View Full Version : Really bad headaches/migraines-cure?


miaowwoof
26-05-2010, 22:59
I've always had headaches and migraines and been sent to the hospital in the past just to make sure there is nothing seriously wrong.

If I get a really bad migrain attack I take 'imigran' (sumatriptan). However i try not to take them if I can as they are so strong.

For the past 6 days at about 5pm my severe headches have start, and no matter what I take, whether it be ibroprofen or co codamol or a combination of them both they don't touch my headache! All they do is make me sick if I take too many.
I try nt to take too many co codamol as it is because I know they can cause headaches.

When I went to the hospital they said I had clustered tension headaches (which means I will get headache everyday for say a month (a cluster of days)then no headaches for ages.

Well I'm at my witsend, nothings working!!! If you havesuffered anything similar can you suggest anything painkiller wise?

Thanks

Strix
26-05-2010, 23:07
it sounds like they may not be getting to the root of your problem

there's another member on here who was 'diagnosed' with very rare intense migrane, but it was eventually discovered that there was too much pressure in her spinal fluid (if I've remembered that correctly)

The sudden incidence of hot weather (high pressure) gave both me and Mr Strix a headache to start with, so could it be the high pressure that's kicking off your symptoms? Perhaps try keeping a food/drink/weather/migrane diary for a few months?

PS - my migranes are usually visual rather than headache ones, but I suspect stress and dehydration play a large part

miaowwoof
26-05-2010, 23:13
I literally sit and tap or rub the front of my forehead that I get a lump every night, that's how bad it is!! But then after a couple of weeks like this I will go weeks without it. So weird how they start at the same time everyday!

Alien
26-05-2010, 23:13
What age are you? What's your daily routine? Gender?

You may be wise to look at why you're getting them rather than "what can I take"?


I suffered from the age of 11 (genetic it seems) For me it's a dark room and isolation. Dehydration is a particular culprit. For me pills don't work.

miaowwoof
26-05-2010, 23:22
What age are you? What's your daily routine? Gender?

You may be wise to look at why you're getting them rather than "what can I take"?


I suffered from the age of 11 (genetic it seems) For me it's a dark room and isolation. Dehydration is a particular culprit. For me pills don't work.

I've done all the diary stuff and everything when I was under the hospital and there are no triggers. Cluster headaches aren't like migraines or headaches, they are triggered by dehydration, cheese, smells, etc...you can't therefore stop them unless you go down the beta blocker route which they tried with me when I was in my late teens. The only way to look at cluster headaches is to look at cures.

Berkana
26-05-2010, 23:27
How strange, I was going to post something similar today myself! I've had 8 days of migraine mixed with other headaches, and only just starting to feel better this afternoon. I've had them at least once a week (usually more) for about 10 years. Like you, the only thing that works is triptans - normal pain killers do nothing at all. I hate taking them too, they're horrible. I've taken 6 of the bloody things in the last week. It's always a worry as they can cause strokes, which I'm at a higher risk of than normal anyway and my doc isn't especially keen on me taking them.

Anyway, has the doc ever suggested preventitive meds for you? I've tried two kinds so far (beta blockers and pizotifen), neither of which agreed with me (nor did they work! Just made me fat, grumpy and completely exhausted). Going again this week though to see if they'll try anything else.

It might be worth asking your doc about preventitive meds. Also the library usually has books about migraines or general headaches which has lots of advice. I think one over the counter thing you can try is B vitamin supplements (can't remember which B - think it's 6 but will look it up!)

mojoworking
26-05-2010, 23:31
I've always had headaches and migraines and been sent to the hospital in the past just to make sure there is nothing seriously wrong.

If I get a really bad migrain attack I take 'imigran' (sumatriptan). However i try not to take them if I can as they are so strong.

For the past 6 days at about 5pm my severe headches have start, and no matter what I take, whether it be ibroprofen or co codamol or a combination of them both they don't touch my headache! All they do is make me sick if I take too many.
I try nt to take too many co codamol as it is because I know they can cause headaches.

When I went to the hospital they said I had clustered tension headaches (which means I will get headache everyday for say a month (a cluster of days)then no headaches for ages.

Well I'm at my witsend, nothings working!!! If you havesuffered anything similar can you suggest anything painkiller wise?

Thanks

I had exactly that problem for decades and it was constantly (and wrongly) diagnosed and dismissed as a sinus problem.

No headache tablet would touch it. Then after a CT scan revealed the sinuses were fine, my doctor took a chance and prescribed something called Deralin 40.

It's really a medication for high blood pressure. My BP was fine, but one of the useful side effects of Deralin is that a very low dose will reduce the blood flow to the head just enough to cure migraine (or stop it happening in the first place).

I'm not sure of the exact medical terminology, but it has something to do with the blood vessels in the head. When they get too much BP, headaches result.

It's worked miracles for me and I've never had a headache since I started taking it. It could be worth mentioning to your doctor.

