Someone tell my why we should pay TV license when the boss's and mangers of the BBC are making 100's of 1000's every year for sitting on there ass? I think even the TV presenters shouldnt get as much.

They keep bringing new radio stations and new TV channels out? Why dont we get a say in this since we are FORCED to pay for it? We have to pay our TV license's for the radio to be aired? So why dont people who listen to the radio have to pay?

There is only 3 shows that are worth watching on the BBC. Family guy, Top Gear and Russell Howards Big news

Sorry about the rant but i had to get it off my chest
Any comments people?

Rick

a simple choice, you could not buy it. dvds are much better value!

Yeah you don't have to buy it, but you watch BBC channels and...they can't make TV shows for free.

I like to watch TV.. But i dont understand if i dont tune in the BBC channels i still have to pay for it. I dont think it should be free.. but it should be alot cheaper

I like to watch TV.. But i dont understand if i dont tune in the BBC channels i still have to pay for it. I dont think it should be free.. but it should be alot cheaper

They run a business. They can charge whatever they want. As a consumer you can buy it or not buy it, why should they make it cheaper when most people are willing to pay what they charge?

theyve made it so even if you have a tv you STILL NEED to buy one, even if you dont watch bbc

theyve made it so even if you have a tv you STILL NEED to buy one, even if you dont watch bbc

I have a tv and I dont pay. I assume you mean if you watch the other channels. Maybe its because the bbc paid for the signal or something similar?

I have a tv and I dont pay. I assume you mean if you watch the other channels. Maybe its because the bbc paid for the signal or something similar?
no, if you have a tv thats capable of picking up a signel...even if you only watch dvds your supposed to have a license

they also spent a vast money or election party on the thames

I would pay it if it was £10 a month... Not £5.. a week :|
Its PC gone mad :P

they also spent a vast money or election party on the thames

I watched a few... they go on for about 5 mins.

and now on the BBC its all about the voting blah blah blah

£5.50 a week is a rip off considering over the weekend it's a load of crock what's on.

Is everyone posting on this thread living in a parrallel universe .... :huh:

You have to have a TV license if you have any equipment that allows you to watch or record TV programmes as they are being aired. It doesn't matter what the equipment is or whether you watch the BBC channels or not. So there is no 'buy it or don't buy it', you have to. It's not a business it's basically a compulsory television tax.

I have one even though I hardly watch live TV and have a media center PC not an actual television.

It costs £145.50 as well which isn't £5 a week :confused:

Edit - totally agree, LOVE Family Guy! Don't watch it on BBC3 though. Naughty me :)

It is ridiculously unfair.

Effectively were forced to pay money for receiving Electro-Magnetic Radiation, which we cannot choose not to receive, if we have equipment capable of receiving said Electro-magnetic Radiation. If we don't we face a fine or jail.

A referendum on the license would be welcome!

It's akin to shining light in a person eyes and charging them for receiving the light.

You might say, were born with sight (effectively inheriting it from our parents and ancestors), so its different. But what if you inherit a TV.

They run a business. They can charge whatever they want.

Backed up by the power of the state let's not forget. A free market it ain't.

I don't pay the TV license because I don't own a TV. There's nothing on live TV that I can't watch quite legally on catchup services like iPlayer and 4oD.

I have no problem with paying a TV license. After all, over the past year on BBC I have enjoyed QI, Have I Got News For You, Top Gear, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Mitchell & Webb, Marathon Man, Doctor Who, Being Human, and Ashes To Ashes (and a few other shows to a lesser extent)

If I was to estimate the cost of a season on DVD of any show, it would be around £30. So, I have at least gotten 9shows x £30 = £270 of entertainment for less than half the price...and that doesn't include the other half enjoying her soaps and Saturday night TV entertainment (you know, those "who will be the next Dorothy" kind of thing), or the fantastic entertainment and education that Cbeebies gives to my kids.

Personally I think the license fee is quite cheap for what the BBC offer from it.

I have no problem with paying a TV license. After all, over the past year on BBC I have enjoyed QI, Have I Got News For You, Top Gear, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Mitchell & Webb, Marathon Man, Doctor Who, Being Human, and Ashes To Ashes (and a few other shows to a lesser extent)

If I was to estimate the cost of a season on DVD of any show, it would be around £30. So, I have at least gotten 9shows x £30 = £270 of entertainment for less than half the price...and that doesn't include the other half enjoying her soaps and Saturday night TV entertainment (you know, those "who will be the next Dorothy" kind of thing), or the fantastic entertainment and education that Cbeebies gives to my kids.

