Meadow Street S3 - Anyone got any memories? [Archive]

mojoworking

12-01-2004, 00:08

I was born on Meadow Street close to the junction of St. Philips Road. It was demolished in 1959 as part of the slum clearance. I remember Hudson's newsagents (which remained there for many years). It was (I think) run by Joe Hudson in the 50s. We used to buy fireworks there in Oct/Nov. Next door to Hudson's was Gebhardts butchers/deli where you could buy the best pork balm cakes I ever tasted. I recall there was a French-style cast iron urinal in the middle of the road at one end of Meadow Street. It was just a short stroll down Scotland Street and you were at West Bar and then into the City Centre. Other landmarks were the Royal Infirmary and Upperthorpe library

herbiegrass

12-01-2004, 20:08

Thanks for the reply MOJOWORKING.

We were the last family to move from there in 1969, We were offered a place on the then new KELVIN FLATS but I had two young brothers and my Mother said there was nowhere for them to play, so we exchanged for a house on PARSON CROSS.

The entry to our yard was bang opposite the urinal you mentioned, between WRAYS BUTCHERS and BISHOP AND SONS PRINTERS.

As I mentiond in my original posting RAY HUDSON ( JOE'S SON ) has a newsagent shop on the site of his dad's old one, ( I have photo's of it )

It would be nice to hear of any more memories you have if you have the time, or if you have anything to ask me, please feel free to do so.

All the best.
Brian.

mojoworking

13-01-2004, 06:44

Hi Brian,
There are some great old photos of Meadow Street on the Picture Sheffied site. I've found 18 pics at this URL: http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/hpac.pl
There's even one of the famous urinal we've discussed!
Do you remember Port Mahon? I always get confused as to exactly where it was in releation to Meadow Street. I remember my mum would always talk about going shopping on Port Mahon and assumed it was located between Meadow and Scotand streets. But I could be wrong

mojoworking

13-01-2004, 06:51

Apologies, I've just realised that the URL doesn't work until you're actually in the website. So go to
http://www.picturesheffield.com/database_search.php
and then the first URL should work. If not, simply do a seach on Meadow Street

herbiegrass

13-01-2004, 21:48

MOJOWORKING

Thanks for the link,
Some photo's I haven't seen on there.
as for the PORT MAHON it was actually NETHERTHORPE PLACE,
this is where the port mahon post office was situated, so you were guessing the wrong end of meadow street.

Thanks again and take care.

Bri.

mojoworking

14-01-2004, 07:03

Hi Brian,
Are you aware of the book that's available about the area around Meadow Street? It was written by a man who grew up in Martin Street in the 40s/50s. It basically describes his day to day life as a kid and is very funny in parts. It's still on sale in Sheffield, I believe. Let me know if you want more details. BTW, if you do a search on Netherthorpe place in the Picture Sheffied site, there's a great photo of Hudson's Newagents in the 50s

herbiegrass

14-01-2004, 20:33

MOJOWORKING

Yes I saw the photo, but it is one I already have in my collection.
when was the last time you saw the area, as it has changed so much over the years. The MEADOW STREET HOTEL is still there, and GEBHARDS building beside where Joe's used to be.

if you would like to see some of my photo's I shall be happy to send them.

Brian.

mojoworking

14-01-2004, 23:44

Hi Brian,
I drove through the area briefly in 1991. Apart from that, I haven't been there since the late 70s. I'd love to see your photos. Re. the book I mentioned. It's called Weerz Me Dad? by Fred Pass

Banksia

21-02-2004, 22:47

Originally posted by mojoworking
I was born in Watery Lane which ran off Meadow Street close to the junction of St. Philips Road. It was demolished in 1959 as part of the slum clearance. I remember Hudson's newsagents (which remained there for many years). It was (I think) run by Joe Hudson in the 50s. We used to buy fireworks there in Oct/Nov. Next door to Hudson's was Gebhardts butchers/deli where you could buy the best pork balm cakes I ever tasted. I recall there was a French-style cast iron urinal in the middle of the road at one end of Meadow Street. It was just a short stroll down Scotland Street and you were at West Bar and then into the City Centre. Other landmarks were the Royal Infirmary and Upperthorpe library

My Aunt and Uncle lived at the top of Watery Lane. My cousins are named Carol and John Sherwin, ring any bells ?

herbiegrass

25-02-2004, 23:36

Thanks for your post Banksia,

I could'nt believe it when I saw the name of my best mate John.
I have'nt seen him since we left in 1969 and over the last few years I have been wondering what became of him, as I have been putting together a little book on my life back then, and he is included.
I am sure if you mention a three wheeler bike and The royal Infirmary to him he will remember me.

Please get in touch again soon.

Herbie.

Banksia

26-02-2004, 07:03

Originally posted by herbiegrass
Thanks for your post Banksia,

I could'nt believe it when I saw the name of my best mate John.
I have'nt seen him since we left in 1969 and over the last few years I have been wondering what became of him, as I have been putting together a little book on my life back then, and he is included.
I am sure if you mention a three wheeler bike and The royal Infirmary to him he will remember me.

Please get in touch again soon.

Herbie.

I will be in touch as soon as I have any news on John's whereabouts. Glad I made your day !

Bushbaby

01-03-2004, 17:03

My mate Wilf Croft used to live in a shop at number 95. They sold clothes and many other things. Maybe what we used to call a haberdasheray. This was late 60s

herbiegrass

16-03-2004, 21:13

YES, I REMEMBER "CROFTY" HIS SON WAS ALSO CALLED WILF.
I LOVED GOING IN HIS SHOP AS IT WAS ALWAYS PILED TO THE RAFTERS WITH STUFF, ALL THE TOYS ON THE LEFT SIDE UP ON A BIG SHELF AND STACKED UNDERNEATH, THE COUNTER WAS NEARLY THE LENGTH OF THE SHOP BUT YOU COULD ONLY SEE CROFTY NEAR THE TOP END WITH ALL THE STUFF PILED UP.

ANYONE REMEMBER NETHERTHORPE PLACE?
BAKERY,HILL'S HERBALIST,BENTLEY'S,TAYLORS.

herbiegrass

28-04-2004, 21:50

ESTHER'S SWEET SHOP, NUMBER SIX, WOODBINES.
JUSODA,AZTEC BARS AND MY FAVORITE CHOC STICKS? REMEMBER THEM?
A CHOC STICK AND A GLASS OF JUSODA FOR SIXPENCE, OH HAPPY DAY'S.

OLD COMICS FROM JIMMY PEACOCKS, GO AND FEED HIS HORSE IN THE YARD.

JUMPERS FOR GOALPOSTS.

"GET DOWN MY GRATE AND LET ME IN, AN I'LL GI THI THREEPENCE, AS I'VE LOCKED MISSEN AHT"

"GO ON THEN"

JIMMY PEACOCK, WITH HIS HORSE AND CART,
CAP ON HIS HEAD, COAT FALLING APART.
SELLING OLD COMICS A PENNY FOR TWO,
A BEANO,A DANDY A TOPPER WILL DO.

herbiegrass

17-09-2004, 21:42

Anyone remember BENTLEY'S hardware shop at the bottom of netherthorpe street?
he used to have glass shelves hanging from string against the inside of his big window, and on it were ornaments etc, me and my mate John Sherwin used to bang the glass and make the ornaments fall off. (naughty,naughty)

and just up from there on the opposite side was Hills herbalist Chemist, I used to love the smell from that shop, parma violets, and other fragrant things in jars.

Jacksons, Hopkinsons, Baldwins, Bryans and best of all Joe Hudsons Newsagent, you could buy Jusoda in a small glass bottle and he used to keep two in his ice cream freezer for me and Sherwin.( we would go in and ask him to freeze us two bottles, then go back an hour later and get them) only one day we forgot to go back, and as we were walking past the next day Joe came to the door and played merry hell with us as they had exploded in his freezer and he had to get all the broken glass out, "don't ever ask me to freeze pop for you anymore" he said.

I would like to here your tales of this area around the sixties.

hazel

18-09-2004, 08:32

hi

i think my mom used to take me shopping on meadow st. there was a grocer's shop that sold loose butter which the assistant used to pat into shape with 2 wooden bats a bit like tennis raquets. broken biscuits too and lemonade crystals are my memories of meadow st.

docmel

18-09-2004, 13:08

Hi

I used to live on St Phillips Rd from 1953 to about 1963. We had the off license diagonally opposite the White Hart pub.

things I remember about Meadow Street? The 'pork' shop, one or two hardware shops - always had their stuff on show outside on the pavement and inside the strong smell of soap and paraffin. The gents metal toilet in the middle of the road. Fruit and Veg guy with his horse and cart (Joe Peacock?) Melias shop on the corner. The huge (at least it seemed to a kid) Zion Chapel. The walk into town on Scotland street with the smell and noise of all the engineering comapnies. The great fish and chip shop on St Phillips Road just above Meadow Street. Netherthorpe Infants School.....

herbiegrass

23-09-2004, 20:53

Hi docmel,
We lived down the entry at the side of the butchers shop. Wrays, he had sawdust on his floor and pigs hung from hooks on a metal rail in his doorway.
at the other side of our entry was Bishop and sons printers it carried on round the corner onto netherthorpe street.

Did you used to go in the Meadow for a pint? you might have known my Grandad, Albert Wharton and my Gran Annie.

depoix

30-09-2004, 15:02

think ray has sold the shop now balieve an asion bloke has it,area gone down nick now its the red light district accross the the road from the meadow pub

Tony

30-09-2004, 15:18

Ah, but that's all going to change!

