It seems there are plenty good restaurants in Sheffield but few 'top chefs' (no insults meant to any of our current chef's, hope you know what i mean!).

i just wonder if there would be a need for a Michelin restaurant?

any thoughts?

Sheffield doesn't have a Michelin restaurant?

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The Old Vicarage is starred I think.

It seems there are plenty good restaurants in Sheffield but few 'top chefs' (no insults meant to any of our current chef's, hope you know what i mean!).

i just wonder if there would be a need for a Michelin restaurant?

any thoughts?

It does - http://www.theoldvicarage.co.uk/

However, we are desperate for somewhere decent in TOWN. The only good place in the centre is Platillos.

The Old Vicarage hardly counts as being in Sheffield, it's miles out! That's the only reason I've never been - I'd either have to drive and not have any wine with the meal, or we'd have to get a taxi both ways which would cost a fortune from where I live. That said, while it'd be nice to have a Michelin starred restaurant in a more central location, Sheffield still has some fantastic places to eat so I'm not too bothered by the lack of stars!

To be fair, I've eaten at some very nice places that haven't been starred, and some not so good ones that have. Perhaps my tastes? I don't know, but I wouldn't discount anywhere because of a star rating.

The Old Vicarage hardly counts as being in Sheffield, it's miles out! That's the only reason I've never been - I'd either have to drive and not have any wine with the meal, or we'd have to get a taxi both ways which would cost a fortune from where I live. That said, while it'd be nice to have a Michelin starred restaurant in a more central location, Sheffield still has some fantastic places to eat so I'm not too bothered by the lack of stars!

why doesnt it count as sheffield????
seeing as how it is in sheffield!!!:loopy:

I people want TJ Huges and chip butties then that’s what they get, if you want a bit of culture there is always Leeds or Manchester.

It does - http://www.theoldvicarage.co.uk/

However, we are desperate for somewhere decent in TOWN. The only good place in the centre is Platillos.

desperate? i'm sure sheffield and its residents will cope without one :loopy:

To be fair, I've eaten at some very nice places that haven't been starred, and some not so good ones that have. Perhaps my tastes? I don't know, but I wouldn't discount anywhere because of a star rating.

Indeed, it's not the be all and end all of a good restaurant.

Nowhere needs a Michelin starred restaurant, but they add something to a city's reputation and it would certainly put Sheffield on the culinary map if there were a few of them here rather than just the one.

I've never eaten in a Michelin starred restaurant myself and prefer a more relaxed informal sort of place. My favourite sort of places are the Asian "food factory" sort of place where they just bang out brilliant food at a furious pace like the sort of places you get in Indonesia, Vietnam and Singapore.

why doesnt it count as sheffield????
seeing as how it is in sheffield!!!:loopy:

Ridgeway is actually in Derbyshire.

desperate? i'm sure sheffield and its residents will cope without one :loopy:

Ok - maybe it's just me that is desperate for a decent eatery in town, rather than on the outskirts. And by decent - I don't mean it has to be Michelin Star - just decent.

Leeds for example, has Anthony's and Fourth Floor at Harvey Nicks - both very nice. What do we have, on that level, you know somewhere you can take your mum out for a treat after shopping?

Leeds for example, has Anthony's and Fourth Floor at Harvey Nicks

But do either have a Michelin star?

You have to travel to Scunthorpe for the finest Michelin rated restaurant in the region, probably the finest outside London. Does Scunthorpe benefit from it?

Ok - maybe it's just me that is desperate for a decent eatery in town, rather than on the outskirts. And by decent - I don't mean it has to be Michelin Star - just decent.

Leeds for example, has Anthony's and Fourth Floor at Harvey Nicks - both very nice. What do we have, on that level, you know somewhere you can take your mum out for a treat after shopping?

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is the walnut club Michelin 'recommended'??
do the people of sheffield care for the pretence that could be seen around having a michelin star??

We do need more good restaurants in my opinion, not necceserily michelin. I have had good and bad experiences of michelin starred food. Best was either Restaurant Sat Baines in Nottingham or Lindsay House in London (Richard Corrigans old restaurant) or le manoir. All innovative, tasty food with great service too. Worst Sharrow Bay in the lake district. Over priced and too reliant on its location. Michelin is quite over rated in my opinion, aa ratings are far better to find a decent restaurant.

I would love a Michelin Starred Rest' in Sheffield but I doubt it would do very well.

The Old Vicarage is not good quality, the food has been nice in the past, and on odd occasion the food has been poor. I had food poisoning from the Old Vic once and the owners attitude towards this was disgusting so I won't be going back. Also they give the impression that they 'think' the Old Vic is far too good for anyone!! So that place doesn't count IMO.