Personally I think the license fee is quite cheap for what the BBC offer from it.

Might it be that DVDs are ridiculously expensive.

Might it be that DVDs are ridiculously expensive.

Could it be that Tv companies are in the business to make a profit, and are not a charity?

Most shows, even those on the BBC, are made by external production companies, and the Beeb purchases, or co-funds, the series. Of course they want to turn a profit, and I have no issue with that. Hence the cost of the DVDs (much as with the cost of movie DVDs - consider an average movie at 2 hours long selling for £15 on DVD....a series of 8 episodes of Life on mars selling for £35 for around 7 and a half hours of entertainment....which is value for money?)

There is no pressure to buy the DVD, yet I can see the shows for a dirt cheap license fee price. With the added benefits of glorious HD too. If I choose to pick them up on DVD later, then that is an additional cost should I wish to pay for it, much as I can choose to pick up films on BluRay/DVD if I enjoy having seen them on the big screen.

theyve made it so even if you have a tv you STILL NEED to buy one, even if you dont watch bbc

That's how it has always been though fella.

I have a tv and I dont pay. I assume you mean if you watch the other channels. Maybe its because the bbc paid for the signal or something similar?

No, you are required by the Wireless Telegraphy Act to pay a license fee if you have a set which is capable of receiving a television signal.

no, if you have a tv thats capable of picking up a signel...even if you only watch dvds your supposed to have a license

Not if it is detuned.

£5.50 a week is a rip off considering over the weekend it's a load of crock what's on.

It also pays for the websites, radio stations (local and national, not to mention worldwide), the money which goes to pay for (what's left of) terrestrial sport, the most influential and respected news broadcasts the world over, and God(TM) knows what else.

We're actually very fortunate. The few quid it costs per week to have the quality we have is a small price.

Then again, if you're that bothered, get your info from Fox News or internet blogs instead.

It is alot when you pay for sky or virgin on top
of the license!

no, if you have a tv thats capable of picking up a signel...even if you only watch dvds your supposed to have a license

being as we have had the tv licence people round and they agree with me, I know you are wrong. Read the website!

You have to have a TV license if you have any equipment that allows you to watch or record TV programmes as they are being aired. It doesn't matter what the equipment is or whether you watch the BBC channels or not. So there is no 'buy it or don't buy it', you have to. It's not a business it's basically a compulsory television tax.

I have one even though I hardly watch live TV and have a media center PC not an actual television.

It costs £145.50 as well which isn't £5 a week :confused:

Edit - totally agree, LOVE Family Guy! Don't watch it on BBC3 though. Naughty me :)

untrue!!!!!

It is ridiculously unfair.

Effectively were forced to pay money for receiving Electro-Magnetic Radiation, which we cannot choose not to receive, if we have equipment capable of receiving said Electro-magnetic Radiation. If we don't we face a fine or jail.

A referendum on the license would be welcome!

It's akin to shining light in a person eyes and charging them for receiving the light.

You might say, were born with sight (effectively inheriting it from our parents and ancestors), so its different. But what if you inherit a TV.

also untrue. Its very simple, you only need the licence if you watch live tv. Im not even sure whether you have to detune your tv, although its safer to do so!

I have no problem with paying a TV license. After all, over the past year on BBC I have enjoyed QI, Have I Got News For You, Top Gear, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Mitchell & Webb, Marathon Man, Doctor Who, Being Human, and Ashes To Ashes (and a few other shows to a lesser extent)

If I was to estimate the cost of a season on DVD of any show, it would be around £30. So, I have at least gotten 9shows x £30 = £270 of entertainment for less than half the price...and that doesn't include the other half enjoying her soaps and Saturday night TV entertainment (you know, those "who will be the next Dorothy" kind of thing), or the fantastic entertainment and education that Cbeebies gives to my kids.

Personally I think the license fee is quite cheap for what the BBC offer from it.

not if you buy second hand dvds then its £2-5 per dvd.

no wonder everyone moans that it is a tax. Read the rules.

It also pays for the websites, radio stations (local and national, not to mention worldwide), the money which goes to pay for (what's left of) terrestrial sport, the most influential and respected news broadcasts the world over, and God(TM) knows what else.

We're actually very fortunate. The few quid it costs per week to have the quality we have is a small price.