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/index.asp?pgid=34286

herbiegrass

30-09-2004, 20:25

The area went down the nick in the 60's when they started demolishing all the houses street after street, how friendly everyone was back then, door always open, smiling people, good neighbours, getting things on tick, packing your dad's lunchbox spoon of tea mixed with sugar wrapped in a square of newspaper.

yes times have changed somewhat, but I miss those magic day's.

herbiegrass

04-10-2004, 14:35

Anyone used to go to Netherthorpe School in the 60's.

Mrs Benson was the headteacher,she wore tweed suits and horn rimmed specs, she always reminded me of Minnie Cauldwell off Coronation Street. I remember Mrs Lopez,she had very red hair and a temper to match. Mr Rowland,always in a tweed sports coat and light flannel trousers, a very tall man.

We used to sing rude songs in the barn at the bottom of the playground, whilst stamping on the long bench that ran all the way round the inside of it.

docmel

13-10-2004, 07:20

Was there from about 1958 to 1961.

Better memory than me - cannot remember any teachers. Just have vague memories of playground during morning break and getting the free milk - (small bottle, straw and square of newspaper to stand it on if you were inside) - there used to be a 'tuck shop' that sold wagon wheels, chocolate fingers etc.

herbiegrass

13-10-2004, 11:29

Yes I remember the milk, small bottle and a paper straw, I can also recall having to have an afternoon nap on canvas beds.
and wooden toys in the playground cars you could sit in made of wood with pram wheels and a box on legs with sand in it, if I remember right the nursery yard was the one that looked down on Dover Street over a very high wall. (Dover street was made of wooden blocks then and very slippery when wet.

docmel

14-10-2004, 05:53

herbie

You just triggered another memory.....close to the school there was an old factory/warehouse. I recall going there with some mates and 'finding' some cool parachutes which we used to tie to our backs and jump of walls thinking they would work... they did'nt of course and i guess some of came a cropper. We found out from one of the dads that they were the 'opening', small parachutes, which pulled out the main 'chute - I guess beng so relatvly close to the end of WWII, they were dumped in this old building for some reason.

Speaking of the war i can remember playing in some of the old ruins of buildings which had been demolished either because of WWII or clearance, and finding many a gas mask in the rubble.

'Tell kids of today and they won't believe you'

butch1954uk

06-01-2005, 13:51

my eldest sister wendy and her husband brian (wing) lived @ the back of 105 i remember goin down a ginnell at the side of the old cafe across from the meadow public house

screamingwitch

06-01-2005, 14:38

Originally posted by herbiegrass
The area went down the nick in the 60's when they started demolishing all the houses street after street, how friendly everyone was back then, door always open, smiling people, good neighbours, getting things on tick, packing your dad's lunchbox spoon of tea mixed with sugar wrapped in a square of newspaper.

yes times have changed somewhat, but I miss those magic day's.

i was born in 66 and i still remember the old streets we lived on pyebank at pitsmoor(which has now all gone,my seventies childhood there was great, and the hot summers!) we used to walk from there through neepsend to weston park passing through shalesmoor upperthorpe and netherthorpe...

part of well meadow street is still standing (off st phillips road.) i was there a coupla years ago with my digicam
click here for pics (http://www.geocities.com/screamingwitch2000/SHALESMOOR.html)

im a keen genealogist and have searched my fam tree i have loads of stuff on old sheffield, ive been researching for years, i love sheffield history and anything to do with it,i tend to go round to areas which i know are ready for demolishion and get the pics b4 they have gone for ever...i have some in an old camera for pye bank pitsmoor when i get time to uplaod them on my puter.i will put them on my site

Unregistered

06-01-2005, 15:49

Originally posted by screamingwitch

I love sheffield history and anything to do with it, i tend to go round to areas which i know are ready for demolishion and get the pics b4 they have gone for ever...

I hope that people like you will take time out to visit Parson Cross and record pictures of housing in the vacinity of Buchanan Road, Adlington Road and Deerlands Avenue etc., before it's too late.

The demolision of around 900 council houses has now started and kids in a few years time will have no idea of how the place was in the 20th Century.

I wish someone could tell me what the future plans are for the large areas of emptyness that will be left behind.

herbiegrass

20-01-2005, 20:38

:loopy: I did hear somewhere that they are going to build a new housing office opposite the one on Wordsworth, as the school wants the land back.
and also that there was going to be a wider range of dwellings built, i;e bungalows,3&4 bedroom houses, that sort of thing.
sometime this year i will be able to see chaucer school from my back door, and feel the breeze coming across the school fields,,,,,,,,,can't wait!!!!:loopy:

Ant

28-04-2005, 01:07

Just noticed this thread. My dear old granny grew up on Meadow Street (before everybody's time on here, no doubt). She once wrote the following letter that was published in the Sheffield Star:

"I am a pensioner and have been thinking back to my childhood days in Meadow Street, Sheffield.

I was wondering how many readers would remember the names of Meadow Street.

There was Rastrick the chimney sweep, Jack's Fresh Fish Shop, Lofthouse the newsagents, and Crossley's the large drapery store. But I think the best-known character was Peter Lourie, the owner of the junk shop. He was a pleasant old man who always wore a pair of woolen mittens. He would rummage around his stuff to find the thing you asked for.

Then there was a jazz band of men in fancy dress who played every Saturday night along the street. Then they all went into the pub with the money they collected.

I also remember the unemployed men who played pitch and toss. As this was illegal, they always had a man to look out for the local bobby.

Mrs. Deakin (nee Burn)"

TWIST

28-04-2005, 10:13

my mum was born on alfred road,then moved to meadow street when she got married in 1967,she was the youngest of 10 kids...she tells me some really funny stories of "down cliff"
she says that they were the best days of her life when she was there. i think shes goin to a reunion this saturday,with loads of others who used to live on attercliffe

Darren

28-04-2005, 13:06

Hello all
This whole area is being developed and Shalesmoor in particular is chaging rapidly.

So in order to record for posterity last month I took a stroll round the area and took pictures of Well Meadow Street, Smith field and Shalesmoor

If you would like me to send copies please pm me with your email
regards to all
Darren

Ant

28-04-2005, 22:27

That's a good idea, Darren. I'm currently doing the same with the in-the-process-of-being-demolished Weakland estate. They're not exactly pretty houses, but I spent some happy years as a kid at Weakland Crescent playing on the adjacent farmer's fields and visiting Birley Farm.

I've learnt from experience how few photos were taken of the Rutland Square area of Neepsend where my Mum was brought up and where I spent five years that I was too young to remember. I've got about seven pics, all with tantallising glimpses of the background. It seems my Dad was the only man in the area who used a camera back then.

jennybr

29-04-2005, 13:42

Hi, I was directed to your very newsy site in order to find out a little more about Meadow Street. I have been tracing my family and it appears that they lived at no.21 for many years way back in 1891. My great grandma left there in 1911 or thereabouts. She apparently had a beer retailing shop at 15 Upper Allen Str. Can anyone remember any family stories or links to this house or terrace dweeling or what happened to it .Is it still there? I'm just trying to piece any fragments of info together. Someones grandma etc. may remember something. If anyone can help ,it would be great. I'm in Oz and am trying to do research via the net.
jenny.

lexia

05-05-2005, 09:23

Hi, going down near upper allen st today will check if no 15 still there . Meadow st now demolished

mojoworking

08-05-2005, 01:30

Originally posted by Ant
Just noticed this thread. My dear old granny grew up on Meadow Street (before everybody's time on here, no doubt). She once wrote the following letter that was published in the Sheffield Star:

"I am a pensioner and have been thinking back to my childhood days in Meadow Street, Sheffield.

I was wondering how many readers would remember the names of Meadow Street.

There was Rastrick the chimney sweep, Jack's Fresh Fish Shop, Lofthouse the newsagents, and Crossley's the large drapery store. But I think the best-known character was Peter Lourie, the owner of the junk shop. He was a pleasant old man who always wore a pair of woolen mittens. He would rummage around his stuff to find the thing you asked for.

Then there was a jazz band of men in fancy dress who played every Saturday night along the street. Then they all went into the pub with the money they collected.

I also remember the unemployed men who played pitch and toss. As this was illegal, they always had a man to look out for the local bobby.

Mrs. Deakin (nee Burn)"

I spoke to my aging Auntie who grew up in the area and this is what she had to say:

She remembers Jack's fresh fish shop. There were 2 men who worked there and they were always referred to as Laurel & Hardy as one was quite fat and t'other was small and slight.

Lofthouse - she knew it as a big toy shop.

Crossleys - remembers her mum buying her Whitsuntide clothes which she wore on Whit Sunday & Monday then they were taken to the pawn shop and she never saw them again.

She remembers Peter Lowry the junk shop owner he always had to rummage for stuff but never failed to find what was wanted - he was a funny little man and it was a dark shop and he always wore Steptoe-like fingerless mitts.

She remembers the men in fancy dress and it was quite lively of a Saturday night.

Aizlewoods - a man stood outside this shop shouting "don't forget your peas and relish" - about 2d for a bottle of relish.

Her mum always told her to wait outside Aizlewoods at closing time and not to go inside until they were almost ready for closing when she would get a basin full of cracked eggs for about 1d or 2d on a Saturday night.

She also remembers the pitch and toss but said it was played on almost every street corner but doesn't remember it happening on Meadow Street. As this was an illegal activity there was always a young lad (referred to as a runner )who would watch out for the police and warn anyone of their imminent arrival.

TWA756

08-05-2005, 12:21

Does anyone who knew the Netherthorpe area years ago or went to Netherthorpe School have any memories of Bethel Street? My grandparents had a shop there in the 1930s - I think it was just opposite the school as my mother used to talk about having to go across to the school yard to fetch their dog when it got in the yard and chased the children. I think they had left by the end of the 1930s but wondered whether the shop was still there when Bethel Street was finally pulled down - would be interested in any information about the shop or anything else about Bethel Street

herbiegrass

08-05-2005, 20:28

Hello TWA756,

DON'T KNOW IF THIS LINK WILL WORK FOR BETHEL STREET.

