The mail newspaper says,that olive oil is better for you than aspirin.Can this be true.Im sure you will be running to the toilet all day depending on how much you take. And if olive oil is better than aspirin, Im sure Popeye will be glad !

I'll saves yer olive :hihi:

Apparently so pattricia, i hadn't heard of this but just did a google and came up with this
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050831/hl_nm/headache_oliveoil_dc
Nature provides as they say.

Have you try cooking with aspirin? Buggers ya pan up big time. :hihi:

Originally posted by the_rudeboy
Have you try cooking with aspirin? Buggers ya pan up big time. :hihi:

11.80 are crap though.....:hihi:



I see what you mean :heyhey: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by spyro2000
I see what you mean :heyhey: :rolleyes:

That was the 0.1.....cheeky git....

Red wine is better for you than both Olive Oil and Aspirin.

However... put the three together and things really start to swing!

I find that a bit hard to swallow.

Aspirin is still being researched as a wonder drug.

Perhaps they should be researching willow bark which is possibly better for you than all the rest. Do a google on "willow bark" for more information, then chuck out your aspirin and stop going ott about olive. Let popeye keep her.

So many handy herbs in your own back garden and you never learn about them. Tis good to be a witch ;)

Dragon

I thought aspirin was made from willow bark

hazel

Aspirin is a derivative of the Willow Bark, so is a plant source.

Digoxin - a powerful heart drug, is also derived from foxgloves.

Nature provides indeed!

Lets not forget opiates - powerful painkillers, from poppies, Lignocaine - local anaesthetic, wine, chocolate, :D etc

:clap:

Aspirin is. However - it does not have the rubbish added to it that is in Aspirin tablets. You cannot OD on willow bark. Well - suppose anything is possible but it would be blooming difficult.

Need to take care not to damage the tree when acquiring. Any willow twigs will do. Scrape off the bark and dry. Cut into small pieces and grind up (those coffee bean grinders work well). You can put the powder in capsules for easy swallowing - though careful if you are a vegetarian.

Sage is a good one, Don_kiddick. Burn some on a gauze and visit the fairies. Salvia Divinorum can be smoked in a pipe or in a cig paper. More mild than Pot, but can have similar effect.

Field poppies are similar to the cultivated ones but lack the addictive qualities apparently.

Nothing illegal here. Move along.

Dragon

I used to use Meadowsweet root for headaches when sitting in the sun fishing all day, it tastes just like germeline which is strange.
It grows in damp places and one of the more easily identifiable plants especialy when it's in flower.

I would guess it depends on your tollerance to prescribed drugs, i rarely use prescribed pain killers, so i'm convinced that's why meadowsweet works for me.

Originally posted by 40summat
I used to use Meadowsweet root for headaches when sitting in the sun fishing all day, it tastes just like germeline which is strange.
It grows in damp places and one of the more easily identifiable plants especialy when it's in flower.

I would guess it depends on your tollerance to prescribed drugs, i rarely use prescribed pain killers, so i'm convinced that's why meadowsweet works for me. Maybe my husband should use Meadowsweet,when hes not won the fishing match !

I'm a bit confused:confused: should i be having a swig of olive oil when i've got a headache? Seems a bit random comapring the two.

olive oil also does'nt burn big holes in your stomach like asprin either :(

As far as I remember - Willow doesn't burn holes in your stomach either.

Could be wrong but I think it is something added to the aspirin that makes it all go pear shaped.

Also - the article says Olive Oil MAY do this and MAY do that. Then again - MAYbe not.

Hmmm! Any chemists out there with the info?

Dragon

I wonder what it is they add to it? dont touch asprin or nsaid painkillers anymore.. one camera down the gullett is enough for me :gag:

Willow has the same use as aspirin but with none of the side effects.

Aye - I am promoting natural remedies like this and then maybe more people will respect the countryside and take an interest in what is available around them rather than just taking it for granted.

Ash bark is a great treatment for head lice, for instance. The list goes on.

Dragon

The most basic of Aspirin tablets will contain only starch, usually Maize Starch to bulk the mixture up and talc to keep the powders free-flowing during the manufacture process.

These are going to do you no harm at all.

The largest cause of damage to stomachs from aspirin was/is from an undissolved, whole tablet sitting against the wall and producing a high concentration of acid at that spot.

Other forms of Aspirin such as soluble, coated etc. will have more additives, but again they are usually fairly innocuous.

Pardon me but I have heard somewhere that talc is pretty damaging - even the kind that does not contain zinc.

Surely someone somewhere knows about Aspirin?

All I know is that according to all the herbal books I have read - Willow does the same job but is none-harmful. Wonder if they got it wrong? Seems unlikely.

Dragon

I've been using aspirin for my arthritis for years and never suffered any of the supposed side effects. I buy the cheapest I can find and always chew them before swallowing with a glass of water.

Until fairly recently it was possible to buy aspirin in tubs of 100. but there was a scare about people overdosing on them, so theoretically the max quantity you can now buy is 32.

Boots charge about 75p for a packet of 32 aspirin, Tesco charge 25p. I recently found them in Wilko at 7p for 16 !!

The first article (http://health.howstuffworks.com/aspirin.htm) that Google brings up should tell you all you want to know :)

Asprin is a synthesised version of willow. i found a couple of articles but there are loads more.
http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,10069,00.html

here is another which (halfway down the piece) it states it is a product of crude oil.
http://www.druidnetwork.org/environment/articles/plasticplanet.html

I'm fairly sure that the talc powders use in pharmaceutics are no problem.
You may be thinking of the problems in mining talc and getting lung cancer. It can also cause problems if injected (crushed tableys extending herion).

You are not wrong at all about willow.

Willow contains salicin which converts to salicylic acid on reaction with stomach acids.
Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid which also converts to salicylic acid on reaction with stomach acids.

It is salicylic acid which is the effective agent in both cases.

Continuous use of salicin has also been shown to cause gastric problems in only a few cases but as you are usually taking it in a liquid form (tea) the localised concentrations of acid are unlikely.

Salicin/willow is regarded as slower acting but lasts for longer.

People with allergic reaction to aspirin will also have a reaction to willow.

Just noticed the part where it says DO NOT take white willow and asprin and similar drugs together as it can increase the causes of stomach bleeding.
I guess the moral here is if anybody is thinking of using anything suggested in the pages of a forum, seek proper advice of a medicinal or herbal professional first.

Give me a Budweiser, anyday.!

I'll second that!
Gives you headaches though :hihi:

Any nsaid (the family of drug that asprin and iboprofen belongs to,) can cause damage to your stomach even if not taken orally, ie rectaly, intra muscally or intra venously.

This because part of the action of nsaids helps regulate the prostroglandin release with helps to regulate the protective lining of the stomach. Eating or drinking a glass of milk can help.

Incedently if you are asthmatic you should try to stay clear of nsaids, as they can trigger an attack.

I am one of the unfortunates who is allergic to them, mind you it took a pretty nast stomach bleed for me to discover this.
Its a bugger really with my back problems I have to take the stronger opiate based painkillers now.