I am starting this thread as a spin off from the one about sniffer dogs. I was disturbed by a few people's comments that there are no drug free bars. I'd like to think that is not the case or at the very least some have much less of a drug problem than others.

I would like this thread to be for information only and not become a debate about the rights and wrongs of drugs. If people just want to express an opinion they can do so on the other thread. I would genuinely like to know which are the most drug free bars.

Also I have said bars rather than clubs in the hope that they are less likely to have a drug problem than clubs. Any information would be greatly appreachiated (perhaps by more people than just me).

Slimster, I think you might be on to a loser with this question. It's not the bars themselves that are full of drugs, it's all down to the people who go in them and what they have or don;t have.

Yes but which bars are least likely to attract those who take drugs.

Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

See, you're getting this completely wrong.

Just because there are people in an establishment using drugs does not mean the establishment has a drugs problem. It does not also mean that those who use the drugs have a drugs problem.

I highly doubt that on a busy Friday or Saturday there is going to be a single bar in the city center that doesn't have at least one person in the bar whose taking some sort of drug, so I guess by your standards then every bar has a "drugs problem".

Perhaps, slim your problem is that you should sit at home drinking. Those on drugs pose little or not threat to you, and indeed I'd doubt you'd even notice. One of the nicest patrons at a bar I used to work at was a heavy coke user, unless you knew him really well you'd never notice - you had to watch for his little finger twitching to see whether he'd taken any that night or not.

I don't understand your obssessions with things like this, do you suffer from OCD or the like? If you're really that worried and want an entirely drug free night, perhaps you should lock yourself in your bedroom? After all Alcohol IS a drug.

Originally posted by slimsid2000
Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

See, if you've never seen anybody on it, then how do you know that ANY of the bars in Sheffield have a drugs problem?

Originally posted by slimsid2000
Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

You may notice that people who drink alcohol can sometimes behave in a strange way and hence people on drugs (by which I guess you mean illegal drugs) would probably blend in quite nicely!

basically....which is not a dodgy pub

or alternatively....any pub you go to where someone offers you drugs...take down a description and fone the police (if it bothers you that much then you can go vigilantie lol)

Originally posted by slimsid2000
Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

the signs to look out for are for people NOT doing the following:

1. projectile vomiting
2. fighting
3. singing in the streets
4. abusing taxi drivers, bar staff, doormen, takeaway workers

..and any other symptoms that binge drinking alcohol addicts have.

Originally posted by slimsid2000
Yes but which bars are least likely to attract those who take drugs.


The most boring ones I imagine.

real ale pubs are probably your best bet, (sorry all you drug takeing real ale fans) otherwise you are probably after a bar without a toilet, which unfortunately for you, but lucky for the rest of use are pretty rare.

I can't think of single pub in Sheff that gives out free drugs.

Oh wait....

Empire bar...



no...


Champs...


no.....



maybe this will help you - start a conversation with your suspected user and follow this helpful guide

http://www.direct.gov.uk/HealthAndWellBeing/HealthyLiving/HealthyLivingArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4002804&chk=mDA%2B5m

How are are you dude? You sound like you were born in dark ages.
I suggest you sit at home and sob into your can of skol or whatever it is you drink, and just think ''if i wasn't such an idiot, then i could be out somewhere having a good time''.

My mum and Dad are more clued up than you are they are both over 50.

Originally posted by DaisyBoo
How are are you dude? You sound like you were born in dark ages.
I suggest you sit at home and sob into your can of skol or whatever it is you drink, and just think ''if i wasn't such an idiot, then i could be out somewhere having a good time''.

My mum and Dad are more clued up than you are they are both over 50.

Our Sid ain't that far off hitting 50 though!

QUOTE
real ale pubs are probably your best bet, (sorry all you drug takeing real ale fans)
UNQUOTE

I know drug takers that do frequent real ale pubs!

Sorry but there are NO bars anywhere in any UK city where you can be absolutely guaranteed that there will be no drug-takers, period.

