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Viper17
03-01-2004, 11:50
:loopy: Fancy calling a forum page "Moving to Sheffield" what a dump, a City that can boast a total lack of investment,in any area of industry,stagnant property prices(compared to other Cities),Lack of work,High un-employment,poor business opportunities,...cant wait to move in 8 weeks.

Moon Maiden
03-01-2004, 11:52
According to your sig there you live in the Manor?? What else do you expect?? :loopy:

Moon Maiden

Viper17
03-01-2004, 12:20
Well, Well, Well ...... if anyone lived where you do I would keep my mouth shut .dont know how you have the cheek to criticise other districts.:confused: :blush: :nono:

Tony
03-01-2004, 12:25
Ouch Moon - that was below the belt :)

But Viper17, can't you see the change that is happening on Manor these last few years? Don't you think that it is much better than it was? Aren't the new homes any good?Isn't the tram useful? Don't you go to Meadowhall? Aren't there any new jobs in all those new firms in Attterclife?

That's just the stuff on your doorstep too!

Moon Maiden
03-01-2004, 12:27
Originally posted by Tony
Ouch Moon - that was below the belt :)

So I guess you are telling me that Viper expected to be greeted with love and fluffy messages then??? :confused: :)

If you think Sheffield is a dump you should try living in Barnsley, now that will suck the life out of you.

Moon

Tony
03-01-2004, 13:22
He was a bit overly vitrioic wasn't he?

Geoff
07-01-2004, 17:49
Moved to General Sheffield Chat.

total lack of investment
Lol, have you not read a paper in the last 2 years or walked down West Street lately?! I'm impressed they could build both West Point, West One, Royal Plaza and all the other new buildings with no investment - that's a mightly good trick.

:loopy:

DaBouncer
07-01-2004, 19:06
I thought you people would see him for what he is... a troll.

Just ignore... or close the thread... which would p*** him off more.

If you dont like the place Viper f*** off; we dont want you here anyway!:thumbsup:

Sidla
07-01-2004, 19:38
Sheffield's a great place. I don't understand how anyone could say there's no investment. The city centre hasn't stopped changing since I arrived here.

Sam Miguel
07-01-2004, 20:24
How dare anyone insinuate that my home city is a dump.

Built in a natural bowl and surrounded on all sides by beautiful rolling hills, this must surely be one of the finest cities in the world, except for several other dozen.

When I first came here, straight after my birth, I knew that one day I would find myself residing in the Sheffield 2 area. It was more than just a dream.

It was a long struggle, but I finally made it.

Fudbeer
07-01-2004, 20:47
Stagnant property prices?

Have you seen the prices in Ecclesall,Dore and Fullwood recently?

Infact many other areas such as Walkley and Hillsborough seem to me to have increased considerably over the last few years.

With the Peak District on your doorstep Meadowhall supertram and great sporting facilities I think Sheffield is very much on the up.

I would have to say though having recently visited Leeds I think their city centre is miles ahead of ours.

Geoff
08-01-2004, 01:01
Originally posted by DaBouncer
Just ignore... or close the thread... which would p*** him off more.
Awww, but can't we take the fun out of his comments a bit more first?

Fletch
08-01-2004, 06:13
Yes i do think Sheffield is a dump

Red 2
08-01-2004, 09:09
I do like Sheffield a lot but i'd like to see it change in some ways..

There are large ethnic communities in Sheffield.., Although i know there are different resteraunts i think it would be excellent if the local council invested in it's present cultural elements...

Like Liverpool has a Chinatown etc.. It would be nice to see more late night bars and cafe's in Sheffield City centre also.. Just basically making the city centre bigger and more diverse..

steelblade
08-01-2004, 09:15
I think some areas of Sheffield do look like a dump, desloate, grey and forgotten about. However for me personally this adds to it's charm. It's raw, real, and a constant reminder of our Industrial past which is someting we should be very proud of.

The place may not be the most attractive in the world but the people are certainly beautiful! :)

Whelk
08-01-2004, 09:18
This has got to be a wind-up.

Sheffield recorded the second highest house price rises in the country. Wales being the highest.
Sheffield was recorded by the Halifax building society as the housing hotspot of England during 2003.

