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steve1002004
16-06-2004, 16:39
I am now 40 years of age but grew up on the flats on Manor Oaks Road. (now demolished). Top floor St Johns gardens....where everyone useed to jump from!! I went to St John c of e school where there were some fearful teachers, not least the head Mr martin and jean Dodsworth. A force to be reckoned with, much as teachers should be today!! I now work in a large school with a sixth form and to be honest, discipline has dropped over the years. The teachers and senior staff find themselves tied and unable to manage unruly people. Cane and slipper was the order of the day in the 70s and plety of it. Did anyone else go to St Johns or did you live in my block??? Give me a shout!!! Do you remember Steven Dooley, Craig Oprey and the taff sisters Tina and Michelle....wow! Those were the days...
Steve in Rotherham,

Timbuck
16-06-2004, 19:50
I lived on the floor below you at number 76 Rowland Row..The heating and hot water supply was great..rent £4.25 a week..but the lifts hardly worked, and one morning when i woke up I looked from my bedroom window down to the floor below and the Police and an ambulance were there removing the remains of a jumper, He lived about 6 doors away from me..He was an ex school teacher and his wife had died a few months before, and in depression he decided to end it all..Saddly I remember a group of young lads who were measuring the depth of the indentation he had made in the lawn 75 feet below.

Ange
10-07-2004, 19:18
I 2 lived on st johns gardens top floor
dont know if its the same man but a man jumped from outside my door
i also remember a women fell asleep on her balconay sunbathin and fell off under the shops breakin both her legs i think
that was from in1983
then moved 2 live at lowedges in about 1985

Plain Talker
10-07-2004, 20:52
i remember the young woman who fell off her balcony, whilst sunbathing, and, yes it'd be the summer of 83 or 84 when that happened.

I saw it all "kick off". My flat was on the opposite side of the big block, directly overlooking the shops and the Crow's Nest Pub. (I lived on Dacre row, right above the "Target" pub on the Manor Oaks Road end.

I can still remember the screams as she waited for the ambulance.

She was sitting on the balcony rail, sunbathing, and fell asleep. She unbalanced, and fell off the "wrong" side of the balcony, landing in the flower-bed-y thing outside the little shop owned by the pakistani lady (I forget her name, but we were always in her shop for our supplies of cigs and food)

Fortunately for the lass, the flower bed had thick shrubs and stuff which softened her landing. God only knows how bad it would have been if she'd have landed on the concrete instead of the shrubs.

Also iirc, the fall was from one of the lower levels, about chancel row (so it'd have not been as bad, again, as if it would have if she'd have fallen from any higher)

if I recall correctly, the young woman was very lucky, she suffered something as (relatively) minor as a broken hip

PT

Timbuck
10-07-2004, 21:17
There was also a youngster about two years old who fell from a window on the second level, and he got away with no injuries at all.
Also a friend of mine who visited me on night arrived at my front door in a state of distress..While he was waiting for the lift at the Duke Street end of the flats (The Highest point) he heard a sound like a bag of cement hitting the floor..He went round the corner and and saw the body of another jumper...witnesses said he had been hanging around all day on the stairs at St Johns Row.

Timbuck
23-11-2004, 21:02
There were happier times at hyde Park Flats like the time "Monkfords"(the tent and tarpaulin manufactures) caught fire
We all had great afternoon standing or sitting on the balconies watching the event below..I remember an old gent walking passed the burning building and he stepped over a hose pipe, and it burst under him ( the Firemen had a problem with high water pressure that day and several pipes burst) the poor old gent was just stepping over a weak pipe as it split, water shot up inside his raincoat and spouted out of his neck and sleeves..It looked very funny at the time "but not for him".. A Police car came to his attendance and took him off home to dry out.

segasonic
23-11-2004, 23:57
I lived on High Pavement Row, number 48 I believe, circa 1982. I remember a horrible incident of an 8 year old girl having one of those old-fashioned massive televisions land on her, thrown from one of the balconies and killing her instantly. :( Am I right?
I went to St John's School at the time, teachers I recall are Mrs Godbehere and I *think* one called Mrs Powell...
Does anyone else remember the derilict dog track? I used to be fascinated by the giant scoreboard. (Probably wasn't fantastically massive, but it looked it to a 6 year old!)

steevie/d
24-11-2004, 06:57
my mate had a flat on dacre row and all i can rember is the ants dont no wheather all the flats were the same but here were hundreds of the little bliters in his flat happy days eh!!!

Plain Talker
24-11-2004, 08:59
I remember the little girl getting killed. it was a 15 yr old lad who threw the telly off the upper floors I I R C. I believe he was "not quite a full shilling" although that does not excuse what he did.

the problem was even then, anything and everything that could be thrown, got thrown off the balconies. (from animals to garbage)

I remember the landlady of the "Target" pub and her three little yorkie terriers, when she used to take them onto the grass outside for their last "wee" at night, all the dead-heads would be cobbing milk bottles and rubbish bags over the balconies, she'd be dodging the missiles... (there really were some lame-brained imbeciles!)

I remember the milkman (and the shops on the parade below the flats) being made to stop selling milk in bottles, because of the frequency with which the bottles got (coff!) "recycled" as throwing objects.
we had to put up with the horrible "Krypton Factor" cartons (as in 'it takes a "Krypton Factor" contestant to fathom out the mechanics of pulling the carton flaps apart and opening the "spout" bit out without either ripping the carton, or spilling the contents all over yourself, the floor and the worktop!')

on the nights before "bin-day" everyone would leave their black sacks of rubbish outside the flat doors, and the caretakers would drive a weird electric "Kart" along the landings, with some massive "paladin" bins (industrial-sized circular bins) and collect the garbage.
well, the caretakers collected what rubbish was actually *left*, on the landings, after the drunken idiots had traversed their merry way along the landing, and hurled the rubbish over the balconies.