Just accept it!

Slimsid, if your limiting, preconveived, and quite frankly WRONG ideas about drug takers (from the hyped-up, biased, overblown media stories, most likely) are preventing you from going out, then thats your problem - and loss!!!

PS, slimsid, if you don't even know how drug-takers bahave, how can you possibly be so concerned about avoiding them??????

they apparently post a lot of puerile posts on message boards expressing desperation at not being able to get a woman....:suspect:



Originally posted by slimsid2000
Yes but which bars are least likely to attract those who take drugs.

Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

Good god Slim, you just don't listen do you!

THE ONLY PUBS / CLUBS THAT ARE DRUG FREE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSED!

Sorry to shout.

People of all ages, shapes and sizes take recreational drugs. These people go to pubs and clubs. These people will also have many friends who don't take drugs. THEY MAY EVEN MINGLE!

Take Dore for example. One of the most affluent areas in Sheffield, full of posh houses, rich people, drug free I am guessing you would think. One of the many busy pubs in Dore used to have a very rvery relaxed attitude to people smoking weed. It may still have!

You just don't get it.

Maybe you should open a bar with a strict no drug users policy. Then we can all sit and laugh at its pathetic failure. And on that note laugh at you and your pathetic failure to achieve any form of social integration.

its true,very rare you find a drugfree zone nowadays

Slim, maybe you should try some, they can do great things for your mind. I once thought I was a tree rooted to the ground and couldn't move for a week!

He's right Sid.
Go on, do it..........all your mates have........

!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Originally posted by slimsid2000
Yes but which bars are least likely to attract those who take drugs.

Also, wouldn't someone on drugs act in a very strange way that would stand out a mile? I am not sure I have witnessed this although I don't know what signs to look out for.

dude, you sound like my dad. People on drugs act weird? Unlike drunks? :help:

To be fair - people on Ketamin act weird - if ever there was drug that made people act like "they were on drugs" its K...

I was once in pub in Sharrow (a few year and landlords ago) loads of folk on the K in there - on a tuesday teatime... Still i dont think any of them had pressing important business engagements to go to on the wed morning! I decided to move on...

But back on track - as has been pointed out - Stella is legal and that one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Why does it make you so lairy? its not the strength of it as Grolsh or Kronenberg or even proper Belgian Stella doesnt have the same just-add-for-instant- argument/punch-up effect...

maybe slimsid is one of those straight edgers who go around beating anyone up who drinks - takes drugs - smokes... i wonder if he has a gf yet ?

Meant to ask Sid, do you read the Daily Mail? :hihi:

.........................

Originally posted by pabloescobar
Even in really dodgy bars where the toilets have blue filters over the lights to stop people pinning H hasn't detered druqs use.

As mentioned on other threads some toilet cubicle have all flat surfaces sprayed with WD40 to stop people having a sneaky line.

Lets face it I'd rather go to a bar where people are on a cocktail of gak and booze than just booze. They may have their heads up their arses but better than their fist in your face.

The millenium dome had those blue lights yknow :D:D:D

Right! My two-pennorth:

I have a lot of friends who regularly use drugs of all sorts, none of them are addicted, but they do buy them in clubs. I've sat with them whilst they've bought/taken them (amphets like speed/bass, E, etc)and I don't, but I've never had any hassle or had anything 'pushed' upon me. From my own experience, drugs in clubs and bars is very much a choice thing - if you want to seek out the drug culture, go for it but you can go a whole night without seeing any use (never seen any hard drug use at the Leadmill). 'Druggies' are not crazed loonies shouting 'accciiiiiiiiiiiid' and trying to stab you with used syringes, as the media would have us believe. All bars and clubs' official line, obviously, is that illegal drugs are banned, so if you do get into any trouble (say your drink is spiked - not even an issue if you've got any sense not to leave it lying around) then you can get help from the staff.

Stop fretting!