Dug
08-01-2004, 09:19
If you don't like Sheffield then move.

alert_bri
08-01-2004, 09:20
Viper17 : good luck with your move - and thank you for your valuable contribution to our fine city - after all, what would we be without people like you who are prepared to actually do something to improve things!

Now get lost and if only we could persuade all the other whingers and whiners expecting a free ride to join you our City will be paradise on earth...

Thanks for your help in cleaning up our city ;)

Jim
08-01-2004, 14:43
Hey Viper....you haven't been selling Herbal Life pills for alert_bri by any chance?

Mosherchik
08-01-2004, 15:10
Originally posted by Viper17
:loopy: Fancy calling a forum page "Moving to Sheffield" what a dump, a City that can boast a total lack of investment,in any area of industry,stagnant property prices(compared to other Cities),Lack of work,High un-employment,poor business opportunities,...cant wait to move in 8 weeks.

You can only judge a ******** by the turds that pass through it!!! and the sooner you pass though the better!

To be honest I get highly annoyed by this sort of ranting...if you dont like it then sod off! Quite frankly there are worse places than Sheffield, even the great Manchester (we want to be the new London) didn't exactly bowl me over, it just reminded me of here! One city is very much like another in this country, with good areas and derelicts, and if you cant see that then you will be disappointed wherever you go!.

jackthedog
08-01-2004, 15:20
Is the saying 'Familiarity breeds contempt'?
I've lived here all my life so I notice all the crappy bits of Sheffield. When you visit any other city you tend not to wander off the broken track, so you never end up walking down that city's equivelant of Attercliffe.

As a tourist, Sheffield Town Centre must seem pretty good, surely? It's got everything a city needs.
Wherever Viper17 ends up will seem just as **** as Sheffield after a while.

geronimo
08-01-2004, 15:39
You must be as crazy as me, have you seen the place lately? I go there to work sometimes and what a ******** it is

adamlycett
08-01-2004, 16:56
Originally posted by Viper17
:loopy: Fancy calling a forum page "Moving to Sheffield" what a dump, a City that can boast a total lack of investment,in any area of industry,stagnant property prices(compared to other Cities),Lack of work,High un-employment,poor business opportunities,...cant wait to move in 8 weeks. you are totally clueless you must be from another planet or that was a wind up stop smoking the funny fags and wake up

Viper17
08-01-2004, 22:39
First of all to fudbeer if youve visited Leeds you'll Know their House prices out stripped Sheffields by several thousand quid, All due to the the amount of capital investment in the city,If leeds can do this why cant Sheffield.

As for DaBouncer are you trying to be a one man moderator, if so try curbing your own use of profanities, especially as this is a public board, cant you have a discussion with-out using such words, I suppose you'll be the one in the pub who has to use his fists to get your point across instead of using debating skills. Its your type of post people should ignore.:blush: :blush: :nono: :loopy:

Andy78
08-01-2004, 22:51
steady on dude. to be honest, most people will defend their city. I think it's a good thing to have pride in where you come from even if it does have its problems (which all places do). if you insult somewhere, it's naturally going to get peoples back up.

t020
08-01-2004, 22:53
I agree that a lot of Sheffield is a bit of a dump, but it also contains some of the most affluent areas in the country (with high house prices too), and the city centre is gradually improving. Also, Sheffield is unique as it is right on the edge of a national park, and so urban life and the countryside are only minutes apart. Everyones entitled to their opinions, and if viper thinks the city is a **** hole he shouldn't be bombarded by insulting posts by people wearing rose tinted specs.

Andy78
08-01-2004, 22:57
fair point. all cities have beauty in different ways. sheffields is deffinately the ammount of parkland, in the city and the countryside being so nearby.

Mr BusDriver
09-01-2004, 03:49
In the near Future The City of Sheffield will be split:o
There will be Sheffield East:mad:
And Sheffield West:thumbsup:

And guess where people will want to live and work:confused:

Abdul
09-01-2004, 08:00
You seem pretty hung up about Sheffield East, don't you?

You, a lowly bus driver, living in a housing association property?

