we have a black bin a green bin a blue bag blue box they have now changed it to black bin evrey other week to encourage us all to recycle but if your waste bin is full they wont take access rubish if your bin lid is not closed the remainding rubbish will be put back in your bin and not collected then for a further miss one week and then collected on the 2nd week now it takes 11 days befor a maggott turns in to a fly ,have spoken to streetpride and asked for another bin they will not give you another bin unless you have six people in your house so unless you reproduce another baby, you are not entitled they will not let you buy another bin as they no longer sell them so the excess rubbish you have you have to dispose of your self eg local tip bearing the mind the stench of the rotton food what happens if it spills in your car or you catch an infection or if you dont drive youll have to put up with it on your drive as they wont take it now its not down to rycycleing because you will always have rubbish its down to the fact that they are cost cutting to reach there targets so that they dont get fined from the goverment and this will then increase the 1000 and whatever pounds you pay a year for your council tax bill as have been told by streetpride

where is this happening?

dave

Originally posted by brad
we have a black bin a green bin a blue bag blue box they have now changed it to black bin evrey other week to encourage us all to recycle but if your waste bin is full they wont take access rubish if your bin lid is not closed the remainding rubbish will be put back in your bin and not collected then for a further miss one week and then collected on the 2nd week now it takes 11 days befor a maggott turns in to a fly ,have spoken to streetpride and asked for another bin they will not give you another bin unless you have six people in your house so unless you reproduce another baby, you are not entitled they will not let you buy another bin as they no longer sell them so the excess rubbish you have you have to dispose of your self eg local tip bearing the mind the stench of the rotton food what happens if it spills in your car or you catch an infection or if you dont drive youll have to put up with it on your drive as they wont take it now its not down to rycycleing because you will always have rubbish its down to the fact that they are cost cutting to reach there targets so that they dont get fined from the goverment and this will then increase the 1000 and whatever pounds you pay a year for your council tax bill as have been told by streetpride

Woah woah woah, pause for breath! I heard this was happening at my second home :D in york, but I haven't as yet heard about it in Sheffield. We don't actually have a green bin yet but a few months ago I was told we should be getting one in sept. We have 6 people in our house but I'm attempting to not get a larger bin so that my housemates will actually recycle and crush their rubbish

they are piloting it in certain areas i live in aston sheffield but come under rotherham bourough council

I think this was the intention of the original poster...

We have a black bin, a green bin, a blue bag and blue box. They have now changed it to a black bin every other week to encourage us all to recycle. But if your waste bin is full, they wont take excess rubbish. If your bin lid is not closed, the remainding rubbish will be put back in your bin and not collected. Then they miss one week and then collected on the 2nd week.

Now, it takes 11 days before a maggot turns in to a fly. I have spoken to Streetpride and asked for another bin. They will not give you another bin unless you have six people in your house, so unless you reproduce another baby, you are not entitled. They will not let you buy another bin as they no longer sell them, so the excess rubbish you have, you have to dispose of yourself. eg local tip.

Bearing in mind the stench of the rotten food, what happens if it spills in your car or you catch an infection? Or if you don't drive you'll have to put up with it on your drive, as they wont take it now. It's not down to recycling because you will always have rubbish. It's down to the fact that they are cost cutting to reach their targets so that they don't get fined from the goverment. This will then increase the 1000 and whatever pounds you pay a year for your council tax bill, as I have been told by Streetpride.

I wouldn't normally correct anyone on here, but recycling actually interests me so I thought I'd do everyone else a favour :)

This is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. Our bins always full by monday and they get taken on fridays. I reckon our gardens gonna be rat and maggot infested if this takes off. woo hoo:loopy:

I actually only ever half-fill one of the small wheelie bins. Everything else is recycled. There's 2 of us in the house and I believe we generate an average amount of waste. So this would work for me.

I go away on Sunday so by the time I get back it will be well over a month since my last collection. In my black bin there is all the dinner leftovers and all the trimmings off the meat I have cooked. OK its bagged up but it still stinks vile. Surely this must contravene EU health & safety regs? (I'm in Rotherham).
And get this - this morning was the Green bin day. The binmen go through each bin and they take out what they don't want and dump it on the pavement. My neighbour was left with a pile of potato peelings and carrot bits dumped on the pavement in his driveway! And they say New Orleans is polluted ......

have spoke to the enviormental health about my concerns to get no further than to recycle and you should produce less waste but please tell me how to recycle nappies other than wash them myself as if i havent enough to do already we have a building site at the bottom of the road which use to be a field and when weather bad the rats come on to streets and there telling us that this is ok i strongly disagree and think its extreamly un hygenic they have emptied all the bins today and put rubbish back in to the bins i spoke to enviromental health yest and they said as long as your bins were not overflowing then they should take the rubbish mine was raised by a mere 2 inch and so was 30 more bins on my road but they still put the rubbish back and made the comment that our bins would be full before threy came again as if they thought wAS FUNNY well a couple of rats have been seen but doesnt make a diffrence as long as they meet their targets so now lifes all about targets not your health

Originally posted by brad
we have a black bin a green bin a blue bag blue box they have now changed it to black bin evrey other week to encourage us all to recycle but if your waste bin is full they wont take access rubish if your bin lid is not closed the remainding rubbish will be put back in your bin and not collected then for a further miss one week and then collected on the 2nd week now it takes 11 days befor a maggott turns in to a fly ,have spoken to streetpride and asked for another bin they will not give you another bin unless you have six people in your house so unless you reproduce another baby, you are not entitled they will not let you buy another bin as they no longer sell them so the excess rubbish you have you have to dispose of your self eg local tip bearing the mind the stench of the rotton food what happens if it spills in your car or you catch an infection or if you dont drive youll have to put up with it on your drive as they wont take it now its not down to rycycleing because you will always have rubbish its down to the fact that they are cost cutting to reach there targets so that they dont get fined from the goverment and this will then increase the 1000 and whatever pounds you pay a year for your council tax bill as have been told by streetpride

Do your shift, return and full stop keys not work????

I'm afraid I am unable to read this otherwise!

have spoke to the enviormental health about my concerns to get no further than to recycle and you should produce less waste but please tell me how to recycle nappies other than wash them myself as if i havent enough to do already we have a building site at the bottom of the road which use to be a field.... yada yada yada

Lordy Brad. PLEASE take some care. At least use full stops occasionally!

Originally posted by brad
we have a black bin a green bin a blue bag blue box they have now changed it to black bin evrey other week to encourage us all to recycle but if your waste bin is full they wont take access rubish if your bin lid is not closed the remainding rubbish will be put back in your bin and not collected then for a further miss one week and then collected on the 2nd week now it takes 11 days befor a maggott turns in to a fly ,have spoken to streetpride and asked for another bin they will not give you another bin unless you have six people in your house so unless you reproduce another baby, you are not entitled they will not let you buy another bin as they no longer sell them so the excess rubbish you have you have to dispose of your self eg local tip bearing the mind the stench of the rotton food what happens if it spills in your car or you catch an infection or if you dont drive youll have to put up with it on your drive as they wont take it now its not down to rycycleing because you will always have rubbish its down to the fact that they are cost cutting to reach there targets so that they dont get fined from the goverment and this will then increase the 1000 and whatever pounds you pay a year for your council tax bill as have been told by streetpride

I think I get the general gist of this now.

The answer to your problems is to produce less waste. I live in a house with 4 adults - we fill the bin every three weeks. I know this because we often forget to put it out. We recycle a lot of our waste and produce less of it in the first place. If you try this you won't have the full bin problem.

Nappies - surely you can use non-disposable ones. I cannot judge on this as I have never experienced a nappy.

The aims of this is to meet targets, yes. Those targets are good targets and they should be exceeded on the recycling front. The council does need to provide better facilities and collection for recycling - this is improving though.

just because i dont use them keys doesnt mean i carnt express
or discuss what i think if you dont agree dont read simple as

Originally posted by brad
just because i dont use them keys doesnt mean i carnt express
or discuss what i think if you dont agree dont read simple as

Don't take offense. Im not saying you can't post if you don't do it but it would make reading your posts a lot easier if you did. :)

Originally posted by brad
just because i dont use them keys doesnt mean i carnt express
or discuss what i think if you dont agree dont read simple as

"i carnt"????

It takes me over a month to fill my black bin so this would be ok for me, but then again live by myself and do not produce a lot of rubbish (not inluding my posts :suspect: )

im sorry i dont mean to be rude i just forget to do thease things its im just that im that annoyed and i do recycle, but the health issues are my most worry i have two children under the age of five one has bad health problems and she wouldnt think twice to jumping on the excess rubbish i have asked to buy another bin to know avail i mean what do you do pinch one me personally im not that sort of person

It'd be workable if they introduced a container (it doesn't need to be yet another plastic bin) for plastic cartons & tins too. My home town in Essex has had this scheme up & running for a few years now but I'd say it's much easier to recycle there than it is here. Mind you it's the only way I'd compare Sheffield unfavourably with where I used to live so I don't think Sheffield's doing too badly on the whole :)

Originally posted by TimmyR
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Nappies - surely you can use non-disposable ones. I cannot judge on this as I have never experienced a nappy.
. [/B]

you ever tried washing a nappy and then filling a washing line with them to dry out??