I know sid is a mature student (from what he has told us) but i reckon he must be doing some sort of project and how society see people with no hope in their lives or some sort of research.

What kind person, from what i have experienced, comes on to forum like this with various types of people from society first to say he is a 35 year old virgin whom has never kissed or touched a girl.

Following on from two of his most recent posts he now seems to want to know about the drug culture in bars in Sheffield. Then i have seen posts like what do you think of Margaret Thatcher. Why? :confused:

Do you never get out and you are the man you portray yourself to be, or are you doing research, or do you even work for a newspaper/magazine wanting to know the public perception of you? Or are back to the lack of sex bit, are you really working for a film company promoting the 40 year old virgin?!?

Does anyone on this forum actually know this guy? Or am i just being cynical?

check when his earliest post is, if it's some kind of research then it's going on for an awfully long time.
I don't think anyone has met him, despite offers by a few he thinks it's dangerous to meet someone you've met on the internet... MsBehavin was actually planning to drug his coffee and drag him off when they met, NOT.

I think he's genuine though.

Originally posted by Cyclone

I don't think anyone has met him, despite offers by a few he thinks it's dangerous to meet someone you've met on the internet
.

After all we might all be on drugs :D

I have often thought that I rather be in a club with loads of loved up people who are there to dance and have a good time, then in a bar with loads of p***ed up lads trying to grope me and my friends making obscene jokes and gestures and generally not taking no for an answer. Now this is an over generalisation, yes, but thats just how I feel.

To answer the question of where the drug free pubs are in Sheffield - the answer is simple. There are none.

Fascinating to see how many people cluster round to stick the boot in on Sid whenever he starts one of these (admittedly moronic) threads. "What a deliciously easy target!", they all cry...

Personally I think he is having a laugh, and the joke's on all of us!

Have you tried a Darby and Joan club? - although you have to be wary as many of the OAPS sell their 'Jellies' in order to support their crack addiction.

Originally posted by Bully_Beef
Personally I think he is having a laugh, and the joke's on all of us!

hmm, methinks your right!

Originally posted by jake
To be fair - people on Ketamin act weird - if ever there was drug that made people act like "they were on drugs" its K...

I was once in pub in Sharrow (a few year and landlords ago) loads of folk on the K in there - on a tuesday teatime... Still i dont think any of them had pressing important business engagements to go to on the wed morning! I decided to move on...

But back on track - as has been pointed out - Stella is legal and that one of the most dangerous drugs known to man. Why does it make you so lairy? its not the strength of it as Grolsh or Kronenberg or even proper Belgian Stella doesnt have the same just-add-for-instant- argument/punch-up effect...

wouldn't happen to begin with a V would it?

Originally posted by noseyrosie
The millenium dome had those blue lights yknow :D:D:D

Right! My two-pennorth:

I have a lot of friends who regularly use drugs of all sorts, none of them are addicted, but they do buy them in clubs. I've sat with them whilst they've bought/taken them (amphets like speed/bass, E, etc)and I don't, but I've never had any hassle or had anything 'pushed' upon me. From my own experience, drugs in clubs and bars is very much a choice thing - if you want to seek out the drug culture, go for it but you can go a whole night without seeing any use (never seen any hard drug use at the Leadmill). 'Druggies' are not crazed loonies shouting 'accciiiiiiiiiiiid' and trying to stab you with used syringes, as the media would have us believe. All bars and clubs' official line, obviously, is that illegal drugs are banned, so if you do get into any trouble (say your drink is spiked - not even an issue if you've got any sense not to leave it lying around) then you can get help from the staff.

Stop fretting!

I hope they know and trust the people they are getting them off. I'd strongly advise against anyone buying drugs in clubs unless they know the dealer well and the dealer takes the stuff themselves. Much better (and cheaper) to take your own.

Originally posted by robbie
wouldn't happen to begin with a V would it?


ha ha yeah it must be and no change of landlords or amount of time is gonna change the rum as they come bunch that make up that clique

Originally posted by robbie
I hope they know and trust the people they are getting them off. I'd strongly advise against anyone buying drugs in clubs unless they know the dealer well and the dealer takes the stuff themselves. Much better (and cheaper) to take your own.

Yes yes, friends with them. I think they often do take their own but basically theyre buying it off the same people whether before or after!

Originally posted by RobT
I know sid is a mature student (from what he has told us) but i reckon he must be doing some sort of project and how society see people with no hope in their lives or some sort of research.

What kind person, from what i have experienced, comes on to forum like this with various types of people from society first to say he is a 35 year old virgin whom has never kissed or touched a girl.

Does anyone on this forum actually know this guy? Or am i just being cynical?

Of course! THAT'S IT! :clap:
Sid. you sneaky genius! playing with us all this time! We are so gullible- to think we didn't notice when the signs were so obvious - even your old avatar was deliberately chosen to subconciously give off the vibe of a pervy old man.
I feel soo manipulated! :blush:

I can picture him now, thinking up new bizarre things to write & chuckling to himself. Possibly having the odd white line & a threesome between posts(?!) Well, you've been foiled mister!

Originally posted by mjlacey21
[B]Empire bar...



no...


Champs...


no.....



B]

I have been to both of these places several times and can't say I have noticed much of a drug culture. Then again I don't really know what to look out for.

When I say people who take drugs I mean those who actually take them in the bar rather than someone going to a particular bar who has taken a drug at sometime in their life.

Is drug taking in the Empire and Champs very prevelant?

Many of the pretty young girls in the Empire and Champs will, as you lust after them, already be on drugs.

How do you know this? Are you not just making assumptions?

It's life. It's what people do at the weekend. (and in the week) Accept it and move on. If you can't handle the fact that LOTS of people in clubs and bars, including the ones you frequent, WILL be on a combination of Alcohol, Speed, Escstacy and Cocaine. Some will not be on any, some may be on nearly all! People take drugs and go to bars.

ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON!

I think if they see Sid lusting after them they'll be on tranquilisers and anti depressants...so there u go Sid u will have something in common with them after all..... :hihi:

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
Many of the pretty young girls in the Empire and Champs will, as you lust after them, already be on drugs.

QUOTE
I have been to both of these places several times and can't say I have noticed much of a drug culture. Then again I don't really know what to look out for.
UNQUOTE

these are symptoms of drug taking that i have witnessed in my experience (excluding heroin and crack as i have never knowingly witnessed anyone on those):

laughing
smiling
hugging
kissing
enthusiasticly chatting
happily dancing

only they will prbably be doing and feeling these things more intesely then non drug takers as drugs enhance enjoyment.

Maxien, I am shocked! :o Those 'symptoms' you describe sound just like any normal social gathering... even an image from a Christmas card. I had better stop enjoying myself when I go out in case I am mistaken for a drug user.

Exactly my point!! you can't actually distinguish someone on drugs from someone out enjoying themselves without drugs. Unless they have taken an unusually large amount of anything, but then they would just be acting like a regular drunk!

Originally posted by KATIEB_23
Of course! THAT'S IT! :clap:
Sid. you sneaky genius! playing with us all this time! We are so gullible- to think we didn't notice when the signs were so obvious - even your old avatar was deliberately chosen to subconciously give off the vibe of a pervy old man.
I feel soo manipulated! :blush:

I can picture him now, thinking up new bizarre things to write & chuckling to himself. Possibly having the odd white line & a threesome between posts(?!) Well, you've been foiled mister!

Yep, sid is a genius!!! Playing with members of the forum and manipulating us all!

