just been to roche abbey,took a few photos,as we were leaving took a couple of the gate house,noticed something strange on one of the photos so took again from same place,when i got home and had a look at them the first of the photos seemed to have a strange mist/plasma,the second of the two was normal-need a second opinion-if you would like to offer one i will email to you if you give me your email address and tell me what you think.the two photos in question were taken within seconds of eachother,it wasnt foggy,i wasnt smoking-there weird,see for yourself.

You been ghost hunting again...by all means email to me I have PM'd you!!

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Thanks for pics - I saw orbs and 'white smudges' could be ectoplasm!

Thanks for taking the time to send them to me....next time you are at Bunting Nook let me know I'll come with you and you can call back at mine for coffee!!

:thumbsup:

I haven't seen your photographs yet, but in the meantime, do they look anything like these?
Mist 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/mist2.jpg), Mist 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/mist1.jpg)

These are worth a look, as well:
Orbs 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/fog.jpg), Orbs 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/flash.jpg),

:shocked: orb one will scare anyone

isn't that raindrops on orb1...:confused:

ohh...I am interested!!

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hi i was thinkin that too

mmm, but wasnt raining,doesnt explain why none of the other photos arent the same

ignore my last comment im going ga ga

Ok, here goes. (Jon, just go to sleep for ten minutes, you must be sick of us going through this :hihi: ).

No, the orby things on pic 1 aren't exactly raindrops but you were close. Pic 1 was taken on a very (pea souper) foggy day at Stocksbridge bypass. The orbs are caused by the light from the camera's flash illuminating the water vapour in the air. The second orb photo was taken a split second after I sprayed a fine mist of water in front of the camera to achieve an orb photograph on demand. I've taken many more, of far greater quality, but they show what effect water vapour has on some digital cameras when illuminated by flash.

The misty pics look spooky, eh? They were taken at Wentworth graveyard at around 5 am. Jon discovered that the ectoplasm effect is actually caused by breathing out at the same time as a photograph is taken. Again, it's nothing but water vapour. Nothing could be seen with the naked eye when breathing out, but take a flash photograph, and there it is: spooky graveyard mists.

Thanks for the explanation Ant - are you a sceptic then??

..And that's what I think you've captured, dlee. I may be wrong, but it looks very similar to the many photos Jon and I have managed to take.

Originally posted by Shiesh
Thanks for the explanation Ant - are you a sceptic then??

Not at all. I've witnessed a couple of things that I can't explain away. But myself and Jon are very proud of what we achieved when we ran a paranormal group (we still conduct investigations), and we always pride ourselves on taking barrel loads of common sense and sound investigative practices with us whenever we undertake one. Way too many gullible airheads in the business at the moment. :rolleyes:

Can i wake up now ;) i thought all orb pics and grave yard pics had been explained..its another myth solved

Can I just mention then that the photos dlee emailed me were not taken with a flash....there are photos of complete darkness apart from the orbs and a cloud of mist that somehow has developed onto the images!!

Interesting...:o

all the photo,s were taken at arms length it doesnt explain how there was only 2 like that

Can i view the pictures you have taken?

Originally posted by Jon
:shocked: orb one will scare anyone

It that because it features you...:gag::hihi:

Originally posted by Shiesh
It that because it features you...:gag::hihi: Yes lol :hihi:

Originally posted by Shiesh
Can I just mention then that the photos dlee emailed me were not taken with a flash....there are photos of complete darkness apart from the orbs and a cloud of mist that somehow has developed onto the images!!

Interesting...:o

The images I've viewed seem very highly compressed, so it's hard for me to analyse them as well as I'd like, but boosting the brightness and contrast seems to highlight a lighting effect identical to that of a flash (revealing as well some illuminated water vapour in the air. Orbs, if you like). Of course at this point it becomes a war of "I didn't use a flash" against "oh yes you did", so we'll not even go there!

Nice pics anyway, dlee. But I see nothing paranormal, sadly.

Originally posted by dlee
all the photo,s were taken at arms length it doesnt explain how there was only 2 like that

Yes it does. The mist we captured at Wentworth were only on a handful of pictures. Water vapour from breathing out disperses very quickly, and there was a knack to capturing it on film, on demand. Capturing it on a random photo would be even rarer.

Many of our photographs were taken at arm's length, and some of the mists we caught were actually from each other's breath.

thanks for your opinion that is all i was asking for

:confused: That's all I've given.

I've looked at these pictures and i can't find anything pararnormal in them....maybe a local group will see ghosts of dead children dancing round a pylon...maybe they are lights in the distance you picked up on your camera.