You'd hear the sound of the imbecile drunkards, running, above your head, at about midnight, and 1, maybe 2 in the morning. and this sort of "Whee-thud-splatter" noise as the bags went over, whizzed past your bedroom window, and struck the concrete below, spilling the contents all over.

[b] steevie d.. I lived on Dacre row, too! I lived bang-smack above the Target pub... it's 20 years, nearly, now since.. i was there 83 to 86-ish, and I well- remember the ants. They were a real pain in the neck, because they were, literally everywhere.

the environmental health (EHO) used to come along, and put little Phials of ant-poison/ and ant -bait down all through the flat. It was only a "stop-gap measure", the council could not eradicate them, ( I was told) because on the flats complex, there was a "hard-core" of about about a dozen flats, where the residents would not allow the EHO access to their flats. The ants were nesting, breeding, and congregating there, and using the service ducts to spread through the rest of the buildings. the ants were no respecter of persons!

I remember buying a loaf of bread from the shop that used to be the co-op (the one nearest the Crows Nest pub and the housing office) a thick-sliced Fletchers loaf... it was around the time that they changed from the greaseproof paper wrapper to the cellophane bags. I got back to my flat, put the loaf down on my worktop, went nto the fridge for my sanwich filling, and by the time i had turned back, to make my sarnie, the rotten ants ahd got into the loaf, through a split in the wrapper, and they were through all the slices!
UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you remember the shops?

from my right, as you looked at the shops, from my front door, there was the Paper shop next to the community centre, then there was a sort of freezer food/ mini market place, then there was a little shop owned by a Pakistani lady, called Sue.(Sue was okay, cos you could get "strap" off her if you were skint, a day or so before your girocheque was due! lol She used too write down what you'd had in a little book and you could go in and pay her on giro day) there was the community shop/drop-in and advice centre, which I think used to be a hairdressers. then there was the old co-op which got taken over by an asian bloke. Then, finally, there was the bookies and the housing office, all along that parade of shops.(with the crows Nest pub, right at the very end, by the lifts)

oh, memories!

PT

kirky
24-11-2004, 11:10
does anyone remember the lad getting his head chopped off....both the inner and outer doors had the little glass window smashed he put his head through both of them and someone called the lift.......it was around 78ish.........still goes through me now thinking about it:|

tattoo
24-11-2004, 12:06
I grw up on Park Hill Flats,quite a few of the kids from Hyde Park came to our school.My aunts, uncles etc lived on Hyde Park, Wybourn, Manor & Manor Park.This area is my childhood. God, those teacher at Park Hill school were scary,still we were better behaved and knew about respect.I was a bridesmaid for my cousin at St Johns church, and seem to remember there being ayouth club there (of sorts).Park Hill picture palace,Violet Mays a the bottom of south street,Duke Street chippy (YES !). the pig stys on sky edge. Park baths, and Park library where your life was in danger if you so much as dared to make a noise.

Lots of happy memories of old friends and times gone by. The place still stays with me now and holds so much fondness even though we had some very hard times back then.

Timbuck
24-11-2004, 12:25
In the 60's I used to play bass guitar in one or two pop groups around Sheffield..I used to have a large bass bin and amplifier and an Epiphone bass...I'd fitted wheels on the bass bin so i could roll my equipment from the lift along the corridors to my flat on Roland Row, one night I got dropped off outside the flats about 2 am unloaded my equipment from the van, said goodnight to the band lads and trundled across to the lift..guess what?? lift not working. So all on my own I proceded to cart my heavy gear up the stairway( was the one at The Duke Street end) what a pain, it seemed like hours later when I finaly got to Roland Row and rolled my load up to the front Door..I was completely Knackered...I should have taken up the flute.

docmel
24-11-2004, 20:57
I can remember playing with some mates in the graveyard at St.Johns in the 1960's. There was one grave which used to give me the willies - as far as I can recall the inscription read something like:

'this is a mystery grave - whoever can solve the mystery of this tomb will ......'

I cannot remember anymore, but as a young kid it really gave me the creeps.

Can anyone else remember this?

tattoo
26-11-2004, 10:31
I dont remember that prticular grave,but we used to cut through the graveyard on the way home from my auties on the wybourn.My sister allway used to wait till we got halfway through it and then leg it leaving me quaking with terror and screaming like a nutter.She thought it was hilarious , me i just peed my self!.Oh well the joys of growing up.

One thing i do remember is everyone sitting on the grassed area that looked down over Midland Station to watch Wednesday in their bus after the werein the cup final(the one they lost)

gezmac
14-12-2004, 07:25
I never lived on the flats but had a few friends who did, I lived on Broomall flats. I used to go to the hide away club & we would hang around on the shops before we were allowed in & it was unbelievable the stuff that were thrown over the balconys.There were yellow markings painted on the floor these were areas not to walk on or be very careful if you did (danger zones) I used to knock about with 2 lads that jumped 1 lived & 1 died, the 1 that lived turned to Jesus & became Christian.

The557
18-12-2004, 13:42
tattoo

I wonder if you knew a lad named Terry Hunt.
All I can say is he lived in Parkhill Flats back in the 1960s. Maybe top floor but unclear. Used to ride a Triumph 350.
I remember leaving his place with another mate (Colin Bedell from Shiregreen) in a bit of a state in frosty weather and attempting to walk down a steep grass bank- to some road - result being a decent dual somersault act and my Burtons suit with a short right leg.
Looked good on the bus.

mshaw
26-07-2005, 20:46
segasonic
I remember the girl that was hit inthe head with a TV, she was my friend in school at St. Johns. We had a moment of time for her in class, my teachers name at the time was Mr.Stubbs, hated him.
I remember the dog track too, we lived right across from it on Derwent Row. Michelle

Plain Talker
26-07-2005, 21:09
Originally posted by gezmac
I never lived on the flats but had a few friends who did, I lived on Broomall flats. I used to go to the hide away club & we would hang around on the shops before we were allowed in & it was unbelievable the stuff that were thrown over the balconys.There were yellow markings painted on the floor these were areas not to walk on or be very careful if you did (danger zones) I used to knock about with 2 lads that jumped 1 lived & 1 died, the 1 that lived turned to Jesus & became Christian.

the lad that survived is a friend of mine. he survived, but with very severe injuries.

