im going to go for judas priest still cranking it up today:)

I can't pick just one 'cos it depends on what my mood is and day to day my mood varies ;) Yesterday was Iron Maiden cos I was listening to them while I was painting and today I've been listening to G 'n' R.
So I'll have to wait till I get up tmrw morning to see what my fave band is then :thumbsup:
Could turn out to be Roy Orbison for all I know, I got his greatest hits CD :thumbsup:

Just for fun... "The young ones" (Bad news...)??? did or can anyone remember them playing at Donnington Monsters Of Rock... in the 80s.....:gag:

Iron Maiden are the british monsters of metal....:cool:

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Originally posted by LellyBee
Could turn out to be Roy Orbison for all I know, I got his greatest hits CD :thumbsup:

I too like roy orbison, ive found that as ive got a little older my moods for music have changed a little...when i was younger it had to be metal/rock/loud.... but now i still love metal - Maiden, ozzy, saxon, korn etc.... but also like Some Mel c, Evanescence, (amy lee):love: ....But im addicted to Anastacia....or is it her Assets.....?:D
Am i ill or is it just mellowing with age....? elp?:gag: :suspect: do i need a doctor.......medication......:cry: :cry:

Originally posted by madowl


Iron Maiden are the british monsters of metal....:cool:

I will have to go along with that. I am listening to "The Trooper" at the mo. Saxon come a close second IMO.

Busted or Mcfly. I just can't decide

probably iron maiden.... black sabbath before 1980... slade if you count them as metal (they did have a metal phase early eighties!)

:)

Originally posted by madowl
Just for fun... "The young ones" (Bad news...)??? did or can anyone remember them playing at Donnington Monsters Of Rock... in the 80s.....:gag:

Iron Maiden are the british monsters of metal....:cool:

Yep,Saw Bad News At Both Donington In '86,And The At The City Hall In '87 (Still Got The Shirts To Prove It).They Were Good Enough For A Laugh.

Agree With Ya Though-Maiden Are STILL The Best In The Business.:thumbsup:

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Iron Maiden are the british monsters of metal....:cool: [/B]

Ya got my vote there :thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup:

Led Zep. No contest, really.

See, now you've gone and reminded me of another one that I like, especially Freebird :thumbsup:

Motorhead...............................

I like a little of.....

http://www.twistedsister.com/cds/images/bighits.jpg

http://www.hallamfmarena.co.uk/events/EventDetails.asp?Event=562

anyone else going....?

Zep were never a 'Metal' band - Please! I never liked Judas or Iron Maiden - No substance. Sabbath in the early days were amazing. I saw then get blown off at the City Hall by Van Halen.

Scorpions, Ac Dc, Budgie, Frank Marino, Deep Purple ....

In order to answer this I'll need to define 'heavy metal'.

According to Dictionary.com 'heavy metal' is "Music. Very loud, brash rock music, often with shouted, violent lyrics." So that counts out the likes of Journey, Boston, Thunder and Bon Jovi.

It then goes on to state: "loud and harsh sounding rock music with a strong beat; lyrics usually involve violent or fantastic imagery" - not really Led Zep. That's pushing more for Maiden, AC/DC, Megadeth and Metallica.

Reference.com defines it as: "Metal is a genre of music that derives from rock and electric blues, with great use of wah-wah, distorted guitars and loudy bass."

"Metal music has a number of subgenres, as there are for rock music as whole, and the classification of each is often times difficult. Heavy metal is the progenitor, but the genre includes black metal, death metal, thrash metal, progressive metal, industrial metal, speed metal, power metal and others. Other subgenres aren't considered by many critics to be part of metal music, but others consider them a full component of metal. Those genres are hair metal, glam metal, and nu metal, among others."

Hair metal.....I ask you!

Well, I guess these definitions do narrow down the options.

Having just got in from DJing the Casbah, I'm unwinding hence the lengthy drivel above, however I think these definitions spiral me more towards AC/DC with Maiden coming in a close second.

For me it's got to be metallica :headbang: followed by maiden..

Originally posted by honeyplanet
For me it's got to be metallica :headbang: followed by maiden..

well said...

Metallica followed my maiden... :headbang:

there is no definitive best metal band, there lots of good ones, there is never a best of anything...

that said some of the best are AC/DC, Maiden, Metallica, The Cult?

Not sure on The Cult as their music vary's a fair bit, then again so does Maiden and Metallica... think AC/DC are the only band that haven't done soft melodic tracks... therefore I would propose AC/DC as the best?

for newer real metal check out Hammerfall, they damn well rock :D

Originally posted by Bloomdido
Zep were never a 'Metal' band - Please! I never liked Judas or Iron Maiden - No substance. Sabbath in the early days were amazing. I saw then get blown off at the City Hall by Van Halen.

Scorpions, Ac Dc, Budgie, Frank Marino, Deep Purple ....

Zep were the first ever metal band. metal may have changed but they were there first.

steppenwolf were the first to use the words `heavy metal' and from there on it was created :)


heavy metal to me is heavier then classic rock (ac dc, led zep, whitesnake etc..)..basically heavy/fast riffs and also stuff that your parents wouldnt like! id prob say black sabbath were first heavy metal band to be that popular...but i maybe wrong.

(Heavy metal is a form of music characterised by aggressive, driving rhythms and highly amplified distorted guitars)

id class bands like sabbath, priest, iron maiden, pantera, metallica etc as heavy metal.....and id pick judas priest...they are the only band to get HEAVIER!.... sadly last album was dull and a rehash of painkiller but done badly.

Fear Factory, early Slayer and Roots-era Sepultura for me.

Fear Factory = industrial
Slayer = thrash
Sepultura ... not sure what I'd classify them as but they're not "heavy metal", but they are heavy hmm

Originally posted by xafier
Fear Factory = industrial

NIN, Godflesh and Ministry are supposed to be Industrial. None of these 4 bands are really alike.

All these sub-categories are ridiculous. Metal is getting as bad as dance music for that. Someone described their band to me once as "a bit of sludge, maybe grindcore, very thrashy". What absolute bolllokks.

Originally posted by Agent Gypo
All these sub-categories are ridiculous. Metal is getting as bad as dance music for that. Someone described their band to me once as "a bit of sludge, maybe grindcore, very thrashy". What absolute bolllokks.

too true..any1 that puts EVERY band into its own genre should be thrashed.....ohh what a pun!

but I can't see AC/DC, Van Halen, Scorpions as anything other than rock music.

I don't really think heavy metal exists anymore apart from old men trawling around in old bands....

Originally posted by madowl
I like a little of.....

http://www.twistedsister.com/cds/images/bighits.jpg

http://www.hallamfmarena.co.uk/events/EventDetails.asp?Event=562

anyone else going....?

Oh yes i'm going to that one for sure :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

For me Maiden are my greatest as they were the band that got me into 'heavy metal'

Maiden, then Metallica for me :headbang:
The last Metallica album was a massive disapointment.

Originally posted by owlsman
Maiden, then Metallica for me :headbang:
The last Metallica album was a massive disapointment.

Metallica have been a massive disappointment since trying to follow up Master of Puppets.

....but they've lasted, as have many metal bands. They've got the staying power that the chart bands of today don't have.

Originally posted by Agent Gypo
NIN, Godflesh and Ministry are supposed to be Industrial. None of these 4 bands are really alike.

All these sub-categories are ridiculous. Metal is getting as bad as dance music for that. Someone described their band to me once as "a bit of sludge, maybe grindcore, very thrashy". What absolute bolllokks.

I think you'll find that there aren't that many catagories and they do have differing musical styles, theres a big difference between the synthisizing, keyboards etc with NIN and the raw musical instruments of Iron Maiden...

of course there's different genre's, otherwise its like saying pop is kinda like rock just different in a few areas so its all the same :P

whats the point debating whats the best "metal" band if were going to mention other genre's then say that genre's don't matter? thats just pointless debating!

and as to whoever said Metallica's latest album was a dissapointment, personally its actually grown on me, it's a nice jump back to thrash which they left for a few albums... same with Megadeth, they went softer and now gone back to some better thrash/metal :)

Originally posted by robbie
Busted or Mcfly. I just can't decide

Since when are Busted and McFly considered to be Heavy Metal? Busted especially are a crap Madness rip off aimed at the teeny bopper market... McFly just plain suck.

Originally posted by Rich
Since when are Busted and McFly considered to be Heavy Metal? Busted especially are a crap Madness rip off aimed at the teeny bopper market... McFly just plain suck.

How dare you say Mcfly suck, they are the heaviest band I have heard in my life.....rock on Mcfly :headbang: :headbang: ;) I cried when busted slpit up :(

Iron Maiden and Metallica for me. :thumbsup: I'd say Maiden first because I don't like Metallica's recent stuff as much.

It's got to be Thin Lizzy.
Noone beats Phil Lynott's amazingly haunting voice.

:headbang:

as i said at the start of this thread priest are only one of a few bands who could call themselves out and out heavy metal maiden are flying the flag at the moment and are quite possibly going to break the usa again (thanks sharon)

other bands what i like that could be passed off as metal are

venom didnt really like them in the early days but then again thrash /death metal had not been invented yet

scorpions where a exellent band before THAT SONG best remembering there good stuff before 1990

black sabbath still as heavy as **** always liked them and always will

pantera try and forget they started off as a glam metal band and delight in the sabbath style riffs very classy

metallica still cut it live but on cd not very impressive at all the last album had 2 or 3 good songs but the rest was under produced rubbish

to be continued:)

I'd probably vote Pantera, Or Maiden.... But there has been some cracking Heavy Metal bands over the years, and some nice new upcoming talent.

As for Metallica, I think whoever stole Lars Ulrich's snare and replaced it with a roses tin should be executed on site. Or maybe we should just execute Metallica, all this fuss about people stealing music, then producing St Anger where the pure crapness of it would put anyone off stealing it, never mind buying it.

I dont think I could pin it down really, to many bands that have come and gone, and some that are still around producing some fantastic music. Mixing the heavy metal genre into other styles, and coming out with some brilliant ideas.

Joel

Staying off the old favourites like Sabbath etc., my two tips of the moment have got to be Voivod (French-Canadian, originally thrashy in the mid-80s, improved beyond all measure in the early 90s, regressed in the late 90s, returned reinvigorated with ex-Metallica Jason Newsted on bass last year) and Opeth (Scandinavian death metal meets prog done in a very classy way which means it isn't the disaster it would be if almost anybody else did it).

oh I damn well agree with metalman on Opeth they're absolutly fantastic! :D

Also in terms of more orchestral instrumental metal try Arjen Anthony Lucassen's "band" called "Star One"... slightly heavier and more pure metal than his band "Ayreon"... absolutly fantastic composer/song writer :D

The 'Tallica boys are still the best.

Metallica probably, first metal band I ever got into.

They have a brilliant live music site, downloads aren't expensive plus you can actually get them as FLAC, i.e. lossless :D Why can't Apple and other companies do lossless in these days of cheap hard drives :)

Prog metal- Dream Theater.

Has to be Metallica, pure class!

Second are Busted.

Its a toss up between Saxon and Iron Maiden

How about Helloween - classic "Keeper" albums apart there's still plenty of excellent stuff - and yes, that includes Pink Bubbles Go Ape.

May not qualify as strictly heavy metal but still rather good all the same - UFO, Symphony X, Ayreon (or anything else that Lucassen touches), Uriah Heep.

Did anyone see Heep at the Leadmill in November?

