With all the money wasted on community this and that and the income what we could have pulled in with a proper shirt sponsorship, surely we could have at least put more of a fight up with a couple of more loan signings (defo a striker).
We just seem to be going through the motions and it seems theres no fight left in em.
Never known Strafford so quiet now it's got to the nitty gritty, surely this wasn't in his mind when he took the reigns :confused:
Your business plan in my opinion has failed us Lee :nono::nono::nono:

Well Corker it just further confirms my view that Chairman know nothing about football and Mr Strafford probably knows the least.

Correct management from the top is vital to the success of any organisation, Deming and Juran say the biggest failings of management is that they don't know the processes of what the company does.

Looking at Deming's "Deadly Diseases" of management failure; there are some startling comparisons with how Wednesday has been run over the last decade.

WAS GETTING RELEGATED PART OF STRAFFORDS MASTER PLAN ?

Well if it was, its the only plan he has been successful with!

WAS GETTING RELEGATED PART OF STRAFFORDS MASTER PLAN ?

Well if it was, its the only plan he has been successful with!

I find it almost laugable that hes been asking for fans to purchase there season tickets before we even know what league were in, respect to those who have like but it seems a bit oblong to me, business plan or not id still like to know if i was paying for West Ham at home or Wycombe.
Im one of thousands that chooses to pay on the day so i suppose it doesnt affect me anyway.

Corker with due respect to the genuine supporters, the man is a muppet. His forcasts and rants have not relected well on the higher management of the club.

I have always wondered who put him in charge, the bank ? another potential backer ? it remains to be seen but i just can not reason with his appointment. Another question why has no one made an approach to take over the reigns? not a backer just a chairman with realistic targets and forcasts, a person with PR skills ,towards the fan and business sponcers.

I find it almost laugable that hes been asking for fans to purchase there season tickets before we even know what league were in, respect to those who have like but it seems a bit oblong to me, business plan or not id still like to know if i was paying for West Ham at home or Wycombe.
Im one of thousands that chooses to pay on the day so i suppose it doesnt affect me anyway.

Welcome back Corky mi owd suasage :thumbsup:

Well I am not chairman of swfc but think I could safely tell you after yesterdays results it wont be West Sham at home, more likely Hull and you lot can give a rousing reception to a certain Mr Flaws IF you stay up.

P.S. Portsmouth down as well :)

Welcome back Corky mi owd suasage :thumbsup:

Well I am not chairman of swfc but think I could safely tell you after yesterdays results it wont be West Sham at home, more likely Hull and you lot can give a rousing reception to a certain Mr Flaws IF you stay up.

P.S. Portsmouth down as well :)

(Cheers CB), If we stay up, its one hell of a fortnight to come that is a cert.

With all the money wasted on community this and that and the income what we could have pulled in with a proper shirt sponsorship, surely we could have at least put more of a fight up with a couple of more loan signings (defo a striker).
We just seem to be going through the motions and it seems theres no fight left in em.
Never known Strafford so quiet now it's got to the nitty gritty, surely this wasn't in his mind when he took the reigns :confused:
Your business plan in my opinion has failed us Lee :nono::nono::nono:

Nice to see you back flower. :thumbsup:

Since when did a chairman have any effect on SWFC's fortunes? We played the best football that I have seen at Hillsborough with a crap chairman called Dave Richards, not because of him, but despite of him. Strafford is just a fan, nowt else, we might as well put you in charge, you would have all the passion in the world, without the funds to back it up.

Keep the faith, we could still kick start a SWFC party, whilst throwing cold water on the celebrations most blades are longing for, bless them. :hihi:

Keep the faith, we could still kick start a SWFC party, whilst throwing cold water on the celebrations most blades are longing for, bless them. :hihi:

:hihi:Are you Alty in disguise?:hihi:

Keep the faith, we could still kick start a SWFC party, whilst throwing cold water on the celebrations most blades are longing for, bless them. :hihi:

Or Blades could be throwing a Jelly and Ice cream party ...
You have your championship lives to play for, we just have a chance at a Sheffield double AGAIN --- YAWN

i cant se it being part of his masterplan seems we should be in prem in 2 more seasons:hihi: unfortunately after last season he didn't have any reason to think we would struggle, we were nowhere near the relegation zone all last season. if he could of seen in advance how it was going to go maybe he would of revised a couple of things but ohwell. if we go down there will be a few extra grounds to add to the list:D

i cant se it being part of his masterplan seems we should be in prem in 2 more seasons:hihi: unfortunately after last season he didn't have any reason to think we would struggle, we were nowhere near the relegation zone all last season. if he could of seen in advance how it was going to go maybe he would of revised a couple of things but ohwell. if we go down there will be a few extra grounds to add to the list:D

:hihi: thats exactly what i was thinking, i don't know if i want Millwall to go up or not yet lol
As long as were in the same league i will be happy :)

:hihi: thats exactly what i was thinking, i don't know if i want Millwall to go up or not yet lol
As long as were in the same league i will be happy :)

i'd love them to go up at the expense of leeds:hihi: plenty of other london clubs down there, millwall might be abit hardcore for a newbie like me:hihi:

i'd love them to go up at the expense of leeds:hihi: plenty of other london clubs down there, millwall might be abit hardcore for a newbie like me:hihi:

Oh yes defo ive been following them with interest, they have done wonders, Leeds were something like 25 points in front of the Wall at Christmas.:hihi:

Obviously it wasn't part of his plan.

