihi:

Thank you, Carbs!

Any more abuse like this and I will go STRAIGHT TO THE MODERATORS!

I was attacked in affinity on Saturday and have just been busy on Sunday seeing the cops about it, so I am being extra-vigilant.

Remember, this thread is First and Foremost about DEMPSEYS.

Penny Change was EXCELLENT, her gift of the gab was as golden as ever -I REALLY envy her way with words!!! And she did an all-new show as well, complete with a hilarious fire-eating stunt! Shame that the room looked only half-full, as people seemed to be slouching upstairs and away at certain other venues, but they missed a treat, from the nicest Drag Queen on God's Earth!
Shame that Penny can't headline the Pride Stage this Saturday...

Tonight, Monday 2nd JUNE, is Dawn's BIRTHDAY!!! I'll be heading down in half an hour for a quick jar...


And, Finally, Ladies And Gentlemen: Dempseys have got a new (Drum Roll, Perleeassse!) LOBBY CARPET!!!
Come and admire the way the light catches the rich, textured grey pile, run your fingers through the sumptious strands of nylon, smell the fresh newness of the material, but DON'T, whatever you do, spill your drinks or stub your cigarettes on it! You have been warned lol!:hihi:Can I ask if this was physically or verbally ?

Don`t forget in conjunciton with Gay Pride on Saturday Dempseys is open until 6am.

:banana:

I can see a heavy hangover and extremely tired on Sunday. :gag:

A new lobby carpet?!

Sorry, but I just can't get excited about lobby carpet.

I must admit Dawns birthday evening was a true extravaganza of an evening with nice food layed on for Dempseys regulars and I heartily enjoyed the night no end - great on Curtis too for laying on an impromptu karaoke - some really talented singers too popped up from nowhere ;-)

Yes I am afraid it IS true - I was there on the fateful night .. Tyranna was assaulted physically in Affinity - I think from now on we should all seek the safe sanctuary of Dempseys instead and hit them back where it hurts in their pockets

Don`t forget in conjunciton with Gay Pride on Saturday Dempseys is open until 6am.

:banana:

I can see a heavy hangover and extremely tired on Sunday. :gag:

That'll be me then - I'm in there on Saturday night after my friend's wedding reception! See you there - if you haven't gone home early again!!! :hihi