I mean, this guy cannot be serious. He seems to have so many issues...surely there must some other reason? He cant really be the man he portrays himself to be? :confused:

Would the real slim sid please stand up? Or have i got this completely wrong??? :blush:

these are symptoms of drug taking that i have witnessed in my experience (excluding heroin and crack as i have never knowingly witnessed anyone on those):

laughing
smiling
hugging
kissing
enthusiasticly chatting
happily dancing

only they will prbably be doing and feeling these things more intesely then non drug takers as drugs enhance enjoyment. [/B]

ok lets not make it something its not. yes these certainly are symptoms - but they are not the only ones, just the positive ones. there are bad ones too and i think it only fair these should be pointed out, being aggitated, wide eyed, chewing intensely, sweating, talking rubbish, arrogance and i know there are more people on here will point out.

I'm just trying, in the aim of fairness to point out both sides of the story because this is getting like a pro-drugs thread and they like anything, have their downsides.

You're right about pros and cons Lee1979, but it does seem a little bit like Slimsid is just trying to get a reaction here.

If (as he says) he can't spot drug users when he goes out, why on earth does he need to avoid bars with them in? I'm not a drug user myself, but I don't avoid places where there might be drugs about. It's like saying avoid crossing the road in case there's a hit and run - barmy!

Really Sid I hadn't realised you had an interest in those bars.

Next you'll be telling me you're after a girlfriend or something crazy like that

Sid, alcohol is a drug!

Alcohol is sold in bars!

ALL BARS have drug users in them by definition.

Sid, drugs are not the problem, people are the problem. If you want to avoid drugs you had better get used to the fact that you are going to be avoiding ALL social occasions for the rest of your life! NO WEDDINGS, NO PARTIES, NO FUN!!!! Just because you wish to avoid meeting people whose idea of acceptable or fun is different to yours.

Sid get over your prejudices because you're about to become the loneliest guy in the world!

*Yawn*

Is it just me or is this gradually becoming the most tedious thread in the history of the world?

Quote
there are bad ones too and i think it only fair these should be pointed out, being aggitated, wide eyed, chewing intensely, sweating, talking rubbish, arrogance and i know there are more people on here will point out.
UNQUOTE

So you are saying, Lee, that only people on illegal drugs sweat, talk rubbish, show agitation or arrogance????? I think plenty of people drunk or even sober will show these signs!!! It still shows that there isnt much of a distinction between drug-users/non drug-users.

Wide eyed and chewing, well thats true but not very noticable. I certainly have never seen anyone chewing intensely in all my nights out in clubs/bars!!!

Originally posted by maxien
QUOTE
I have been to both of these places several times and can't say I have noticed much of a drug culture. Then again I don't really know what to look out for.
UNQUOTE

these are symptoms of drug taking that i have witnessed in my experience (excluding heroin and crack as i have never knowingly witnessed anyone on those):

laughing
smiling
hugging
kissing
enthusiasticly chatting
happily dancing

only they will prbably be doing and feeling these things more intesely then non drug takers as drugs enhance enjoyment.

More accurately:

laughing at things that aren't THAT funny (huh huh - a chair)
smiling all the time (till the cheeks hurt)
hugging everyone
kissing everyone
enthusiasticly chatting about wierd stuff and how good everything is
happily dancing ALL NIGHT without a break.

It depends on the drug of course. SOmeone on vallium doesn't do much at all. Whereas someone on acid could do anything...

Originally posted by maxien
QUOTE

these are symptoms of drug taking that i have witnessed in my experience (excluding heroin and crack as i have never knowingly witnessed anyone on those):

laughing
smiling
hugging
kissing
enthusiasticly chatting
happily dancing

only they will prbably be doing and feeling these things more intesely then non drug takers as drugs enhance enjoyment.

Blimey! sounds like slims Amateur dramatics club. :o

Originally posted by maxien

Wide eyed and chewing, well thats true but not very noticable. I certainly have never seen anyone chewing intensely in all my nights out in clubs/bars!!!

Are you taking the p*ss ?? You must be going round with your eyes shut.