PT

haggis
29-07-2005, 00:07
i lived on lord row , drank in the target landlord was dennis? landlady margaret ? barman was.horice me & toby spent some cash in there along with derek c who lived above it .
anyone remember mexican des? the lady in the shop was sue? and she did give tick but got ripped off all the time des used to lower down a basket and shout to anyone who was passing to get him a loaf ect and give him a shout when they came back , the money was in the basket and nobody ripped des off!

Plain Talker
29-07-2005, 10:18
Yes I remember mexican des... he lived just above the shops.

he passed away within the last couple of years or so...

I've mentioned Sue, and her shop, on here. She was a laugh. We used to get stuff on strap from her, as we were on benefit, and had the kids to feed, it was hard to manage, especially those last couple of days, when you are "scratching", before the giro came...

PT

Jan39
29-07-2005, 22:55
Originally posted by segasonic
I lived on High Pavement Row, number 48 I believe, circa 1982. I remember a horrible incident of an 8 year old girl having one of those old-fashioned massive televisions land on her, thrown from one of the balconies and killing her instantly. :( Am I right?
I went to St John's School at the time, teachers I recall are Mrs Godbehere and I *think* one called Mrs Powell...
Does anyone else remember the derilict dog track? I used to be fascinated by the giant scoreboard. (Probably wasn't fantastically massive, but it looked it to a 6 year old!)

Yes I remember reading about this in The Star when it happened.

BILDEBORG
30-07-2005, 15:02
I lived on the Hyde Park flats for a while.....43 Dacre Row I think. I well remember the tv going over the side and landing on a little girl, dont remember the ants but my place was riddled with silver fish. Those 'garchey' systems in the kitchen sinks were forever clogging up. I hear now that they are demolished and went into filling in the hole in the road.....best place for them.

Sandy_L
02-09-2005, 01:10
I lived on Lord Row from when the were built until 71, the view from our living room window was the dog track, but I went to Wybourn school.

canadablade
04-09-2005, 16:06
Originally posted by BILDEBORG
I lived on the Hyde Park flats for a while.....43 Dacre Row I think. I well remember the tv going over the side and landing on a little girl, dont remember the ants but my place was riddled with silver fish. Those 'garchey' systems in the kitchen sinks were forever clogging up. I hear now that they are demolished and went into filling in the hole in the road.....best place for them.

You might have been my next door neighbour , we lived at 42 Dacre Row.You could see the Target pub from the living room window ( we were above the shops ) and that grass bit in the middle where we always played football.Our balcony faced the St.John's church side..The football was always getting booted over the railing and we would look over the side and see where it landed then one of us would have to go and get it, 20 minutes later the match would continue.You weren't the one who kept pretending he was Alan Woodward where you , He was proper :loopy:
Feel bad now but, as kids we used to play knock and run on "Deaf and Dumb man " ...
Still not figured out why he chased us. How do you hear the bell or us singing "deaf and dumbman, deaf and dumbman hey hey hey deaf and dumbman " If you are D & D :heyhey:

I went to Park Hill school at the time and if i remember right the kid who had his head chopped off was Mark Travis he went there as well , he was on top of the lift though Kirky when someone called for it, some kids at that time used to do what was called riding the lift .

Anybody else remember the SALLY ANN playing on sunday mornings and waking everybody up and then we would be chucking coins at them and watching a couple of them scarper around like little ants picking up the rolling coins
:hihi:

Childhood memories you never forget :D

Regards Canada Blade

pete_fcs
05-09-2005, 18:11
i have some photographs of hyde park flats..... click below:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/hyde%20park%20flats/

these were taken mainly late eighties/ early nineties. i lived there for a year in 1992 after the refurbishment. i didn't like it as all the landings had been closed in, and tried moving back to kelvin, but that was due for demolition, so i ended up at park hill instead!

Dinkychink
05-09-2005, 18:49
hey yo!
i was bowled over to find this about hyde park flats,i used to live on chancel row number 56 or 58 i think..it was on the stairs,creeepy they were especialy at night.
i remember the target pub and i can remember derek chambers cause i used to hang around with his lad craig..can ur remember micheal comber who use to live on st johns row cause i know him too..i can remember the electric carts used by the porters and i can remember when they updated them to faster zippier ones too!..i think they had a yelow one and a orange un
i can remember when near the shops it used to be flat and they came along and built all manner of stuff to try and tidy the place up...there was a little park up near the target pub and i can still remember the jcb with the hydraulic hammer smashing it up...remember the marble sign on the wall near the community centre,it was a browny color about who opened the flats..people used to use it as a ledge to get down off that grass bit above.
hey yo too...i can remember mexican des too cause he knew me to talk too and my dad Mick Evans.
we moved away to norfolk park sometime in the 80's but i have many memories of this place still today and most days i think back to the great BMX catch me if ur can cat and mouse games we' d play around the landings.
i went to st johns school temp and park hill too and i remember the day before we 'd had a game of tiggy and i tried to carry it on nxt morning...only prob was i tug him nxt morning with a pot on my arm forgeting it was on my arm and he was not amused!
still hyde park was great if ur had a bike cause it cut city road out! u could come from town and use it to get to sky edge then across to the BMX track across the road where the 96 bus used to run...by the way i was at the meeting in the comunity centre that helped design that bmx track.
i can remeber the police station being built near the shops because they reckoned it would help curb crime on the flats.
i remeber sue too at the shop cause my dad used to go in too and "scrap" betwen giros and if ur did nt pay her lad would come and !ask ur! .
Can ur remember the (sorry to call em this) rapper lot? one moved away to wyborne and one was a colored youth.
can you remember the paintings they did near the porters offices....i helped out with those on the days away to hull and cleethorpes etc with a group involved in them.
I could go on and on cause i 've many merories.