You truly are a role model for us all, [Insult removed ]

DaBouncer
09-01-2004, 08:04
Originally posted by Viper17
First of all to fudbeer if youve visited Leeds you'll Know their House prices out stripped Sheffields by several thousand quid, All due to the the amount of capital investment in the city,If leeds can do this why cant Sheffield.

As for DaBouncer are you trying to be a one man moderator, if so try curbing your own use of profanities, especially as this is a public board, cant you have a discussion with-out using such words, I suppose you'll be the one in the pub who has to use his fists to get your point across instead of using debating skills. Its your type of post people should ignore.:blush: :blush: :nono: :loopy:
Awwww bless your ramblings.
Well my user name really should give it away now shouldn't it!

Yes it is a public board and yes I masked the use of my profane language. And Yes Geoff (the boards adminitrator/owner) has seen it and is happy with it's level.

No I don't want to be a moderator on here Viper... there's enough to put you to shame without needing me in any way.

I just call it how I see it. I see you as a c**k and I called you on it!

End of!:thumbsup:

Mike
09-01-2004, 09:38
Sheffield's not the prettiest place in the world, but it's come on in leaps and bounds since I first got here in '85 - if you think it's a dump now, you should have seen it then!

And there's many, many worse places to live than Sheffield. Take a ride out through some of the old mining villages that are now like ghost-towns for starters. Go have a look at some of the bad areas of places like Glasgow or try living in one of the poor areas of Bradford - when I lived there it was horrendous in comparison with Sheffield.

Geoff
09-01-2004, 12:38
Viper/DaBouncer please do not make this thread "personal".

As for the masked swearing issues, it's still a work in progress and the moderators are discussing the current situation as I type.

This thread should probably be closed soon - it didn't exactly start well and hasn't really improved... :rolleyes:

DaBouncer
09-01-2004, 13:15
Fair point... consider knuckles wrapped!

Tony
09-01-2004, 19:02
The profanity, when so badly masked is totally unnecessary. This is still a family forum isn’t it? An f followed by three asterix is not kidding the kids who are tuned in.

t020
09-01-2004, 19:57
Originally posted by Tony
The profanity, when so badly masked is totally unnecessary. This is still a family forum isn’t it? An f followed by three asterix is not kidding the kids who are tuned in.

If they can guess the word from that though, they hardly need 'shielding' from it.

Tony
09-01-2004, 19:58
So does that make it neccesary or desirable T020?

t020
09-01-2004, 20:04
Originally posted by Tony
So does that make it neccesary or desirable T020?

No, not at all. But if a kid can work out a 4 letter word thats masked, they don't really need protecting from it. People shouldn't use swearwords though - purely out of respect for others who may find them objectionable.

Mr BusDriver
10-01-2004, 02:58
Originally posted by Abdul
You seem pretty hung up about Sheffield East, don't you?

You, a lowly bus driver, living in a housing association property?

You truly are a role model for us all, you pillock.


WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:loopy:


I would like the whole of Sheffield to be nice, it just means more money has to be spent in Sheffield East.

Oh and you are not telling me that there is no East/West divide in Sheffield Get Real:mad:

Mike
10-01-2004, 07:03
Hasn't there always been an east / west divide in Sheffield?

I'd heard that because the wind usually blew the smoke from the factories and steel mills from west to east, it was always more desirable (and costly) to live on the west side.

Mr BusDriver
10-01-2004, 07:25
Originally posted by Mike
Hasn't there always been an east / west divide in Sheffield?

I'd heard that because the wind usually blew the smoke from the factories and steel mills from west to east, it was always more desirable (and costly) to live on the west side.


Thank You Mike :thumbsup:

Viper17
10-01-2004, 08:09
In your prior post you State....and I quote "I just call it how I see it. ".. Is that not the same as any-one who makes a comment on this board, or should I remove my rose tinted spec's.

t020
11-01-2004, 00:19
Originally posted by Mr BusDriver
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:loopy:


I would like the whole of Sheffield to be nice, it just means more money has to be spent in Sheffield East.