Its happening where i live (Brinsworth) and i can see a lot of people dumping rubbish in other peoples bins in the areas where the trial isnt taking places.

Its like the great idea of giving us a blue "box" bin to put our cans and glass in. Great idea IF it had a lid, as a result of it not 3 cars on our street (i live on a main road) have had their cars scratched by scrotes taking the cans and walking down side of cars.

One good thing is the boxes fit albums perfectly and mine now adorns my loft with a few of my LP's in it

where are the recycling places in Rotherham anyway?

Whats wrong with taking your recycling to the supermarket? I know not everyone drives to the supermarket, but I bet the majority do... and practically every supermarket has recycling facilities.

Little effort in, lots of benefits out.

Originally posted by sheffbag
you ever tried washing a nappy and then filling a washing line with them to dry out??


As I say I have never experienced a nappy, but I am pretty sure my parents used reusable cloth nappies and that if I ever do spawn, then I will do the same.

Brad,

If you want to get ideas over it does help to use Shift keys and punctuation....

However, I see your concerns.

With just two humans and two cats we fill the black bin most weeks and the paper bin every month. So at the moment the collection is just right.

Reducing the collection wouldn't be a good move for us - apart from the odd rat (as exemplified by the hunting prowess of the cats at The Towers) we also get the odd urban fox.

Joe

Originally posted by sheffbag
Its like the great idea of giving us a blue "box" bin to put our cans and glass in.

So there's nothing to recycle plastic in & you're limited in how much glass & cans you can fit in the box? Sheffield definitely gets the thin end of the wedge on these scores. It'd make far more sense if plastic bags (as far as I know these get recycled too) were used for these collections & people were able to put out as much recyclable stuff as they have.

The bins could be kept for rubbish & garden waste & could still be limited.

Originally posted by TimmyR
As I say I have never experienced a nappy, but I am pretty sure my parents used reusable cloth nappies and that if I ever do spawn, then I will do the same.

If you say so........... grabbing a 5hit filled nappy and then having to scoop all the crap out before washing it (if hand washing getting your hands in it all, if automatic then making sure its all out before putting next load in before any lumps left mark the next washing. and that can be anything up to 7 nappies a day on a newborn.......

Originally posted by LL200
Whats wrong with taking your recycling to the supermarket? I know not everyone drives to the supermarket, but I bet the majority do... and practically every supermarket has recycling facilities.

Little effort in, lots of benefits out.

This is true and a lot do this but not all have cars and would benefit greatly from a collection service. Thing is I could envisage us ending up with 4 bins. One for plastic and metal, one for glass, one for garden and food waste and one for everything else. We also shouldn't throw batteries/electrical goods/oil etc into general waste.
Maybe more frequent collection points would be better?

Originally posted by Siân
So there's nothing to recycle plastic in & you're limited in how much glass & cans you can fit in the box? Sheffield definitely gets the thin end of the wedge on these scores. It'd make far more sense if plastic bags (as far as I know these get recycled too) were used for these collections & people were able to put out as much recyclable stuff as they have.

The bins could be kept for rubbish & garden waste & could still be limited.

oh yes and the not giving a lid really helps, like i said i dont use mine good windy night and they are all over the place, still that RMBC for you

My sister uses disposable nappies & they only have a rubbish collection once a fortnight in her area. She doesn't experience any problems but that's because she's able to recycle everything that is recyclable without being restricted.

Originally posted by sheffbag
If you say so........... grabbing a 5hit filled nappy and then having to scoop all the crap out before washing it (if hand washing getting your hands in it all, if automatic then making sure its all out before putting next load in before any lumps left mark the next washing. and that can be anything up to 7 nappies a day on a newborn.......

Im sure scooping wouldn't be necessary...maybe just scraping into the toilet. Its just a bit of s**t afterall. And it was only 50 years ago or so when disposable nappies didn't exist. What did people do then? They probably didn't have automatic washing machines either!

Disposable nappies are incredibly expensive apart from anything else. (And very well marketed)

down here in amber valley, we have been on the fortnightly rubbish collection since june, and its a right mare. Our normal wheelie bin is emptied every other week, and we have a yellow box for glass, an orange box for cans and cardboard, and a blue bag for paper, which are emptied on the alternative week. It has been 8 days since our wheelie bin has been emptied, and the stench is unbearable even though our wheelie bin is cleaned after it is emptied, but according to the Amber Valley borough council, we should not be having this problem.

Originally posted by TimmyR
...garden and food waste ...

Am i right in thinking that the green bin at the moment is supposed to be used for garden waste only?

If i actually had a garden, i think i'd probably put most of that on a compost heap anyway.

b

When I lived in Worksop we had a blue bin and a black bin which were emptied on alternative weeks. We never had any problems with rats or whatever and the black bin would only just be starting to get fill by the time it was going to be emptied. The blue bin in Worksop was for card, paper and plastic - which makes far more sense to me than having the one bin for paper only in Sheffield.

I miss the system in Worksop as I did actually recycle far more than I do here.

I've just come back from France and they recycle as the norm and have bins in the centre of towns etc. You have to take your normal waste to a set of bins in one area and then your recyclables to another set of bins where you seperate them. We are quite lucky here to have the waste collected from our homes.

Originally posted by TimmyR
The aims of this is to meet targets, yes. Those targets are good targets and they should be exceeded on the recycling front. The council does need to provide better facilities and collection for recycling - this is improving though.

Giving that our glorious city council approved the building of the new 'improved' Bernard Road incinerator (run by Onyx), is unable and / or unwilling to close the Parkwood landfill site, and is happy to allow Onyx to decide what items should be recycled, I get the distinct impression that the environment isn't really that much of a priority to them :|

The blue boxes for tins ,plastic ect you can buy a lid for a pound.

the green bins you can put thin cardboard in as well i have a lt of medication for my daughter eg bandages ,creams ,ect thro no fault of my own so i do have alot more waste and i do quote i recycle

Originally posted by sheffbag
If you say so........... grabbing a 5hit filled nappy and then having to scoop all the crap out before washing it (if hand washing getting your hands in it all, if automatic then making sure its all out before putting next load in before any lumps left mark the next washing. and that can be anything up to 7 nappies a day on a newborn.......

we did it, nappies & nappy liners. the liner comes away into the bin. you can then stick the nappy in the machine or soak 2 or 3 together b4 giving them a quick wash.
better for the environment.
picking it outs no worse than wiping their ass for them.

we have the stupid blue bin for bottles & cans - which u have to wash out first.
a thick blue bag for newspapers - no catologues.tehy are collected fortnightly.
we dont have papers 'cos the dogs use them to crap on & i refuse to wash tins out before keeping them round the house for 2 weeks.

Wormeries are good for getting rid of food waste. They eat it and provide you with compost at the end of it. No smell, and less waste in the bin.

Originally posted by willman
i refuse to wash tins out before keeping them round the house for 2 weeks.

Hurray! I feel the same. I don't have a blue bin but a little blue crate minus a lid and I don't want them in the house either nor do I fancy leaving it outside for all sorts of creatures to forage around in it a) encouraging rats and b) endangering other animals. Cat's getting their heads stuck in a cat food tin doesn't appeal to me - ok I can wash it out but I'd probably have to scrub it to get rid of any lingering odour. (Would I use more washing up liquid getting that right and end up flushing more chemicals into our already polluted waters?)

I'm not that keen on dragging it up the drive when it's full of rain water if I leave it outside. If I had a blue bin, I might think differently though.

I try to recycle as much as I can. I happily store newspapers indoors and take them to the recycling bins at the supermarket. I even save them at work and drag them home but I won't use the blue box for depositing food cans.

The new regime doesn't appear to have reached me yet but I guess I would visit the tip if things got so bad. Then I'd probably be wondering about the knock on effects of that trip ... use of, not cost, of fuel, pollution of the environment etc.

PS I do think Brad has received some very rude comments about punctuation and spelling. Does it really matter when discussing such a big issue as recycling and attempting to help the environment?

Originally posted by Trishtee
I go away on Sunday so by the time I get back it will be well over a month since my last collection. In my black bin there is all the dinner leftovers and all the trimmings off the meat I have cooked. OK its bagged up but it still stinks vile

You could always do what my parents do, and ask a neighbour to put your bin out while you're away. Make sure you return the favour though.

Those people moaning about blue boxes: You can get lids for them, from Rotherham Town Hall. They are £1 each and I believe the money is donated to charity.

Rite, we live in an area where the fornightly collection is being "trialled". We tried our best recycling everything that we could in our rubbish and still our bin was full, that was without us having all our kids at home.