pete_fcs
05-09-2005, 19:17
Originally posted by Dinkychink
...remember the marble sign on the wall near the community centre,it was a browny color about who opened the flats..people used to use it as a ledge to get down off that grass bit above...


it said "opened by the queen mother" etc. i've got a picture of it if anyone's interested!

my dad went to a meeting just before the opening of the flats. one of the planning team nearly got booted out 'cos he said the flats would be slums in twenty years' time!:)

Dinkychink
05-09-2005, 19:41
Yes Pllllllz...Any Photos And Pics Would Be Vvvvvery Gratefull!
I Carnt Believe I ve Managed To Get The Photos Off This Site Of Before It Went As Id Have Lost Them Forever.
I Remember Des As Looking Abit Like Frank Butcher .
How Right Him At The Meeting Was About In Twenty Years Time The State Of The Flats Would Be.What A Waste Of Money ETC They Spent On That So Called Improvements In The Centre Near The Shops.

koritsi
05-09-2005, 20:28
Originally posted by pete_fcs
it said "opened by the queen mother" etc. i've got a picture of it if anyone's interested!



Pete, I would be very interested to see the photo - Thanks! :)

I used to live at 93 Bevis Row

pauline
06-09-2005, 00:06
my sister moved onto chequers row,just after they had been built,we watched the big block being built,i had a friend called graham,who lived on st johns gardens,i moved to ropery row and was there till we had to move for student games,my kids went to st johns,my mother in law lived at 46 high pavement row,we went for our dinner,my kids ,were out playing,i went to shout them in ,and they were screaming to this little lass to run,ive known the family for years,they moved the lad and his family,pretty much straight away,it was a few year before her parents moved,i loved it on there,thanks for the fotos pete,it brought back some memories.:)

Dinkychink
06-09-2005, 09:09
i remember on hyde park when they come round every flat and changed the locks for ones you could open from the inside with no keys...the little kids would put there arms thru the letterboxes and be able to unlock ur front door when ur wernt in!!!!!!! that is till they come round with them letter box plates and the door handle gaurds!
i remember one of the porters too..his name was granville..he had artharitis in his leg and moved his job to work on park hill after hyde park.
off bevis row i can remember kirk (he knew bono and they both were a wizard on the bmx's) who moved to wyborn...pete lawson...claire and samantha who were sisters.

can ur remember the sinks on hyde park too...they had a drain pipe sized piece ud pull up to let ur waste down...phhewww they always use to smell never mind how much bleach etc ud use.

More Photos Please Pete...As Many As Ur Got!

Plain Talker
06-09-2005, 10:00
Originally posted by Dinkychink
i remember on hyde park when they come round every flat and changed the locks for ones you could open from the inside with no keys...the little kids would put there arms thru the letterboxes and be able to unlock ur front door when ur wernt in!!!!!!! that is till they come round with them letter box plates and the door handle gaurds!
i remember one of the porters too..his name was granville..he had artharitis in his leg and moved his job to work on park hill after hyde park.
off bevis row i can remember kirk (he knew bono and they both were a wizard on the bmx's) who moved to wyborn...pete lawson...claire and samantha who were sisters.

can ur remember the sinks on hyde park too...they had a drain pipe sized piece ud pull up to let ur waste down...phhewww they always use to smell never mind how much bleach etc ud use.

More Photos Please Pete...As Many As Ur Got!

I remember the locks change, very well. That would have been in about 1985. I remember the bars they put down the door jambs to strengthen them, and the glassed panels beside each front door being replaced by that laminated glass. (I remember that a lot of them had attempts to smash them, and all it did was craze the glass, they didn't go through , (well, not as a rule, anyway)

I remember granville, the caretaker, very well, he was a nice bloke, a hard worker at a thankless task (keeping the landings an d communal areas clean) very friendly and helpful, always had time for a kind word or two.

I don't remember the folk mentioned on bevis row, but i do remember the garchey sink systems. I think the garcheys would probably have worked if everyone had kept their particular bits clean, but not everyone did, i used to scrub mine out with bleach and all sorts of cleaners.

One of my neighbours had decorated her kitchen, and it looked really nice... then, a few days later, there was a problem with the garchey. Someone above or below her flat had blocked the system up, and the waste was "backed up".

Can you see where this is going?

yes....

The blockage "gave" very suddenly, and explosively.....

and...

sprayed stinking, putrid waste all over her newly decorated kitchen.

Ugh! it was dreadful!

PT

Dinkychink
06-09-2005, 11:10
(I lived on Dacre row, right above the "Target" pub on the Manor Oaks Road end.

i surprised ur dont remember me..aint it a small world cause id have gone by ur many a time.we lived on chancel row me and my dad on the stairs in the corner near the news agents end and he was well known on the flats.
we lived opposite pete who worked for tuffnells parcells...i know i would 'nt go back and live on em again.

pete_fcs
06-09-2005, 17:15
Originally posted by koritsi
Pete, I would be very interested to see the photo - Thanks! :)



i will look for it now.... just a mo!:)

pete_fcs
06-09-2005, 17:54
phew...got it!

(all these pics are copyright pete fcs):

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/sheffield/HYDEPARKPLAQUE.jpg

pete_fcs
06-09-2005, 18:41
Originally posted by Dinkychink
...

More Photos Please Pete...As Many As Ur Got!


i've quite a few more, i will put them online, but it might take a while as there's a lot of kerfuffle involved!:)

koritsi
07-09-2005, 07:21
Originally posted by koritsi
Pete, I would be very interested to see the photo - Thanks! :)

I used to live at 93 Bevis Row

THANKYOU Pete for putting it on :D

chri5
08-09-2005, 14:35
Once again great photo's Pete.