Originally posted by Jon
I've looked at these pictures and i can't find anything pararnormal in them....maybe a local group will see ghosts of dead children dancing round a pylon...maybe they are lights in the distance you picked up on your camera.

I am sure Derek Acorah would see something like this...:heyhey:

No seriously - I do think on many occasions there is 'something' there...did anyone see that programme on TV the other night.....it was all about psychics and them reading messages like transmitters/receivers read radio waves...facinating!!

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Yeah, but the whole trouble with the psychic thing is that every time they are put to the test under tightly controlled laboratory conditions, they fail to produce evidence. So if they can't prove their "talents" are genuine, why shovel money into their pockets to supplement their housekeeping money? And if you pin one down long enough to make this point to them, all you get back is "I don't need to prove myself to anyone, I know it's for real, and that's all that matters". You wouldn't accept that from any other trade, so why should we accept it from psychics?

when i took these photos they were all took at arms length in the same environment,i took 87 photos last night at roche abbey,these were the last 2 photos i took before we left,there was no breeze,so if you are saying its my breath ive caught then dont you think thats bizzare that it was the last 2 photos and not on any of the others,i dont remember holding my breath for the other 85 photos,there was a party of 3 of us the other 2 were by my side (close) so surely there breath in the air combined with mine would have been caught on the majority of the photos,well i would have thought so,just seemed strange how it appeared on photos just as we were leaving.

the photos are of the gate house

Originally posted by dlee
when i took these photos they were all took at arms length in the same environment,i took 87 photos last night at roche abbey,these were the last 2 photos i took before we left,there was no breeze,so if you are saying its my breath ive caught then dont you think thats bizzare that it was the last 2 photos and not on any of the others,i dont remember holding my breath for the other 85 photos,there was a party of 3 of us the other 2 were by my side (close) so surely there breath in the air combined with mine would have been caught on the majority of the photos,well i would have thought so,just seemed strange how it appeared on photos just as we were leaving.

Try breathing out on a suitable morning when there is no breeze, and observe your breath. It disperses even before you have the chance to breathe in again. Whether they were taken at arm's length or not is irrelevant. I have already explained that even when trying to capture your own breath on camera, it's not an easy task to achieve - that explains quite adequately why only two of your images show the mist effect. The fact that it was on the last two photos is very probably coincidental.

We found this very often when we were submitted similar photographs at YPS - the senders dug in, defending the photos to the hilt. To them the images were paranormal and that was that. We finally had to back off from many correspondences to avoid losing friends. If you are happy that the photographs are paranormal in origin dlee, that's fine. I think they are not, so we will agree to differ. :thumbsup:

The advent of digital cameras has left large parts of the population with lots of "orbs" on their photos, when they didn't get them before.

It is purely a combination of an extremely cheap camera lens which doesn't have a hood or anti-glare coating, and any light which gets reflected or shines in to the lens at a funny angle causes these flaws on the picture.
If you look at a more expensive SLR (TTL) camera which has interchangeable lenses, they have a thread in the end to put filters or a rubber hood which shields unwanted lighting effects like this.

Here is a picture of a hood on a SLR camera
Lens with hood fitted (http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=JESRH55&BRAND=JES&CONTINUE=false&FEATS=&FIRSTPRICE=0&KEYWORD=&LEVEL=&MODELNUMBER=&NEWQUERY=True&NODE=208&ORD=ASC&ORDERBY=&QUANTITY=10&RECENT=0&REFINE=&SEARCH_FOR=&SEARCHNODE=0&SEARCHURL=dointellisearch.cfm&SECONDPRICE=999999&SHOWCASEID=&STARTROW=1&SUBS=&WORD_SEARCH=N&)

Just a quickie - were these digital images or good old chemical images?

The reason I ask is that you can get some very weird seeming anomalies on digital images caused by aliasing effects on the CCD and artefacts caused by the software used to render the images.

If it says 'chemical' somewhere then apologies!

Joe

Here's contrast/brightness cranked up versions of the Roche Abbey mist photographs.

You can clearly see the diminishing effect of the flash across the lawn. The mist looks similar to those seen in the Wentworth photographs, even given how much boosting the brightness and contrast on the image has grunged the appearance.

Roche Abbey (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/Roche4.jpg)
Roche Abbey 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/Roche.jpg)
Roche Abbey 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/Roche2.jpg)
Roche Abbey 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/Roche3.jpg)

the pics are digital

Could it be a cloud of insects - midges or similar?

They'd reflect light patchily, after all - though I would expect a 'speckly' effect rather than a mist.

Joe

no there was no there was nothing around