Oh and you are not telling me that there is no East/West divide in Sheffield Get Real:mad:

I think its more of a South West/ rest of Sheffield divide rather than straight forward West/ East. Afterall, there are places in North West Sheffield that are highly undesirable. The South West quarter however has lovely parks, houses, trees, and one of the highest concentrations of affluent people in the UK, as well as being an area with the most people educated to degree level. There is definitely a divide between the South West and the rest of Sheffield but I can't see what can be done to address the problem. The council should spend more on deprived areas but not at the expense of the the affluent areas - afterall, residents can't lay roads or fix street lights; thats the council's job.

Mongoose
11-01-2004, 01:06
Stagnant property prices?


are you kidding? my mums house in crookes has doubled in price in the last 2 years

Tony
11-01-2004, 08:26
And there are places in NW Sheffield that knock Ecclesall into a cocked hat too.

t020
11-01-2004, 11:13
Originally posted by Tony
And there are places in NW Sheffield that knock Ecclesall into a cocked hat too.

Name one.

Hillsborough? PAH
Walkley? PAH
Worrall? PAH
Shirecliffe? PAH
Grenoside? PAH
Oughtibridge? PAH


I really have no idea of where you could be referring to. Even if there is a place in the NW that *you* think is better than Ecclesall, it doesn't change the fact that the general trend is the SW being much better than anywhere else, including NW. SW doesn't contain run down council sinks, has highest property prices, etc etc. So I'd really be interested to know where you mean???

Tony
11-01-2004, 11:32
Hmm, Woodsetts, Whitley. Grenoside is a lovely village too. Go just a little further and you have Bradfield, Wortley, Dungworth, Storrs, Worrall, Wharncliffe, Langsett, Midhope... Shall I go on, or do you want directions so that you actually can visit these places instead of just travelling the length of Ecclesall Road with blinkers on?

There are also nice areas that have grown from villages to suburbs such as Burncross, Chapeltown, Ecclesfield, Loxley, Stannington, Deepcar, Outibridge.

Ecclesall is a predominantly 1930's - 1950's anonymous 'burb. It is very nice, but it has no heart or soul - it is just a pleasant suburb.

And before you start ranting I live in Fulwood which ISTR you have previously identified as the premier area of Sheffield (I actually disagree – it's Ranmoor and certainly not Dore).

t020
11-01-2004, 13:03
Originally posted by Tony
Hmm, Woodsetts, Whitley. Grenoside is a lovely village too. Go just a little further and you have Bradfield, Wortley, Dungworth, Storrs, Worrall, Wharncliffe, Langsett, Midhope... Shall I go on, or do you want directions so that you actually can visit these places instead of just travelling the length of Ecclesall Road with blinkers on?

There are also nice areas that have grown from villages to suburbs such as Burncross, Chapeltown, Ecclesfield, Loxley, Stannington, Deepcar, Outibridge.

Ecclesall is a predominantly 1930's - 1950's anonymous 'burb. It is very nice, but it has no heart or soul - it is just a pleasant suburb.

And before you start ranting I live in Fulwood which ISTR you have previously identified as the premier area of Sheffield (I actually disagree – it's Ranmoor and certainly not Dore).


Not been to any of those places, but I bet in terms of average house prices and income per household they do not compete with the SW. They may look nice, and are probably much nicer than the East of the city, but I don't think the divide is as straightforwards as East and West.

Andy78
11-01-2004, 16:43
Oh please children, can you put the 'my dad's bigger that your dad' argument to bed. It's getting a bit silly wouldn't you agree?

tango2
11-01-2004, 17:07
Originally posted by Abdul
You seem pretty hung up about Sheffield East, don't you?

You, a lowly bus driver, living in a housing association property?

You truly are a role model for us all, [Insult removed ]

So you have a problem with people that live in rented property ?,
and you see a Driver as being a lowly form of employment ?.
None of us are perfect,and where you live does not reflect on the type of person you are.
I am aware of some well respected people that live in Housing Association properties,Police Men and Women even a Magistrate.
We all keep going round in circles assuming that a person living in a well to do srea is a model person,and someone that lives on an estate is scum.

So does that make being a Policeman a lowly proffession for living in rented accomodation ?.