Was it true that they filled the hole in the road in with the demolished Hyde Park?

pete_fcs
08-09-2005, 17:35
yes it's true!

according to the star and telegraph at the time, it was cheaper to bury it than cart it miles off, although i think some was sold to make roads.

maybe it didn't all fit in the hole!

maybe someone left an old settee in their flat, and there's a tram driving over it every ten minutes!:hihi:

pete_fcs
08-09-2005, 17:40
Originally posted by koritsi
THANKYOU Pete for putting it on :D

glad it has finally been seen and appreciated!

wasn't sure why i took it at the time, but i just thought it looked a bit odd, this posh-looking marble plaque with the queen mother mentioned on it, in the middle of this massive bare concrete building!

my dad's got some photo's from before the flats were occupied, but it will be a while before i can put those on. i'm stood in one of them, in a romper suit!

in the meantime here are four more on of the flats being demolished, and people running to escape the cloud of dust like a scene from 9/11.

:thumbsup:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/hyde%20park%20flats/

Dinkychink
09-09-2005, 11:32
What Great Photos Pete...You Can Almost Feel The Action And Hear The Noise As These Photos Are 100% Excellant!!!!

You've Caught The Effect Of Them Clappsing At An Absolute Spot On Moment.....

Keep Them Coming.... I Know Not Only Me But Everybody Else On "Ere" Will Treasure Em For Time T Come!

canadablade
09-09-2005, 16:25
You ever think about doing a "HYDE PARK FLATS" book m8 ?
You have the pictures etc and i'm betting you would sell loads of copies because millions lived in them flats at one time or another and
theres a million and one stories to be told :hihi:

Regards Canada Blade

pete_fcs
10-09-2005, 18:53
thanks dinkychink and canadablade!

i've often thought i could do a book on hyde park, park hill and kelvin, as i lived on all three for ten years and have hundreds of photos.

i had thought it might be best to wait a bit, as most sheffield photo books refer back to twenty odd years ago at least, but there maybe an exception with these estates, given they have either all gone/ are changing beyond recognition.

and yeah, there will have been 3,000 people on the estates, with an average of 3 years per tenancy (according to the council) giving about 75,000 ex-tenants of all three estates who might want to buy it (minus 70,000 that would rather forget all about it!).

there is a book on kelvin available from the library, which i did with a couple of friends, containing poems, a drawing and some photos.

it was printed in 1992 and is called "life is wonderful on kelvin flats".

when i last looked there was a copy at surrey street and a reference copy at the local studies library...but it's only a very thin book!:)

oggy park
22-05-2006, 18:19
I grew up on parkhill flats and always remember them building hyde park we used to go up and pinch the lids off the big tins of paint they used. They had an handle in the middle and you could hold them like a shield, we'd all seen the spartans at park pictures and thought it was brill that we had these shields. Also my dad had to buy a clock after they were built because we lied over the link pub and used to look at St Johns church clock for the time which you couldn't see after hyde park was built. I remember the sally army coming round and we would through pennies down,can any one remember the old sally army place on rhodes st after it was knocked down it was known as the back grass and we used to play football on it. I also remember the girl who got killed on hyde park with the telly her name was Lisa Dean I worked at the same place as her father Les. The lad who had his head chopped off happened on parkhill I remember the night it happened and I know a couple of the lads who were in the lift at the time.

Timbuck
22-05-2006, 19:56
i remember on hyde park when they come round every flat and changed the locks for ones you could open from the inside with no keys...the little kids would put there arms thru the letterboxes and be able to unlock ur front door when ur wernt in!!!!!!! that is till they come round with them letter box plates and the door handle gaurds!
i remember one of the porters too..his name was granville..he had artharitis in his leg and moved his job to work on park hill after hyde park.
off bevis row i can remember kirk (he knew bono and they both were a wizard on the bmx's) who moved to wyborn...pete lawson...claire and samantha who were sisters.

can ur remember the sinks on hyde park too...they had a drain pipe sized piece ud pull up to let ur waste down...phhewww they always use to smell never mind how much bleach etc ud use.

More Photos Please Pete...As Many As Ur Got!There was a spate on Roland Row when the Milk Cheques or Money was being nicked by somone out of the boxes where the milk was placed...One morning my Wife sat in the doorway beside the box waiting for somone to lift the lid (you'd have to have lived there to know what i mean)..Anyway when the lid was lifted and a hand dipped in to nick the cash, She was like a "ferret going for a rabbit" grabbing the hand and hanging on like grim death..I came to her rescue and opened the door..I found a terrified young lad about 13 years old clutching onto our milk money and unable to escape...I won't say what I did to him, but the nicking stopped that day onwards.

GrinderBloke
28-05-2006, 20:57
does anyone remember the lad getting his head chopped off....both the inner and outer doors had the little glass window smashed he put his head through both of them and someone called the lift.......it was around 78ish.........still goes through me now thinking about it:|

My mothers worked as a clearner at The Royal Hallamshire, one of the other cleaners was taken away by her supervisor... the woman was the mother of the lad who died.

I don't recall the date, but I thought it was earlier than '78 (too much Wards and Stoness has dimmed my memory over the years) I seem to recall the lads where on top of the lift, one lad got decapitated with the weights which you could see going in the opposite direct to your lift.

Someone called the lift and the lads were not expecting it :(

Pitty the firemen who had to attend that incident

As I recall lads riding on top of the lifts wasn't too unusual! Often the outer doors would be open with no lift in sight, health and safety people wouldn't be too impressed these days.

babs2307
31-05-2006, 01:34
I remember the flats. My nan used to live on Stafford Row. I think it was the 13 floor, or something like that, along with the ants. I think the council started charging rent because there were so many.
The amount of times i walked up those stairs, because the lifts were either not working or you were scared that you'd get stuck in them, was unbelievable. I was a bit sad though when they got knocked down, as it was the last bit of history of the old Sheff.

Up the Owls

Babs

Plain Talker
31-05-2006, 19:22
I remember the flats. My nan used to live on Stafford Row. I think it was the 13 floor, or something like that, along with the ants. I think the council started charging rent because there were so many.
The amount of times i walked up those stairs, because the lifts were either not working or you were scared that you'd get stuck in them, was unbelievable. I was a bit sad though when they got knocked down, as it was the last bit of history of the old Sheff.

Up the Owls

Babs

there was a Stepney row on HPF, and a Snow Hill Row, this would be the smallest block, nearest the park square roundabout, that had Stepney, Snow hill and Link rows. but they were low down on the little block, (even with three levels per row, there was no more than ten stories on that block)
on the big block it was bevis, chancel, dacre, lord, rowland and st john's rows,
on the small block it was rubens. link and high pavement, (I forget the "gardens"name on the top of that row. this is the green block, now called "Harold Lambert Court") then on the long low block, that's now clad in red, and called "Castle Court", there was Bungay, Chequers, Derwent and Ropery rows, with Cricket Inn Gardens on the very top.

(on Park Hill flats it was Gilbert, Hague, Long-henry and Norwich rows)

PT

Timbuck
31-05-2006, 19:59
there was a Stepney row on HPF, and a Snow Hill Row, this would be the smallest block, nearest the park square roundabout, that had Stepney, Snow hill and Link rows. but they were low down on the little block, (even with three levels per row, there was no more than ten stories on that block)
on the big block it was bevis, chancel, dacre, lord, rowland and st john's rows,
on the small block it was rubens. link and high pavement, (I forget the "gardens"name on the top of that row. this is the green block, now called "Harold Lambert Court") then on the long low block, that's now clad in red, and called "Castle Court", there was Bungay, Chequers, Derwent and Ropery rows, with Cricket Inn Gardens on the very top.

(on Park Hill flats it was Gilbert, Hague, Long-henry and Norwich rows)

PTHey up! PT youve got a good memory, I can only remember Dacer and Rowland and Lord...Lord should have been above St John if you think about it.

Plain Talker
31-05-2006, 21:11
for things like that, timbuck, yeah, I have a good memory, it's like having alzheimers... I can tell you what I had for tea when I was five years old, but ask me what I had for tea yesterday... Pheh! no blinking chance! lol

PT

coyleys
31-05-2006, 22:03
[QUOTE=GrinderBloke]
I don't recall the date, but I thought it was earlier than '78 (too much Wards and Stoness has dimmed my memory over the years) I seem to recall the lads where on top of the lift, one lad got decapitated with the weights which you could see going in the opposite direct to your lift.
Someone called the lift and the lads were not expecting it :(QUOTE]
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Yep! That’s how I recall the story being told, also by my mother, but the date would be about 1968-70.

Timbuck
31-05-2006, 22:16
for things like that, timbuck, yeah, I have a good memory, it's like having alzheimers... I can tell you what I had for tea when I was five years old, but ask me what I had for tea yesterday... Pheh! no blinking chance! lol

PT Now then PT..My other half has just said she remembers Chaucer Row ..Where was that then?

Plain Talker
31-05-2006, 22:27
There were chequers and chancel rows to my recollection, can't remember a chaucer, very well, unless.. ah... *she perks* it was on the same block as reubens row?

PT

oggy park
08-06-2006, 20:36
There was no chaucer row plain talker is bang on, also no stafford row and no 13 stories.

taylor1
09-06-2006, 11:17
I lived on Ropery Row from 1980-89, we moved of when they were doing the modernisations and was re-housed in Hillsborough. I had a lot of friends whilst I lived there and lost contact with most of them which was sad, I also went to St Johns School. I remember;

Lee Wisdom
Eve Bernard
Roland&kenneth Brisset
Gaynor&Simone Grant ( who I'm still in contact with)
Matthew&mark Marples
Neil hartley
James Glover
Christopher Dingely

Ahhh, there were loads, they were good times.
Hello!!! to any of you who may be out there:D

taylor1
09-06-2006, 11:19
i remember on hyde park when they come round every flat and changed the locks for ones you could open from the inside with no keys...the little kids would put there arms thru the letterboxes and be able to unlock ur front door when ur wernt in!!!!!!! that is till they come round with them letter box plates and the door handle gaurds!
i remember one of the porters too..his name was granville..he had artharitis in his leg and moved his job to work on park hill after hyde park.
off bevis row i can remember kirk (he knew bono and they both were a wizard on the bmx's) who moved to wyborn...pete lawson...claire and samantha who were sisters.

can ur remember the sinks on hyde park too...they had a drain pipe sized piece ud pull up to let ur waste down...phhewww they always use to smell never mind how much bleach etc ud use.

More Photos Please Pete...As Many As Ur Got!
I remember claire and Samantha... I used to hang about with them:D

NorthernSoul
09-06-2006, 16:40
my grandparents Reg & Elsie lived on Chequers Row. Anyone remember them? they both died in their 50s around 1985.

I remember the Plimsoll? pub. it had a little climbing frame outside i think.

i used to stay with my grandparents during the early 80s (i would have been about 10 years old) and was terrified of the place. having grew up at the other side of the city i used to find it all very daunting. I remember the story about the little girl being killed by a TV thrown over the balcony.

would often walk to the great little sweet shop near park sq roundabout. i also remember the BT depot just up from chequers row?

its all a bit hazy as i was only a kid.

I am 32 and still suffer with the odd nightmare where I am lost on Hyde Park flats - 20 years since I was there! :loopy:

I ended up seeing a girl on Park Hill a few years back and although not the same block, it brought back lots of memories.

good thread :thumbsup:

bladegirl34
22-08-2007, 19:33
segasonic
I remember the girl that was hit inthe head with a TV, she was my friend in school at St. Johns. We had a moment of time for her in class, my teachers name at the time was Mr.Stubbs, hated him.
I remember the dog track too, we lived right across from it on Derwent Row. Michelle

i used to go and stop at my dads and grandad at weekends who lived on the pavement and hung around with the girl. her parents lived a few doors away from my dad

Plain Talker
22-08-2007, 19:55
(snippitty) I had a lot of friends whilst I lived there and lost contact with most of them which was sad, I also went to St Johns School. I remember;
Christopher Dingely

Ahhh, there were loads, they were good times.
Hello!!! to any of you who may be out there:D


i know chris dingley and his sister, I also know his parents.

