Realistically is Wednesday good enough for the championship and what are the chances of them staying up at best i think they will go down and at worst go into receivership and go down

You need at least point v cardiff i think......my team are champions and going for over 100 points :)

looks like club 9 have done the deal

We are a long way from receivership Willy but the prospects of League One football next season seem all the more likely to come to fruition. The truth is the players we have now aren't of a standard capable of remaining in the Championship. Save for the odd flashes of genius, most of the 'key' players simply can't deliver when it matters. Marcus Tudgay, Etienne Esajas and Jermaine Johnson are all guilty of being able to pull one rabbit out of the hat but, on the whole, they're not Championship-quality footballers.

Couple that with the fact that we have a failed gamble in Darren Purse "commanding" our back line, a hapless fool in Lewis Buxton and an overrated but underdeveloped Tommy Spurr in defence and you begin to see why we're struggling.

It will be good to see how Irvine manages us over the summer - he's yet another manager who has relied on players brought in by their predecessor. Wednesday seem to always be guilty of sacking managers once they've gone stale and at too late a date for their successor to bring new players in.

Personally, it matters not to me. I can take the odd berating from the red-and-whiters if it means not being walked-over every week no matter the opposition.

Realistically is Wednesday good enough for the championship and what are the chances of them staying up at best i think they will go down and at worst go into receivership and go down

Administration will never happen because the creditors, the main one being the bank will not demand repayment. They stand to lose too much. The former chairman can't do anything really about the money owed to him as he now owns another club. The club only has to find £500k per year to service the bank debt.

Relegation may well happen, if it does I'm sure we'll rebuild the squad, off load the rubbish we have at the moment and return much the same as the last time it happened.

£27 million of debt is not far from receivership

Moved to the football area. Please start your threads in the appropriate area in future.

£27 million of debt is not far from receivership

it depends entirely on the relationship between the creditord (co-op bank) and swfc

that relationship is solid

it depends entirely on the relationship between the creditord (co-op bank) and swfc

that relationship is solid

It remains to be seen, but are the co-op not just washing their hands of the debt, coming to an arrangement with club9, and after a number of enstallments cutting the ties with the club?

We are a long way from receivership Willy but the prospects of League One football next season seem all the more likely to come to fruition. The truth is the players we have now aren't of a standard capable of remaining in the Championship. Save for the odd flashes of genius, most of the 'key' players simply can't deliver when it matters. Marcus Tudgay, Etienne Esajas and Jermaine Johnson are all guilty of being able to pull one rabbit out of the hat but, on the whole, they're not Championship-quality footballers.

Couple that with the fact that we have a failed gamble in Darren Purse "commanding" our back line, a hapless fool in Lewis Buxton and an overrated but underdeveloped Tommy Spurr in defence and you begin to see why we're struggling.

It will be good to see how Irvine manages us over the summer - he's yet another manager who has relied on players brought in by their predecessor. Wednesday seem to always be guilty of sacking managers once they've gone stale and at too late a date for their successor to bring new players in.

Personally, it matters not to me. I can take the odd berating from the red-and-whiters if it means not being walked-over every week no matter the opposition.

As a part timer these days I don't like to comment on individual performances that I haven't seen. However, for the three matches that I have attended, plus the televised games that I have viewed, you appear to be spot on.

No relationships are solid especially when there’s £27 million concerned

No relationships are solid especially when there’s £27 million concerned i think the co-op bank would much prefer to recieve payments on interest of £26m than us go into admin and get nowt..infact i may be wrong but i believe its the creditors who actually put a club in admin not the club itself(not 100% sure on that one)

Administration will never happen because the creditors, the main one being the bank will not demand repayment. They stand to lose too much. The former chairman can't do anything really about the money owed to him as he now owns another club. The club only has to find £500k per year to service the bank debt.

Relegation may well happen, if it does I'm sure we'll rebuild the squad, off load the rubbish we have at the moment and return much the same as the last time it happened.

You say offload the rubbish... if they are that rubbish, then who's going to take those still contracted off your hands? You'll still need a decent size squad, so may need to keep some of the mediocre players like Spurr, Clarke, Potter etc just for quantity?

