when i switch it on it says it as a wireless conection,does this mean i can network it with my main computer allowing my daughter net access from upstairs..if so how do i do it:help:

If the laptop has wireless networking,AFAIK, you will need a new network card in your other PC so that they can "talk to each other"

Originally posted by G18241
If the laptop has wireless networking,AFAIK, you will need a new network card in your other PC so that they can "talk to each other"

how much are they mate?

Have a look. Try Ebuyer, Dabs, Scan......

i THINK something like this will do

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=10746701965&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=82821

but i would wait for someone to confirm, or find a better product, as i havent done much about wireless networking im afriad, i just got a CAT5E cable between our computers :p lol

Here at 'The Towers' we have everything networked using the cheapest WiFi adaptors I could buy, and it works fine.

I think I paid about GBP 15.00 for each of mine, but they were 'end of line' stock.

I use an old desktop PC upstairs as a router, and that also connects to the Internet via ADSL. If you're running Windows XP on your machines then the built in Connection Sharing wizard should help you on your way once you've got the cards installed.

The WiFi cards come as either PCMICIA cards for laptops, plug in boards for the desktop or USB connected wireless LAN adaptors. I use a mixture of all three types here, though the USB ones seem to be more troublsesome than anything else.

Joe

Originally posted by JoeP
Here at 'The Towers' we have everything networked using the cheapest WiFi adaptors I could buy, and it works fine.

I think I paid about GBP 15.00 for each of mine, but they were 'end of line' stock.

I use an old desktop PC upstairs as a router, and that also connects to the Internet via ADSL. If you're running Windows XP on your machines then the built in Connection Sharing wizard should help you on your way once you've got the cards installed.

The WiFi cards come as either PCMICIA cards for laptops, plug in boards for the desktop or USB connected wireless LAN adaptors. I use a mixture of all three types here, though the USB ones seem to be more troublsesome than anything else.

Joe

right joe i'll get kettle on while you get to work:D

Originally posted by kirky
right joe i'll get kettle on while you get to work:D These - the router to share the connection & the card for the laptop. (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=82066) This goes into the computer(s). (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45622)

Simply, take the cable out of the current modem (the cable that goes from the microfilter/BT box), then place it into the router; follow the instructions, and Bob's your uncle!

:)

When you say that you want to add it to the existing network, then you just need this. (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45024)

:)

could anyone come and sort it out for me? i don't expect it doin for nowt:thumbsup:

come on ya misrable gits someone must have the know how:|

what do you want doing the new network thing put into your PC?

Originally posted by kirky
come on ya misrable gits someone must have the know how:|

Well Kirky,

If it can wait till november the 10th then ill do it for ya. Im in Jersey at the moment but will be in shefffield on the 10th november. But i guess you cant wait till then can you. I could always talk you through it if you want.

Up to you.

Originally posted by G18241
what do you want doing the new network thing put into your PC?
i want the laptop to pick u[p the broadband from my main pc

Originally posted by nickrb
Well Kirky,

If it can wait till november the 10th then ill do it for ya. Im in Jersey at the moment but will be in shefffield on the 10th november. But i guess you cant wait till then can you. I could always talk you through it if you want.

Up to you.

i'm a computer thicko mate:|

Originally posted by kirky
i'm a computer thicko mate:|

So, your main PC is connected to broadband yes?

And you lap top has an internal wireless network card?

Do you have an adsl router? Or a modem?

You best bet, if you want to share the internet connection is to buy a dsl wireless router/4port switch.

That way you can physically plug your computer into the router and and then also see the router (and obviously internet) from your laptop using the wireless router as an access point to the internet..

This is the sort of thing you need. There are a couple on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NETGEAR-DG834G-DSL-Modem-and-Wireless-Network-Router_W0QQitemZ5807907158QQcategoryZ44997QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

well thanks for being a helpful lot:rolleyes: got someone comming to do it tuesday..£50:thumbsup:

Originally posted by kirky
well thanks for being a helpful lot:rolleyes: got someone comming to do it tuesday..£50:thumbsup:

£50!!! I can recommend someone who can do it for half that.

well have have been askin since god were a lad:rolleyes:

Sorry Kirky, only just seen this thread.