Plain Talker
22-08-2007, 20:00
my grandparents Reg & Elsie lived on Chequers Row. Anyone remember them? they both died in their 50s around 1985.

I remember the Plimsoll? pub. it had a little climbing frame outside i think.

i used to stay with my grandparents during the early 80s (i would have been about 10 years old) and was terrified of the place. having grew up at the other side of the city i used to find it all very daunting. I remember the story about the little girl being killed by a TV thrown over the balcony.

would often walk to the great little sweet shop near park sq roundabout. i also remember the BT depot just up from chequers row?

its all a bit hazy as i was only a kid.

I am 32 and still suffer with the odd nightmare where I am lost on Hyde Park flats - 20 years since I was there! :loopy:

I ended up seeing a girl on Park Hill a few years back and although not the same block, it brought back lots of memories.

good thread :thumbsup:

I don't remember the Samuel Plimsoll pub having the climbing frame outside it. there was a play area a bit further over, nearer the old church. could that be it?

The Target pub, on the biggest block, had a climbing frame and play area nearby. In fact, as I type, I'm looking at a "shweeeet" photo of my stepsons, from 1984/5 taken of the boys, infant school-age, sitting on top of the tube-y thing you could crawl through (In the days when it was safe to crawl through it!!) with the flats behind them.

bladegirl34
22-08-2007, 20:06
I don't remember the Samuel Plimsoll pub having the climbing frame outside it. there was a play area a bit further over, nearer the old church. could that be it?

The Target pub, on the biggest block, had a climbing frame and play area nearby. In fact, as I type, I'm looking at a "shweeeet" photo of my stepsons, from 1984/5 taken of the boys, infant school-age, sitting on top of the tube-y thing you could crawl through (In the days when it was safe to crawl through it!!) with the flats behind them.

i remember the slide near the church yard it was made of concreate i fell of it and cut my mouth open

dynamicdebz
22-08-2007, 23:00
My sister lived on reubens row, so as a young teen i use to hang out there around 81 - 85. They were good fdriends with mexican des (bless him) & used Sue s shop on the tick on a daily basis. Never had to have there name put in the window though.
I remember hearing about the girl who had the TV land on her & many other jumpers but never saw anything gruesome myself.
Oh the memories!

I was brought up on Broomhill flats like gez so understand the problems of living in high rise inner city flats, but to a young child there was so much exploring to do.

bladegirl34
23-08-2007, 15:27
My sister lived on reubens row, so as a young teen i use to hang out there around 81 - 85. They were good fdriends with mexican des (bless him) & used Sue s shop on the tick on a daily basis. Never had to have there name put in the window though.
I remember hearing about the girl who had the TV land on her & many other jumpers but never saw anything gruesome myself.
Oh the memories!

I was brought up on Broomhill flats like gez so understand the problems of living in high rise inner city flats, but to a young child there was so much exploring to do.

YES THERE WAS ALOT OF JUMPERS ON THE FLATS.DES WAS A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MY DADS I CALLED HIM UNCLE DES HE ALWAYS CALLED ME SWEET PEA THEN STARTED CALIING IT MY DAUGHTER WHEN I HAD HER.MISS HIM LOTS

sTaGeWaLkEr
23-08-2007, 16:30
Friendly Mod note: Please don't use all block capitals when posting on the forum.

Thanks

lyndix
23-08-2007, 19:09
My mum used to work in the paper shop on hyde park, I used to love going with my dad to pick her up, always got a mix up and carton of pop!!

allthegearno
30-08-2007, 11:38
segasonic
I remember the girl that was hit inthe head with a TV, she was my friend in school at St. Johns. We had a moment of time for her in class, my teachers name at the time was Mr.Stubbs, hated him.
I remember the dog track too, we lived right across from it on Derwent Row. Michelle

i remember the dog track my dad was on the door of the club
ted savage we used to live on daker row

allthegearno
30-08-2007, 11:47
I lived on the Hyde Park flats for a while.....43 Dacre Row I think. I well remember the tv going over the side and landing on a little girl, dont remember the ants but my place was riddled with silver fish. Those 'garchey' systems in the kitchen sinks were forever clogging up. I hear now that they are demolished and went into filling in the hole in the road.....best place for them.hi i lived at i think it was No 46 daker row in the late 60s
early 70s my dad used to be on the door at the dog track
do you remember me steve savage my mates were john and dennis wilson and martin dessay i think thats how you spell it
if anyone remembers me and would like to chat my email is savage.57@hotmail.com

allthegearno
30-08-2007, 12:11
does anyone remember the old lady that used to give us all sweats
until one day she was beaten to death with the brass pedel from a piano the young lad was remanded to the queens pleasure
late 60s early70s dont remember his name iremember at the time they said the flat was covered in blood as he had hit her several times

allthegearno
01-09-2007, 07:17
I lived on Lord Row from when the were built until 71, the view from our living room window was the dog track, but I went to Wybourn school.
i lived right below you on daker row sandy my dad used to be on the door of the dog track

NEVILLEP
04-01-2009, 06:09
Hi steve1002004 my name is neville palmer i used to live at 106 lordrow my sisters name's are nadine and janet we all went to st john's. I hung around with Dean leslie Paul nelson Mark renshaw David powell Anthony conell Robert mcdonald Nigel derby Anthony bennet who married my ex girlfriend Lisa ashmore Margret gregory Lisa hardcastle Cheryl fieldhouse Paul cunningham Michelle morrison Karen martin Stephanie robinson who lived on lord row Mr stubbs was our football coach and oh yes good old mr martin say no more do these name ring a bell.

