Apparently there is a new tablet out which can be taken to stave off the need for sleep for up to 44 hours. It is now available via the internet at 30 tablets for approx £87 though has been used by the armed forces for some time now.

It allegedly has no side effects and is freely available.

Would you take it? You could party all weekend and still go into work on Monday all bright eyed and bushy tailed. You could catch up on all the jobs you've been meaning to do during the night and do your normal thing in the day.

Or do you think that it's only natural to sleep and that the body needs its restorative sleep.:thumbsup:

Uuggh.
My bed is one of my favourite places to be. And I can't believe there can really be no side effects with this drug. You must have REM sleep, surely, in order to behave like a sane and balanced person. (tho maybe that;s not so necessary in the army)

We watched part of that 'Shattered' programme last night, and I felt very sorry for them, and quite superior at not doing anything so miserable.
And then I woke up at 3am and spent the rest of the night staring at the ceiling. Typical.:rolleyes:

Cosy:P

what? so they are making a sort of legal form of Speed or Ecstacy?

whats the tablet? Modafinil?


Modafinil Side Effects

Modafinil may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away: headache, upset stomach, nervousness, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep, dizziness, depression, diarrhea, runny nose, dry mouth, loss of appetite, vomiting, neck pain or stiffness, confusion or forgetfulness. Some side effects can be serious. The following symptoms are uncommon, but if you experience any of them, call your doctor immediately: chest pain, fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat, shortness of breath, rash or hives, fever, sore throat, chills, and other signs of infection. Modafinil may cause other side effects. Call your doctor if you have any unusual problems while taking this medication.


Prudence should be exercised in drastically curtailing one's sleep. Prolonged sleeplessness weakens immune function. Animals tortured in sleep-deprivation experiments eventually die from massive bacterial infections of the blood.

Modafinil, if it is that, is in use by the military, because it is a CNS stimulant that acts in an entirely different way to amphetamine and phenethylamine stimulants - reducing the risk of paranoid trigger happy A10 Pilots blowing crap out of clearly marked UK ground vehicles. (for example)

:rolleyes: That's the same list of side effects as on every box of prescription medicine you get.

I wonder if hospitals have considered giving it to junior doctors, instead of giving them sensible working hours. What a scary idea.

I'm still all for the comforts of bed.

Cosy:P

Originally posted by cosywolf
:rolleyes: That's the same list of side effects as on every box of prescription medicine you get.

I wonder if hospitals have considered giving it to junior doctors, instead of giving them sensible working hours. What a scary idea.

I'm still all for the comforts of bed.

Cosy:P

Cosy, Mo said it allegedly does not have side effect, I merely posted that (in the case that is is Modafinil we are talking about) list of side effects from the Modafinil web site to demonstrate that it does indeed have side effects. (so less of the rolleyes please :) )

Side effects of drugs are as varied as the people who take them - hence most Prescription drugs carry similar warnings.

There is no such thing as a drug without side effects.

Agreed, Phan. No such things as drugs without side effects.

I wasn't rolling eyes at you :P it's just that the side effects lists make me laugh cos as soon as some people start reading them, they think 'ooh, is my mouth a bit dry...I felt dizzy for a moment when I got up this morning...oh my god, my heart just jumped...I'm gonna die from this medication'. Lol.

Cosy:P

well i agree with cosy's first post about people being sane and normal people

but if (as the example goes in Mo's) you do want to catch up on work, you could stay up and finish it and maybe catch you with your sleep on the friday night or saturday. (is that possible??)

as for the connection with speed i guess yes, it is.

It's unlikely to be Amphetamine(speed) related if the side effects are reputedly neglible.

Ummm, no thanks. No need to. I like sleep.

Phan it is modafinil. Apparently used as a prescription drug for narcoleptics (people who can't stop falling alseep, if like me you didn't know).

So...what happens when the 44 hours is up?

I thought it might be Modafinil from your desription Mo. Glad I was right.

It's an interesting drug from a non-medical perspective, and if you really do need to go without sleep, you would be far better using this than something like Pro-Plus as caffeine is a much more toxic substance, or street drugs, likely as they are to be impure and cut with fillers.

One tablet daily is the dose for narcolepsy, but the profile of action is completely different to traditional dopamine circuit CNS stimulants (e.g ritalin) so I have no idea how much you would need to keep sleep at bay for two days.

But, as has been pointed out before, not sleeping is generally a bad thing to be doing on a regular basis.

hmmm.

i don't understand why anyone would want to take them - if you wanted to stay awake and/or party - drink some coffee or neck some (illegal) drugs... certainly cheaper than Modafinil and probably more fun, too.

:loopy: :confused:

If people are worried about side effects, then surely they shouldn't be considering going without sleep for two days?

Modafinil starts popping up as a nootropic here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6558871.stm

I've tried Modafinil, stayed awake for about 30 hours with no come down. I'm not a very good test for this sort of stuff though as i can stay awake for 30 hours without any stimulants. A friend tried it at the same time and he now has it prescribed for a condition he has. made a big change to his life.

i love my bed too much, besides, there really wouldnt be anything to do in the middle of the night, id get bored

Apparently there is a new tablet out which can be taken to stave off the need for sleep for up to 44 hours. It is now available via the internet at 30 tablets for approx £87 though has been used by the armed forces for some time now.

It allegedly has no side effects and is freely available.

Would you take it? You could party all weekend and still go into work on Monday all bright eyed and bushy tailed. You could catch up on all the jobs you've been meaning to do during the night and do your normal thing in the day.

Or do you think that it's only natural to sleep and that the body needs its restorative sleep.:thumbsup:
Just the perfect thing for watching a typically dire England match or trekking down to Millmoor.

I've tried it before, it's interesting because it does make it effortless to stay awake for quite a while and you don't get much in the way of a speedy feeling or the dreadful comedown that speed gives you. I also found that it seemed to help my concentration in a similar way to ritalin.

Read an interesting article in New scientist about this. The interesting thig is not just that you stay awake. If you normally stayed up 48hrs you'd need to catch up on your sleep, with this drug you can grab your usual 8 hrs and you back to normal. Also if your on it but want to sleep you can, its not like anphetamines that keep you staring at a ceiling. Sound interesting and the medical reports say there is little if any side effects to them. In fact they may have some beneficial effects above that of keeping you awake.

Are the days coming where you can wake and sleep at will. Current sleeping tablets don't mimic normal sleep so are they on the way. If they are then its up 72 hour or sleep 24 at will. I wonder how this will effect society?

Apparently there is a new tablet out which can be taken to stave off the need for sleep for up to 44 hours. It is now available via the internet at 30 tablets for approx £87 though has been used by the armed forces for some time now.

It allegedly has no side effects and is freely available.

Would you take it? You could party all weekend and still go into work on Monday all bright eyed and bushy tailed. You could catch up on all the jobs you've been meaning to do during the night and do your normal thing in the day.

Or do you think that it's only natural to sleep and that the body needs its restorative sleep.:thumbsup:

there's also a drug called speed / base that does that for you for 1/4 of the price.. and keeps you up longer hehe but 3 days no sleep = no very nice :-( :mad:

there's also a drug called speed / base that does that for you for 1/4 of the price.. and keeps you up longer hehe but 3 days no sleep = no very nice :-( :mad:

Speed is an Amphetamine and works in a totally different way. The difference with Modafinil is that you don't have the "wired" bit you just stay awake and alert.