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anniec
20-03-2010, 21:16
I saw this article and thought it made interesting reading. I'd like to say I used a sling with my second baby and loved it and I'd do it again.

Just wondered what peoples thoughts are on this article: (http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259358/Yummy-mummy-baby-slings-kill.html?ITO=1708&referrer=yahoo)

For those who don't want to click the link here is the contents of the article:

Parents are being warned about the danger of baby slings made popular by celebrities and 'yummy mummies' following a number of deaths.

The slings have gained popularity in recent years on the basis that they promote a natural bond between a mother and her new baby.

However, health authorities in the U.S. say the slings pose a risk of suffocation and may have been responsible for the deaths of 14 children.

Babies can find their mouths and noses are covered by material yet their neck muscles are so weak in the first few months of life they cannot move to free themselves.

Additionally, where a sling keeps the baby in a curled position, bending the chin toward the chest, the airways can be restricted, limiting the oxygen supply.

Slings, endorsed by celebrities such as Brad Pitt and Nicole Kidman, are praised for their practicality because they allow parents to keep their baby close to them while leaving their hands free.

They are also presented as a natural way to carry a baby, based on the notion that the warmth and closeness to the parent's heartbeat creates a feeling of security.

TV presenter Myleene Klass has her own range of slings, while Mothercare has reported a 100 per cent year-on-year increase in sales.

The Mumsnet forum for parents heralds slings as a 'great idea for getting around with your child'.

But now an investigation has been launched in the U.S. into 14 deaths associated with baby slings over the last 20 years, including three in 2009. Twelve of the deaths involved babies younger than four months.

The deaths have prompted the U.S. Government to issue a warning over the use of slings with babies under 16 weeks.

Inez Tenenbaum, chairman of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, said: 'We know of too many deaths in these slings and we know the hazard scenarios for very small babies.

'So, the time has come to alert parents and caregivers.'

The same body took a world lead in warning about the safety of McLaren baby buggies last year after children's fingertips were amputated in a hinge mechanism.

Subsequently, the health alert was extended to the UK and beyond.

The British Government has not issued any safety warnings about slings but the Department of Health said parents should follow the guidelines printed in its Pregnancy Book, which is handed out free to expectant parents.

This advises parents to ensure that the infant's head is supported and that the carrier is always fastened securely to the wearer's body.

Sheila Merrill of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA), said: 'If parents feel they must use slings it is very important that they are shown and understand how to use them correctly.'

The not-for-profit Consumers Union in the U.S. said, in addition to the deaths, it was aware of 37 infants who had been seriously hurt while being carried in a sling, mostly by falling out.

gina2007
20-03-2010, 21:31
14 deaths associated with baby slings over the last 20 years Out of how many million sling users, over 20years? Its less than 1 a year.

37 infants who had been seriously hurt while being carried in a sling, mostly by falling out. Presuming it is again over 20years, then thats approx 2 a year, but its also most probably that the wearer didnt fix the sling up properly causing the child to fall out.

I didnt click the link, I was lazy and read what you'd copied Annie, but seriously? It cant put pressure on any govn' to issue warnings out can it? Its over a 20 year period, i'd rather pay my tax on highlighting underage sex/drinking (And yes, I know I am one of those statistics with underage) but i'd rather see my money been spent elsewhere. I know this is mainly in the US but if the UK start issuing warnings then I think i'll be pretty much gobsmacked to be honest.

jenz245
20-03-2010, 21:37
Agree with Gina. A load of rubbish if you ask me. There were more accidents with the maclarens not any deaths as i know of but that to me was parents been careless as the above deaths were more than likely caused by being careless.
Everything is a danger to a small child its all about having commen sense.
I couldn't get on with a sling myself but they are ideal for those who do use them correctly and are comfortable in doing so.

medusa
20-03-2010, 22:05
How does that casualty figure compare with the number of babies dropped by parents or carers who fumble whilst carrying their little one? Slings may not be foolproof, but then hands aren't either.

monstermummy
21-03-2010, 08:59
The whole issue is about bag slings, not slings in general, here is the original study (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10165.html)with the correct wording.
However, somwehere this got lost and now all slings seem to be drawn into this. It is about the whole chin to chest issue and can also happen when a baby is seated wrongly in a car seat ( here (http://kids-safety-products.suite101.com/article.cfm/small_babies_in_infant_car_seats_safety_risks)and here (http://www.newhorizonacademy.net/downloads/0207_Infant_Car_Seat_Safety.pdf))

Here (http://babyslingsafety.blogspot.com/)is another article on why bag slings can be dangerous.

And here is an article (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/03/prweb3718984.htm)on the differences in slings.

And another one (http://magiccityslingers.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/baby-sling-safety-the-cpsc-warning-has-been-misreported-baby-slings-can-be-used-safely-from-birth-but-some-sling-like-carriers-should-be-recalled/)in which you can read some more about the slings that should be recalled and avoided.

scoop
21-03-2010, 09:05
My son fell out of a sling (head first) when he was a couple of weeks old when my husband picked it up incorrectly.