Tony
11-01-2004, 17:20
Originally posted by t020
Not been to any of those places, but I bet in terms of average house prices and income per household they do not compete with the SW. They may look nice, and are probably much nicer than the East of the city, but I don't think the divide is as straightforwards as East and West. You're talking out of the top of your hat!
You haven't been, but you have an opinion, and you know what the demographic is.
There are some incredible houses in those places that as I said before "knock Ecclesall into a cocked hat". What has income or value got to do with it? That's dinner party talk that is meaningless. You know what lower house prices really means? It means more disposable income in the real world. I know an awful lot of people in Eccelsall that have big credit card limits and blances, but I know which bit of Sheffield it would be easier to go to to find somebody who can write a £25k cheque!

t020
11-01-2004, 17:27
Originally posted by Tony
You're talking out of the top of your hat!
You haven't been, but you have an opinion, and you know what the demographic is.
There are some incredible houses in those places that as I said before "knock Ecclesall into a cocked hat". What has income or value got to do with it? That's dinner party talk that is meaningless. You know what lower house prices really means? It means more disposable income in the real world. I know an awful lot of people in Eccelsall that have big credit card limits and blances, but I know which bit of Sheffield it would be easier to go to to find somebody who can write a £25k cheque!

You're right - I can really see people such as Prince Naz, Chris Waddle, Dave Bassett, Dave Richards, etc etc, choosing to live in NW Sheffield over SW Sheffield..... oh no, they already have chosen SW Sheffield. Also, if you like the NW so much, why did you choose to live in Fulwood? Hardly the cheapest place to live, so can't be for financial reasons I'm intrigued?

Tony
11-01-2004, 18:29
You're changing the point of the discussion T020. I came to work in this area orignally. Does that count?

What does it matter what I think if the NW? This discussion arose because YOU said that the NW was a dump. I countered that with a few facts. You don't seem to need facts to spout off.

I think that you will find plenty of wealthy people in other areas of Sheffield - not just on the west side. You just think that you have them all in Ecclesall and that's just not true.

Anyway - I'm off to Dore now to have a pint with my friends that live there. If Chris Waddle pops in I will say hi.

t020
11-01-2004, 19:10
Originally posted by Tony
You're changing the point of the discussion T020. I came to work in this area orignally. Does that count?

What does it matter what I think if the NW? This discussion arose because YOU said that the NW was a dump. I countered that with a few facts. You don't seem to need facts to spout off.

I think that you will find plenty of wealthy people in other areas of Sheffield - not just on the west side. You just think that you have them all in Ecclesall and that's just not true.

Anyway - I'm off to Dore now to have a pint with my friends that live there. If Chris Waddle pops in I will say hi.

I didn't say the NW was a dump. I said that the divide was not as straight forwards as the East/ West that was previously stated. The SW does have the highest concentration of wealthy people, and that IS a fact, not just me spouting off. It is one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. The NW may have some nice buildings, as you say, but that was obviously not a big enough asset to attract you there - you chose the SW of Sheffield. Also, the argument about the ability to pay a £25k cheque is silly - do you suggest its better to buy a £20k terraced in Page Hall, for example, just to have more disposable income? If you do see Chris Waddle, ask him why he chose Dore and not, say, Storrs or Grenoside. :lol:

DaBouncer
11-01-2004, 19:53
Originally posted by t020
You're right - I can really see people such as Prince Naz, Chris Waddle, Dave Bassett, Dave Richards, etc etc, choosing to live in NW Sheffield over SW Sheffield..... oh no, they already have chosen SW Sheffield. Also, if you like the NW so much, why did you choose to live in Fulwood? Hardly the cheapest place to live, so can't be for financial reasons I'm intrigued?
I wouldn't have really put Nazeem in that... ''I like having him in my area' bracket T020.

He's a menace, driving and in general.
However your other examples are fine by me.

Can someone tell me where abouts in Sheffield Crystal Peaks is (i.e. is it South / East / West / North or some varient)???

Cheers

t020
11-01-2004, 19:55
Originally posted by DaBouncer
I wouldn't have really put Nazeem in that... ''I like having him in my area' bracket T020.

He's a menace, driving and in general.
However your other examples are fine by me.

Can someone tell me where abouts in Sheffield Crystal Peaks is (i.e. is it South / East / West / North or some varient)???

