Recent news article about a woman paying for her daughter downloading music from the internet to listen to. She agreed to pay x thousands of pounds to the industry rather than face prosecution. MAde me wonder ....

I used to tape songs I liked from the radio. Guess where all my tapes are now? Big bonfire in the back garden.

I have videotaped programs off the television, especially quiz programs where family members have participated. Guess what happened to them?

Who has never copied a song onto tape to listen to at a later date? Be honest. Or a film off television to watch at a later date?

Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone ...

Dragon

in America, no?

No - this was in Sheffield.

I thought it odd as well but there you go.

Dragon

The only case I've heard of like this is that of Emily Price.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/4166784.stm

She downloaded 1400 songs and was sharing them with other users of a peer to peer network. In other words, to use the analogy of home taping off the radio, she was taping stuff and then copying the tapes to give to other people. And the quality was excellent - up to CD standard as is usual with downloaded music.

Not exactly the same as recording stuff from the radio for your own pleasure.

Joe

In America there have been some well reported cases which seem to target minors, in one case a 12year old downloading nursery rhymes.
It seems to get the best reaction from the media to prosecute children and i think this may be the strategy.
Music piracy is difficult to police, so a few 'child prosecuted' headlines will put some off, perhaps.

Originally posted by Dragon
No - this was in Sheffield.

I thought it odd as well but there you go.

Dragon

have u got a link to the story?

Nope - I stole it from that free mag you get when you travel on the tram. A friend brought it into the shop and I was gobsmacked.

I will try to remember to bring it home tomorrow and quote from it if that helps?

Dragon

can i just add another angle, iwas always under the impression that if you had an original copy of a music cd your were able to make a copy of it.as far as recording stuff off the tv we do pay for the right through our tv licensce especially the bbc,its our licencse fee that funds these programs so in effect we all have a share in the program and i suppose a share in the copyright in a roundabout way,dont see why they should be that bothered anyway,its mostly repeats.

Not sure but I think copyright states that no reproduction without permission from the company or owner is allowed, and that would cover a whole range of things from copying passages out of books (for which a person usually states sources and such at the back of the book), to music, to video, to computer software and so on.

It is not permissable for you to copy music you already have without permission from the people who made the CD or record or whatever - or the company. If you have a CD that is faulty then you should contact the company for a replacement - which is a lot of hassle.

The tv licence is for the reception, not the copying, of transmissions. No-one but the creator of a piece owns the copyright. Sometimes rights are sold to a vender for reproduction, but the copyright remains firmly in the hands of the person who created it, or - if they so agreed, the company. You do not pay copyright. You pay for the pleasure of listening to whatever is on the CD. In fact - it is probably true that all you actually pay for is the CD itself and have no legal rights to what is on it.

Course - this is not backed up by fact. I will leave you to do some research on copyright law.

Just as an aside - the copyright for any material you put up on this site remains yours, and on request you can ask that it be removed. Failure to remove your articles can be viewed as copyright theft. Hmmmmmm! Murky waters.

Dragon

Originally posted by Dragon


Just as an aside - the copyright for any material you put up on this site remains yours, and on request you can ask that it be removed. Failure to remove your articles can be viewed as copyright theft. Hmmmmmm! Murky waters.

Dragon

what about my content being removed without my consent :P

you pay for a license to a single copy of the work. (And the medium which it comes on, ie the cd.) If you damage it they should provide a replacement at the cost price (ie a few pence plus postage for a cd).

We have no 'fair use' laws in this country, in other countries the right to take a backup or to transfer to an alternative medium (ie make a tape to play in the car from a cd) is specified. In the UK it's never gone to court and so never been defined.

Of course no one will ever be prosecuted for recording the simpsons to watch it later, or making a backup of a dvd. Prosecutions at the moment (mainly in the states) are all to do with downloading many songs, and more importantly uploading them!

You cannot do anything about that meltheball. Sorry. The site owners cannot get into trouble for not putting something of yours on site, nor for removing it.

But think how much fun it could be to remove every post you have made, especially if you have been a member for a few years.

Actually I am not sure about general threads, but according to what I have read - as soon as you make a thread - the copyright for that thread is yours, and remains yours until there is written and signed agreement that it is otherwise. Ticking a box while signing up to say you have read the terms and conditions does not count as a contract.

I have just had some fun trying to get items of mine removed from another site. Cannot say too much as the case is currently being looked into. However, it seems like not only the site owners but the person who owns the server may also be responsible for breach of copyright law.

Interesting stuff.

Dragon

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But think how much fun it could be to remove every post you have made, especially if you have been a member for a few years.



just dont get no ideas mods im watching :P