Then again, if you're that bothered, get your info from Fox News or internet blogs instead.Don't shoot me down for having an opinion please. It just goes through me that so many people are watching tv illegally with no licence and yet all us honest people are paying for those eejits to watch it without a licence.

the t.v. license is just another tax and should be abolished,when you hear of the saleries some of them are on its disgusting.they say they have to compete but why the money is guaranteed so they should provide a service .not provide a free service to multi millionaires to recruit new stars.the government should privatise them if they want to chase ratings

when i first lived on my own i bought the black and white licence then when i thought about it never bought one since nearly 30 years of not owning one pity the people who did .thats the trouble with this country no backbone if we all refused this would soon be got rid of but like anything else people just do as authority tells them too and dosent question it

Is everyone posting on this thread living in a parrallel universe .... :huh:

No they are just breaking the law.

No, you are required by the Wireless Telegraphy Act to pay a license fee if you have a set which is capable of receiving a television signal.

Not so though. As llamatron says you need a licence to watch a broadcast at the time it is being broadcast. That's the only rule there is. Your house can be jammed full of working equipment and you still don't need any sort of licence even if the 'detector van' shakes itself to pieces outside your window.

The misinformation and confusion is startling, but the BBC certainly don't hide the rule - people just don't read it properly and so continue to believe false facts.

A few people have told me that if you own a computer and have a internet connection that the law may change so you have to pay for that too

May be rummer but you never know

the law only applys if you watch live TV. you do not need a TV licence to watch BBC I player if it's catchup.

Someone tell my why we should pay TV license when the boss's and mangers of the BBC are making 100's of 1000's every year for sitting on there ass? I think even the TV presenters shouldnt get as much.

They keep bringing new radio stations and new TV channels out? Why dont we get a say in this since we are FORCED to pay for it? We have to pay our TV license's for the radio to be aired? So why dont people who listen to the radio have to pay?

There is only 3 shows that are worth watching on the BBC. Family guy, Top Gear and Russell Howards Big news

Sorry about the rant but i had to get it off my chest
Any comments people?

Rick



agree with you there. there are 13 people at the bbc that are directors and earning more than the prime minister does. no wonder its known as the bloated broadcasting corporation

Someone tell my why we should pay TV license when the boss's and mangers of the BBC are making 100's of 1000's every year for sitting on there ass? I think even the TV presenters shouldnt get as much.

They keep bringing new radio stations and new TV channels out? Why dont we get a say in this since we are FORCED to pay for it? We have to pay our TV license's for the radio to be aired? So why dont people who listen to the radio have to pay?

There is only 3 shows that are worth watching on the BBC. Family guy, Top Gear and Russell Howards Big news

Sorry about the rant but i had to get it off my chest
Any comments people?

Rick

If you don't you will have to do some penal servitude in Wormwood Scrubs.

So you're saying that you don't even need to have a TV? You just watch everything on Iplayer on your PC? Provided you watch it when it's just finished?

Is everything on I player though? Even Ch 4 and ITV etc and the News and stuff? I know I probs sound really dumb but I've never thought about it before. For what it costs, £12 a month?, it's not worth the hassle of watching it on a little pc monitor.

The 'rules'

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/

"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."


That's crystal clear to me.

So you're saying that you don't even need to have a TV? You just watch everything on Iplayer on your PC? Provided you watch it when it's just finished?

Is everything on I player though? Even Ch 4 and ITV etc and the News and stuff? I know I probs sound really dumb but I've never thought about it before. For what it costs, £12 a month?, it's not worth the hassle of watching it on a little pc monitor.
no its only bbc stuff..........and no they dont have everything on there

no its only bbc stuff..........and no they dont have everything on thereWell then, it's a rubbish idea .. I'd sooner just pay the £12 a month - far cheaper than going to the cinema twice ... and you aren't forced to drink brackish coke and eat clarty popcorn either then :D

I think sky and virgin media should add it too your bill. I would be happy to add a couple of quid to my bill every month so i dont have to bother paying it.

Am I the only person here who thinks that the TV licence is worth every single penny and the BBC is the finest broadcasting company in the world. I'd pay the licence fee just for Radio 4, everything else is a bonus.

By the way, isn't it amazing that Sky/Virgin customers always talk of £/month and the licence fee in £/year. A miracle of marketing ....

Sky = £396

BBC Licence fee = £11 ;)

Well then, it's a rubbish idea .. I'd sooner just pay the £12 a month - far cheaper than going to the cinema twice ... and you aren't forced to drink brackish coke and eat clarty popcorn either then :D

if i come round ill force feed you stella and dry roasted nuts :P

No, you are required by the Wireless Telegraphy Act to pay a license fee if you have a set which is capable of receiving a television signal.