However, we should be asking: Will Mr Strafford take the blame if or when we get relegated?

Obviously it wasn't part of his plan.

However, we should be asking: Will Mr Strafford take the blame if or when we get relegated?

If it wasn't part of his plan, why didn't he take more steps to save us from the drop when the rot set in over xmas.
Instead of being more bothered with facebook postings and raising the fan's hopes?

Or Blades could be throwing a Jelly and Ice cream party ...
You have your championship lives to play for, we just have a chance at a Sheffield double AGAIN --- YAWN

Yes, the opportunity of beating the third from bottom club twice, that's what I call ambition. :hihi:

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.

Totally agree with you, he's doing a cracking job.
I wouldn't change a thing.
Keep up the good work Strafford.

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.

i dont see what else he could do as he has no money

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.

i also don't understand what people want from him but everone has their opinions, not going to have a go at someone for it. he is doing what he can with no money, if this investment with sports whatever happnes then at least that will be something less he can be criticised for. he isn't perfect but the club is better off with him

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.

A cracking job????????????
Incase you have been on holiday for the last 9 months then I'm sure you have seen god knows how many thousands of pounds given away to the children's hospital when we could have done with the money ourselves.
No offence to him for that but im sure theres plenty of other clubs which could have done what we did for the sch seeing as it serves most of Britain, i don't buy a lot his beliefs to be honest, ok Allen did this and Allen did that but i doubt he would have let us fans suffer on the stands like we have players wise.
QPR away was all about the day more than the team, they were not fit to wear the shirt !!!!!!!
And in all honesty are simply not good enough, if he hasn't got a penny to put in as a loan whats it worth him being here?
Anyone could do the job hes doing especially if hes not even helping financially, this business plan of his is his idea, how much can you trust a bloke who seems to have earnt his money and retired off with his family, his words not mine.

A cracking job????????????
Incase you have been on holiday for the last 9 months then I'm sure you have seen god knows how many thousands of pounds given away to the children's hospital when we could have done with the money ourselves.
No offence to him for that but im sure theres plenty of other clubs which could have done what we did for the sch seeing as it serves most of Britain, i don't buy a lot his beliefs to be honest, ok Allen did this and Allen did that but i doubt he would have let us fans suffer on the stands like we have players wise.
QPR away was all about the day more than the team, they were not fit to wear the shirt !!!!!!!
And in all honesty are simply not good enough, if he hasn't got a penny to put in as a loan whats it worth him being here?
Anyone could do the job hes doing especially if hes not even helping financially, this business plan of his is his idea, how much can you trust a bloke who seems to have earnt his money and retired off with his family, his words not mine.


One small question if i may ........... how many shirts were sold this last year compared to the previous 5 years and what was the increase in revenue . Also what is the value of the shirt sponsorship ?

If anyone could have done the job he is doing why havnt they ?

16 hours a day at Hillsborough doesnt seem like retirement to me but hey ....

Please give me the answers to the shirt sponsorship question because you have been banging at that argument for long enough now

No business nouce (he was in the right place at the right time at Plusnet), no money to invest in the team and no business contacts to call upon.

Far play to Strappon, he's bored of doing nowt with his days but he's offer the club nothing the like of David82 or Corker couldn't have done. He's a fan, he's passionate about the club but has he helped in any way, shape or form.......answers on a postcard.

One small question if i may ........... how many shirts were sold this last year compared to the previous 5 years and what was the increase in revenue . Also what is the value of the shirt sponsorship ?

If anyone could have done the job he is doing why havnt they ?

16 hours a day at Hillsborough doesnt seem like retirement to me but hey ....

Please give me the answers to the shirt sponsorship question because you have been banging at that argument for long enough now

In defense of Corky's post [not that he needs it], when the sponsership deal was announced giving it to the childrens hospital, it was stated that a lucrative financial deal had been turned down in favour of giving it away.
Personally I didn't believe that statement.

No business nouce (he was in the right place at the right time at Plusnet), no money to invest in the team and no business contacts to call upon.

Far play to Strappon, he's bored of doing nowt with his days but he's offer the club nothing the like of David82 or Corker couldn't have done. He's a fan, he's passionate about the club but has he helped in any way, shape or form.......answers on a postcard.