Luckily, he wasn't injured as someone was sat by his side at the time and caught him, but it was a very hairy moment, due completely to user error.

Plain Talker
21-03-2010, 09:21
The whole issue is about bag slings, not slings in general, here is the original study (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10165.html)with the correct wording.
However, somwehere this got lost and now all slings seem to be drawn into this. It is about the whole chin to chest issue and can also happen when a baby is seated wrongly in a car seat ( here (http://kids-safety-products.suite101.com/article.cfm/small_babies_in_infant_car_seats_safety_risks)and here (http://www.newhorizonacademy.net/downloads/0207_Infant_Car_Seat_Safety.pdf))

Here (http://babyslingsafety.blogspot.com/)is another article on why bag slings can be dangerous.

And here is an article (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/03/prweb3718984.htm)on the differences in slings.

And another one (http://magiccityslingers.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/baby-sling-safety-the-cpsc-warning-has-been-misreported-baby-slings-can-be-used-safely-from-birth-but-some-sling-like-carriers-should-be-recalled/)in which you can read some more about the slings that should be recalled and avoided.

from the original study

Many of the babies who died in slings were either a low birth weight twin, were born prematurely, or had breathing issues such as a cold. Therefore, CPSC urges parents of preemies, twins, babies in fragile health and those with low weight to use extra care and consult their pediatricians about using slings.

claire1976
21-03-2010, 13:28
I have used slings and tried a few out before buying one but to be honest I could never really get the hang of them and I honestly did not feel my son was safe in it. His head never seemed supported enough, I still used one hand as I was frightened of him falling out and he always looked squashed up in it. I must have only used it a handful of times and for breastfeeding in public only. Maybe I never got the hang of it but in the end I used a swaddle pod and my baby was much less fractious and I could place him in his crib to sleep and get on with my jobs handsfree!
I used a baby carrier for dog walking much more comfortably as my son was more upright and it felt more secure.

Mathom
21-03-2010, 16:11
The Mail article annoyed me because it never stated that the dangerous slings are the 'bag slings' - which if you look at some of them it ought to be blindingly obvious they aren't suitable for a little baby, too floppy (no support), too thick (overheating risk) and the fabric covers the baby up.

Most of the mothers I've seen using these slings use more traditional types, but you can imagine some new mums, not clued up on the topic, would maybe buy a bag sling (they look appealingly comfortable and there seems to be some mania for enclosing your baby in Stygian darkness at the moment, whether in an entirely hooded pram or bag sling) - and this was an ideal time to report on how most slings are fine and on how to use them correctly.

I think the media have it in for anything mothers do though. :roll:

RozeePozee
21-03-2010, 19:37
I think there's already a post but there's a sling meet at the NCT Bumps and Babes group St Andrews Nether Edge this Tuesday 10-12. I'm hoping to get some top tips from there.

Confess I have no idea what a "bag sling" is. We used a Baby Bjorn with our first but hoping to try some others with the twins.

honeyb35
21-03-2010, 21:40
they're the ones that resemble a handbag lol

doodle
22-03-2010, 12:04
My friend has used this sort of sling and is passing it on to me to try with my second. I'm now a bit worried about it. I tried other sort of slings with my first, like the wraparound type (hugabub) and the wilkinet (carrier type), but none of them seem to be designed for the larger busted ladies. I couldn't get either to fit so the bag one my friend is giving me seemed idea, as it carries lower down under the breasts.

I would like to go to the sling meet, but can't due to nursery, but will look out for future meets.

beckelina
23-03-2010, 12:55
I've used three sorts of slings with my baby - the baby bjorn which I found uncomfortable and awkward, the babasling http://www.thebabasling.co.uk/info which was fab for comforting her when she was newborn, and great for a short walk out now she's 9 months, and an ellaroo wrap which I love.
Babywearing has been great for me and her and we will carry it on as long as we're both happy and I'm physically able.

On the safety aspect, all it takes is reading some instructions and some common sense. A handy tip I was told - keep your baby close enough to kiss. Their face will then be exposed to air, and you'll be much more aware of how they are faring in the sling.

Mathom
23-03-2010, 15:34
Some official advice on this:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10165.html

monstermummy
23-03-2010, 17:18
Some official advice on this:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10165.html

Linked to in my post already ;)

Anyway, a response by UK sling companies here (http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=54942).

RozeePozee
24-03-2010, 11:30
Does anyone have a link to a photo of a "bag style" sling or a brand name? I think they might be what I call a "pouch sling" but I'm not sure - all the jargon can be quite confusing!

TIA

Mathom
24-03-2010, 12:53
Does anyone have a link to a photo of a "bag style" sling or a brand name? I think they might be what I call a "pouch sling" but I'm not sure - all the jargon can be quite confusing!

TIA

There's this in the news today which names a brand and shows a picture of the type to be avoided:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1260272/Infantino-baby-slings-recalled.html

Looking at them, they look OK for older babies if used right, but they're obviously too big for little ones. They aren't like anything I've seen any sling fans using.

RozeePozee
24-03-2010, 18:05
Thanks, Mathom. I can see why it's called a bag sling now. Never seen one before.