£27 million of debt is not far from receivership

Please clarify the figure that you consider to be safe from receivership. Every club has some level of debt, ours is not that great, and most probably almost written off by the bank. I don't know of the inner workings of SWFC, and neither do you.

It remains to be seen, but are the co-op not just washing their hands of the debt, coming to an arrangement with club9, and after a number of enstallments cutting the ties with the club?

either way i think we're a million miles away from admin. admin comes along when you cant make your repayments which we can/are

the co-op arent going to turn round tomorrow and say "right thats it we want £27m today or your going bust"

I personaly think the move to club 9 is very nearly brilliant but 12 months too late these guys really know a thing about sports management

No relationships are solid especially when there’s £27 million concerned

It's a workable operating debt. You cannot be so simplistic to say that a club is close to administration because it's running a debt. They are only numbers and don't give any indication of a club being "close to administration". Manchester United is running a debt in excess of £700 million - are they close to administration? Of course not. Stop being so simplistic about it all.

Wednesday fans need to look at the flipside of the coin. The prospect of investment isn't with a view to ushering out the receivers, it's about looking at what the money could do to bring the club forward. Money isn't needed to rescue us, it's needed to develop us.

I personaly think the move to club 9 is very nearly brilliant but 12 months too late these guys really know a thing about sports management



be careful with what you wish for with foreign owners. Look at Man United and Liverpool for example, even Porstmouth. Foreign investors have no affiliation with the english game and are only out to gain as much money as possible, its not because they love the club

Down in 70,80,90,2000....:suspect:

And 2010............................

Obviously these guys are in it for the money so is everyone else but they will be investing it is of no interest to them Wednesday doing sh*t if they do well then payday is doing well

Administration will never happen because the creditors, the main one being the bank will not demand repayment. They stand to lose too much. The former chairman can't do anything really about the money owed to him as he now owns another club. The club only has to find £500k per year to service the bank debt.

Relegation may well happen, if it does I'm sure we'll rebuild the squad, off load the rubbish we have at the moment and return much the same as the last time it happened.

Even if you were relegated it could well be a blessing in disguise, because it would give Irvine the chance to clear out the dross and get his own players in, money permitting. If you did happen to do well next season then attendances would reflect success and you could possibly build from there

they are werethey belong. keep the pigs away from the lane

Down in 70,80,90,2000....:suspect:

Wednesday were relegated in the 1969/70, 1989/90 and 1999/2000 seasons but were promoted in 1979/80. I thought a Wednesdayite would have pulled you up on this Rocklegend and not a Blade.

Wednesday were relegated in the 1969/70, 1989/90 and 1999/2000 seasons but were promoted in 1979/80. I thought a Wednesdayite would have pulled you up on this Rocklegend and not a Blade.

Don't blame me i wernt born till 80 lol :hihi:

Im kind of resigned to the fact that were looking like facing the drop.Back to the relegation dates and i started watching the owls around 69-70.The mid 70s were really dark days until big jack came in in 77.Things go in cycles and the owls are without doubt on a downward curve on the pitch.Im optimistic regarding the off the pitch developments but all will be revealed in the near future.Keep the faith lads:):)

yep where going down all right :( :(

were all going on a league 1 tour.....................

I remember discussing this with someone earlier in the season, but we didn't actually expect to be continuing the trend at the time. In fact I can add more

1890 FA Cup Finalists
1900 Promoted
1920 Relegated
1930 League Champions
1950 Promoted
1970 Relegated
1980 Promoted
1990 Relegated
2000 Relegated
2010 Relegated

Still, good news about 1910 and 1960 not fitting the pattern of something
significant happening, we got promoted a year early in 1959.

were all going on a league 1 tour.....................

....again.

At least we'll be able to get some away grounds in that we missed last time. I've never been to Rochdale, Exeter, Yeovil, Leyton Orient, and....god this is quite depressing actually.

were all going on a league 1 tour.....................

haha we we're singing that loads over the weekend lol!