The most bizarre and ill informed post ive ever read ... where has the right place right time thing come from ?

In defense of Corky's post [not that he needs it], when the sponsership deal was announced giving it to the childrens hospital, it was stated that a lucrative financial deal had been turned down in favour of giving it away.
Personally I didn't believe that statement.

Bearing in mind the likes of WBA and West Ham struggled to secure Shirt Sponsors this season i think it's fair to presume no 'lucrative shirt deal' was turned down, as many of us said at the time it was a smoke screen and one this made on sense at all....!!

The deal with the Childrens Hospital was a PR stunt and a get out clause for Strafford who had clearly failed in his first meaningful act as stand in Chairman.

In defense of Corky's post [not that he needs it], when the sponsership deal was announced giving it to the childrens hospital, it was stated that a lucrative financial deal had been turned down in favour of giving it away.
Personally I didn't believe that statement.


It is true we did turn down a deal but gambled on more revnue from shirt sales which indeed happened ......... in fact no championship club makes alot from shirt sponsorship ....... If you want to be cynical it was actually far from the heart warming deal we made out but simply a way to maximise sales and profit from the shirt product

The most bizarre and ill informed post ive ever read ... where has the right place right time thing come from ?

He was a right hand man at Plusnet, i've good mates with kids who worked for him. The main man (his mate got about £50m out of the deal), Stafford was paid £3m for his minority share in the company!

It is true we did turn down a deal but gambled on more revnue from shirt sales which indeed happened ......... in fact no championship club makes alot from shirt sponsorship ....... If you want to be cynical it was actually far from the heart warming deal we made out but simply a way to maximise sales and profit from the shirt product

You seem well informed dude!!! You gonna start having a go at the Fudders in a bit :)

As for making no money out of a shirt sponsor the £250k the Blades get every year from the MTA isn't to be sniffed at!!

He was a right hand man at Plusnet, i've good mates with kids who worked for him. The main man (his mate got about £50m out of the deal), Stafford was paid £3m for his minority share in the company!



oh good grief .......... ive got mates who .............. not even worth my time .........

oh good grief .......... ive got mates who .............. not even worth my time .........

Poor little lad doesn't like to hear the truth, thats how it happened my friend, why would i make these things up? I'm interested to hear your 'well informed' opinion of the situation!!

One small question if i may ........... how many shirts were sold this last year compared to the previous 5 years and what was the increase in revenue . Also what is the value of the shirt sponsorship ?

If anyone could have done the job he is doing why havnt they ?

16 hours a day at Hillsborough doesnt seem like retirement to me but hey ....

Please give me the answers to the shirt sponsorship question because you have been banging at that argument for long enough now

How much have we made out of selling these extra shirts (with a little bear on them), compared to getting a "proper" shirt sponsor?

It is true we did turn down a deal but gambled on more revnue from shirt sales which indeed happened ......... in fact no championship club makes alot from shirt sponsorship ....... If you want to be cynical it was actually far from the heart warming deal we made out but simply a way to maximise sales and profit from the shirt product

So you think giving a pound a shirt to the childrens hospital was financially better than taking a lucrative amount up front because they sold more shirts that way?

How many extra shirts have been sold to cover this?

That lucrative deal did not exist, IMO.

I still can't believe some Wednesdayites....blaming Strafford still. He's our best option until someone else with the same heart and who has money comes a long. Until then, we have a cracking bloke in charge. He's been here two seconds. The only thing I think he could have done better, is sack Laws earlier.


we keep hearing he's working for nowt....but has my grandad used to say a mug does owt for nowt....
ok he's made football affordable again...but still we cant top 20k....he keeps slagging the fans...not a bright idea....
scores some great pr own goals...like getting his goons to take the collecting buckets off those kids who'd just walked 14 miles that morning because he'd not sanctioned it....
and couldn't seem to get us out the ground fast enough..before they bring on the legend chris waddle...nice one
then when we line up in tunnel at boro...he comes to have a look how best to treat fans...and we dont support the boro...they let us keep our buckets...**** off lee bring back bert mcgee...proper chairman

He was a right hand man at Plusnet, i've good mates with kids who worked for him. The main man (his mate got about £50m out of the deal), Stafford was paid £3m for his minority share in the company!


i was told his dad was a successful business man...so it must run in the family.....

i was told his dad was a successful business man...so it must run in the family.....

No his dads in the building trade and sound as a pound, he used to pay for all the beers at the staff parties cos Strappedforcash was too tight to put his hand in his pocket!!

No his dads in the building trade and sound as a pound, he used to pay for all the beers at the staff parties cos Strappedforcash was too tight to put his hand in his pocket!!


yeah but is he the boss...

yeah but is he the boss...

Yes, its his own company!!