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl

FROM PICTURE SHEFFIELD SITE.

pietro

09-05-2005, 06:38

Link not working, I think herbiegrass means these:

http://www.picturesheffield.co.uk/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=6187

http://www.picturesheffield.co.uk/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=4454

http://www.picturesheffield.co.uk/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=4453

http://www.picturesheffield.co.uk/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=4004

http://www.picturesheffield.co.uk/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=4000

Tets

07-07-2005, 22:12

Hi !! DOCMEL. You lived on St Phillip's Road,1953 to 1963. I worked for Stone's Brewery at that time and was a friend of the Licencee of The White Hart. Can you remember their name. I worked with their Son in law, Harry Bamforth, at the brewery. Had some great meals at the White Hart. In earlier years my family "existed "in the Edward Street area, and at the time of the Sheffield Gangs my Grandfather was licencee for the Ball Inn, Ball Street. Interesting times.

docmel

08-07-2005, 06:50

Originally posted by Tets
Hi !! DOCMEL. You lived on St Phillip's Road,1953 to 1963. I worked for Stone's Brewery at that time and was a friend of the Licencee of The White Hart. Can you remember their name. I worked with their Son in law, Harry Bamforth, at the brewery. Had some great meals at the White Hart. In earlier years my family "existed "in the Edward Street area, and at the time of the Sheffield Gangs my Grandfather was licencee for the Ball Inn, Ball Street. Interesting times.

TETS

I reckon my family would probably knows your family. My grandad worked as a drayman for Stones Brewery - retired about 1957.

My earliest memories of The White Hart was when Harry Bamforth was the landord. His son, Peter, was my best mate - he had a twin sister whose name escapes me and an elder sister called Gillian.

We lived in the corner shop diagonally opposite the White Hart

My dad's still alive (85) called nelson

My grandad died in 1977 called Edward or Mick to his mates -

Ant

08-07-2005, 19:52

Hi !! DOCMEL. You lived on St Phillip's Road,1953 to 1963. I worked for Stone's Brewery at that time and was a friend of the Licencee of The White Hart.

Don't suppose you knew Fred Deakin?

Jozafeen

10-07-2005, 08:43

A thread about Meadow Street and nobody has mentioned Winters' (or Winterseses as it was called) Bakery yet?

My Grandmother and Great Aunties lived at Netherthorpe and my parents always called in at the bakery for freshly baked custard tarts. The shop smelled so fabulous I can still remember it!

stevie1957

10-07-2005, 11:17

Originally posted by mojoworking
INext door to Hudson's was Gebhardts butchers/deli where you could buy the best pork balm cakes I ever tasted.

Hope this is not a daft question.....

What are balm cakes?

Tets

10-07-2005, 12:49

DOCMEL.
Hi!!! Don't remember your family offhand. I worked for Stones, in office, up to going for National Service in 1952 and after 1954 when I came back. Worked there for about another year sending Beer out to the Pubs. I was working under a chap called Bill Selby, very well known, whose job I took over when he passed away. I was better known for being Cricket Secretary of Sports Club at that time. I also had some of my relatives working there as draymen at that time. Family called Walkers. Didn't know about Harry's offspring. Great chap was Harry, a real card. Taught me a lot. I must express my thanks to his Mother in Law , though, for the many wonderful meals she gave me at The White Hart when we were off playing cricket at The Robin Hood, Little Matlock. Still remember many names of those working for Stones at that time. Hope your relatives remember that in those times Draymen got FREE beer, even though driving. Bye.

docmel

10-07-2005, 16:22

TETS

I do remember Harry Bamforth being a very keen cricketer.

I also remember the dray wagon turning up outside our shop and sometimes pouring my grandad out onto the pavement. He would have been locked up now, but as you said in thsoe days, every pub they delivered to they got a free drink...did him no harm though...he was 83 when he died and it was not the liver that got him - he was still having a couple of pints a day only a few days before he passed away!!

My dad swears that Stones was the best bitter than man ever made - and although I am a lager drinker I do recall that it being the only bitter I enjoyed.

Tets

11-07-2005, 23:10

Was certainly a good beer. Have just had one,but is not like it used to be. Cannon Ales, Samson Ales, and probably for draymen---Strong Ale. You didn't have to be keen to enjoy the Cricket outings to all the Working Men's clubs.police team etc. After every match their was a slap up meal and ,of course lashings of beer. Harry was the life and soul of the party. God bless him.

mojoworking

12-07-2005, 00:29

Originally posted by stevie1957
Hope this is not a daft question.....

What are balm cakes?

Balm cakes are just bread cakes, or large flat bread rolls.

The term is used more commonly in Lancashire than Yorkshire (you often hear the factory girls in Coronation Street ordering "bacon balms" from the cafe), but you do see them in Sheffield as well.

retep

12-07-2005, 14:26

Does anyone remember Kandy's on the end of Meadow street
Hoyle street, used to be the Alhambra Hotel 100 hoyle Street

stevie1957

12-07-2005, 19:57

Originally posted by mojoworking
Balm cakes are just bread cakes, or large flat bread rolls.

The term is used more commonly in Lancashire than Yorkshire (you often hear the factory girls in Coronation Street ordering "bacon balms" from the cafe), but you do see them in Sheffield as well.

Thanks Mojo.

george98

15-07-2005, 19:28

had the baby wear shjop in meadow street knew wilf croft very well

Dawdie

15-07-2005, 20:43

I remember going to a little shop,I think it was Netherthorpe Place.It sold sheet music with the words to the songs in the Hit Parade songs like Tab Hunter Red Sails in the Sunset. I think it came out monthly and I used to walk from Burgoyne Rd to get it nobody else seemed to stock it.The shop was on the stretch passed Gebhards as it turned left into Watery St.Does anyone remember this or have Photo's?

inessex

26-11-2005, 00:31

I have been searching for details of Port Mahon. My Grandmother owned a sweetshop 'Barrons' at 31 Netherthorpe Place around 1908,1909

Prior to this they live in Agnes Square. Would anyone know if this is the same area. Can't seem to find it.

Plain Talker

26-11-2005, 10:04

Originally posted by stevie1957
Hope this is not a daft question.....

What are balm cakes?

It's actually "Barm" cake. It seems to be more commonly used in Lancashire, for some reason.

Comes from the old word for yeast. (or the dough mixture that was kept over from one batch of bread baking to the nest, which would be used to leaven, or rise the bread )

If a kiddie was acting, erm, a bit "daft", they'd be called a "barm pot" or a "barm cake" in our family.

PT

burnttoast

26-11-2005, 10:24

Originally posted by Plain Talker
It's actually "Barm" cake. It seems to be more commonly used in Lancashire, for some reason.

Comes from the old word for yeast. (or the dough mixture that was kept over from one batch of bread baking to the nest, which would be used to leaven, or rise the bread )

If a kiddie was acting, erm, a bit "daft", they'd be called a "barm pot" or a "barm cake" in our family.

PT
Thats right. I remember my Mother used to send me to the shops and fetch 2oz of barm and half a stone of flour,when she was making bread. Tell thee what ,it were reit good that bread. :)

detectorist

26-11-2005, 18:04

Originally posted by docmel
Was there from about 1958 to 1961.

Better memory than me - cannot remember any teachers. Just have vague memories of playground during morning break and getting the free milk - (small bottle, straw and square of newspaper to stand it on if you were inside) - there used to be a 'tuck shop' that sold wagon wheels, chocolate fingers etc. Hi-I was there from 1956 to 1963 & used to live in Shalesmoor. Opp. the Roscoe. Can anyone remember Jimmy & June the twins who lived at the Ship Inn?

detectorist

26-11-2005, 18:17

Originally posted by Jozafeen
A thread about Meadow Street and nobody has mentioned Winters' (or Winterseses as it was called) Bakery yet?

My Grandmother and Great Aunties lived at Netherthorpe and my parents always called in at the bakery for freshly baked custard tarts. The shop smelled so fabulous I can still remember it! SO CAN I:thumbsup:

detectorist

26-11-2005, 18:19

Originally posted by burnttoast
Thats right. I remember my Mother used to send me to the shops and fetch 2oz of barm and half a stone of flour,when she was making bread. Tell thee what ,it were reit good that bread. :) It did no harm to me BUD:)

mojoworking

27-11-2005, 01:37

Originally posted by Plain Talker
It's actually "Barm" cake. It seems to be more commonly used in Lancashire, for some reason.

Comes from the old word for yeast. (or the dough mixture that was kept over from one batch of bread baking to the nest, which would be used to leaven, or rise the bread )

If a kiddie was acting, erm, a bit "daft", they'd be called a "barm pot" or a "barm cake" in our family.

PT

I must take issue with you there PT. The BBC Lancashire website speaks of "Balm cakes (hollowed out, add a dob of butter then fill with chips)"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/fun_stuff/lists/chips.shtml

taxman

27-11-2005, 11:39

Agree with PT

Born and bred in manc land and we had chip barms not balms

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat&drink/local-dishes.html

taxman

27-11-2005, 11:49

Back on topic there are some fantastic photos of the area that I found when I was the Ranger on the Ponderosa of the area before all the houses were knocked down and the flats put up.

Also the time when there was a barrage balloon on the Ponder during the war. Don't know what happened to these photos but would suggest Netherthorpe and Upperthorpe Community Alliance may have them.

mojoworking

27-11-2005, 15:42

Originally posted by taxman
Agree with PT

Born and bred in manc land and we had chip barms not balms

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat&drink/local-dishes.html

It looks like both spellings are equally acceptable ;)

depoix

07-12-2005, 17:46

Originally posted by depoix
think ray has sold the shop now balieve an asion bloke has it,area gone down nick now its the red light district accross the the road from the meadow pub the meadow pub has closed its doors for the last time,nothing left now on meadow street

3dogman

08-12-2005, 16:04

My grandma used to work for Bryans the bakers for donkeys years. I can't remember if the bakers was actually on Meadow St as it closed years ago. I think there was like a big toy shop on the opposite corner and a chemist next door to the bakers.
I can remember the apple pies she used to make though lovely!. :) I just remember going to Netherthorpe Infants school it was a long time ago 1959-61.

docmel

08-12-2005, 19:15

Originally posted by 3dogman
I just remember going to Netherthorpe Infants school it was a long time ago 1959-61.

3dogman - you got a better memory then me mate and I went to Netherthorpe Infants the same time.

We lived in the Off License opposite the White Hart on St Phillips Road

3dogman

09-12-2005, 21:06

Hello docmel, Iused to live on Weston Street next to a laundry, we had to go up a flight of stone steps to get to the house. We had to move when the gales of 62 blew the bathroom walls down. I was about 9 then.

Touche

12-12-2005, 02:23

Could anyone please give me any help about Daisy Walk? What it was like, photos etc? Any help would be appreciated.

peterw

29-01-2006, 14:13

I’ve just trawled through this site and nobody’s mentioned Upperthorpe. When I married in 1948, we lived with the wife’s mother at 14 Fountain Square which was quite large house and had been converted from a corner shop. The shop window was still boarded up. Do any of you history buffs know who originally owned that shop, and what it sold?

kensimmo

14-02-2006, 08:36

docmel

14-02-2006, 11:09

I recall Jimmy Peacock from my childhood. when he would bring his horse and cart down Cross Hunt Street.
He was if memory serves me correctly a rag-and -bone man

he was fruit and veg man

When my Grand had her shop on St Phillips Road she bought her fruit and veg from him. She sometimes went down to his place on Meadow Street to give him an order (no phone in those days) or pay her bill. I sometimes tagged along. He kept his horse in the back yard, but the smell was, err....something else.

Last time I saw him was around 1981 - he had his stall on the end of Fawcett Street opposite the row of shops there.

intitot

14-02-2006, 11:56

Could anyone please give me any help about Daisy Walk? What it was like, photos etc? Any help would be appreciated.
Hi Touche, regarding Daisy Walk, My Grandmother was born there, in 1898, she lived there with her mother at No7 court, you could also try this link for a photo: http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s14815

Hope this helps,
regards, intitot

bassplayer

14-02-2006, 13:13

bassplayer

14-02-2006, 13:26

When we lived there back in the late 60's they were still demolishing the old houses and ours would have been one of the last to go, finally in the early 70's.
I remember that we always had rats and those things were BIG.
We always had the rat catcher in because they were coming in from the adjoining houses that were derelict. One good thing was that we had all the back yards to play in, superb.

(Sorry for pressing the post button too often and almost hijacking the Thread)

jauntyone

19-02-2006, 00:35

Hi I Have Fond Memories Of Medow St, I Used To Go In The Medow Street Pub, Corted A Girl Called Trudi. Her Dads Name Ws Jim, He Was The Landlord

jauntyone

02-04-2006, 22:15

Back in the 60's I used to court a girl whos father was the landlod of the Medow St pub. I think his name was Jim and his daughters name was Trudi.

Such Memories

herbiegrass

05-08-2006, 00:14

GREAT TO SEE SO MANY MEMORIES OF THIS AREA,,PEOPLE ARE SHOOTING OFF UP ALLYWAYS AND WOTNOT.

BRYANS BAKERY WAS ON NETHERTHORPE PLACE (PORT MAHON) NEXT TO HILLS HERBALIST CHEMIST.

WINTERS BAKERY DID MAKE THE BEST CUSTARDS IN THE WORLD, EVEN TO THIS DAY I AIN'T FOUND ANYTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO ONE OF THEIR FRESH BAKED AND WARM CUSTARDS.

ON PICTURE SHEFFIELD THERE IS A PHOTO OF THE "IRON MAN" URINAL ON MEADOW STREET, BUT IN THE BACKGROUND YOU CAN SEE JIMMY PEACOCK SAT ON HIS SHOP STEP....

KEEP THE MEMORIES COMING............

HOPKINS, DIANE'S, BECK'S FRUIT SHOP, MARINA CAFE, ESTHER'S,

:love: :hihi: :love:

Touche

05-08-2006, 03:27

Can anyone think back to Daisy Walk? What was it like to live there? When was it all demolished? Does anyone remember people or families that used to live on Daisy Walk? Any help would be appreciated
Thanks, Richard

mistyraven

06-08-2006, 00:10

My gran lived on meadow street annie and jack redfearn.. The paper shop my aunt worked there... sylvia she was called.. I also think I know the ashmores. well one called steven..

peterw

07-08-2006, 00:47

There used to be a back-street bookie on Meadow Street. I put £1 on Airborne to win the Derby and it came in at 50 to 1; first grey horse to win the Derby. Lived then in Fountain Square (number 14). Also backed Regret to win the Manchester November Handicap, and it raced home at 66 to 1. Never put money on any other horse from that day to this.
P.S. (edited) Also used to have a drink at the Havana on Meadow Street (around 1948-49). Can’t remember the name of the licensee but he had, I think, two grown-up sons who, like their father, were snappy dressers.

abbie

02-09-2006, 17:34

anyone know edward street flats

Plain Talker

02-09-2006, 20:38

anyone know edward street flats

;) Who's he? :hihi: ;)

Is he related to the Hampshire Street-Flats? or is he not one of the hyphenated Street-Flats?

Sorry, couldn't resist that one. ;)

PT

martin1print

06-09-2006, 20:52

There is another book written by Ethel Johnstone 'Growing Up in Meadow Street', which used to be available at Sheffield Scene on Leopold Street for £2.50. Ethel lives at Low Edges now. We printed the book and perhaps Ethel still has a few copies left? Email martin1print@yahoo.com for further details.

billsaville

06-09-2006, 20:58

What was the name of the pub on Watery Lane between the police box on Upperthorpe Rd and Fountain Square? I used to go to meet my Grandmother there at 10.00pm and "walk her home". We lived in the cellar at 49 Upperthorpe Rd beween 1939 & 1947 and my other Grandmother was bombed out of her house on Watery Lane during the blitz. Are there any photos or old maps showing Watery Lane and Fountain Square? I've looked and can't find any.

Plain Talker

06-09-2006, 22:50

I think Watery Lane and Watery Street were very near each other...

Watery St is where the Coroners is now, near Malinda St.

*_ash_*

09-11-2006, 20:20

Hi, I was just using the search facility, before i ask about Martin St for a thread, and found this thread.
I never seen the Sheffield Picture site before, i have a feeling, im going to be stuck on the computer for hours looking through it.
So much history around Netherthorpe, its great to read all the stories.

ash

chattycathy

24-11-2006, 15:04

It has been great looking at the comments re the Upperthorpe area. I am looking for pictures of Bethel Street. My dad grew up around there in the 20's and 30's. He attended Netherthorpe School and despite a failing memory can still remember the name of the teachers who taught him. He hankers after the area and I was hoping to find him some pictures for Christmas, I have tried the picture link but had no success. My dad is Melvyn Stafford.

*_ash_*

24-11-2006, 16:33

I am looking for pictures of Bethel Street. .

Hi cathy, i don't know how to do links, but if you goto picturesheffield.com , and click on 'B' and scroll down, there are 5 pictures of Bethel St. PT might still be linked with this thread, and she's the expert with the links thing, and she might help.

Be warned though, i ended up looking at pictures almost all night after looking at a few roads around Netherthorpe, theres hundreds.:hihi:

ash

chattycathy

24-11-2006, 18:46

Thanks Djash - managed to order a couple of pictures and will probably just print some of the others off. It all helps to get Dad chatting to us, he remembers this area better than where he is now!

herbiegrass

29-01-2007, 21:26

Beatty crookes, landlady at the white horse malinda street..bag o'nibbets an a vimto please, mi grandad'll pay...

anlabystreet

30-01-2007, 19:15

TN72

07-02-2007, 14:05

My nan grew up round meadow street / watery lane not sure which im goin to check ! her family also had a shop that was the front of there house , shes told me about fetchin the late final and may day trips on the coach that her dad paid for each year for all the kids on the street!!!
Anyone remember them my nan was Bessie Holland , she had lots of bruvs and sisters the ones i remember are joe,albert,edna,mabel,ken,frank and arnold i think!!! I WILL CHECK!!

Bodo Molling

12-03-2007, 10:34

I lived in Morpeth St. Someone asked the name of the pub in Watery Lane.
It was called the Nottingham House. I used to go very regularly into the Meadow St. Hotel. Bodo

pec140

12-08-2007, 16:11

Does anyone remember Ct 2 St Phillip's Road - the first court on the right hand side after the junction with Netherthorpe Place. I think there were three houses at the front and possibly 6 behind.

matiz

12-08-2007, 17:53

Does anyone remember Ct 2 St Phillip's Road - the first court on the right hand side after the junction with Netherthorpe Place. I think there were three houses at the front and possibly 6 behind.

my grandad and gran lived on corner of henry street and meadow street same yard as jimmy peacock there names are fred and dolly ward. fred worked on the commitee at st philips club on radford street and at the new club. would be nice if some one could remember them has i wasnt born when there died be nice to hear stories about them. there children fred ray alfie jack harry and cliff went to netherthorpe and upperthorpe school in the late 40s my dad has many good memories of meadow street and remembers rays butchers brians bakery on netherthorpe place and many more

Mags

12-08-2007, 20:40

Angilaruk

12-08-2007, 21:44

he was fruit and veg man

When my Grand had her shop on St Phillips Road she bought her fruit and veg from him. She sometimes went down to his place on Meadow Street to give him an order (no phone in those days) or pay her bill. I sometimes tagged along. He kept his horse in the back yard, but the smell was, err....something else.

Last time I saw him was around 1981 - he had his stall on the end of Fawcett Street opposite the row of shops there.

My childhood was on St Stephens Walk, and through that time it was Mr Beer who did the Fruit & veg at the end of Fawcett St, near to the steps to St Stephens Church. His Mrs ran the shop on Summer Street.

We moved there from PyeBank Rd in about 1970, and stayed in the area until a few years ago.

Mind you, I remember going to Meadow Street for pie 'n' peas. They were to die for :D

*Smiles*

Angi

hillsbro

12-08-2007, 21:54

I have been searching for details of Port Mahon. My Grandmother owned a sweetshop 'Barrons' at 31 Netherthorpe Place around 1908,1909. Prior to this they live in Agnes Square. Would anyone know if this is the same area. Can't seem to find it.

Here is an extract from an article on Port Mahon that I wrote for "The Sheffield Philatelist":

The name Portmahon (also found as Port Mahon or Port-Mahon) applied to a small area in the Netherthorpe district, and it can be found on older Sheffield street maps. There was a Baptist chapel known as Portmahon Chapel, built in 1839, which stood near the present Medico-Legal Centre in Watery Street, and which was demolished in the 1960s. The name "Watery Street" refers to the stream (once spanned by the long-gone Portmahon Bridge) which came down the valley from Crookes, but which since the early 1800s has run through an underground culvert before emptying into the River Don.

Originally, Portmahon was the name of a short street which ran in a westward curve from the junction of St Philip’s Road and Upperthorpe Road. According to the late Roy Davey in his book "Crossin o'er" about Sheffield's bridges, Portmahon acquired its unusual name in the 18th century, when on two occasions the British fleet captured Mahón, the largest town on the island of Menorca. The street was evidently first laid out during a wave of patriotism that swept the country after one of these naval victories. Portmahon was later extended south-westwards, but the extension had the name Watery Lane. This can be seen on the portion of an undated (probably early 1890s) "Kelly’s Directory Map of Sheffield" that I have. Some time in the 1890s the name Watery Lane began to apply to the whole street, and so the name Portmahon disappeared as a street name, but it was still used for the adjacent district, as well as the post office. It is interesting to note what was told me by an old friend, whose grandmother lived in the Netherthorpe area. She always pronounced the place-name "PortmaHON", with the emphasis on the last syllable. This agrees with the Spanish pronunciation of "Mahón", unlike, for example, the Irish surname "MAHon".

Although the name Portmahon disappeared from the street in the 1890s, its post office remained until the 1940s. However, the name did survive until the late 1990s on a pillar box at the junction of St Philip’s Road and Watery Street.

Portmahon post office can be seen on the far left of this photo from picturesheffield.com:

http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s18244

herbiegrass

12-08-2007, 22:04

In the sixties I worked at Chadburns Opticians in the Wicker and three times a week I was sent to Meadow Street to deliver orders and collect the spectacles that were ready from a small newly built factory.I seem to remember that they also made specs for Leadbeater and Peters.
I used to hop on the single decker bus at Parnells at Fishponds I think it was called the inner circle bus but very often it was quicker to walk.
I lived up at Barber Rd and if it was near lunchtime I would walk up through Upperthorpe I remember all the houses were being flattened and huge tall blocks were being built.
Does anyone remember this factory and is it still there ?

I do remember the factory quite well, we used to go around the side and get all the lenses that had been thrown out near the bins and use them for skimming to knock cans over etc...unfortunatly it is all gone now, just the meadow street hotel is standing, and it looks like that will be raised to the ground shortly as it is boarded up and surrounded by fencing, so expect some executive flats to appear anytime soon. the area has been totally destroyed!!!!!!!

herbiegrass

12-08-2007, 22:16

I,m surprised and a little disappointed my old employer never got a mention on this thread...Tom Crossland and sons... Plumbers and heating engineers where i served my apprenticeship...He was at number 55 meadow street where blundells now stands behind the petrol station....fond memories..:thumbsup:

I'm afraid in my time ( 60's ) the other side of Hoyle street became out of bounds because of the "NEW ROOAD" think thats how it's spelt.
so we were not supposed to go across there,as there was no traffic lights and no crossing for us to get to the other side. I remember there being just about one accident a day at that junction as two lanes suddenly became one Hoyle st. I do remember a fire engine hitting a ford consul opposite what was the BISRA and wrapping it round the telegraph pole, the bloke had just got out from underneath it to fetch a spanner, I can still see his face now...stood in the doorway in his overalls with spanner in hand....what a lucky bloke he was that day....the fire engine went across the road and scraped down the wall as far as Doncaster st before coming to a stop, when I got down there they had the driver laying on the floor with his face covered in blood, but I heard he came through it OK.
I remember the shell garage, as my sister used to go and talk to the mechanic there, she called him 'RINGO' i think it was co's he had a big nose.....:hihi:

Lastyz

12-08-2007, 22:37

In the sixties I worked at Chadburns Opticians in the Wicker and three times a week I was sent to Meadow Street to deliver orders and collect the spectacles that were ready from a small newly built factory.I seem to remember that they also made specs for Leadbeater and Peters.
I used to hop on the single decker bus at Parnells at Fishponds I think it was called the inner circle bus but very often it was quicker to walk.
I lived up at Barber Rd and if it was near lunchtime I would walk up through Upperthorpe I remember all the houses were being flattened and huge tall blocks were being built.
Does anyone remember this factory and is it still there ?

Chadburns was built on the site of my family’s old home at 96 Meadow Street. They were called Rastrick. Jonathan Rastrick was a chimney sweep and quite well known I believe, as much for frequenting the Meadow Hotel as for his job. I believe the house was demolished about 1937 as my grandmother, who by then lived there alone, got one of the first houses built at Parson Cross.

kensimmo

13-08-2007, 08:17

herbiegrass

16-10-2007, 21:32

ANYONE OUT THERE GOT ANY PHOTOGRAPHS OF THIS STREET OR PORT MAHON OR ANY OF THE YARDS ETC. I HAVE SEEN THEM ALL ON PIC SHEFF. SO IF ANYONE CAN SEND ME ANY I WOULD BE GRATEFUL...:help:

joegraybsc

23-11-2007, 11:30

Hi Everybody!
Only just found this thread, so apologies for missing it on earlier visits to the Forum.
I was born in 1946, just off Hammond St. (Hammond Place), which itself was just off St. Philip's Road. These particular one up, one down slums (there was an attic, too cold and damp to use, and an off-shot tiny kitchen) were demolished in the mid- to late fifties - we moved to Firth Park when I was ten, into a three bedroom 'sunshine type' house and I had my own bedroom - it was like a palace!
Memories of the area are fading a little now, but here are a few that I can recall:
Many happy hours shopping "wi mi mam" on Meadow St., especially at Melias (their haslet was, and still is, the best I've ever tasted);
The excitement of "gooin' t'pictures" - remember The Weston, The Roscoe, The Unity, The Scala, etc.?;
Having my hair cut at Ted's (what was his surname?) on St. Philip's Road, sitting on a piece of wood which was placed across the arms of the barber's chair;
Playing for hours with my mates in Joe Beer's tyre stock - tyres used to be stacked up in columns and you could hide inside the stacks then pop up and 'shoot' the baddies!;
Exploring for hours in the bombed-out houses that were all around us, ignoring all the dire warnings about the dangerous conditions;
Watching my grandma sorting rags in the rag-and-bone man's yard (her name was Matilda 'Tilly' Wood, and she was the best rag sorter in Sheffield, apparently);
Watching (through the scruffy windows) the cutlers and scissor-makes etc., around Upper Allen St., with their furnaces and grinding machines.
My family name is Gray, and I can recall other families called Knight, Betts and Moffat and we used to visit friends that lived on Edward St. flats - the Stimpsons.
No doubt more memories will come to me, especially if anyone responds to this posting and gives me a few prompts!
Happy Days!
Joe

SnifferDog

23-11-2007, 13:17

matiz

23-11-2007, 16:00

Have only just seen this thread, so apologies..

My mum & dad used to live in Netherthorpe Place when they first got married. My dad's family all lived in the surrounding area. My dad is Billy Dale, and my mum is Rose.

hi think my dad my might know your dad was he a club turn and if so did his son have a accident with a railway wagon

SnifferDog

23-11-2007, 17:09

Hi yes, that would be my half brother. Please feel free to send me a message with your dad's name, and I'll ask my mum. Dad, sadly passed away 11 years ago.

matiz

23-11-2007, 17:18

Hi yes, that would be my half brother. Please feel free to send me a message with your dad's name, and I'll ask my mum. Dad, sadly passed away 11 years ago.

hi sorry to here about your dad my dads name is jack ward his parents names are fred and dolly ward they had 6 lads my dad has told me there took your haf brother into there house when he had that accident fred and dolly lived on corner of henry street and meadow street

SnifferDog

23-11-2007, 17:26

Hi, I've just given my bro a quick call. Does your name begin with an R........ he says he remembers. :hihi:

matiz

23-11-2007, 17:31

Hi, I've just given my bro a quick call. Does your name begin with an R........ he says he remembers. :hihi:

that could be my uncle ray

SnifferDog

23-11-2007, 17:40

ahh, its your uncle. Roy, my brother said Ray.

Small world eh ?!?!?!

matiz

23-11-2007, 17:49

ahh, its your uncle. Roy, my brother said Ray.

Small world eh ?!?!?!

it is ray:hihi: when i see my uncle i let him know rest of rays brothers are clifford harry jack fred alf it is a small world hope your mum is well and your brother perhaps your mum might remember fred and dolly they parents.

SnifferDog

23-11-2007, 17:52

My mum probably wont, she was Dad's second wife, but my brother's mum, more than likely will.

Bodo Molling

19-12-2007, 18:27

My step father ( Ron Chatterton) and myself used to work for Ted Beer on the early 1950s. I used to live on Bethel Street on which the tyre place used to stand. The other corner of the yard was was on Hoyle Street. This yard was an old water holding area in the event of fires during the war.

AKADOK

11-01-2008, 01:11

I was on Meadow Street last week. Sadly the Meadow pub has just been demolished. Most of Malinda Street is fenced off and waiting to be pulled down as well.

*_ash_*

11-01-2008, 01:26

I was on Meadow Street last week. Sadly the Meadow pub has just been demolished. Most of Malinda Street is fenced off and waiting to be pulled down as well.
Shame, the last remaining 'oldie' on Meadow Street has gone.

This picture I took is probably one of the last ones of it...:(

CLICKY HERE FOR A FINAL LOOK AT THE MEADOW ST HOTEL... (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/djash1000_photo/MEADOWPUB0307.jpg)

herbiegrass

20-01-2008, 21:20

Yes the Meadow has been taken from us,the last building on the main side of the street, I got down there the day after they had flattened it, and I was quite sad about it all, they never salvaged anything, the beautiful stained glass window and even the pub sign have been destroyed. They said it took just three hours to destroy the building.three hours to destroy happy memories...I took these pictures,not much to show, it was where people sang and families laughed,that is all.....

hope this works....

http://cid-0501e8ee7dfb4007.spaces.live.com/

if it ain't working try pasting into your browser...

herbiegrass

20-01-2008, 21:21

Forgot To Add That It Looks Like Burnt Tree Lane Has Been Erased From Our Lives Too.....

zimmerman

21-01-2008, 00:18

just came across this forum,i was born on Morpeth St, just round the corner, our neighbours were dougie and Doris Markham,i can remember lots of names ,Whartons,Theakers , Mrs Dutton,Devines,Shorts,Henry Gray who lived on meadow st , The photos that hung in the Meadow where taken by Doris Markhams brother Leslie Rodwell, suprised no ones mentioned Alf Becketts chip shop,the meadow had a few landlords,Totts Brammer was one
of them ,we will never see a community like that again

*_ash_*

21-01-2008, 00:57

Forgot To Add That It Looks Like Burnt Tree Lane Has Been Erased From Our Lives Too.....
Your link works :thumbsup:

Yep, that little side street also gone. Even now after only few weeks gone, you can't see where any of it was. :mad:

Cossy

09-03-2008, 19:15

i was born in Martin Lane in 1954 and lived there till 1960 I remember a lot of the place my mam took me to in those days

englands son

09-03-2008, 19:19

Is This The Cossy Who Asked About Charlie Lindley On Another Thread?? If It Is I Will Ask Him As He Is My Dad Thanks.. Did You Know Him Well?? Any Storys To Tell:)

ENGLANDER

21-03-2008, 12:15

My mother lived in the area many years ago and she still has fond memories of the area and people, if any one can remember the MARSHAL name or BEVAN it would be interesting to hear from you. To give an idea of the era she was born in 1932 and lived in the area for the next twenty years. Thanks for your time

herbiegrass

25-08-2008, 22:12

just to say that dear old Alf who owned the chippy on t'corner of meadow st sudbury street, passed away only this year in the NGH. they will be feasting on chips and scraps in heaven now.....:rolleyes:

herbiegrass

25-08-2008, 22:14

anyone know how to get hold of Ron Clayton writer and local wit......He rememberes my grandad Albert Wharton,,and I would like to hear if he has any more memories of him.....:help::thumbsup:

catherine61

02-10-2008, 23:40

I lived at 93 for a time after mydad died. My auntie had a hairdressers there. My Great Uncle Paddy had a green grocers on the end just before you went on to Port Mahon. I remember becks fish and chip shop and Wilfred croft had a shop next to my aunts shop,before that his shop was a tailors shop called Mr sleznick I may have spelt that wrong,he once went to the holy land and brought us unleavened bread back. I remember taking bets for my uncles up becks the greengrocers back yard. I moved to Edward St Flats when I was 10 and went to st vincents to school

MJM1962

03-10-2008, 17:58

My nan lived at 54 Watery Street, we have a family member called Ray who is the son of Joe from Hudsons News, the shop was on one side of the road when I was little, then rebuilt at the other side on Netherthorpe Place, I used to love going with my nan up to the shop to buy loose violet creams, which were a real treat because they were expensive, I still love them now. Ray was at our house a couple of weeks ago and he is very well, he can remember everyone from around that area.

Redfyre

21-10-2008, 14:30

Does anyone remember the house on Watery Street that became part of the International Twist Drill offices in the 1950s? When was it turned into part of the firm's premises? Can anyone remember the number of that house?
There was a pub just round the corner from the Intal premises, on the corner of Malinda Street and Henry (?) Street. Any memories of this pub in the 50s?
By the way, a notorious resident of Meadow Street in the Victorian era was Bill Broadhead, of the Sheffield Ourages saga.

Redfyre

21-10-2008, 16:55

Does anyone know what happened to Ethel/Edith Johnstone, who wrote the book on Meadow Street many years ago? She and her husband Joe used to live at Low Edges some ten years ago. Joe Johnstone was the son of Bob Johnstone, formerly of Danville Street, Pitsmoor.

painterman

22-10-2008, 15:17

MJM1962

22-10-2008, 15:23

My nan's house (no;54) was owned by Twist Drill, it had quite a few outhouses in the back yard and a massive gate. The house next door (no;56) was owned and actually used by Twist Drill as a sort of workshop/assembly shop. The Medico Legal Centre entrance stands almost exactly on the spot now.

Bodo Molling

26-10-2008, 12:01

In reply to Redfyre. The name of the pub on Matilda St. was The White Horse. It was a Tetley House. Can anyone remember the Havana pub,Which was on Meadow St.There was a bomb site which stretched from MeadowSt. to Morpeth St. and the Havana was at the side of it. At the other side was Bramhas fish & chip shop. As earlier stated in another thread , Tom Bramha later became the landlord of the sadly missed Meadow St. Hotel.

nosy nellie

26-10-2008, 20:02

On the other Corner opposite The White Horse was The Denison another good pub until its demise a few years ago.

docmel

26-10-2008, 23:06

On the other Corner opposite The White Horse was The Denison another good pub until its demise a few years ago.

One of my Dad's favourite watering holes in the 50's and 60's

nosy nellie

27-10-2008, 16:59

It Was mine too I have never been in any pub like it during the last fifteen years it was open.Full of wonderfull characters,singers and Dancers.

desperatedan

13-12-2008, 19:13

Does anyone remember the Big Yard up from Meadow street at Upperthorpe, it was across the road from the Scarborough arms, there was a picture house (though i cant remember it) just down the road near the "slipper baths" where you could have a bath and wash your clothes. My grandma and grandad lived in the big yard, i can remember standing in the entrance as a toddler when the queen got crowned. ah lovely memories!!

phantom309

13-12-2008, 19:32

I remember the picture across from the Scarborough Arms it was the Oxford I lived in Dover Steet opisite the White Hart on the corner of St. Phillips Road and Dover Street from 1951 to 1966 and we used to go to Oxford,Western and Roscoe as well as the Unity and Don which were all picture house's at that time

herbiegrass

31-01-2009, 22:03

Got a phone call from Ron Clayton,had a chat about the good old days, hope to meet up with him sometime...

docmel

02-02-2009, 14:26

phantom309

02-02-2009, 20:03

Hi Docmel, I think I can remember you though I am a few years older than you but you are around the same age as one of my sisters we lived in the yard across from the beer off corner of St.Phillips Road and Dover Street but the entry was on St.Phillips there was a lot of us ,enough to have our own football team if we had wanted too.

evelyne7

05-02-2009, 20:44

I remember Cartledge's shop - the building is still there near the Upperthorpe baths.
I remember Blanchards on Infirmary Road. The assistants put your money in a tube and it disappeared along the ceiling to the office and came back with change and your bill in it.
Does anyone remember Barnes Place ? A large square of houses with the Dragon pub on the corner. It was opposite Gilpin street.

evelyne7

05-02-2009, 20:51

I lived on Meadow St. til 1953.
No one seems to have mentioned Golds. I think were sort of a hardware shop. They had a well kept monkey in a cage in the backyard, called Jennie.
The hairdressers, Golds, a bakery, a tobacconist and Esthers sweetshop.The urinal by the side of the phonebox and was there an icecream shop opposite this called Fantozzies. Fish Jacks and Gebhards.
I went to Netherthorpe school and am so pleased to have confirmation that we had afternoon naps. I have a faint memory - could see myself on a sort of stretcher in a classroom with other children. Thanks for that information.:thumbsup:

evelyne7

05-02-2009, 20:57

When you walked to the bottom of Hoyle St.- Opposite, in between two streets (top road and bottom road as they were known) they came to a point opposite the Roscoe Cinema - was there a pub there ? I seem to remember a phone box ? Was it a doctors surgery or a pub or both ? Anyone remember please

jean1

05-02-2009, 21:09

I remember most of the above, I lived opposite the wash house on Daniel Hill. I used to go to st nats church and I was in the cgb. I remember The Dragon, my friend's mum and brother used to go and call for her at our house to go home( I lived in the corner shop then on Cleveland Street ). I used to go swimming to the baths all the time and I also used the slipper baths where you got 30 mins of hot water for a shilling

phantom309

05-02-2009, 21:25

Kirstykbart

05-02-2009, 23:22

Hi there,

I'm trying to find out what I can about my husbands great grandfather who, as far as I know, owned a newsagents at 19 Netherthorpe Place. I think I managed to find a picture of it on the Picture Sheffield site so pleased with that so far!