What doesnt help is that i'd say most of our rubbish cannot be recycled as it tends to be plastic and they wont recycle that as there is no money in it. So therefore if my bin now gets to near overflowing i have to take my rubbish to the tip.

mmmmmmmm problem there is that our car will not fit under the barriers at our local tip, its a pretty tall MPV and we have a roof rack on it, so how the heck am i supposed to do this?????

All in all, im in favour of recycling, just not on the council cutting back on the collection service that i pay my council tax for just because they want to save even more money to squander.

Rant over

Thanks
x x x x

We used to visit our local recycling site (Somerfield supermarket on Ecclelsall Road) every week to get rid of our excess recylables but they removed all the recyling bins/ glass banks etc and there is no alternative.

So now we have to drive further (ie use up more petrol) to recycle stuff - it doesn't seem to make any sense at all to use more precious petrol up to recyle plastic bottles

Originally posted by Fishpole
Hurray! I feel the same. I don't have a blue bin but a little blue crate minus a lid and I don't want them in the house either nor do I fancy leaving it outside for all sorts of creatures to forage around in it a) encouraging rats and b) endangering other animals. Cat's getting their heads stuck in a cat food tin doesn't appeal to me - ok I can wash it out but I'd probably have to scrub it to get rid of any lingering odour. (Would I use more washing up liquid getting that right and end up flushing more chemicals into our already polluted waters?)

I'm not that keen on dragging it up the drive when it's full of rain water if I leave it outside. If I had a blue bin, I might think differently though.

I try to recycle as much as I can. I happily store newspapers indoors and take them to the recycling bins at the supermarket. I even save them at work and drag them home but I won't use the blue box for depositing food cans.

The new regime doesn't appear to have reached me yet but I guess I would visit the tip if things got so bad. Then I'd probably be wondering about the knock on effects of that trip ... use of, not cost, of fuel, pollution of the environment etc.

PS I do think Brad has received some very rude comments about punctuation and spelling. Does it really matter when discussing such a big issue as recycling and attempting to help the environment?

Yes it does. Its very hard to read.

I DONT THINK PUNCTUATION IS THE ISSUE AT THE TIME I WROTE THIS POST,I FOR ONE WAS ANGRY . WHEN WRITING IT I DIDNT CARE ABOUT PUNCTUATING I JUST WROTE WHAT I FELT . THANKYOU ABOUT SAYING HOW RUDE PEOPLE ARE AND YES IT DOES MATTER ITS NOT THE GRAMMER THAT IS THE ISSUE OR THE WAY PEOPLE WRITE .

Originally posted by brad
I DONT THINK PUNCTUATION IS THE ISSUE AT THE TIME I WROTE THIS POST,I FOR ONE WAS ANGRY . WHEN WRITING IT I DIDNT CARE ABOUT PUNCTUATING I JUST WROTE WHAT I FELT . THANKYOU ABOUT SAYING HOW RUDE PEOPLE ARE AND YES IT DOES MATTER ITS NOT THE GRAMMER THAT IS THE ISSUE OR THE WAY PEOPLE WRITE .

I didnt say it is the issue. But the issue is hard to discuss if people have difficulty reading what you wrote.

Its ok saying that you should recycle waste Im all for that .But your rubbish bin should be still emptied once a week regardless whether it is full or not .otherwise it becomes a health hazard.I wonder what would happen if everyone asked for a reduction in their council tax as we would be getting a reduction in our services.:rant:

Brad, Good topic,You got your point over thats what counts.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Andy
Those people moaning about blue boxes: You can get lids for them, from Rotherham Town Hall. They are £1 each and I believe the money is donated to charity.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't even aware of the latest scheme so you can see how informed the council keep this area in touch! I'm more than happy to pay a "quid for a lid" if it helps to save the environment. Do you know if they'd deliver on their rounds or do we have to drive over and get one? Sorry, I'm really not trying to be sh*tty about the overuse of cars :-D

Originally posted by nightrider
I didnt say it is the issue. But the issue is hard to discuss if people have difficulty reading what you wrote.

It only takes a little more patience and understanding on your part though.