Originally posted by Nostatic
How about Helloween - classic "Keeper" albums apart there's still plenty of excellent stuff - and yes, that includes Pink Bubbles Go Ape.
i picked up that album after a bit of hype in reviews and such and i personally think there whole back catalouge is a bit pap.

I just looked on my media player and i have about 15 songs and i have only voted 1 of them 4/5 which is the song 'hey lord'

standard euro rock in my mind.

but queensryche are just as bad.

Iron maden, Judas preast, metallica, Motley Crew, Kiss

I don't know really, I find it hard to know what bands are what genre sometimes, there are too many genres. But I like a bit of most bands mentioned.

I totally disagree with anyone who says AC/DC is heavy metal.

They are a rock or heavy rock band.

Led Zep are not heavy metal either.

Heavy metal are bands like Iron Maiden, Priest, Early Sabbath, Extreme, G'N'R, Faster Pussycat, Helloween, Love/Hate, Yngwie, Manowar, Megadeth, Ozzy, Ratt,

etc..

Generally fast guitar based music which is not blues based.
Heavy rock is where almost all material is based upon 12 bar blues.

My friends and I came up with a straight forward definition of the difference between a true heavy metal riff and a true heavy rock riff back in the late 1980s.

A true heavy metal riff is the main riff in the verse of Welcome to the jungle. It tends toward desending down the musical scale and even better it is played on a guitar which is tuned down one semitone or sometimes more..

A true heavy rock riff is "whole Lotta rosie" or "riff raff" by AC/DC they are short and don't go up or down much at all.

I am not saying that Metal bands don't play rock riffs, but rock bands don't play many metal riffs.

For me Maiden and Saxon are the best exponents of heavy metal.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I totally disagree with anyone who says AC/DC is heavy metal.

They are a rock or heavy rock band.

Led Zep are not heavy metal either.

Heavy metal are bands like Iron Maiden, Priest, Early Sabbath, Extreme, G'N'R, Faster Pussycat, Helloween, Love/Hate, Yngwie, Manowar, Megadeth, Ozzy, Ratt,

etc..

Generally fast guitar based music which is not blues based.
Heavy rock is where almost all material is based upon 12 bar blues.

My friends and I came up with a straight forward definition of the difference between a true heavy metal riff and a true heavy rock riff back in the late 1980s.

A true heavy metal riff is the main riff in the verse of Welcome to the jungle. It tends toward desending down the musical scale and even better it is played on a guitar which is tuned down one semitone or sometimes more..

A true heavy rock riff is "whole Lotta rosie" or "riff raff" by AC/DC they are short and don't go up or down much at all.

I am not saying that Metal bands don't play rock riffs, but rock bands don't play many metal riffs.

For me Maiden and Saxon are the best exponents of heavy metal.

agree with most of that....but slash's playing is very blues based and i wouldnt ever call them heavy metal, and extreme if anything are funk based!..with a bit of van halen thrown in.

Heavy metal for me means older type metal that came somewhere after heavy rock, so for me it'd have to be Iron Maiden, Diamond Head. Metallica maybe count as heavy metal but they're thrash really (or they were until it all went wrong in the mid 90's). Other favourites that are kind of heavy metal but have moved on a bit: Deftones, One Minute Silence, Pitchshifter.

Oh yeah, and Anthrax.

Metallica (pre S&M)
Megadeth
Pantera
Slayer
Anthrax
Sepultura
Soulfly
And I don't know if you would class these as "heavy metal", but:
Joe Satriani
Steve Vai
Yngwie Malmsteen
More "Shred" than "Heavy Metal" I suppose?:confused:

MOTORHEAD

been going since the 70s
never split up, even tho theyve had line up changes
still as loud and dirty as ever
funny as hell
lemmy doesnt give a ****
lemmy should rightly be dead but he isnt

oh yeah and i forgot some classic tunes and albums

Originally posted by MTheo
agree with most of that....but slash's playing is very blues based and i wouldnt ever call them heavy metal, and extreme if anything are funk based!..with a bit of van halen thrown in.

