http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/14/texas.execution.ap/index.html

well if she didnt do it who did ?

heres the charge sheet

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/statistics/deathrow/drowlist/newton.jpg

Serves her bloody right! No sympathy from me at all.

She shot her husband and two kids... she deserves the electric chair not some frigging injection.

'If you cant do the time- dont do the crime'

Originally posted by ANGELUS
Serves her bloody right! No sympathy from me at all.

She shot her husband and two kids... she deserves the electric chair not some frigging injection.

'If you cant do the time- dont do the crime'

But maybe she really was innocent. You never know. This is one reason why I feel that the death penalty doesnt work. Theres too much room for error, Even if that error is just 0.01% its still an error and that can be an innocent person getting sent to death.

Originally posted by spyro2000
But maybe she really was innocent. You never know. This is one reason why I feel that the death penalty doesnt work. Theres too much room for error, Even if that error is just 0.01% its still an error and that can be an innocent person getting sent to death.

the thing what clinches her guilt imo is the fact she took out an insurance policy a few days (or weeks previously) and that she had a gun , i notice she declined to have a final word , now if that was me and i was innocent ii would not stay silent

Originally posted by panda79
the thing what clinches her guilt imo is the fact she took out an insurance policy a few days (or weeks previously) and that she had a gun , i notice she declined to have a final word , now if that was me and i was innocent ii would not stay silent


Im not disagreeing with you, She probably is guilty. Im just saying that probably isnt good enough when it comes to someones life. And as a final word, I doubt it would have made a difference to her being killed, plus who knows what goes through your head when you are just about to be put to sleep.

Originally posted by spyro2000
Im not disagreeing with you, She probably is guilty. Im just saying that probably isnt good enough when it comes to someones life. And as a final word, I doubt it would have made a difference to her being killed, plus who knows what goes through your head when you are just about to be put to sleep.

Yer she might be guilty but i don't think it's right there must be other ways of dealing with people like her

Quite, unless you are in a particular situation you are not qualified to say 'I would have done this, or, I would not have done that'. We are always the experts aren't we.
What makes me laugh is that with all the tragedy occurring in the state right now, old GB, the Texacutioner still finds time to sign a death warrant. You think he would be focusing more on saving people rather than murdering them.

Panda, can you imagine if this woman was YOUR daughter and you had to stand by and watch the state execute her?

Originally posted by Babooshka
Panda, can you imagine if this woman was YOUR daughter and you had to stand by and watch the state execute her?

i would be upset without doubt but seeing as we dont have the death penalty ill never be in that positon

Originally posted by panda79
i would be upset without doubt but seeing as we dont have the death penalty ill never be in that positon

NIMBY

fair enough :thumbsup:

I saw somewhere recently , either in the Telegrph or the Spectator that since 1965 , when the death penalty was abolished , of those people who were serving , "Life " and released on parole , about 130 had committed a murder again .
That's about an average of 2 per year . How many people were hung by mistake in the 40 years before 1965 ? Not 130 !
I never seem to see much sympathy from the abolitionists for families who lose relatives to , ' 2nd. time -round ' murderers . I wonder why ?
Have they used up all their sympathy for the killers who are executed lawfully ?

It is fair enough but just beause you personally will never be in the situation does not mean that you should ignore how other parents would feel. There is no doubt you would be upset. I think the word upset is a major understatement. I think you would want to do everything in your power to see that your baby is not executed.
There is also a solution to ex-cons reoffending...and that is not letting them out of prison!

Originally posted by Fareast
I saw somewhere recently , either in the Telegrph or the Spectator that since 1965 , when the death penalty was abolished , of those people who were serving , "Life " and released on parole , about 130 had committed a murder again .
That's about an average of 2 per year . How many people were hung by mistake in the 40 years before 1965 ? Not 130 !
I never seem to see much sympathy from the abolitionists for families who lose relatives to , ' 2nd. time -round ' murderers . I wonder why ?
Have they used up all their sympathy for the killers who are executed lawfully ?

I was going to mention that. Best option in my mind to avoid the "Difficulties" associated with the death penalty is simple. Life means life for murder, no parole or chance or release with them being held in spartan conditions. No TV's, visitors etc.

Clean, simple justice for the guilty. If it turns out they are innocent (Which I can't believe happens that often by the way) then at least they can carry on with their life.

I met a man last year who was incarcerated in America on death row for 22 years. The day before his execution DNA proved his innocence. He is now a free man. Thank HEAVENS!!!!!!!!!!

At the end of the day, no justice system is fool proof, therefore it is wrong to put anyone to death, no matter how compelling the evidence may be. Just lock them up for life I say.

Think there is a website somewhere which talks all about it.

www.kerrymaxcook.com

Originally posted by Babooshka
I met a man last year who was incarcerated in America on death row for 22 years.

How did you meet him?

Did you write to him on Death Row or summat :|

I work voluntarily for an organisation that befriends death row prisoners. He was not my penfriend. Someone else is. I met him at a conference that was held last year (or year before, cant remember!)

www.lifelines.org