Brad DON'T SHOUT! ;)

im not shouting just trying to point out whats happening,never intended to be pulled downon my grammer,or to argue its the street pride thats p.....me off and how sad it is,do you know they reckoned they sent a letter out about this before it happened not one person on the estate has had one. I wouldnt of minded so much if they had told us orprepared us they just dropped the bin of telling you what to do and thats all . THE RUBBISH SMELLS DISCUSTING

PS I do think Brad has received some very rude comments about punctuation and spelling. Does it really matter when discussing such a big issue as recycling and attempting to help the environment?

nightrider i was thanking you for putting that in about my post .
TTHANKYOU

Originally posted by brad
just because i dont use them keys doesnt mean i carnt express
or discuss what i think if you dont agree dont read simple as

It's not a matter of disagreeing with you, it's simply that your posts are unreadable due to the lack of punctuation. Typing in capital letters is known as SHOUTING by the way - and also doesn't help anyone to read your posts.

Given that your bin problem is happening in Rotherham, and this is the Sheffield Forum - I'm both demused and confused! :huh:

Originally posted by Trishtee

And get this - this morning was the Green bin day. The binmen go through each bin and they take out what they don't want and dump it on the pavement. My neighbour was left with a pile of potato peelings and carrot bits dumped on the pavement in his driveway! And they say New Orleans is polluted ......

Is that right? If that happened to me there'd be an instance of 'Bin Rage'. :o

Strikes me from some of the comments on here that some councils are being less than level-headed about this. First of all, I can see what they are trying to do with reducing bin collections to fortnightly, i.e. force people into recycling (or, cynically, maybe it also cuts costs?). But that doesn't get over the fact that having dirty dustbins lingering around for longer means a risk to public health. In the summer my bin stinks to high hell bacause it's got cat crap and fish skin and stuff in it. And you get worse stuff in bins, like used johnnies and sanitary towels and tampons. :gag: It's not right to leave bins longer than one week!

The other thing is that leaving rubbish dumped at the side of the road uncollected is just being Jobsworth-y. Some people will just leave it there and not bother putting it in the bin, or they will fill up their neighbours' bins. Or worse, take it out to the countryside and dump it! :mad:

I wouldn't tolerate the bins not being emptied, you'd find me taking my bags of cat crap to work and dumping them there instead, or maybe in the litter bins in town.

The other thing is whether councils actually take into account whether people even have the room for extra bins.

The solution I take is to just not have too much rubbish - I use carrier bags as rubbish bags, don't take papers and don't buy stuff with extraneous packaging (why do they package veg in all that plastic? I leave that on the shelf if I can), and I reuse a lot of stuff in the garden.

Originally posted by Trishtee
And get this - this morning was the Green bin day. The binmen go through each bin and they take out what they don't want and dump it on the pavement. My neighbour was left with a pile of potato peelings and carrot bits dumped on the pavement in his driveway! And they say New Orleans is polluted ......

Did your neighbour not read the leaflet that states quite clearly that the green bins aren't for vegetable peelings & the like (you need a composter for that stuff) just for garden waste? I'd blame your neighbour for the mess - not the bin men.

Originally posted by Siân
Did your neighbour not read the leaflet that states quite clearly that the green bins aren't for vegetable peelings & the like (you need a composter for that stuff) just for garden waste? I'd blame your neighbour for the mess - not the bin men.

why exactly do they need to throw it on the pavement? surely they can put it in the correct bin or at least throw it in the garden instead of making a mess on public property!

Originally posted by nightrider
why exactly do they need to throw it on the pavement? surely they can put it in the correct bin or at least throw it in the garden instead of making a mess on public property!

You could just as easily ask why someone felt the need to put it in there in the first place.

I'd guess to make a point & embarrass the person/people responsible into making sure they put the correct stuff in next time. Why stop at peelings? Why not throw any old thing that takes your fancy?

Originally posted by Siân
You could just as easily ask why someone felt the need to put it in there in the first place.

I'd guess to make a point & embarrass the person/people responsible into making sure they put the correct stuff in next time. Why stop at peelings? Why not throw any old thing that takes your fancy?

so it would be better to fine people 5 or 10 pounds and put it in the right bin. That way they have an incentive not to do it wrong again and we dont end up with rubbish strewn across sheffields pavements.

Originally posted by Fishpole
Thanks for the info. I wasn't even aware of the latest scheme so you can see how informed the council keep this area in touch! I'm more than happy to pay a "quid for a lid" if it helps to save the environment.

i'll back that up, RMBC havent even informed us of this but then again thats RMBC for you.

why didnt they supply them with lids in the first place, the pound you pay for the lids more than covers the cost of box and the lid so if everyone does it then nice bit of profit for them

This is from the Rotherham Council website (http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/graphics/Environment/Waste+Management+and+Recycling/_FAQs.htm#Q17) (quite well hidden away though!):

17. Why did I not get a lid with my box?

Our research into similar schemes across the country shows that the majority does not use lids as they:

· Frequently get lost or blown away
· Encourage residents to use the boxes for purposes other than recycling (e.g. toy boxes)
· Significantly increase time spent collecting the boxes.
· Significantly increase the total cost of the scheme.

However, residents may contact us and purchase a lid for £1 from which a donation will be made to a Mayor’s charity. If you do have a lid it is your property and it is advisable not to put it out on your collection day in case it is lost. The Council will not replace any lids free of charge, it is your property.

Originally posted by Siân
Did your neighbour not read the leaflet that states quite clearly that the green bins aren't for vegetable peelings & the like (you need a composter for that stuff) just for garden waste? I'd blame your neighbour for the mess - not the bin men.

Why is unprocessed fruit or vegetable waste from the kitchen not exactly the same as garden waste?

What's the difference 'tween carrot peelings from the kitchen and a rejected carrot from your vegetable patch in the corner of the garden?


Genuinely curious, Siân!

PS the composter smells, too. We started one this year, and there was a horrid whiff of decomposing whenever we tried to spend time in the garden this summer. But it would - it's rotting vegetation, after all. No-one ever said it would smell nice. Maybe you need a long garden!

Originally posted by sheffbag
If you say so........... grabbing a 5hit filled nappy and then having to scoop all the crap out before washing it (if hand washing getting your hands in it all, if automatic then making sure its all out before putting next load in before any lumps left mark the next washing. and that can be anything up to 7 nappies a day on a newborn.......

Sheffbag,

My son wore reusable nappies from the day he was born,until he no longer needed them.

You don't have to scoop any sh*t, its contained inside a liner which is flushed down the toilet.
The nappy is then stored in a bucket until you have enough to make a full load of washing.

There are never any "lumps" left to mark the next load because you have't put any "lumps" in there in the first place.

Using reusable nappies (as opposed to disposable) saves approximately £800 if you use them for one baby, obviously more if yo use them for a second, third, fourth baby.

Drying nappies is no problem. On the washing line in good weather, on an airer in the spare room if it's raining.

There really isn't any good reasonnot to use reusable nappies and plenty of good reasons why you should.

Anyone interested in using reusable nappies should look at the Womens Environmental Network website where you'll find lots of information and links to real nappy groups and sellers.

so if the supermarkets didnt sell them you wouldnt use them (eg for convinency)you wouldnt buy them but not every one uses wash rcycle nappies excuse my spelling , punctuation they use them becauce there quick and convinient . were now in the new age where every thing is easy quick simple regarding packaging from the supermarket,regarding nappies to pizza packaging wether you shove the phoo down the toilet it still smells repulsive ,and hygien is important the flys ,the smells ,at the end of the day i dont care about my self as much as i care about my kids they are the most important things in my life and as long as thier healthy that is what counts and i still disagree the bin men should come weekl regaurdless on how you recyle

Originally posted by SHsheff
Why is unprocessed fruit or vegetable waste from the kitchen not exactly the same as garden waste?

What's the difference 'tween carrot peelings from the kitchen and a rejected carrot from your vegetable patch in the corner of the garden?


I can't remember the exact details, but it's to do with Foot and Mouth disease.

Originally posted by sheffbag
If you say so........... grabbing a 5hit filled nappy and then having to scoop all the crap out before washing it (if hand washing getting your hands in it all, if automatic then making sure its all out before putting next load in before any lumps left mark the next washing. and that can be anything up to 7 nappies a day on a newborn.......


i managed to use terry nappies with my twins.........no big deal.
you can buy flushable nappy liners......so the poop goes down the loo, you dont have to 'scoop all the crap out' before washing.
everything of the kids(clothes,nappies, the lot) got bunged in the washer together and washed on a 40 degree wash with non-bio powder - there are NO lumps left to mark the next washing..
they havent died or caught anything/had rashes/etc
not every nappy system works for everyone, but dont be so critical! I saved a flippin fortune by using terries, and if i can do it without any problems, anyone can!

Originally posted by cgksheff
· Encourage residents to use the boxes for purposes other than recycling (e.g. toy boxes)
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Who are they kidding? our blue box gets rain soaked splattered with dirt from passing cars when it has been raining.

Anyway we have been on this new scheme for a couple of weeks now and in the warm weather recently the black bin smells much worse than it ever has done as it has been stood for a fortnight with food waste rotting inside - ugh.

Is this what we pay the exorbitant council tax for? A decrease in service standards?

Don't get me wrong I prefer to recycle and I'm all for promoting it but from an enviromental health perspective as well as a service perspective the fortnightly collection of standard household waste just isn't good enough :(

Rant over :P

~ Oops - double post which it won't let me delete :P ~

Originally posted by brad
so if the supermarkets didnt sell them you wouldnt use them (eg for convinency)you wouldnt buy them but not every one uses wash rcycle nappies excuse my spelling , punctuation they use them becauce there quick and convinient . were now in the new age where every thing is easy quick simple regarding packaging from the supermarket,regarding nappies to pizza packaging wether you shove the phoo down the toilet it still smells repulsive ,and hygien is important the flys ,the smells ,at the end of the day i dont care about my self as much as i care about my kids they are the most important things in my life and as long as thier healthy that is what counts and i still disagree the bin men should come weekl regaurdless on how you recyle

What is your point, Brad?

Poo smells less repulsive when flushed into the sewers (where it should be) than left to rot in a bin (where it then starts to become a health hazard).

There aren't any flies or hygeine issues attatched to reusable nappies so long as you wash your hands after changing and handling the nappy (as you would after changing a disposable nappies).

My childs is also the most important part of my life.The implications for a childs health with regard to disposable nappies (particularly boys) made my made up. There was absolutely no way I was sticking a wad of paper, plastic, toxic gel and chemicals round my boys bum 24 hours a day.

Originally posted by nightrider
so it would be better to fine people 5 or 10 pounds and put it in the right bin. That way they have an incentive not to do it wrong again and we dont end up with rubbish strewn across sheffields pavements.

I guess that'd be costly to administrate or they'd do it & make more money.

Originally posted by SHsheff
Why is unprocessed fruit or vegetable waste from the kitchen not exactly the same as garden waste?

What's the difference 'tween carrot peelings from the kitchen and a rejected carrot from your vegetable patch in the corner of the garden?


Genuinely curious, Siân!

I have absolutely no idea my point was more to do wth reading the 'instructions' that came with the bin.

I'd guess it's something to do with a ban on anything considered to be food - maybe it encourages rats. I've heard of people having problems with rats in their compost bins but I always assumed they were putting the wrong sort of stuff in as I never had a problem myself.

It's a standard thing when it comes to collection of green waste though - it was & is the same back in Essex. So not something specific to Onyx's weird & wonderful ways. So I bet there is a reason behind it - infact I may well go & google...

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This is a great idea. I look forward to when it comes up to Crookes.

We recycle pretty much everything we can (Plastic bottles, tins, paper, card, glass).

It takes a couple of extra minutes to rinse stuff out, leave it to dry and crush it ready for recycling.

We compost everything that hasn't been cooked (vegetable scraps, egg boxes etc). The composter is at the back of the garden and as we are careful what goes in - there is no smell from it.

When shopping we try to buy loose vegetables and reduce the amount of plastic.

The rest of our rubbish - which is basically uneaten food and plastic - goes into the normal bin. I would imagine we fill and put the wheelie bin out about once every 3-4 weeks. There is no smell as we don't eat meat and there isn't much food in it anyway.

Unfortunately we can't all go on chucking everything we want into the bin and it's ultimately an individual's problem rather than the councils. A big thumbs up to the council for trying to reduce the waste that gets burnt or sent to landfill.

thanks for help on that link didnt know how to do it cheers

I will add my two pennysworth if i may.

I live in north east derbyshire, dronfield to be exact, we have now moved onto the fortnightly bin collection.

We now have a blue box, blue bag, black bin, green bin.

The two bins are collected every 2 weeks, this week its the green bin. The blue thingys are collected once every 2 weeks.

I recycle everything, tins, bottles and cans in blue box, paper in blue bag, cardboard and green waste in green bin, everything else in black bin, i even save all my plastic (milk containers, butter, yogurt pots etc) and deposit them once a week in the plastic recycle bins at the nearby supermarket, so recyling wise i can do no more.

But here the problem lies, we are a family of 7, so create a fair bit of rubbish, tonight i have had to stand in my black bin to squash it down a bit, its allready full and theres still another 7 days till its emptied.

Now i have spoke to council, i can have a bigger bin but have to pay for it which i refuse to do, but the bigger bin may not be collected some weeks if the bin lorry has changed for some reason(somert to do with, other bin lorry can't pick up the larger bins).

Plus our bin men will not take bins if the lid is up, on health and safety grounds, but its ok for me to stand in it to squash it down.

Can't wait for the week when they turn round and refuse to empty bin because its too heavy, cos i will put bin in car and empty the lot outside council offices in chesterfield.