View Full Version : Ray Alan dies age 79 (Lord Charles ventriloquist)


Plain Talker
24-05-2010, 21:44
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1280900/Ventriloquist-Ray-Alan-dies-suddenly-aged-79.html

I'm saddened to hear this, he was another big part of my childhood, him and his creation, "Silly Ass" Lord Charles. even though he reached a reasonably decent age, it's still sad to hear aboutof parts of your childhood memories going... :(

mojoworking
24-05-2010, 23:05
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1280900/Ventriloquist-Ray-Alan-dies-suddenly-aged-79.html

I'm saddened to hear this, he was another big part of my childhood, him and his creation, "Silly Ass" Lord Charles. even though he reached a reasonably decent age, it's still sad to hear aboutof parts of your childhood memories going... :(

You silly arse!

That was his catch phrase (not "Silly Ass")

Sad news though. He was part of a more innocent age of entertainment when we would sit and watch a man talking to himself while manipulating a wooden doll. :hihi:

ukdobby
25-05-2010, 07:40
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1280900/Ventriloquist-Ray-Alan-dies-suddenly-aged-79.html

I'm saddened to hear this, he was another big part of my childhood, him and his creation, "Silly Ass" Lord Charles. even though he reached a reasonably decent age, it's still sad to hear aboutof parts of your childhood memories going... :(

You said that without moving your lips:hihi:

mojoworking
25-05-2010, 07:47
You said that without moving your lips:hihi:

Gottle o' geer, anyone? :hihi:

Tony
25-05-2010, 08:05
A lovely act and fond memories.

Don't try this at home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Zn3M-WMzM)

Jabberwocky
25-05-2010, 08:08
Yeah brings back a few memories for me too and I`m slightly saddened at times like this because these entertainers who gave us such fun when we were kids are so easily forgotten until we hear of their death years down the line.

Plain Talker
25-05-2010, 08:36
You silly arse!

That was his catch phrase (not "Silly Ass")

Sad news though. He was part of a more innocent age of entertainment when we would sit and watch a man talking to himself while manipulating a wooden doll. :hihi:

I wasn't sure if the full spelling was allowed on a family-friendly forum, mojoworking, also I wasn't totally sure whether "Lord Charles's" comment sounded like "arrrrsss" because of the upper class accent. (like Glass glaaaarsssss, bath/ Baaaaarrth, etc)

as Jabbers said, these were big chunks of our childhood, that are disappearing, and it's sad.

Ray Alan was one of the most talented ventriloquists going; with many others, you always saw their mouths moving, a lot, and many were really poor at their so-called "Art"... RA wasn't - he was a class apart.. He actually made Lord Charles' character believable. The Upper-class accent was wonderfully done.

Dot
25-05-2010, 12:59
I've heard that Lord Charles is having a minute's silence in his memory.

daftlad
25-05-2010, 13:09
Lord Charles was asked about the death and he said "i am absolutely speechless"

foxydebs
25-05-2010, 19:03
damn daft lad you bet me to that one.

LibertyBell
25-05-2010, 19:14
What a strange act he had. He must have been a very private person - his wikipedia entry is very thin on detail.

Time takes another piece of our childhoods. (for us middle aged folk).

RIP

rubydazzler
25-05-2010, 19:25
It was 'silly ass', PT, you were right. Pronounced with the long 'a'. We used to have to say 'silly donkey', we weren't allowed to say 'ass' ;)

Another part of our childhood and youth has passed away. How sad, it was such an innocent age, looking back. Entertainers managed to get laughs without resorting to foul language every other word. :)

mojoworking
25-05-2010, 22:43
It was 'silly ass', PT, you were right. Pronounced with the long 'a'. We used to have to say 'silly donkey', we weren't allowed to say 'ass' ;)

Another part of our childhood and youth has passed away. How sad, it was such an innocent age, looking back. Entertainers managed to get laughs without resorting to foul language every other word. :)

Not according to the Guardian:

The snobbish, monocled and apparently perma-sloshed Lord Charles has uttered his final cry of "You silly arse!".

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015943/news#ni2569784

In any case "ass" pronounced with a long "a" is indistinguishable from "arse" :wink:

rubydazzler
25-05-2010, 22:59
The Guardian! Those plebs, what do they know about correct pronunciation. *shrug* I think people today actually do think it IS arse.

One of my old London bosses in the 70s used to say it a lot ... I once transcribed it as 'arse' and he was mortified that anyone thought he was actually saying 'arse' :D Luckily we picked it up at the proof reading stage.

mojoworking
25-05-2010, 23:15
The Guardian! Those plebs, what do they know about correct pronunciation. *shrug* I think people today actually do think it IS arse.

One of my old London bosses in the 70s used to say it a lot ... I once transcribed it as 'arse' and he was mortified that anyone thought he was actually saying 'arse' :D Luckily we picked it up at the proof reading stage.

The implication and execution was always "arse" even if it may have been repeated as "ass" in polite society.

Perhaps you're still dazed and confused after seeing Keef in all his 70s elegantly wasted glory on TV the other night? :hihi:

rubydazzler
25-05-2010, 23:16
The implication and execution was always "arse" even if it may have been repeated as "ass" in polite society.

Perhaps you're still dazed and confused after seeing Keef in all his 70s elegantly wasted glory on TV the other night? :hihi:No, obviously I'm right!

The word for a donkey - ass - was pronounced as 'arse' in polite society until around the time of the yuppies and then the whole world went to hell in a handcart and the power of speech was totally corrupted! :D The concept of 'riding an ass' was entirely different in those days. ;)

mojoworking
25-05-2010, 23:25
No, obviously I'm right!

The word for a donkey - ass - was pronounced as 'arse' in polite society until around the time of the yuppies and then the whole world went to hell in a handcart and the power of speech was totally corrupted! :D The concept of 'riding an ass' was entirely different in those days. ;)

I'll bow to your superior knowledge on the last point :hihi:

rubydazzler
25-05-2010, 23:27
I'll bow to your superior knowledge on the last point :hihi:I thought it was you that bought the bumper sticker? :P

mojoworking
25-05-2010, 23:51
I thought it was you that bought the bumper sticker? :P

Only on birthdays and anniversaries :hihi: