how can they say that smacking your child will soon be against the law i dont me beating them just a smacked bottom when they are teachers getting away with beating the living daylights out of a pupil with a dumb bell it stinks its 1 rule for 1 and another rule for another

......... getting away with .........

Check your facts.

Guilty of grievous bodily harm and has spent 8 months in custody while on remand, which has led the judge to say that additional sentencing is likely to be a community order.

well you tell me

I'm sorry but how do they expect parents to tell their children off. A slap on the bum or the hands, not a hard one but enough to tell them that whenever they go for something they arent supposed to they are going to get a tap on the hand and it'll put them off doing it. I used to get slapped legs when i was younger and it kept me in line, my partner used to get a leather pad across his backside if he mis behaved (although would never dream of that now)...we're talking about tapping our kids to tell them off not beating them around!

Try reasoning with them. I've never needed to smack my son, he's 19 now and never been in any trouble at all.

i no its getting to the point were we have way of telling our childeren off and they wonder why this generation is f****d up and every1 wants to shoot or stab you

Try reasoning with a two year old whose demanding sweets or throwing a strop or even hitting you. I would never paste my child as we used to have when we were younger im talking about a tap on the hand and a firm "no"

ty reasoning with a child who had adhd then tell me belive me its not that simple

A smack on the bum is fine as far as I'm concernced.

I'm around kids all the time and it's always the parents who
don't believe in smacking who are sly horrible little sods. Not all, but some.

I think this worlds gone mad I really do.

My friend once smacked her 3yr old on the bum in asda for being naughty and the look this woman gave her was unreal!!!! Years ago no one would have batted an eyelid!

ty reasoning with a child who had adhd then tell me belive me its not that simple


I know 4 kids who developed ADHD and their parents were ones who didn't believe in smacking!

I know it's not always the case but it's something which has always stood out to me!

every1 wants to shoot or stab you

I don't.

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ty reasoning with a child who had adhd then tell me belive me its not that simple

and beating them is the alternative?

and beating them is the alternative?

Your definition of beating is weird.

Tell you what - I won't tell you how to live your life - you don't tell me how to raise my children. Sounds fair to me.

And most of the kids I know who are little terrors are the ones whose parents sit down and talk to them and explain to them why they are being naughty - as if the child does not know.

i dont agree with beating a child just a slap on the botton or hand and dragonofana got it in 1

Try reasoning with a two year old whose demanding sweets or throwing a strop or even hitting you. I would never paste my child as we used to have when we were younger im talking about a tap on the hand and a firm "no"

I wonder how he learned to do that?? It should have never have gotten to that stage. Childen copy and 'lean' from their parents. When you have a child that child should come first. It is your responsibility to teach, nurture and care for that child until it reaches adulthood. The trouble with a lot of parents I see today while out shopping, you know the ones we've all seen them on their mobiles chatting to friends while slapping their kids for walking too slow or for screaming and even crying, Oh yes if you don't shop crying I'll slap you again ..maybe that will stop you?? Why be bothered to find out why a child is crying or behaving it that way when smacking is a quick and easy way to shut them up. It's far easier for them to scare their childen by hurting them instead of learning them.

I wonder how he learned to do that?? It should have never have gotten to that stage. Childen copy and 'lean' from their parents. When you have a child that child should come first. It is your responsibility to teach, nurture and care for that child until it reaches adulthood. The trouble with a lot of parents I see today while out shopping, you know the ones we've all seen them on their mobiles chatting to friends while slapping their kids for walking too slow or for screaming and even crying, Oh yes if you don't shop crying I'll slap you again ..maybe that will stop you?? Why be bothered to find out why a child is crying or behaving it that way when smacking is a quick and easy way to shut them up. It's far easier for them to scare their childen by hurting them instead of learning them.

Or even teaching them. :hihi:

But this is the sort of rot that is eroding the country :gag:

Seriously though - Does it not appear that the more we concern ourselves with explaining the meaning of life, the universe and everything to a three year old, the worse kids behave?

There is a saying "Spare the rod, spoil the child". I would not condone beating a child but really - if you think it is as simple as children learning everything from their parents then I will never understand you. Most children learn from seeing and experimenting. This hammer hurts me if I hit myself with it - think I'll see if it hurts when I hit my mum with it - she's crying so it must have hurt - she's telling me it hurt and I should not do it - wonder if it will hurt my brother and what he will do ....

You see, this is the unfortunate downside to Labour governments...an omnipotent state.

Parents disciplining their children is a family matter and not for a stasi state to interfere and dictate.

i dont mean smacking them for stupid things like walking 2 slow or basically being a child i mean if the child doe's something wrong like break somthing that dont belong them or if they hit another child then in those circumstances i do agree with it

i think its down to the parents not being able to give stern discipline that the majority of children are very bad nawadays children walk all over an adult they see the law as beneath them and can do as they please a good talking to is not usually the right way about it when we were kids a smacked arse made you realise you wernt to do it again and kids today are short of it, in my opinion. i raise my voice at mine they get the stern look and they no when not to push me my youngest gets away with alot but he knows not to push it to get a smacked arse.my nan use to say u knock 1 devil out and 2 back in giving a child a smack and i suppose its down to the child and the company they keep if you give your child the respect they will respect you back give it em on a plate and they want more and will take it with out it being offered.