You don't. My mate doesn't watch TV but has one connected to his Sinclair Spectrum.

It will be even easier to prove your innocence when the analogue signal is switched off and TVs without any Freeview equipment built in cannot receive anything.

You don't. My mate doesn't watch TV but has one connected to his Sinclair Spectrum.

It will be even easier to prove your innocence when the analogue signal is switched off and TVs without any Freeview equipment built in cannot receive anything.
sinclair spectrum? they sound familier :suspect:

tv licence crap

tv licence crap

I agree with Kylie.. Simple but effective lol

So we're only payng for the BBC? Thats what i heard a few weeks back, They never had tv liscence in Australia.. Mind you there was more commercials..

Ive got big problems about paying it as when I lived abroad it was free but then I guess they had 20 million more commericals so you have to way that up I guess

How late at night do these chaps come out ? looking for evaders i only watch TV late at night , so may not bother getting one next time

Am I the only person here who thinks that the TV licence is worth every single penny and the BBC is the finest broadcasting company in the world. I'd pay the licence fee just for Radio 4, everything else is a bonus.



Most of the tv I watch is BBC. I love the BBC's output: BBC1; BBC2; BBC3; BBC4; Radio 1; 1 Extra; Radio 2; Radio 3; Radio 4; 5Live; 6Music; Asian Network; World Service; HOW many local radio stations?!; BBCi; The BBC Website and its labyrinthine offshoots; BBC News24 - all the best of their type, free from advertiser/sponsor influence, constantly turning out quality programming (not necessarily to my taste but hey ho) and all paid for my our PALTRY 'licence fee'. People don't know how lucky they are. Go outside the UK, look at the TV, listen to the radio, and reflect on what we have here.

no, if you have a tv thats capable of picking up a signel...even if you only watch dvds your supposed to have a license

This isn't true. If you read the back of your licence you will find you only need one if - "you watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV". If you use BBC iPlayer, 4OD, ITV Player etc you don't need one! I now don't have or need one! - Link (http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/terms-and-conditions-top11/)

I like to watch TV.. But i dont understand if i dont tune in the BBC channels i still have to pay for it. I dont think it should be free.. but it should be alot cheaper

PArt of the licence fee maintains the broadcast infrastructure that all channels use. That's why you pay for the licence regardless of whether you watch the BBC or not.

Anyone know how to install freesat?

Anyone know how to install freesat?

no different to fittting a normal dish..infact if you already have the dish just hook up the freesat receiver and tune it in.. :P

Someone tell my why we should pay TV license when the boss's and mangers of the BBC are making 100's of 1000's every year for sitting on there ass? I think even the TV presenters shouldnt get as much.

Rick

This has been done to death. It's the law, live with it, flog your TV or risk the fine.

Apparently is free in Australia, you could move there and watch thousands of adverts. my OH is so happy that BBC acquired the Grand Prix because he can watch the race without interruptions.:D

My TV has had the tuner disabled, the RF socket removed, and the hole sealed up.

I'd like to see then get a signal on that, even with a finger/screwdriver. :hihi:

flog your TV or risk the fine.

Or you could just disconnect the aerial and detune the TV.

with sky or cable you get a choice pay or dont pay with bbc you got no choice pay its crap

think its pre-historic, it was set up when tv channels were limited we now have hundreds possibly thousands in this country, personaly do not watch any bbc channels, do not listen to any radio stations bbc or otherwise annd do not watch bbc iplayer thing mentioned.

i do have sky and pay my fee to them for the privlidge, i mainly watch itv channel 4 sky1 living and mtv.

i had a huge kick of over my tv licence last year after being very ill it had lapsed and a 'agent' came to the door quizzed me to high hell and i ended up in court i did not get fined over pleading my case about why it had lapsed but i did catch the sniveling slimy tv licence guy out who had back dated my licence then told the magistrate they don't do that (i had the paper work they supplied me which dropped them in it)

i am now paying £5.60 per week very begrudgingly but still dont get why i should have to pay it when its for a service i do not want or use.

yep youve got a choice to pay for sky or not youve no choice but to pay for bbc or get a fine we should all get together and refuse to pay come the revolution

yep youve got a choice to pay for sky or not youve no choice but to pay for bbc or get a fine we should all get together and refuse to pay come the revolution

I agree. The Yorkshire Uprising!

yep will start discussion tonight in nelson up the revolution

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