Cheers

South East.

DaBouncer
11-01-2004, 19:56
Originally posted by t020
I didn't say the NW was a dump. I said that the divide was not as straight forwards as the East/ West that was previously stated. The SW does have the highest concentration of wealthy people, and that IS a fact, not just me spouting off. It is one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. The NW may have some nice buildings, as you say, but that was obviously not a big enough asset to attract you there - you chose the SW of Sheffield. Also, the argument about the ability to pay a £25k cheque is silly - do you suggest its better to buy a £20k terraced in Page Hall, for example, just to have more disposable income? If you do see Chris Waddle, ask him why he chose Dore and not, say, Storrs or Grenoside. :lol:
T020, it this argument between you and Tony doesn't really matter. Lets face it, unless you get a REALLY good job that pays LOADS of £££ when you finally leave education YOU wont be living in the area when you finally leave home. Unless of course something happens to mummy and daddy and they leave you the house.

(Tongue in cheek there T020 mi lad, no offence meant)

DaBouncer
11-01-2004, 19:58
Well Sothall (South East) was recently in the National press as one of the best and most desirable places IN THE UK to buy a home and start a family.

For the affordability, community, local shops and low crime etc etc.
So by saying South West is the ONLY place in Sheffield is a crock of it!

Besides an area is what you make of it!

t020
11-01-2004, 20:04
Originally posted by DaBouncer
T020, it this argument between you and Tony doesn't really matter. Lets face it, unless you get a REALLY good job that pays LOADS of £££ when you finally leave education YOU wont be living in the area when you finally leave home. Unless of course something happens to mummy and daddy and they leave you the house.

(Tongue in cheek there T020 mi lad, no offence meant)

I intend to live in one of Sheffields South Western suburbs, or maybe into Derbyshire, as soon as I am able to. I would take a small house in a good area over a big house in a crap area anytime. I also intend to get a decent job. Only the future will tell what happens, but I can say what my intentions are.

t020
11-01-2004, 20:07
Originally posted by DaBouncer
Well Sothall (South East) was recently in the National press as one of the best and most desirable places IN THE UK to buy a home and start a family.

For the affordability, community, local shops and low crime etc etc.
So by saying South West is the ONLY place in Sheffield is a crock of it!

Besides an area is what you make of it!

Never said the SW is the only place in Sheffield. Infact, I was saying the divide wasn't as straightforwards as East and West like several other contributors were stating. In my opinion, the SW contains the best residential areas in the city, but I recognise the fact that there are areas in other parts of the city that may also be nice. I was disputing the fact that the NW and SW were on a par because IMHO, they're not.

Tony
11-01-2004, 21:00
Originally posted by DaBouncer
T020, it this argument between you and Tony doesn't really matter. Lets face it, unless you get a REALLY good job that pays LOADS of £££ when you finally leave education YOU wont be living in the area when you finally leave home. Unless of course something happens to mummy and daddy and they leave you the house.

(Tongue in cheek there T020 mi lad, no offence meant)

Hehe, Youre right. I have enough £££ to live here under my own steam, whereas T020 is sponging off the state and his parents. SPONGER!

t020
11-01-2004, 21:02
Originally posted by Tony
Hehe, Youre right. I have enough £££ to live here under my own steam, whereas T020 is sponging off the state and his parents. SPONGER!

Not the state.

Also, if you have so many £££s, you could live just about anywhere in Sheffield. What made you choose Fulwood, especially given your new found liking of the "nice" places in the NW?????

Tony
11-01-2004, 21:07
So who is paying for you to go to the Polytechnic .. ahem .. Hallam University?

On the other point, I am from the NW. I choose to live here because I like it. That is my choice which I have made for all sorts of reasons, whereas you don't even have the knowledge to compare!

t020
11-01-2004, 21:10
Originally posted by Tony
So who is paying for you to go to the Polytechnic .. ahem .. Hallam University?

On the other point, I am from the NW. I choose to live here because I like it. That is my choice which I have made for all sorts of reasons, whereas you don't even have the knowledge to compare!

First point is somewhat petty - I chose Hallam because of the course, and could quite easily have gone to Sheffield Uni with my grades.