His name was John William Bartholomew and his wife was Ann (nee Dixon). I have no idea of the time period they had the shop or any details really. My father in law has a painting that his uncle painted which showed the shop and that's where I've started really.

If anyone knows anything, however trivial, I'd really love to hear from you. My father in law doesn't really know anything about this grandfather and wasn't told much about him so anything would be a help.

Thanks for reading.

Kirsty

jean1

06-02-2009, 09:50

I am sure the road at the side of the Roscoe was called Jobson Road as my mate lived up there and I think the Dragon was on the corner of Portland Place and Infirmary Road I think it was a Tennents Pub

It makes me laugh how people remember what beer was sold at these pubs. It so reminds me of my dad, that what he used to do.

Kirstykbart

07-02-2009, 21:36

just to add to my post earlier. It seems like my husbands great grandfather had the shop at least between the dates of 1919 and 1925 so unlikely to have any memories popping up! But if anyone knows of anything or recognises the name then I'd love to hear from you.

motty

17-02-2009, 19:49

only just joined forum and have great memories of meadow street. I was born in bonville street opposite saint annes church and lived there all my life until they pulled the houses down. I used to spend hours in ted beers tyre stocks playing in the tyres and on the old army trucks.my mum used to work in the chip shop owned by tommy and lyna brammer which was at the bottom of scotland street ,and tommy then took over the meadow pub.the urinal in the middle of the road was known as the iron duke.my next door neighbour jimmy used to play piano in the meadow and could play any instument you can name. i remember bodo as i was in the same class as his sister marlene at netherthorpe in the early fifties. last saw wilf croft selling scissors in chesterfield market last year.

jean1

17-02-2009, 20:27

You've just reminded me , I remember Croft's shop and didn't they have a son? I think my brother used to play with him.

docmel

17-02-2009, 20:36

motty

18-02-2009, 18:01

can't remember wilf crofts son but i remember the shilling slipper baths. i used to hide my swimming trunks under my shirt and go for a swim instead. before the bookies opened on meadow street i used to take a threepence each way bet for my dad up an entry somewhere on meadow street and there was a man sat on the outside toilet with a board across his knees taking bets. does anyone remember little harry ?? the hunchback who lived on saint philips road . when he had been in the meadow at dinnertime jimmy peacock used to lift him up on the back of his cart and take him home. if kids today think they've got it hard try pushing a pram full of washing from meadow street up to the wash house on daniel hill and back at 10 years old.

jean1

18-02-2009, 18:16

I lived opposite the wash house, do you remember you got 30 mins hot water on the sinks for a shilling, the sinks were behind the washing machines. Do you remember the big pull out dryers, my mum used to burn her arms every week.

phantom309

18-02-2009, 20:11

Hi Motty I remember the bookes it was in the yard with entry at the side of the dry cleaners across from Gebherds old shop before he moved to the other side of Ellison Street I recall taking a few bets to him.

docmel

19-02-2009, 08:29

retep

19-02-2009, 09:36

hillsbro

19-02-2009, 10:07

... I'm trying to find out what I can about my husbands great grandfather who, as far as I know, owned a newsagents at 19 Netherthorpe Place. I think I managed to find a picture of it on the Picture Sheffield site so pleased with that so far!

His name was John William Bartholomew and his wife was Ann (nee Dixon). I have no idea of the time period they had the shop or any details really. My father in law has a painting that his uncle painted which showed the shop and that's where I've started really...

I imagine you already know this, but a John W. Bartholomew married an Ann Dixon in Sheffield in the first quarter of 1914. The 1901 census shows a John William Bartholomew, aged 24 and a "wood turner" living not far away with his parents Henry and Annie at 36 Jobson Road.

phantom309

19-02-2009, 14:37

Hi docmel I think I must know you as I lived in the same yard as lttle "Harry" and I would be around 14 when he lost his life in the fire Doug who lived at the back of Harry's house was beaten back by the flames and it was lucky for him as all the floor boards had burnt away and he would have dropped into the celler as I recall he made several attemps to try and get in to harrys room before the fire bridgade arrived it is something that I can still remember after all this time

motty

19-02-2009, 18:35

hi phantom309
yes the circumstances surrounding little harry's death were pretty tragic. i was told all the details by dougies stepson richard who used to be a mate of mine when we were at school. we all used to meet up on the red muck where we played football. in the summer the match would start in the morning and go on until it went dark. howard wilkinson the ex england manager used to come for a game quite often as he used to live on either hoyle street or jobson road.this was of course before he turned professional but he wasn't the best player by a long way.

phantom309

19-02-2009, 18:57

Hi motty I will proberly know you then as I was a couple of years older than Richard and I used to see him later in life as he was lorry driving on car transporters but it must be about 25 years since I saw him last.Howard lived on Hoyle Street the entry to the yard was on Malinda Street, the boy you are thinking of of on Jobson Road was my best mate at school both Netherthorpe and Upperthorpe and played for England school boys the games on the red muck never had any disputes as I remember and there would be anything up to 20 odd a side.

motty

19-02-2009, 20:37

hi phantom309
yes that's right there were often over 20 a side and as some went home for meals others would turn back up again.the best player i remember was john brookes , he never made it to the top in england but played in south africa for a while.he lived on dover street or netherthorpe street and used to spend hours kicking a case stuffed solid with old newspaper against the school wall to build his leg muscles up.

docmel

19-02-2009, 21:02

catherine61

03-03-2009, 22:36

I spent a lot of time on meadow st as a child,I lived there until I was 2 then again when I was 9 until being 10. I lived at 93 my aunts hairdressers,next doorwas sleznic a jewish tailor later to be replaced by Wilfred Croft. O nthe street was becks and there was a back street bookies, at the end was Gaughans fruit shop owned by my Great uncle.round the corner was the butchers,it was a good place too live. iwent to St vincents school

carosio

26-03-2009, 09:21

motty

26-03-2009, 18:54

hi carosio
what were your grandparents called. i lived on bonville street until they pulled them down. ( at No. 12 ) my mum used to send me across the street with an empty bottle to the vinegar brewery and the man who ran the place would fill it up from a huge vat for a couple of coppers.

phantom309

26-03-2009, 21:16

the fish mongers with the rabbits and game hung out side would most likely be "fish Jacks" at the corner of Allen street and the end of Meadow Street when my Ma sent me for a rabbit she always told me to make sure the skin was left on so she could make sure it was a rabbit as they would skin them and cut them up for you but she said if it was whole she could be certain what she was getting was rabbit ha ha .

peppie

10-09-2009, 15:12

This thread is fascinating.

I was just searching on here as my great great great grandfather had a ginger beer shop on the corner of Daisy Bank. Originally George Bartholamew had the shop selling tobacco and coffee from 4am as well as ginger beer etc. My great great great (I think) grandfather Ward then had the shop and my father (Mallender) grew up there.

Just trying to get some more inf oor pictures. I have a fab picture of the shop that I am getting a print of and would be willing to email it to anyone interested. It has posters in the window of what was on at the weston picture palace and how much to get in etc. This poster was displayed in the window of the shop.

Great memories for my father from this thread thank you everyone involved.

danimarie

10-09-2009, 15:58

Hi, I'm Herbiegrass and started this thread. I would like a copy of the photo if you don't mind, and if anyone else out there has any of Meadow Street or Port Mahon I would be happy to have copies. Thanks.:hihi:

painterman

10-09-2009, 16:25

hillsbro

10-09-2009, 16:38

Oh sarsparilla - you could get it at any of the drink shops that were around. The last place that sold it was "Jack's" on Langsett Road - and Jack Lee actually brewed it from scratch instead of using cordial. In the early 1960s my 13 year-old pals and me would prop up the bar there knocking back pints of sarsparilla..:P

hedgehog

03-10-2009, 19:27

Love the stories on this thread.
My Grandad was born in 1915 at 48 Jobson Rd, but I think some family also lived at No 36. Does anyone know exactly where Jobson Rd was? Thanks

phantom309

03-10-2009, 20:53

Love the stories on this thread.
My Grandad was born in 1915 at 48 Jobson Rd, but I think some family also lived at No 36. Does anyone know exactly where Jobson Rd was? Thanks
Hi hedgehog Jobson Road was up the side of the Roscoe Pictures if you know the Wellington pub on Infirmary Road it was a few yards towards Hoyle Street I had some mates who lived up there in the 50s and I know it as all changed around there now so I hope this helps.

winks

04-10-2009, 15:12

I vaguely remember Jobson Road, I think that was the road one of my rellies lived on, Jack and Rennie Murdoch lived on, I don't know the number but it was on the right hand side going up. They moved to the Kelvin Flats when Jobson Road was demolised. Uncle Jack worked for Tennants Brewery.

hedgehog

04-10-2009, 19:09

Thanks - Phantom and Winks - I wonder if Jobson Rd was renamed Roscoe Rd after all the houses and the cinema were demolished. Roscoe Rd is where you describe - the next rd up from the Wellington towards Hoyle St.

spada573

04-10-2009, 19:17

Jobson Road was to the right of the Roscoe cinema looking from the front of the cinema. It was the road before Roscoe Road.

hedgehog

04-10-2009, 19:19

Ahh mystery solved - Thanks for that

phantom309

04-10-2009, 19:25

Thanks sparda 573 I could not remember if it ran up the side of the roscoe or if it was the little road that was a dead end at the back of the roscoe but it is over 50 years ago :D

nosy nellie

04-10-2009, 20:08

My grandparents lived on Bonville St, I was christened at St.Annes. My father lived on Sudbury St, I remember rabbits and pheasants hung outside the fish shop, or was it a butchers? Also, the smell of vinegar from the processors on the corner!

I too was christened at St Anne's and I still have the St Anne's church magazine with all the names of christenings,weddings and funerals taking place that month.And that was a long time ago.
What year were you christened at St Anne's Carosio?

carosio

05-10-2009, 13:36

I too was christened at St Anne's and I still have the St Anne's church magazine with all the names of christenings,weddings and funerals taking place that month.And that was a long time ago.
What year were you christened at St Anne's Carosio?
Sorry-just spotted your post- it was in May 1948! I remember playing around the church and my parents didn't seem unduly concerned about the traffic, probably because there was so little.

carosio

05-10-2009, 13:41

Does anyone remember tales of a serious fire at a cutlery firm in the area? Apparently some workers were killed when a stock of knife handles caught fire, I believe it may have been before the war.

nosy nellie

05-10-2009, 15:27

You were long after, mine was 1944,I remember playing all over that area from Watery Lane and Hammond street where we lived to Weston Park,the playground on the tip now called The Ponderosa,St Stephens playground,Lambert Street flats playground,all the cinemas in the area.THE Roscoe,The Weston.The Oxford,The Unity and The Don.
We wondered all over no harm ever came to us and we were never bored.

carosio

05-10-2009, 17:12

I'll PM you later if thats ok.

nosy nellie

05-10-2009, 19:46

Yes thats okay.

silvi

26-02-2010, 01:30

Wow! What a thread, I have just read them all and memories have come flooding back. I used to Live at 297 St Phillips Road, the house next door to the old Nat West bank at the end of the road where the railings are still there.

I used to walk along Meadow Street to attend Netherthorpe School. Does anyone remember Miss Hammond, Mrs Hayes (dinner lady)?
Hudson's was around then and Ray used to talk to my father alot, they became good friends back then. I still visit the area and just think back to the good days.

Does anyone remember the Ashmores who used to terrorise the area?
Good days, good days....... but everything eventually changes but the memories still last.

i lived at no 183 st philips road..what fond memeories! used to go to meadow-street regularly especially to buy my 1 (old penny) duck from there.was born on st philips rd in 1950 and left in 1957.remember going to nursery at netherfield and then to st stephens school.used to buy broken custards from the bakery at the bottom of st philips rd as they were cheaper and remember the tripe shop on there which everyone bought..remember the corner shop as used quite often and especially the white hart as we lived directly opposite and my dad used to play the piano in there..used to sell fire-wood to neighbours when my dad chopped the piano up as we hadnt much money..then wed get another one which was given away then or an organ..
neighbours were so close a community and often doors left open..

silvi

26-02-2010, 01:43

anyone know edward street flats

yes i remember edward st flats back in 1950s..used to go to my friends house there when was 5 till 7yrs used to swing ourselves round the railings which had steps at the side leading up ..lots of great memories..

silvi

26-02-2010, 01:53

silvi

26-02-2010, 02:01

Shame, the last remaining 'oldie' on Meadow Street has gone.

This picture I took is probably one of the last ones of it...:(

CLICKY HERE FOR A FINAL LOOK AT THE MEADOW ST HOTEL... (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/djash1000_photo/MEADOWPUB0307.jpg)

arh! brings back such fond memories! remember being outside when 5yrs old ..pub full on saturday afternoon my dad arranging a first trip to cleethorpes between 1955 and 1957..

mijco

26-02-2010, 11:53

as usual join a thread towards end i lived bellfield st just up road1955-1958 then moved to firth park,went to st stephens infants,lived at 47 bellfield st dont know if it was called a court but it was a yrd with about 8 houses in,remember jimmy peacock,my cousin was killed trafic acc on st phillips rd when i were about 7 or 8 i always thought she got killed under jimmys horse and kart but my sis said it was a bus or a lorry , we use to play in the wrecked houses ,grand parents wher kirks use to drink in bellfield pub and meadow,mi dad were in army an when he came home so did he,remember co-op on fawcett st opp st stephens church wi air lines for y money,remember most bonfire nites on wrecks use to be about fifty -seventy people all stood round wi baked tatties ,chestnuts ,bonfire toffee what great times,like you all said great communities you cud leave y doors open an all sorts ,brill times for kids.

docmel

26-02-2010, 14:37

i lived at no 183 st philips road..what fond memeories! used to go to meadow-street regularly especially to buy my 1 (old penny) duck from there.was born on st philips rd in 1950 and left in 1957.remember going to nursery at netherfield and then to st stephens school.used to buy broken custards from the bakery at the bottom of st philips rd as they were cheaper and remember the tripe shop on there which everyone bought..remember the corner shop as used quite often and especially the white hart as we lived directly opposite and my dad used to play the piano in there..used to sell fire-wood to neighbours when my dad chopped the piano up as we hadnt much money..then wed get another one which was given away then or an organ..
neighbours were so close a community and often doors left open..

Pity my folks are no longer around Silvi (Mum died last year) I bet they knew you

pjkay

26-02-2010, 15:39

Has anyone got any wonderful memories of this once beautiful street?

My Grandfather owned the betting shop at 119.
It was a brilliant place to live in the sixties ( that's when I was a boy )
every shop you could want was in two small streets, the other one being Netherthorpe place.
Ray Hudson still has a newsagent shop there.

any reminiscences welcome about my old street.

My name is Brian and I lived behind 119 then 117( it was a cobblers shop )

Hi to all in Meadow street history.. My Dad Joe Kenrick Had a bike(cycles and motorbikes later) At the bottom of Watery Street. It was called SMITHS 47/49 Infirmary Rd .Cnr Infirmary Rd and Watery st. Yes remember going up for a Pee at the most lovely wrought Iron Urinal..Yes I remember Watery street and Meadow street..Also the Cops from West Bar Police station chasing me over Scotland street back to the old mans shop.. I was the fastest thing on two 650cc twin wheels in those days. Wonderful days.. I remember, the Booths (two brothers) Charlie and Ernest..?? and the Ingels (Ingles)?? all resident in the area. Years??? 1950 ish.. Peter Kenrick

phantom309

26-02-2010, 16:50

Mijco if your late cousin's name was Susan she was a friend of one of my sisters and the tragic accident would not have been on St. Phillips Road as there was no buses used it if I remember correctly it was on Glossop Road around 1957.

Silvi I can remember your mum and dad and your sister Sheila as I lived in Dover Street but the entry to our yard was in St.Phillips Road I lived there from about 50/51 until 66 when I got married. There was a green grocers next to the top corner of St.Phillips Road and Dover Street which my mates mum ran. One of my brothers George was the same age as you as he was born in 1950.

mijco

26-02-2010, 17:45

hi phantom i think it was susan 2nd name ludlam she would have been about 10-12 yrs old like i said i were only about 7 and always thought it was at bottom of st phillips rd

phantom309

26-02-2010, 19:04

Hi mijco yes it is the same person I did not want to put her surname up as even after all this time it can still cause distress as it is something that you never get over you only come to terms with how to live with it. I can recall my sister Pauline took it very bad and does not like it mentioned even now, I think they had been to Glossop Road baths but that may be wrong but it was afternoon when it happened.

ivandarrell

26-02-2010, 20:37

phantom309

26-02-2010, 21:34

my wife lived at 283 st phillps rd she lived with her gran and grandad hows name was bothamley they were builders and my wifes name was pat halliday andher mam and dads name was john and nelli halliday and she remembers going up an entry to put bets on for her dad she lived there from 1948 to 1955

The bets were put on up an entry on Netherthorpe place at the side of the cleaners and you passed them to some one in the out side toilet at the top of the yard

ivandarrell

26-02-2010, 22:26

thats right every saturday morning she took the bets

mijco

27-02-2010, 15:22

hi phantom you say your sis was a friend of susan she might know my sis she was same age as sue ,mal evans,it remarkable how things fall in to place my granparents were of bellfield st ,my wifes great gran parents were of meadow st and morpeth st but that was 1925 0nwards,most of my ancestral family were all from round this area after moving from london 1890s and from wirksworth in derbyshire round same time.

morpeth

02-03-2010, 20:48

Hello everyone i have just found this website and i am new to this. I was born on bethel street in 1954 but moved to 89 Morpeth street soon after. mom and dad were george and florence smith alan was my older brother and pam my older sister. I used to hang around with young wilf croft, phil glover, chris bradley to name just a few.I remember bodo he was our alans best man i have some great memories of the best time of my life growing up in morpeth street.I used to deliver papers for joe and ray hudson,they knew everyone, also old wilf croft used to be like the local historian I have found this forum realy interesting and look foreward to contributing with the memories i have.

nosy nellie

02-03-2010, 21:02

Come on then Morpeth lets hear them I can't wait,I know some of the Glovers.

phantom309

02-03-2010, 21:11

Come on then Morpeth lets hear them I can't wait,I know some of the Glovers.
Stuart was an excellent footballer and a good mate a long time ago

morpeth

02-03-2010, 21:26

Does anyone remember botts fishing tackle shop on the corner of morpeth street and netherthorpe street there was also the vinegar brewery on the corner of bonvill street and the old stables on netherthorpe street opposite morpeth street im sure they were for dray horses delivering beer they were derilict when i was a kid.I am also sure potty edwards had a shop on the corner of netherthorpe street and port mahon.Jimmy peacock was a fruit and veg man and when he came round all the kids used to feed his horse.I remember there used to be a chap who came round sharpening knives and a bloke who came round on a bike selling onions im sure he wore a beret.we were the last to move out in the slum clearences on morpeth street and they were demolishing houses around us when one of the galble ends fell on our house nearly killing my mom does anyone recall this

phantom309

02-03-2010, 21:45

I can remember the fishing tackle shop used to use it regular and one or two people who lived on there in the 50s and 60s Alan who had a very light blond hair in the crew cut Mick and Pat who was a conductress on the buses and in the 60s Doug who was a bus driver

docmel

03-03-2010, 09:25