There are some restaurants around Sheffield that are of Michelin Star quality but don't actually hold the stars - this doesn't faze me, stars don't make it better than anywhere else, stars just mean all the food looks like how the Michelin judges want it to look as I have had poor quality meals at the Old Vic which holds a star!

Ok - maybe it's just me that is desperate for a decent eatery in town, rather than on the outskirts. And by decent - I don't mean it has to be Michelin Star - just decent.
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There are quiet a few decent restaurants in Sheffield, not directly in the centre but they are in Sheffield area.

The city centres caters for drinking instead of food IMO.

Ridgeway is actually in Derbyshire.

The Old Vicarage claims it is `The only Michelin starred restaurant in Sheffield`.

Fischers at Baslow is very good consistently, I dont know whether they have a star or not. The atmosphere is good, the staff welcoming and knowledgeable. Sheffield post code if not actually in the city.

The Derwentwater at Calver has good pub food. Also Reeds at Mexborough (believe it or not) can be excellent as long as the maitre de Ian is on duty.

I've never eaten in a Michelin starred restaurant myself and prefer a more relaxed informal sort of place. My favourite sort of places are the Asian "food factory" sort of place where they just bang out brilliant food at a furious pace like the sort of places you get in Indonesia, Vietnam and Singapore.

I have eaten in a few Michelin places in London - and loads of places like you describe in Asia. If cost was absolutely no option, I'd have the Asian places any time. Mental service, loud, bright, often uncomfortable seating (if it exists at all it may well be next to a main road or a tropical beach), cheap beer, no customer service, plastic or paper plates and cutlery; but the freshest and best cooked food imaginable.

We don't need a Michelin starred restaurant. The ones I've eaten in are good but really are just a reflection on the chef's ego. It seems that the majority of starred London eateries are given them for doing something different, even when there's nothing wrong with the original. I'm not against experimentation, but there's something wrong when experimentation is a necessity to get recognition.

I don't think a Michelin starred place would hurt Sheffield, but that's different to Sheffield needing a high-end type place. Innovative cooking is more suited to the pubs in Sheffield - though we're lacking establishements such as The Star Inn at Harome, or The Coach and Horses in Clerkenwell, places where the menu's are actually interesting to read and eat from. The Coach and Horses at Dronfield makes a fair stab at it and The Cricket Inn sometimes hits the mark, but there's still something lacking.

I still question whether the customer base is actually here in Sheffield in order to support restaurants/ pubs that would push the boat out a little regarding the use of less common ingredients, or different cooking styles.

I wonder how well an Anthony's would do in Sheffield?

There are quiet a few decent restaurants in Sheffield, not directly in the centre but they are in Sheffield area.

The city centres caters for drinking instead of food IMO.

But most other city centres have decent restaurants. Why does Sheffield have to be the only city in England without a really good, high-end, non-chain, not necessarily Michelin, restaurant in the city centre?

It must be the rents, I suppose? Maybe only a few new and independent dare attempt it in town.

I still question whether the customer base is actually here in Sheffield in order to support restaurants/ pubs that would push the boat out a little regarding the use of less common ingredients, or different cooking styles.

I wonder how well an Anthony's would do in Sheffield?

But the sushi restaurants do well. Jabu seems to be ok. Milestone has some unique menus. I think we're ready for something. Someone other than flaming Richard Smith! However, saying that I would even welcome his artisan in town (not that I've been but I think it is the kind of thing I'm looking for).

Then again, you remember Boho? Didn't last long. Balls.

Richard Smith's cooking isn't what it was, and never what it was claimed (in my opinion at least) so he does bistros now.

When 23 tried they sadly found that there was little demand in Sheffield for what they were trying to do, so they extended the bar and pushed it back down market.

Sheffield is a tough city, or maybe a wise city. Restaurants, bars and clubs are incredibly good ways of making a small fortune out of a large one.

Then again, you remember Boho? Didn't last long. Balls.

Boho? It rings a bell but I can't recall it! When / where was it?

Boho? It rings a bell but I can't recall it! When / where was it?

Campo Lane, became Affinity the gay bar that has now relocated. Space currently up for lease again through Enterprise.

Campo Lane, became Affinity the gay bar that has now relocated. Space currently up for lease again through Enterprise.

Thank you - I remember now. I don't even work far from there and still couldn't remember!

Sheffield is a tough city, or maybe a wise city. Restaurants, bars and clubs are incredibly good ways of making a small fortune out of a large one.

this maybe so but look at the success' of leopald square who are all (correct me if im wrong) chain bars?
i believe there is demand for this but to hep compete over the larger bars and restuarants, we need to look out for these places and support the independant more, wherever possible!