Reading through the posts, it seems no-one advocates "beating" children, just a "little" smack or tap???? Well if it's just a tap or smack then that's not a deterent is it???? So why bother?
I have raised two kids, neither have had so much as a tap. Both now teenagers, happy and outgoing and great confidence, I know it's not over yet as teenage years can be difficult, but so far, not hitting them doesn't seem to have done them any harm.

I wonder how he learned to do that?? It should have never have gotten to that stage. Childen copy and 'lean' from their parents. ...

Interesting. So when little Jimmy bites one of the other children (and kids do go through a biting phase) it's because his parents bit him, is it?

Your definition of beating is weird.

Tell you what - I won't tell you how to live your life - you don't tell me how to raise my children. Sounds fair to me.

A statement like that is telling me how to live my life. I'll take that as permission to tell you how to raise your children. :cool:


most of the kids I know who are little terrors are the ones whose parents sit down and talk to them and explain to them why they are being naughty - as if the child does not know.

Most of the kids that I know who are little terrors are that way inclined because of poor parenting.

You are right to identify the wishy washy, touchy feely stuff that some parents do as one of the problems. Bigger problems occur in kids with violent parents and parents who pay them no attention whatsoever.

Bringing up a child is a difficult task. Good discipline needs consistent clear boundaries and effective sanctions. It also needs clear explanations to the kid of the reasons behind the boundaries. Smacking kids isn't necessary, disciplining them is.

You see, this is the unfortunate downside to Labour governments...an omnipotent state.

Parents disciplining their children is a family matter and not for a stasi state to interfere and dictate.

I don't agree with you GItD. Parental discipline affects everyone. If everyone brought their kids up with care, the country would be a much more pleasant place to live in.

Your definition of beating is weird.

Tell you what - I won't tell you how to live your life - you don't tell me how to raise my children. Sounds fair to me.

And most of the kids I know who are little terrors are the ones whose parents sit down and talk to them and explain to them why they are being naughty - as if the child does not know.

That is the same in my experience too, its not exclusive but from what I see it is definitely the case that there are more little terrors in the unsmacked sector.

I wonder how he learned to do that?? It should have never have gotten to that stage. Childen copy and 'lean' from their parents. When you have a child that child should come first. It is your responsibility to teach, nurture and care for that child until it reaches adulthood. The trouble with a lot of parents I see today while out shopping, you know the ones we've all seen them on their mobiles chatting to friends while slapping their kids for walking too slow or for screaming and even crying, Oh yes if you don't shop crying I'll slap you again ..maybe that will stop you?? Why be bothered to find out why a child is crying or behaving it that way when smacking is a quick and easy way to shut them up. It's far easier for them to scare their childen by hurting them instead of learning them.

Hmmmm. I've got two kids. The eldest is the most calm chilled out kid you could meet. The youngest is a little bundle of fury and he just punched me in the stomach in the shop. We've treated them both exactly the same, never smacked either of them. I wouldn't change my youngest one - he's great fun and a great laugh but he has an edge to him that makes him who he is.

So I don't think it's as simple as you describe. We're all different. I don't think there's any standard way to make children behave in a uniform perfect way. Some will be good. Some will be bad at times. It has always been like that.

How do you reason with a child not old enough to understand adult reasoning, i got a good hiding as a child if i misbehaved and learned right away, and i don't hold it against my father in the slightest.

There are times you tell them what is right and wrong and then there are times when they are going all out and knowingly...3 warnings and a crack on the arse.

If a law is passed saying otherwise i WILL move to a country that allows freedoms.

Try reasoning with a two year old whose demanding sweets or throwing a strop or even hitting you. I would never paste my child as we used to have when we were younger im talking about a tap on the hand and a firm "no"

I dont even need to slap my 17 month old daughter i just have to raise my voice slightly and say "no" and she listens i have tapped her hand but only if something she was going to do would really hurt her.

I can recommend a technique that tends to alarm all do-gooders within range!

In a situation requireing chastisement of a small child, hold their hand inside one's palm and clap over it with your other hand.

No slapping/pain occurs but the clapping with its light contact can transmit an additional level of seriousness along with the verbal admonishment.

My kids had a slapped bum when they were little, as did i and my brother, it never did us any harm, its ridiculous having all these do-gooders bleeting, when its making kids do wrong things cos they know they can get away with it.

I don't agree with you GItD. Parental discipline affects everyone. If everyone brought their kids up with care, the country would be a much more pleasant place to live in.

Well anyhoo, on may 7th the very notion of the state telling people how to discipline their children will be history.

And stop calling me gitD.

I've smacked my kids and every single time it's got nothing to do with teaching them a lesson and all to do with me feeling the rage and releasing the tension.

Whether they can learn a lesson from that, I don't know.

It's the idea of 'controlled smacking' that I find odd, as the act should never be detached from the emotion involved . . . if that makes sense.

how can they say that smacking your child will soon be against the law i dont me beating them just a smacked bottom when they are teachers getting away with beating the living daylights out of a pupil with a dumb bell it stinks its 1 rule for 1 and another rule for another

Do you know the full facts behind the teacher hitting the teen with a dumbell?
The guy has been teaching for 20 years with a good rep. He has major family problems at home, and of top of that, his class were pushing him to the limits where he cracked.

When you really really love your child you can't smack them. Parents should spend more time with their child, don't take them shopping, why and what's the point.

Smacking children is never right...it is lazy parenting and if people say that it is to keep their child safe or "shock" them into good behaviour they are ignorant. Explaining to a child why they should not do something works far better...if they do bad things then taking toys or privileges works far better.