Alien
26-05-2010, 23:41
I've done all the diary stuff and everything when I was under the hospital and there are no triggers. Cluster headaches aren't like migraines or headaches, they are triggered by dehydration, cheese, smells, etc...you can't therefore stop them unless you go down the beta blocker route which they tried with me when I was in my late teens. The only way to look at cluster headaches is to look at cures.

Sorry but I read "migraine" in your title and replied as such. You've mention a couple of things that trigger migraine...there are many many more. Cluster headaches happen for a reason or reasons just like any other medical problem. As someone has already implied....get help, even if it means bypassing your doctor.
Out of interest do you smoke? Drink?


I can't see sitting in front of a screen helping you either....switch it off.

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 00:01
No I don't smoke or drink.

I'm going to the doctors first thing in the morning. I can't stand another night of it.

Thank you for your replies

Strix
27-05-2010, 00:39
How strange, I was going to post something similar today myself! I've had 8 days of migraine mixed with other headaches, and only just starting to feel better this afternoon. Now I'm even more convinced it's due to the high pressure weather we've been having!

miawwoof, can you honestly say you've kept a diary of your symptoms vs the weather before?

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 00:42
Now I'm even more convinced it's due to the high pressure weather we've been having!

miawwoof, can you honestly say you've kept a diary of your symptoms vs the weather before?


Yes, when I was under the specialist I had achart. Which included various foods, drinks, the times I ate, drank, whether it was overcast, raining, sunny, a thunderstorm, high polen count, which perfume I had on, whether I was at work, what I was doing in the un up to the headache.

chem1st
27-05-2010, 00:58
Heroin in a low dose. (Essentially co-codamol, but you can get stronger OTC medicines)

Unless you can attribute the cause to something specific like an allergen and get a medicine directed to target it, rather than broad pain relief.

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 01:02
Heroin in a low dose. (Essentially co-codamol, but you can get stronger OTC medicines)

Unless you can attribute the cause to something specific like an allergen and get a medicine directed to target it, rather than broad pain relief.

Wish there was a cause for CH which could be found like there is with migraines etcc :(

chem1st
27-05-2010, 01:05
wish there was a cause for ch which could be found like there is with migraines etcc :(

ch?........................

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 01:07
ch?........................

Cluster Headaches :/

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 01:14
If you want to know more about this type this article is the most accurate I've ever found in explaining how bad they are and what the are like. You don't have to read into the LSD treatment, just the whole article is correct. 'cluster headaches aka alarm clock headache aka suicidal headache' ate both spot on names for this horrible form of headache.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/lsd-cured-my-headache-953406.html

chem1st
27-05-2010, 01:15
Cluster Headaches :/

When do you experience it most often?

Do you monitor what food you eat?

Are they associated with certain types of worry?

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 01:23
When do you experience it most often?

Do you monitor what food you eat?

Are they associated with certain types of worry?

No it's nothing like that. Cluster headaches are a pattern, but with me there is no trigger (most people with ch don't have a triger).
For instance for the last few nights at the same time it starts, and will
do so for probable another week or so. Then will just stop! Then after a feww weeks break it will start again at the same time of day for a few weeks.

There is no trigger, no warning or anyhing. Pain killers don't work. Sumatriptans sometimes blankets the edge off it (sumatriptans balance the chemical in the brain)

it's so hard to describe. This form is totally nothing like migraine or headaches :/

chem1st
27-05-2010, 01:24
If you want to know more about this type this article is the most accurate I've ever found in explaining how bad they are and what the are like. You don't have to read into the LSD treatment, just the whole article is correct. 'cluster headaches aka alarm clock headache aka suicidal headache' ate both spot on names for this horrible form of headache.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/lsd-cured-my-headache-953406.html

Interesting article. I once suffered from constant migraine from maybe 8-14, but never noticed/suffered in my late teens, at a time when I was regularly using MDMA and mushrooms of the Psilocybin variety. At a younger age I was prescribed heroin based medication which did have some effect, but not much. I still use Psiclocybin and MDMA but 'once in a blue moon' so to speak.

It is a shame certain medicines are restricted, especially when they have so much fact based evidence supporting their use. However I struggle to see what can be done, derivatives of natural drugs could be developed, but unless cost effective nobody could care less. :(

miaowwoof
27-05-2010, 14:57
Well back from the docs and shes given me a triptan nasel spray. So I
will be able to see tonight if it works. Hope so :/

twoheartstop
30-05-2010, 13:31
Heroin in a low dose? Lol Chem1st
Diconal used to be given out regularly until the late 90s for migraines (is diconal what you refer to? the famous "pink smarties"- a hardcore pill, beloved of addicts, containing a mix of a synthetic morphine-like drug and Cyclizine for the nausea part.)
I can't believe you actually got Diamorphine, unless you went to Harley St and paid five ton for a session.

Ask your doctor, they almost certainly won't offer you dike because of its previous abuse/addiction notoriety, but you might get Dihydrocodeine as well as the triptans. Triptans are preventive rather than analgesic, they work ina totally different way and some people find they need old fashioned pain killers to treat the migraine as well.

katy1981
30-05-2010, 13:40
i occasionally suffer with migranes and severe headaches they are so bad i have a cold compress and a dark room and peace and quiet and also a bucket as i am often sick with them :gag:

i once had a few days like this and got very very worried so went to hospital and they gave me asprin instead of paracetamol and it worked! although im still not sure why it works better though!

ILSJo
30-05-2010, 16:49
Hi - Has anyone in your family ever had a brain haemorrhage or stroke? Particularly if they were relatively young (ie - under 50)?

From being a teenager I suffered terrible migraines on a regular basis. Doctor dismissed them as insignificant. Then when I was 30 I started getting them more frequently and more severely. One day I went to bed with a migraine and woke up in hospital 3 months later. (I'd suffered a brain haemorrhage). Only the day before the heamorrhage I went to see the optician to see whether my eyes were the problem and only a week before I went to see my GP - He recommended a relaxation tape to listen to!!!

For several weeks before my brain haemorrhage I started suffering the most agonising pain you can imagine for only a few seconds/minutes immediately after having an orgasm. It was so severe it put me off having sex with my boyfriend. I've been told that at the point of orgasm your blood pressure goes through the roof and that the aneurysm in my head was swelling at that moment. I've even been told by a GP that one of his patients actually died from a massive brain heamorrhage whilst having sex!!

If the pain is severe, is in one very specific place inside your head every time (rather than in random areas) and is just as likely to happen in the mornings as at any other time of day - insist on a hospital referral. Especially if you have a family history of strokes. A CT scan will not show up aneurysms - They are usually too small. The only way an aneurysm can be detected is by angiography at the hospital.

Most tension and stress related headaches happen from lunch-time onwards. If you get severe pain in the mornings and it isn't due to caffine, alcohol, being over-tired etc there's a possibility that there's a clinical reason for it.

Berkana
30-05-2010, 23:52
Hi - Has anyone in your family ever had a brain haemorrhage or stroke? Particularly if they were relatively young (ie - under 50)?

From being a teenager I suffered terrible migraines on a regular basis. Doctor dismissed them as insignificant. Then when I was 30 I started getting them more frequently and more severely. One day I went to bed with a migraine and woke up in hospital 3 months later. (I'd suffered a brain haemorrhage). Only the day before the heamorrhage I went to see the optician to see whether my eyes were the problem and only a week before I went to see my GP - He recommended a relaxation tape to listen to!!!

For several weeks before my brain haemorrhage I started suffering the most agonising pain you can imagine for only a few seconds/minutes immediately after having an orgasm. It was so severe it put me off having sex with my boyfriend. I've been told that at the point of orgasm your blood pressure goes through the roof and that the aneurysm in my head was swelling at that moment. I've even been told by a GP that one of his patients actually died from a massive brain heamorrhage whilst having sex!!

If the pain is severe, is in one very specific place inside your head every time (rather than in random areas) and is just as likely to happen in the mornings as at any other time of day - insist on a hospital referral. Especially if you have a family history of strokes. A CT scan will not show up aneurysms - They are usually too small. The only way an aneurysm can be detected is by angiography at the hospital.

Most tension and stress related headaches happen from lunch-time onwards. If you get severe pain in the mornings and it isn't due to caffine, alcohol, being over-tired etc there's a possibility that there's a clinical reason for it.

Oh my God, that's awful. Are you ok now??

It's such a worry, I've had chronic migraine and other headaches for 10 years, and my mum had a series of v bad strokes at 40. And there's hereditary heart disease on my dad's side - not a good combination lol

ILSJo
01-06-2010, 08:55
Do you know whether you mum's strokes at 40 were due to aneurysms? Generally speaking there are 2 types of stroke. One is where a blood vessel becomes blocked which is consistent with high cholesterol and one is where an aneurysm has burst. (An aneurysm is a weakness in a blood vessel and it starts to swell up like a balloon and then bursts due to high blood pressure). If your mum had aneurysms please note they are often hereditary - especially if they occur in younger people. Mention it to your GP if you go to see him about your migraines.

Berkana
01-06-2010, 20:01
I'm not 100% sure but I think it was an aneurysm. My maternal grandmother died of an aneurysm (in her lung) too. I think she was youngish as my mum was only 13 at the time. Depressing reading lol. I'll mention it to my doctor next time I go

Hade Support
03-06-2010, 09:37
I struggled to control my migraines for years but am now on excellent medication (touch the wood table). My doctor prescribed me 'Amytriptaline' which I take 75mg of every day. I also take 'Maxalt Ritrizipan' when I can feel one coming on which usually stops it within about half an hour. The only downside is that it makes you very lethargic and I struggle to stay awake in the evenings when watching TV etc. A lot of people give up on Amytriptaline because they are prescribed small doses like 10mg a day, but I didn't find that they worked until I was taking at least 50mg.