Anyway, let me know if you need him. He's only at Frechville and freelances most afternoons (except Wednesday when he works for me!)

Originally posted by alchresearch
Sorry Kirky, only just seen this thread.

Anyway, let me know if you need him. He's only at Frechville and freelances most afternoons (except Wednesday when he works for me!)

if yoyr talkin 25 quid mate i'll av him do the job..so as poss:thumbsup: does the price include any bits i might need?

if all that needs doing is the card putting in the PC kirky, you could very easily do it yourself mate :)

Originally posted by G18241
if all that needs doing is the card putting in the PC kirky, you could very easily do it yourself mate :)

you obviously don't know me very well:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Originally posted by kirky
you obviously don't know me very well:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Grandads shouldn't be messin with computers anyhow :rant:

Originally posted by poppins
Grandads shouldn't be messin with computers anyhow :rant:

:|

its a simple case of taking your case off, slooting the card in, maybe puttin a lead into it, and its done :| very easy :p

right ive inserted the card thing into the back,both the pc and the laptop seem ti be searching for eachother but nowts happening,ive been told i have to create a single ip address for the pc's to communicate together.........:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by kirky
right ive inserted the card thing into the back,both the pc and the laptop seem ti be searching for eachother but nowts happening,ive been told i have to create a single ip address for the pc's to communicate together.........:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

there's a wizard you can access.

Do it from your desktop first, it lives under the network connections icon (right click and select properties) - I think it's something like "Make a New Connection".

Originally posted by kirky
when i switch it on it says it as a wireless conection,does this mean i can network it with my main computer allowing my daughter net access from upstairs..if so how do i do it:help:

i have now had two "experts" visit my house to network the lappy with the main pc,neither of them could do it so the young'n will have to mkle do with dial up connection in her bedroom,can anyone reccomend the best one......she was on AOL before.

One thing that I can't seem to find on here and it's pretty important..

What operating systems are you running on each of your computers?

Also what level of service pack are they patched/upgraded to?

Of course the other important question: are you using broadband, and if so, what sort (ADSL or cable)? and which ISP do you use?


Next up, is there any particular reason you're wanting to connect to the net via the desktop machine or would it make more sense to connect using a router instead?

Speaking from painful experience it's generally easier to install a wireless router to manage a broadband connection as the whole linking of PC's together to share a connection is often fraught with pain, tears and much gnashing of teeth...



Anyways, with THAT information, I suspect it'd be easier to work out what your options are without getting people to come round and find they didn't have all the necessary intel.

Originally posted by kirky
i have now had two "experts" visit my house to network the lappy with the main pc,neither of them could do it so the young'n will have to mkle do with dial up connection in her bedroom,can anyone reccomend the best one......she was on AOL before.

It is not rocket science so they can't be 'experts' and who ever is charging £50 is on to a good thing :D

Dial-Up-Connection and broadband at the same time sound expensive.

If you are willing to spend £50 for someone to set it up for you, you are much better off spending that money on a wireless modem router to make life easier for yourself.

as they didn't do it they didn't charge.also the brought the router with them(or summay anyway) but it still didn't work,both pc's were seeing each other but for some reason they wouldn't share the internet connection

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by kirky
as they didn't do it they didn't charge.also the brought the router with them(or summay anyway) but it still didn't work,both pc's were seeing each other but for some reason they wouldn't share the internet connection

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Kirky, look back one and pop some answers up here...

Might give a few clues on what's going on.

Originally posted by Martin_s
Kirky, look back one and pop some answers up here...

Might give a few clues on what's going on.

eh:confused:

Originally posted by Martin_s
One thing that I can't seem to find on here and it's pretty important..

What operating systems are you running on each of your computers?

Also what level of service pack are they patched/upgraded to?

Of course the other important question: are you using broadband, and if so, what sort (ADSL or cable)? and which ISP do you use?


Next up, is there any particular reason you're wanting to connect to the net via the desktop machine or would it make more sense to connect using a router instead?

Speaking from painful experience it's generally easier to install a wireless router to manage a broadband connection as the whole linking of PC's together to share a connection is often fraught with pain, tears and much gnashing of teeth...