At least 3 of the venues in Leopold Sq are privateers. I've no idea if they are making money.

no it does not.

why doesnt it count as sheffield????
seeing as how it is in sheffield!!!:loopy:

Because like I said, it's miles out. Yes, the address is Sheffield, but it's so far out it's likely to be fairly inaccessible to anyone who doesn't live on that side of the city. I'm not looking for a pointless argument, I'm just stating that as far as I'm concerned, Sheffield might as well not have a Michelin starred restaurant if the only one is a 30 mile round trip for me.

Ok - maybe it's just me that is desperate for a decent eatery in town, rather than on the outskirts. And by decent - I don't mean it has to be Michelin Star - just decent.

Leeds for example, has Anthony's and Fourth Floor at Harvey Nicks - both very nice. What do we have, on that level, you know somewhere you can take your mum out for a treat after shopping?

Cafe on the gallery after a day in Castle Market.

Cafe on the gallery after a day in Castle Market.

Ha ha - I'll bear that one in mind!

Richard Smith's cooking isn't what it was, and never what it was claimed (in my opinion at least) so he does bistros now.

When 23 tried they sadly found that there was little demand in Sheffield for what they were trying to do, so they extended the bar and pushed it back down market.

Sheffield is a tough city, or maybe a wise city. Restaurants, bars and clubs are incredibly good ways of making a small fortune out of a large one.

The original Smiths in Crosspool was excellent when Mr Smith was firmly at the helm (this is going back 10 years).
But sadly I think he got carried away with himself and thought he was Gordon Ramsay.
Too many re-inventions of the place (Thyme , then Artisan & catch , then Artisan and canteen), him not actually cooking anymore plus all his other business ventures have not done him any favours.
He would have been better just sticking with the original Smiths and making it the best restaurant in Sheffield.

But then he has probably made more money the other way and hasnt had to work the late nights in the restaurant...

Ok - maybe it's just me that is desperate for a decent eatery in town, rather than on the outskirts. And by decent - I don't mean it has to be Michelin Star - just decent.

Leeds for example, has Anthony's and Fourth Floor at Harvey Nicks - both very nice. What do we have, on that level, you know somewhere you can take your mum out for a treat after shopping?

Don't forget Brasserie 44... my partner and I both swore we'd leave the other for their mashed potatoes, they are THAT good.

To be honest, I haven't heard of anywhere in the town center that's similar to those places. Leopold Hotel maybe? We've never eaten there, but it always looks pretty upscale.

Don't forget Brasserie 44... my partner and I both swore we'd leave the other for their mashed potatoes, they are THAT good.

To be honest, I haven't heard of anywhere in the town center that's similar to those places. Leopold Hotel maybe? We've never eaten there, but it always looks pretty upscale.

There you go. I don't even know of all the decent places in Leeds city centre - there are so many!

I think there are a couple of good non-chain places in Sheffield city centre - the Wig and Pen can be a bit hit-and-miss but was very good when I was there 2 weeks ago, the new London Club is excellent, so is the Italian place in the Winter Gardens whose name I've forgotten. For me the best restaurant in Sheffield by a long shot is The Milestone and for me I think it's great that it's not in town or it would be even harder to get a table than it is now! I've been to The Old Vicarage once and thought it was OK but didn't really get what all the fuss is about. I also don't like places where I feel intimidated (and it's not as if I don't often go to nice places!) So for me, while I'd obviously welcome anything new and interesting to the Sheffield scene, I can't say I think having a Michelin-starred restaurant in town would change my life...

I think there are a couple of good non-chain places in Sheffield city centre - the Wig and Pen can be a bit hit-and-miss but was very good when I was there 2 weeks ago, the new London Club is excellent, so is the Italian place in the Winter Gardens whose name I've forgotten. For me the best restaurant in Sheffield by a long shot is The Milestone and for me I think it's great that it's not in town or it would be even harder to get a table than it is now! I've been to The Old Vicarage once and thought it was OK but didn't really get what all the fuss is about. I also don't like places where I feel intimidated (and it's not as if I don't often go to nice places!) So for me, while I'd obviously welcome anything new and interesting to the Sheffield scene, I can't say I think having a Michelin-starred restaurant in town would change my life...

I must give this London Club a go.

the greenhead in chapeltown is a michelin star restaurant.

I would just love to find a nice family run restaurant which isn't a franchise or a pub with food. I don't think there is a single outstanding restaurant in sheffield they are all chain run selling frozen processed rubbish or are just boozers selling "food"

the greenhead in chapeltown is a michelin star restaurant.

No it isn't.