View Full Version : July 7 bombs: Police launch raids : Sheffield House


MeGe
16-09-2005, 14:45
One Property in Sheffield was searched on Wednesday, police said. Should we start afraid of who our neighbours are ? :o


cnn report :

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/16/britain.raids/index.html

ilaria
16-09-2005, 15:21
im now wondering who my neighbours are.:suspect:

Macca
16-09-2005, 15:25
Originally posted by ilaria
im now wondering who my neighbours are.:suspect:

Ask them then.

Yours is exactly the type of atitude they are trying to put into our heads, don't let them win.

Jimbob1989
16-09-2005, 17:55
Originally posted by liencam
Ask them then.

Yours is exactly the type of atitude they are trying to put into our heads, don't let them win.

And what attitude is that? I nearly lost a close friend in the first london attack. I don't see any problem with keeping your eyes open for suspicious activity. Maybe the people who lost their lives on the attacks would have been more aware if they were a little more suspicious.

However I can see the problems with people being too suspicious and not trusting their neighbours wrongly.

Abdul
16-09-2005, 19:57
I haven't seen anything yet on the Sheffield Star website - that's surprising because they usually go for this kind of story (or, depending on who you speak to, make it up instead :suspect: )

There's nothing on the local BBC news site either. I wonder if CNN confused Leeds with Sheffield...

pete_fcs
16-09-2005, 20:21
Originally posted by Abdul
.... I wonder if CNN confused Leeds with Sheffield...

that's what i thought, CNN probably just looked for the most important city near the arrests :hihi:

LedZeppelin
16-09-2005, 20:29
Wouldn't surprise me if there were terrorists in Sheffield. If it can happen in Leeds then it can happen in any town where twisted, fanatical religious planks want to set about killing people.

Everyone and that means every faith should root out these people and drop on them like a ton of bricks for the scum they are.

It could've been anyone of us on the underground that day.
Your wives,husbands,children etc

Makes you think.

rubydazzler
16-09-2005, 20:33
IIRC, there was someone arrested from a flat on abbeydale road wasn't there, but that months ago, maybe even last year. There was explosives involved then. But I don't remember there ever being any follow-up?

Abdul
16-09-2005, 20:47
Originally posted by LedZeppelin
If it can happen in Leeds then it can happen in any town where twisted, fanatical religious planks want to set about killing people.

That's Leeds in a nutshell mate!

Although there's a fair number of Atheist psychotics up there too :suspect:

Don't forget there are loads of Mancs, and hundreds of homeless people too.

Leeds.. London of the North? Yeah right, for all the wrong reasons :roll:

Jimbob1989
16-09-2005, 20:52
Originally posted by LedZeppelin
Wouldn't surprise me if there were terrorists in Sheffield. If it can happen in Leeds then it can happen in any town where twisted, fanatical religious planks want to set about killing people.

Everyone and that means every faith should root out these people and drop on them like a ton of bricks for the scum they are.

It could've been anyone of us on the underground that day.
Your wives,husbands,children etc

Makes you think.

I seem to remember this muslim guy I know saying that one of the mosques in sheffield will supply recruitment tapes for extremist groups if they are asked for, but this was a while ago, before any London bombings. Pretty scary.

pete_fcs
16-09-2005, 20:57
Originally posted by Jimbob1989
I seem to remember this muslim guy I know saying that one of the mosques in sheffield will supply recruitment tapes for extremist groups if they are asked for, but this was a while ago, before any London bombings. Pretty scary.

if this is true then tell the police.

Jimbob1989
16-09-2005, 20:59
Originally posted by pete_fcs
if this is true then tell the police.

I told MI5 :thumbsup:

redrobbo
16-09-2005, 21:08
Originally posted by Jimbob1989
I seem to remember this muslim guy I know saying that one of the mosques in sheffield will supply recruitment tapes for extremist groups if they are asked for, but this was a while ago, before any London bombings. Pretty scary.

Oh yes, so "pretty scarey" that you feel you can tell the world about it on a forum website, but not "pretty scarey" enough it seems to share your "pretty scarey" information with the police. :suspect:

Isn't your behaviour odd? I suppose it isn't that odd really, when you only "seem to remember this muslim guy....saying....". Either you do, or you don't remember this conversation. Which is it? Make your mind up, or at least take your "pretty scarey" story to the police instead of just rumour mongering on this forum.

Jimbob1989
16-09-2005, 21:10
:clap: Clap for the noob, I did tell the authorities at the time, however it was a long time ago now. Plus, by scary, I mean its scary that it happens. Not that I'm scared of terrorists and extremists.

cgksheff
16-09-2005, 21:26
Did you finish that politics homework then, jimbob?

robbie
16-09-2005, 23:04
Originally posted by MeGe
One Property in Sheffield was searched on Wednesday, police said. Should we start afraid of who our neighbours are ? :o


cnn report :

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/16/britain.raids/index.html

mine are a group of students and an 85 year old woman.

youwhatref
17-09-2005, 09:52
Has anyone heard anymore. Last i heard was on the rad and that a local business was raided in the Darnall area.

Doesn't suprise me as any town or city with a large number of Muslims will come under the spotlight

cgksheff
17-09-2005, 15:55
It's finally turned up in T'Yorkshire Post (http://www.ypn.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1193828). Darnall it was!

ANTI-terror police have raided a Government-funded computer training centre in Yorkshire in an investigation into links with the July 7 suicide bombers, the Yorkshire Post can reveal.
The IT2 Home training facility, in Staniforth Road, Sheffield, which is part of the Learndirect network, was one of three premises raided in Yorkshire as part of inquiries into the terrorist attacks in London on July 7.
A team of forensic experts yesterday removed computer equipment from the centre in the Darnall area of the city, which has a large Muslim Asian population.
Sources have told the Yorkshire Post that the police are investigating the potential use of computers by the bombers in the run-up to the attacks in the capital.
The IT2 Home centre offers computer training and also acts as a community resource with easy access to the internet and email.
The raid in Sheffield is the first indication the bombers may have had regional links beyond their homes in West Yorkshire. Sources said terrorists can also try to deliberately distance themselves from their homes.
It is understood none of the trainees or managers are under suspicion. Learndirect operates a network of more than 2,000 online learning centres used by some 1.3 million people. It is funded by the Department for Education and Skills and run by the University of Industry, based in Sheffield.

Internetowl
17-09-2005, 16:44
the report I read today - one of the nationals - suggested that the centre was offering an anonomous email / web service to customers - obviously not that anonomous as they cottoned on to them - looks like the centre will lose its Learning Direct franchise and all the benefits that gives them.

Guest_225
17-09-2005, 20:03
Originally posted by rubydazzler
IIRC, there was someone arrested from a flat on abbeydale road wasn't there, but that months ago, maybe even last year. There was explosives involved then. But I don't remember there ever being any follow-up?

It was five years ago and the man in question lived in a flat above the DIY shop on Abbeydale road near the junction with Carterknowle. He was covicted of a plot to blow up the Christmas market in Strasbourg.

He had been planning to use the same chemicals used in the july London attacks -

"When special Branch officers raided the flat in Abbeydale Road, Sheffield, last year, what they found was chilling. Among the piles of extremist Islamic documents was a stash of chemicals. It was triacetone triperoxide (TATP) - an explosive favoured by suicide bombers. It is also the material that British shoebomber Richard Reid used as a detonating agent. The flat was Maroni's and the implication was clear: terrorists had been living in the heart of Sheffield."

The whole story in detail is at

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,1442,688014,00.html

Strix
19-09-2005, 00:11
.... But there was also sheffield connections with a suicide bomber somewhere 12/18 months ago :confused: wish I could remember where he was :suspect:

Strix
19-09-2005, 00:28
I think this is it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/3278633.stm

hj dary
19-09-2005, 05:52
I was in Darnall the morning after the raid and was working on Swale Gardens, out the back of the shop.

My customer told me that from tea time the previous day men in dark suits and police had been all over the shop and they were fetching computers and stuff out all night.

At about 08:30 when I left there was still plenty of activity in the shop and a policeman in a car outside, who had been there all night.

Because of recent events the first thing through my mind was terrorists but I spent the whole day hopeing it would turn out to be VAT fraud or something.

ttfn

Macca
19-09-2005, 08:22
Originally posted by Jimbob1989
And what attitude is that? I nearly lost a close friend in the first london attack. I don't see any problem with keeping your eyes open for suspicious activity. Maybe the people who lost their lives on the attacks would have been more aware if they were a little more suspicious.

However I can see the problems with people being too suspicious and not trusting their neighbours wrongly.

I think you answred your own question with the last paragraph of your post.

I agree with your first para though.

FYI I was in Kings Cross 2 mins before the bombs went off.

My cousin was on the top deck of the bus that was attacked, somehow she survived. However her work colleague (sat beside her) didn't.

rubydazzler
19-09-2005, 08:28
Originally posted by PottShrigley
It was five years ago and the man in question lived in a flat above the DIY shop on Abbeydale road near the junction with Carterknowle. He was covicted of a plot to blow up the Christmas market in Strasbourg.

Thanks PottShrigley ... how time flies ... :(

It's quite chilling to think that the threat has been around for so long. It does beg the question of how many other localised incidents there have been that we don't even know about. Lucky for everyone that british/german intelligence were on the ball. It's not clear whether this would have been a suicide stirke but I don't suppose they would have stopped at one attempt.

Internetowl
19-09-2005, 15:59
Update on the sheffield raid - the centre is going to stay shut for the forseeable future - al-qaeda south yorks will need to find a new host..

wolfman
21-09-2005, 14:04
You guys are seriously paranoid!
Since Sep 11th, there is a pattern emerging.

The Police carry out high profile raids, which make big headlines!
Several months later you see 2 lines on page 877 saying that the people had been released without charge.

When is the penny going to drop ?

Its like the story of the boy who cried wolf !

lol, intelligence ?