View Full Version : Speed Vans - Do they Flash and Which Way?
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 12:18 I was driving through Maltby at night and doing around 38 in a 30 zone. I'm not a maniac speeder. There was a speed van parked and hidden at the side of a petrol station and a camera was sat so many feet in front of it out on the pavement. I am positive that the camera didnt flash and i slowed down before it, but i am extremely worried that i didnt slow down quick enough therefore probably getting a fine and points. I really am hoping that they usually do flash (at night) to record speeders and hopefully take you from the back so you have to speed through the camera to be caught. Does anyone have any information on the cameras used by speed vans?
emperor_ming 16-09-2005, 12:22 I've seen them being used on the Parkway at night, they flash once the car has passed them, like a Gatso i guess.
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 12:24 I have seen speed cameras flash once the vehicle passes them taking a picture of their back registration plate, but I was unsure whether speed van cameras that are set up were used any differently. Anyone else have any information?
They only catch you if it flashes you, in your case you havent been caught, theres always next time lol
How can they flash once you've passed, as they're pointing towards you and thus can't see your rear number plate?
Not being smart here, it's a matter of some interest to me too. There's one that lurks on Chesterfield Road up near the Meadowhead roundabout!
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 12:28 I wondered that as well, but they only take your rear. You have to speed through them. On normal speed cameras, you have to be over the limit going past the camera. I was wondering if slowing down before the camera was still okay with a van. It definately didnt flash.
emperor_ming 16-09-2005, 12:38 Had a look on the internet, the type of camera we're talking about here is called a 'mini gatso'. We all know how its big brother works!
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 12:42 It says they use a radar to record speeding vehicles? Does that mean it would flash? Says its like a normal gatso which i know nothing about.
emperor_ming 16-09-2005, 12:45 Yep, Gatso uses radar to measure your speed once you pass the camera. Believe me, you'll know it if you get flashed (twice). Id say its pretty unlikely that you'll get a ticket landing on your door mat
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 12:49 It definately wasnt two flashes in a row. Fingers crossed!
Well just wait 14 days for a NIP.
If it does not appear, just forget about it.
MuteWitness 16-09-2005, 13:06 they dont always flash depends in they have set it up foward or rear facing, the one at meadowhead is normally rear facing but sometimes the one on the parkway is foward facing so it has got you before you see it. Type south yorkshire safety cameras into google and there website says where they are.
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 13:16 The permanant speed camera on the parkway is rear facing. I'm unsure what the speed van cameras are that sometimes park on there.
mobile cameras dont flash any more.& they face you on your side of the road.
they record your speed over distance driving toward the van & if you haven't been stooped around the corner the letter could be on the way.
Originally posted by willman
mobile cameras dont flash any more.& they face you on your side of the road.
they record your speed over distance driving toward the van & if you haven't been stooped around the corner the letter could be on the way.
That's what I thought.
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 13:28 Great. I'll just have to wait with baited breath and practically die of heart failure everytime i check the post.
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 14:28 If in the first two years of passing, how many points do you have to reach for your license to then be revoked? Its going to be two years this January :o
cgksheff 16-09-2005, 14:34 From 1 June 1997 new drivers have to retake (and pass) a driving test if they acquire 6 or more penalty points within 2 years of passing their first test. This means reverting to a provisional licence and having to comply with all the relevant restrictions eg L plates, accompanied driving etc.
From DVLA website.
the_rudeboy 16-09-2005, 14:46 Originally posted by willman
mobile cameras dont flash any more.& they face you on your side of the road.
they record your speed over distance driving toward the van & if you haven't been stooped around the corner the letter could be on the way.
Correct. I got caught on Halifax Road with no flash.
They aren't 'cameras' they are detectors and detect the speed as you approach by sending out a signal that is then reflected back off the approaching vehicle. (i think)
You might be lucky but i reckon you could be Ģ60 lighter and three points down. :(
JohnnyBoi 16-09-2005, 15:08 Well theres nothing i can do now apart from wait and see. I'll keep you all posted either way. If nothing comes within 14 days then I'll assume i wasn't caught.
Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
I was driving through Maltby at night and doing around 38 in a 30 zone. I'm not a maniac speeder. There was a speed van parked and hidden at the side of a petrol station and a camera was sat so many feet in front of it out on the pavement. I am positive that the camera didnt flash and i slowed down before it, but i am extremely worried that i didnt slow down quick enough therefore probably getting a fine and points. I really am hoping that they usually do flash (at night) to record speeders and hopefully take you from the back so you have to speed through the camera to be caught. Does anyone have any information on the cameras used by speed vans?
Did it look like this? (http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/radar11.htm)
Doesn't say if it can be used at night, but I don't imagine he was set up there bird watching.....
Wonder when we'll start seeing these (http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/gatso22.htm) :rolleyes:
Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
I was driving through Maltby at night and doing around 38 in a 30 zone. I'm not a maniac speeder. ...
I'm amazed you've not yet been flame grilled to a charcoal crisp by stating the above on this site. ;)
mega_monty 16-09-2005, 22:43 Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
I was driving through Maltby at night and doing around 38 in a 30 zone. I'm not a maniac speeder. There was a speed van parked and hidden at the side of a petrol station and a camera was sat so many feet in front of it out on the pavement.
Nice to see the speed camera partnership clocking up a nice bit of overtime
JohnnyBoi 21-09-2005, 17:09 I've heard nothing yet. I think from now until the end of next week is the crucial time where I would probably get something if i was caught. I HATE waiting for the postman every morning.
I was thinking about flaming, but then I thought, nah.
Why waste my time, when I can just laff at he hypocrasy and naivety that the original poster used.
It don't matter if your 2mph above the limit. Your breaking the law, just like druggies and theives. . . hehehe. .
JohnnyBoi 21-09-2005, 17:37 I think considering how many miles over the limit i was doing, would put me in a far lighter category than druggies and thieves, thanks. Laugh all you want, i hope it throws you off your Mr/Mrs Perfect highhorse.
Besides, even though i legally deserve a fine and points, doesnt mean i want them and i would rather go without thanks.
Makes no odds, breaking the law is breaking the law. . .
doesn't matter if you do it a bit or a lot. . your still doing something illegal and no matter how much you justify it. . your still a criminal. . .
. . p.s don't think im on a high horse, Im just pointing our the ammount of hypocrasy of joe public here. .
JohnnyBoi 21-09-2005, 17:53 I bet you download or have downloaded one single song at present or in the past. Thats illegal, therefore you can fit into the category as well.
hehehe. . . dude. . i smoke (not fags), download the occasional album and accept that both these activities are breaking the law. Full stop.
What I don't do, is think im only breaking the law a little bit or a lot or gauge at all the level of "criminality" at all. . .
Now do you see my point. . . ?
Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
I think considering how many miles over the limit i was doing, would put me in a far lighter category than druggies and thieves, thanks. Laugh all you want, i hope it throws you off your Mr/Mrs Perfect highhorse.
Besides, even though i legally deserve a fine and points, doesnt mean i want them and i would rather go without thanks.
considering the amount of miles over the limit you were doing could be the difference in if someone lived or dies if you had struck them then maybe you should think!!!
JohnnyBoi 10-10-2005, 18:29 Well nothing came through after all.
Pseudonym 10-10-2005, 19:18 Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
Well nothing came through after all.
Congratulations! :)
Read through this (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63932&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) thread to pick up hints on how to beat the illegitimate sons of she-dogs otherwise known as 'The Safety Camera Partnership', in future! ;)
johnnyboi,
i was done on bawtry road in wickersley. No flash, didn't even see the camera. It wasn't the fixed ones up near the tanyard, it was hiding just beyond where they've out the new traffic lights in. Be warned. i was doing 44mph in a 40mph.
Originally posted by SHsheff
How can they flash once you've passed, as they're pointing towards you and thus can't see your rear number plate?
Not being smart here, it's a matter of some interest to me too. There's one that lurks on Chesterfield Road up near the Meadowhead roundabout!
I would doubt that they flash towards you as this could leave the police opern to the accusation of causing an accident.I think it is more likely that they track your rate of progress towards them by a seiries of infa red "shots" then snap yer rear plate as you pass. Also, the one that is on the parkway is possibly parked illegally, clearway - no stopping except in auth. places ie layby's.Ther is also one that parks on the pavement just down from city rd cem. This my also be breaking the law by blocking the pavement and this is an urban clearway with no parking or unloading restrictions in place. phew!
JohnnyBoi 16-10-2005, 07:28 WELL, now that the speed camera farce is over, i did have an accident in my car on the Ecclesall road roundabout. I was wanting to go straight on from Ecclesall road so i was in the left lane. It was yesterday so very busy. The middle lane was more or less packed with traffic and a car was wanting to take the left exit so he decided to pull out so he could use my lane to drive up. Unfortunately i had already set off when he changed his position and he went into the side of me. Have contacted insurance company but neither of us is admitting liability. Will have to see what they say when they decide who was at fault.
The van on the parkway was occasionally on the verge after the manor park turn off with the rear doors open, it had to be checking oncoming traffic as the road bends right away from the van as you pass. It wouldn't flash as you can't flash into someone's eyes!
emperor_ming 16-10-2005, 17:01 Originally posted by Rob_1
The van on the parkway was occasionally on the verge after the manor park turn off with the rear doors open, it had to be checking oncoming traffic as the road bends right away from the van as you pass. It wouldn't flash as you can't flash into someone's eyes!
Rob, im familiar with that bad boy on the parkway. I've seen it flash numerous times once a speeding car has past it (when im driving the other way). Its usually out after dark making it pretty easy to see!
darkstardust 17-10-2005, 11:40 Originally posted by JohnnyBoi
I have seen speed cameras flash once the vehicle passes them taking a picture of their back registration plate, but I was unsure whether speed van cameras that are set up were used any differently. Anyone else have any information?
The vans do not flash - they record 0.5 secs IIRC on video tape of you moving and itīs used along with the radar data in court should you contest it...
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