Anyways, with THAT information, I suspect it'd be easier to work out what your options are without getting people to come round and find they didn't have all the necessary intel.

He means this post Kirky :rolleyes:
What network hardware do you already own?

ive a wirless card which as a small areial type thing on the end which,i'm told should pick up the signal from the laptop,but it doesn't,so then he fitted another one which connected them together with a cable but that didn't work either.

Originally posted by kirky
ive a wirless card which as a small areial type thing on the end which,i'm told should pick up the signal from the laptop,but it doesn't,so then he fitted another one which connected them together with a cable but that didn't work either.

Which of those answers relate to these questions? :confused:


One thing that I can't seem to find on here and it's pretty important..

What operating systems are you running on each of your computers?

Also what level of service pack are they patched/upgraded to?

Of course the other important question: are you using broadband, and if so, what sort (ADSL or cable)? and which ISP do you use?

so now we've worked out i'm a computer thicko can someone answer my question i asked earlier.....whats the best dial up company as in cost and service?

Originally posted by kirky
so now we've worked out i'm a computer thicko can someone answer my question i asked earlier.....whats the best dial up company as in cost and service?

If you didn't understand the question, why not ask instead of completely ignoring them and answering your own questions?

Press power on for the computer, sit there and watch it boot up. What do you see on the screen 98/ME/2000/XP there will be some writing an a image which tells you.

Have you got broadband, if so is it cable (i.e do you purchase it with a cable tv package)?

To be honest for the amount it will cost you on dialup you are much better purchasing a router and doing the job properly.

Originally posted by kirky
so now we've worked out i'm a computer thicko can someone answer my question i asked earlier.....whats the best dial up company as in cost and service?
With the greatest of respect Kirky this "I'm a thicko" is just making excuses... If you don't know how to find out the answer then ask and, as I've done below, there's help available to help you get there. If my mum can manage it, you sure as heck can.

Without the answers though it's a bit like asking "how long should I make this string?"


So, to break it down...

What operating system are you using (Windows 98 or ME or 2000 or XP) for each of your computers? (It'll tell you when you boot up)

Have you applied any Windows Updates to your computer?
(Right click on your "My Computer" icon, choose Properties, and read the information provided about your computer and operating system... It usually includes info on the latest service pack (SP) installed.
Do this for both machines)

Are you using broadband or dial up? (I'm guessing dial-up based on your query about dial-up providers)


Right, once you've got all that info THEN we can probably help you with your original query...





As to the best dial up... I personally recommend virgin.net but if you need a lot of support then I'd suggest going to demon.net instead as they have a very good tech support team who are very patient and for which you don't pay through the nose (unlike Virgin.net).

Over to you...

AOL it is then..free help line

Kirky,

You've sat and whinged that nobody has helped you and yet when people like myself have tried to get more information so that they can provide accurate information that will actually solve your problem, you've ignored it completely.

Bottom line: If you can't help yourself don't expect anyone else to.

Originally posted by Martin_s
Kirky,

You've sat and whinged that nobody has helped you and yet when people like myself have tried to get more information so that they can provide accurate information that will actually solve your problem, you've ignored it completely.

Bottom line: If you can't help yourself don't expect anyone else to.

why are you getting mad with yourself.....chill

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

calm down dear dial up will do fine:hihi:

Originally posted by kirky
AOL it is then..free help line

"AOL UK is to start charging customers who call its customer and technical support helplines.

The ISP intends to charge its customers up to 7.5p a minute depending on the time of day.

The new charges come into effect on August 1 and are believed to be the first time AOL UK has made its punters pay for calling its helplines.

Until now the 0800 tech support line has been a selling point for the family-friendly ISP..."

:hihi:

from here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/aol_charges_support/)

Originally posted by steev
"AOL UK is to start charging customers who call its customer and technical support helplines.

The ISP intends to charge its customers up to 7.5p a minute depending on the time of day.

The new charges come into effect on August 1 and are believed to be the first time AOL UK has made its punters pay for calling its helplines.

Until now the 0800 tech support line has been a selling point for the family-friendly ISP..."

:hihi:

from here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/24/aol_charges_support/)

i don't need the help line mate...i'm well clued up;)