Yes I agree with you totally.
I always counted the early Guns 'N' Roses as a sort of punky heavy rock band. And of course Mr Slash is a fine blues guitarist, as anyone can hear from his snakepit.

My point about them was the main riff of Welcome to the Jungle is a perfect Heavy Metal Riff


Thrash for me is represented by bands who play fast rhythm parts and use a "thrash" guitar sound, usually nowadays with a dual rectifier guitar amp.

I would always consider earlier Metallica, Anthrax, Sepultura, etc. . Thrash Metal bands, even though Metallica insisted they were not thrash but "heavy metal".

Originally posted by muddycoffee
Yes I agree with you totally.
I always counted the early Guns 'N' Roses as a sort of punky heavy rock band. And of course Mr Slash is a fine blues guitarist, as anyone can hear from his snakepit.

My point about them was the main riff of Welcome to the Jungle is a perfect Heavy Metal Riff

well gnr did have 2 or 3 proper punks in their ranks over the years

re:- welcome to the jungle - have you heard richard cheeses version on his new album apertiff for destruction (takes punk, metal, rap, indie, dance songs and turns em into lounge jazz versions)

Originally posted by melthebell
re:- welcome to the jungle - have you heard richard cheeses version on his new album apertiff for destruction (takes punk, metal, rap, indie, dance songs and turns em into lounge jazz versions)

No but I have heard Beatallica.

Which is a band which fuses the songs of the beatles with the music and image of Metallica.
It is very clever, and could be as much fun to see as the wonderful Hayseed Dixie.

Listen to some of these ! (http://www.beatallica.org/beatallica.html)
WARNING SOME BAD LANGUAGE in some of the songs..

:clap:

Just had another listen and 'tis pure genius

Originally posted by melthebell
well gnr did have 2 or 3 proper punks in their ranks over the years

re:- welcome to the jungle - have you heard richard cheeses version on his new album apertiff for destruction (takes punk, metal, rap, indie, dance songs and turns em into lounge jazz versions)

i've got a few richard cheese songs but havent got that one... i love his take on white zombies 'more human than human'

Don't know if you'd class them as heavy metal exactly, but Rage Against The Machine take some beating. They sounded wicked, mixed rock and rap years before almost anyone else (1991!) and had real political messages to boot. Shame they split, but Audioslave ain't bad either. Do miss Zach's vocals though.

Opeth (Deliverance) or Drowning Pool (Sinner) have to be two great albums.

:)

As someone said earlier in the thread metal/rock is just full of sub genres. So although the more picky ones amongst you will jump on my back and say "thats not metal its this...." (You get the picture???) i will just say what i like and will be happy with it:D BTW if you want to class a band as metal then surely Judas Priest are the only ones who can be considered a heavy metal band with their album British Steel? Get it? I'll get my coat....

My favourite bands of the *moment* (i use that term loosley). Which really means what i'm listening too on IPOD and in the car:-

All time favourites Slayer & Pantera. Though Arch Enemy are climbing the list quickly. Can never stop listening to these bands. And i'm getting back into Metallica at the moment after a long break. Everything since Load has a lot to answer for:evil:

Then we have bands eveyone loves like ACDC, G'N'R, Motley Crue.

Bands i like to "go back to" or 're-discoveries' now and again like Machine Head, Anthrax, Soulfly, Sepultura. Been listening to lot of Misfits lately too!

Bands when i'm down and like the darker stuff like Type O Negative and Sisters of Mercy. I would never make a good goth.

Recent discoveries like Dark Tranquility. Awsome at Corp on 5/12. Maybe i should start listening to more Swedish/Nordic death metal too. Anyone know where nearest church is?

There are loads more to add but since this one message has taken the best part of 15 minutes to do.....suddenly i cant be bothered to try and sound sophisticatd by dreaming up any obscure bands.

hmmm, looking back through my post i've not really contributed anything really thats in relation to the thread:suspect:

I'll go back to lurking:D