NEVILLEP
30-01-2009, 17:52
Hey looking for Dean Leslie, Lost ur e mail and number NEV PALMER

tilla
05-03-2009, 11:30
We lived on the flats til 1978, 82 chancel row,anyone remember the Taylor's?

Digsy
04-09-2010, 00:56
I miss the hyde park flats, two of my favourite past times as a kid were speeding down on my bike/skateboard, started off on top of sky edge, picking up speed whilst checking no cars are coming, across the road, through the lift shaft, down the hill past the park, and then you had to be really good in order to turn that tight corner without slowing down (else doom awaits as you hit the wall and go fly the 20ft vertical drop), down the ramp, past the youth club and then 1/2 way along derwent row without using any peddling through the whole trip.
We used to see if we could ever reach the end of derwent without peddling, never did, so the last stretch would end up turning into an all out peddle race to the lift.

And exploring the ducts.

Them were the days, R.I.P mexican Dez, long gone are the days when we'd here yer gruff voice shouting down "ere you lad, here's £1 get me some bread and take 20p out of it" as we walked below.

paulo n
04-09-2010, 05:40
those outside staircases used to scare me s***less.

bazza63
04-01-2011, 10:49
My Brotherinlaw Opened The SAMUELL PLIMSOLL, Bill And Lilly Hatton, About 1960s It Had An Area Outside For Tables And Chairs, Remember A family Called KELLY Used To Go In,

Plain Talker
04-01-2011, 11:07
those outside staircases used to scare me s***less.

it was the internal staircases on the main block that I hated, there were two of them, one at either end of the shop section. One was above the Crow's Nest, the other above the Hyde-Away.(I remember the numbers on the flats in the stairwell above the Hyde Away were in the "fifties", the ones above the Crows Nest were about 10/14)

They were really spooky when there was a power cut, as there was no proper natural light in those stairs. There was a roof over with a glassed panel, but after donkeys years they were filthy dirty, and obscured.

jane2008
04-01-2011, 22:39
Hi plaintalker, do you know if number 55 would be next to the stairwell on the big block. I'm trying to remember what number my mate, Debbie Carr, lived at?

Cheers

cuttsie
05-01-2011, 07:50
Hi there Hyde Parkies,I worked on Hyde Park [bricklayer] when it was built early 60,s.The forman was called The Milky Bar Kid. The main contractor was PWD,[Sheffieds own works dept.My mate at the time was Cliff Edley who lived on the Manor.Anyone else out there who worked on the flats.Regards Judd

Plain Talker
05-01-2011, 09:37
Hi plaintalker, do you know if number 55 would be next to the stairwell on the big block. I'm trying to remember what number my mate, Debbie Carr, lived at?

Cheers

Yes,it would have been. My mate lived at a number 65, which was bang in the middle of the main bit of the landing after the stairwell, so it would have been very close to the stairwell, as I'm sure the numbers ran 51/52/53, in the stairwell (or very close)

My aunt was about four or five doors from the stairwell, on the other side, and hers was number 44.

(edit to say, I could be out by a couple of numbers either way, but it's very close)

jane2008
05-01-2011, 17:40
Yes,it would have been. My mate lived at a number 65, which was bang in the middle of the main bit of the landing after the stairwell, so it would have been very close to the stairwell, as I'm sure the numbers ran 51/52/53, in the stairwell (or very close)

My aunt was about four or five doors from the stairwell, on the other side, and hers was number 44.

(edit to say, I could be out by a couple of numbers either way, but it's very close)

Thanks for that PT. I lived on there for about 6 years but there's loads of things I don't remember until some one on here mentions them.

omalley4241
05-01-2011, 18:01
I use to live 87 Dacre Row, Great Memories:)

speedypete0
08-01-2011, 16:56
mexican des ? would that be des difratis married to kath who worked at middlewood hospital he drove a white chevy impala
if same guy he was avery good friend of mine [have not lived in sheffield for 25 years] and i am so sorry to hear of his death if it is the same guy

bladegirl34
16-01-2011, 18:24
mexican des ? would that be des difratis married to kath who worked at middlewood hospital he drove a white chevy impala
if same guy he was avery good friend of mine [have not lived in sheffield for 25 years] and i am so sorry to hear of his death if it is the same guy

Hi yes that is des difratis, he was a very good friend of my family to,great bloke and i miss him loads,i always remember him in the bookies, he thought the world of my grandad and dad who lived on high pavement.

Digsy
06-02-2012, 13:29
I lived on Ropery Row from 1980-89, we moved of when they were doing the modernisations and was re-housed in Hillsborough. I had a lot of friends whilst I lived there and lost contact with most of them which was sad, I also went to St Johns School. I remember;

Lee Wisdom
Eve Bernard
Roland&kenneth Brisset
Gaynor&Simone Grant ( who I'm still in contact with)
Matthew&mark Marples
Neil hartley
James Glover
Christopher Dingely

Ahhh, there were loads, they were good times.
Hello!!! to any of you who may be out there:D

Lee is doing ok for himself, works for MAST I think, Eve never answers her facebook.
Kenneth will never change, Roland unfortunately has severe mental problems and does not talk to people.
Gaynor lives in Bath and is now known as Gaynor Simpson, Simone is now Mrs Charlesworth.
Matt and Mark are doing well.
Not seen anything of Neil or James since childhood.
Chris Dingley says Hello back.

I wonder how Michelle Drew is doing.

Lexikia
30-03-2012, 20:26
Yes, remeber this, It was Mark Travis around 10 years old, it was the lift near the Parkway pub, 1972?

jane2008
30-03-2012, 22:32
Yes, remeber this, It was Mark Travis around 10 years old, it was the lift near the Parkway pub, 1972?

What was ?

lucy lisa
30-03-2012, 22:38
i went st johns school when i was there dodsworth died a couple week ago i use to like mr mail

Lexikia
31-03-2012, 05:54
The youngster who died in the lift on Park Hill flats around 1970, cut his head off.