Secondly - you obviously prefer Fulwood to NW Sheffield then?? No surprises there.....

Tony
11-01-2004, 21:15
Come on T020, keep up with the thread. I said that you were sponging on the state - you said that you weren't. I then asked who was paying for you to go to the Poly. Don't go all defensive, you don't need to 'cos I studied there when it had meaningful courses. So I ask again - who pays for your course?

I also answered your other question ages ago - I came to live here because I work and play here. Why should I live 10 miles away? Incredibly, I also like it because it is a nice part of Sheffield - I never said that it wasn't, I just said that there I know that there are lots of nice places in the NW. It doesn't mean that I am compelled to live there. You just don't seem to have ANY knowledge of anything other than the route between Ecclesall and the Poly.

t020
11-01-2004, 21:19
Originally posted by Tony
Come on T020, keep up with the thread. I said that you were sponging on the state - you said that you weren't. I then asked who was paying for you to go to the Poly. Don't go all defensive, you don't need to 'cos I studied there when it had meaningful courses. So I ask again - who pays for your course?

I also answered your question ages ago - I came to live here because I work and play here. Why should I live 10 miles away?

I don't go to poly. Also, the state don't pay for me - as I've already answered. Anything more specific than that isn't really your business. Are you implying courses there now aren't 'meaningful' just because a lot are now degrees?

If you loved the NW so much, a 10 mile commute would be nothing. I think you enjoy the status of living in Fulwood, and thats why you chose it, but you don't want to admit it so I won't expect you to.

Tony
11-01-2004, 21:22
Originally posted by t020
I don't go to poly. Also, the state don't pay for me - as I've already answered. Anything more specific than that isn't really your business. Are you implying courses there now aren't 'meaningful' just because a lot are now degrees?

If you loved the NW so much, a 10 mile commute would be nothing. I think you enjoy the status of living in Fulwood, and thats why you chose it, but you don't want to admit it so I won't expect you to.

I think that you should re-read my earlier post. On the matter of the Poly, Who on earth do you think is paying for you to study?

t020
11-01-2004, 21:25
Originally posted by Tony
I think that you should re-read my earlier post. On the matter of the Poly, Who on earth do you think is paying for you to study?

Like I said, not the state, so none of your business really.

Tony
11-01-2004, 21:32
So you are privately funded by your employer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Pauly
11-01-2004, 21:52
I know I'm new here and everything but hasn't this gone slightly off topic?

t020
11-01-2004, 21:53
Originally posted by Pauly-Plumba
I know I'm new here and everything but hasn't this gone slightly off topic?


Discussing whether or not Sheffield is a dump, to being interrogated about who pays my tuition fees....... I'd say so, yes, Paul.

Abdul
12-01-2004, 07:09
Reply to tango2 and Mr BusDriver:

Of course there is a divide between the two halves of the city.

I was just stumped by the point Mr BusDriver made:

And guess where people will want to ... work:confused:

especially when most of the businesses, hospitals and Universities are in the city centre, and most of the heavy industry is in the East.

Mr BusDriver
12-01-2004, 07:29
Originally posted by tango2
So you have a problem with people that live in rented property ?,
and you see a Driver as being a lowly form of employment ?.
None of us are perfect,and where you live does not reflect on the type of person you are.
I am aware of some well respected people that live in Housing Association properties,Police Men and Women even a Magistrate.
We all keep going round in circles assuming that a person living in a well to do srea is a model person,and someone that lives on an estate is scum.

So does that make being a Policeman a lowly proffession for living in rented accomodation ?.

Thanks Tango2 :thumbsup:
You hit the nail on the head with this comment.

Tony
12-01-2004, 07:29
Only by one post T020. I was asking you why you thought I should be compelled to live in an area? Hehe, and you do seem to be rather defensive about tuition fees. n:)

tango2
12-01-2004, 08:14
Originally posted by Abdul
Reply to tango2 and Mr BusDriver:

Of course there is a divide between the two halves of the city.

I was just stumped by the point Mr BusDriver made:



especially when most of the businesses, hospitals and Universities are in the city centre, and most of the heavy industry is in the East.