You were pointing out all the good things about drug taking and I was simply pointing out the other things in the interest of fairness. And i'm not saying that people on drugs are the onlly ones like this but if your in a club, you can tell the people on drugs, those with any of the symptoms we have mentioned - thats all i'm saying.

basically drugs heighten certain emotions.

Instead of being happy and liking your frineds you could instead like everyone (always a bit offputting I find and I've never been prone to this :suspect: )

Also the wide eyed thing is a bit overplayed. I mean the only time I've been accused of being on drugs in clubs is when I've been really tired and had strained eyes :confused:

although there is always that moment when you think/say that nothing is happening then you look at yourself in the mirror and "oh my god look at my eyes moment"

I personally talk rubbish wether drinking or on drugs. You do tend to repeat yourself about 10 times on speed compared to 2 or 3 times drunk :D though.

Sweating? that be a lot of dancing.

Grinding of teeth. frustrating. especially when you are trying to snog someone. Bit of a handicap :D

Originally posted by Bacala
ha ha yeah it must be and no change of landlords or amount of time is gonna change the rum as they come bunch that make up that clique

I've had some comedy mixed pool games in there. :D

In my personal experience both alchohol and illegal drugs not only have good and bad points, but they exagerate personailty traits.
If your an aggressive person youre likely to be physically aggressive whilst drunk, if your on coke your likely to be verbally agressive.

If your laid back and fun, youll be laid back and fun whether on coke or E or drunk.

The big eyes and chatting **** used to be amusing when i went to gatecrasher at the republic many moons ago, as was the chatting CRAP, but it bores me now. So the comments made about not seeing these types of symptons are laughable. Its blatantly obvious.

I think you ought to do a bit more research slim, if you don't belive people on here, there are other ways of finding things out.
you have the internet for one, have a proper look.
stop living in your bubble and see the real world.

i am pleasantly surprised that there are so many informed and mature reponses in this thread :)

i thought it would just attract a lot of "drugs are teh kewl lolz!!!!!11" replies, which could arguably add fuel to sid's naïve and tenuous argument..

Originally posted by dirtybobby
"drugs are teh kewl lolz!!!!!11"

Actually that was to be my next point...

Originally posted by dirtybobby
i am pleasantly surprised that there are so many informed and mature reponses in this thread :)

i thought it would just attract a lot of "drugs are teh kewl lolz!!!!!11" replies, which could arguably add fuel to sid's naïve and tenuous argument..

it just goes to show that not all people who take drugs are addicted junkies who are out to destroy society and would walk over their own mother to get the next hit, also that many people can take them recreationally without letting them take over their lives. in much the same way that not everyone who drinks goes on to become an alcoholic.

its just becoming more and more a part of socialising. accept it.

lee I think you missed the point there...

Originally posted by Carl_Malibu
lee I think you missed the point there...

really?? i thought she was just reinforcing the point? :confused:

i think it's also commendable that there appears to be a lot of non-drug users here who understand the direction that social drug taking is taking :) like lee pointed out, drugs are enjoyed recreationally by hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of people nationwide every weekend, without it encroaching on their day to day life.. obviously, there are abusers out there, but only in the same way that some people go on to abuse alcohol as lee pointed out..

it will be interesting to see if this shift in society's perception will have an effect on uk drug laws in the next 10 years or so.. reminds me of ben elton's "high society" :)

I notice there is now a poll in General about who does what (anonymous of course)

Be intersting to see the results in the light of this thread....

Originally posted by Carl_Malibu
lee I think you missed the point there...

no i didn't. as was said, i was re-inforcing it.

Lea x

.................................................. ..

Hi Slimsid. I would recommend you try the Market Tavern on Exchange Street. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Agent Gypo
.................................................. ..

considering where your night is hosted, i assume you posted in this thread for the sake of irony? ;)

:hihi:

Originally posted by dirtybobby
considering where your night is hosted, i assume you posted in this thread for the sake of irony? ;)

:hihi:

I'm sure I don't know what you mean :o