That is true,we all know there is a divide,but how does that make a Bus Driver a lowly job ?.
Is it just because its not the job of your choice?,and I fail to see the bearing on living in Housing Association Property.

Or maybe you just see everyone beneath you as being lowly.

Viper17
12-01-2004, 10:56
As the original poster of this subject I have come to realise that the thread should now be closed.........OR...... changed to the Tony and t020 show........as they have taken the subject totally out of context...:thumbsup:

Abdul
12-01-2004, 12:05
Originally posted by tango2
That is true,we all know there is a divide,but how does that make a Bus Driver a lowly job ?.
Is it just because its not the job of your choice?,and I fail to see the bearing on living in Housing Association Property.

Or maybe you just see everyone beneath you as being lowly.

Just because I take issue with Mr BusDriver does not mean I see everybody 'beneath' me as lowly. Firstly, his autosig 'Dore - An illegal immigrant free area'. Obviously, he fancies himself as a 'big man' of Dore and wants response.

Well then - let him answer my question. If all the jobs are in the city centre and the east of the city, how can people live and work in the west? Perhaps if you drive a number 50 all day long you can.

debbie
12-01-2004, 20:33
Originally posted by Moon Maiden
According to your sig there you live in the Manor?? What else do you expect?? :loopy:

Moon Maiden


wots wrong with the manor? iv got mates that live there. i love spending time on the manor. but then again... i love sheff. and no i dont live there, im from leeds. well we all have our cross to bear lol

Tony
12-01-2004, 21:26
Originally posted by Viper17
As the original poster of this subject I have come to realise that the thread should now be closed.........OR...... changed to the Tony and t020 show........as they have taken the subject totally out of context...:thumbsup:
Yea, but Viper17 you haven't commented on what you think about the changes that are happening around your area that you say you hate. BTW, that was my question in the 4th post of the thread ! :)

Viper17
12-01-2004, 21:45
Sheffield has served its purpose for me...given me what I require..I can now leave and not miss the place one little bit....If any-one is interested I am moving to Cornwall....Im sure some one will have some comments about that......but I consider that i'm doing the right thing........:wave:

qazitory
13-01-2004, 00:38
Originally posted by Tony
Only by one post T020. I was asking you why you thought I should be compelled to live in an area? Hehe, and you do seem to be rather defensive about tuition fees. n:)

dont get me started on tution fees!! thank god i'm leaving this year, so i dont have to pay £3000+ a year!!!

its a bit daft students in the future will be paying thousands of pounds out, whereas a few years ago they GAVE you money to go to uni!

I need to go to uni to afford a house in Fulwood lol

qazitory
13-01-2004, 00:41
Originally posted by Tony
You're changing the point of the discussion T020. I came to work in this area orignally. Does that count?

What does it matter what I think if the NW? This discussion arose because YOU said that the NW was a dump. I countered that with a few facts. You don't seem to need facts to spout off.

I think that you will find plenty of wealthy people in other areas of Sheffield - not just on the west side. You just think that you have them all in Ecclesall and that's just not true.

Anyway - I'm off to Dore now to have a pint with my friends that live there. If Chris Waddle pops in I will say hi.

My mate lives two doors away from Chris Waddle! He lives in Dore btw (SW Sheffield!!!!)

Joanna
13-01-2004, 18:01
Being from Sheffield, I love the place. I'm just disappointed that the council wastes so much of tax payers' money constructing buildings and knocking them down e.g. the Woodside estate, where millions was spent re-developing the dwellings; only for them to be demolished 10 years later, also the hole in the road, tower block estates and continuous road works which are ruining the city... The list is endless......

qazitory
13-01-2004, 18:30
Originally posted by JOANNA
Being from Sheffield, I love the place. I'm just disappointed that the council wastes so much of tax payers' money constructing buildings and knocking them down e.g. the Woodside estate, where millions was spent re-developing the dwellings; only for them to be demolished 10 years later, also the hole in the road, tower block estates and continuous road works which are ruining the city... The list is endless......

The NCPM as well!!! The Flower Estate and The town bus station (why is money being spent on it, if its meant to be moving???), There are many more!!! :loopy: