Any idea's anyone ? I have a number but no name or address ?

Why do you want to know the name and address? If it's a number you've picked up from 1471, and you don't recognise it, it's probably because somebody dialed your number by mistake. If it wasn't that, and the person wants to get in touch with you, I'm sure they'll ring again.

Originally posted by Ann_x
Why do you want to know the name and address? If it's a number you've picked up from 1471, and you don't recognise it, it's probably because somebody dialed your number by mistake. If it wasn't that, and the person wants to get in touch with you, I'm sure they'll ring again.

Nope not for that reason, I really wouldn't waste my time on that :)

You could phone the number and ask the peerson who answers for their address.

There is a way of getting an address from a phone number but for many reasons this information is not generally available.

If the number you are looking for is a landline and it is in Sheffield then the first two digits tell you what areas are covered by that number so you have 01142 88 and the 88 shows the area.

There are easier ways such as doing a search on the net for reverse directories but I have found this almost useless. Try it anyhow if you are that desperate.

I think that if the person whose number you are trying to trace had wanted you to have their address then they would have told you so maybe, f this is the case, you should respect that.

Dragon

Possibilities:

- Call the number and if you are lucky, they may answer it with their name/company. Stick 141 in front of the number if you want to avoid them doing a 1471 on you!

- Disks are available (UK Info is one) for sale with Telephone Directory information cross referenced with Electoral Roll Information. Some of these allow reverse searches.

- Put the number into Google and see if it comes up. If it is a Company, the chances of success are quite high.

Is it a local number?

Originally posted by Dragon
You could phone the number and ask the peerson who answers for their address.

There is a way of getting an address from a phone number but for many reasons this information is not generally available.

If the number you are looking for is a landline and it is in Sheffield then the first two digits tell you what areas are covered by that number so you have 01142 88 and the 88 shows the area.


Why do most Sheffielders think their code is 01142? It's 0114!

The amount of outer-Londoners that believe the code is 0208 as opposed to 020 8 is out-of-this-world

I can't really use 0114 as the example, so I'll use 01634 (Medway/mid-Kent).

01634-7 - Strood
01634 - 8 - Gillingham
01634-2 - Hoo

Or my area: 01322

01322 - 2 - Dartford
01322 - 3 - Slade Green
01322 - 4 - Erith
01322 - 5 - Crayford
01322 - 6 - The Gravesend end of Dartford...

Originally posted by amhudson119


Why do most Sheffielders think their code is 01142? It's 0114!



It is historical.

We used to have a 6 digit number and an area code of 0742.

When 0114 came along and our number had a 2 added to it to make a 7-digit number, the confusion was natural.

A lot of people still think of the 6 digits as "their" number and anything that has to go in front of it must be the area code!

Originally posted by amhudson119

The amount of outer-Londoners that believe the code is 0208 as opposed to 020 8 is out-of-this-world



Does it really matter how people say their numbers?

Originally posted by cgksheff
It is historical.

We used to have a 6 digit number and an area code of 0742.

When 0114 came along and our number had a 2 added to it to make a 7-digit number, the confusion was natural.

A lot of people still think of the 6 digits as "their" number and anything that has to go in front of it must be the area code!

Only major cities have seven digits, whereas smaller towns are six digits.

So before it was 0114 212 2345, it wasn't 014 212 2345?

The addition of the 1 after the 0 in the code is relatively recent.

I remember when London was 01 - etc, and then 081/071, then 0181/0171 then 020 8/020 7!

:loopy:

Originally posted by spyro2000
Does it really matter how people say their numbers?

But if you included 8 of 020 8 as part of the code, and only rang 3012678, as opposed to 83012678 you won't get through, as people on the same area code do not need to dial their code (namely 020).

Originally posted by amhudson119
But if you included 8 of 020 8 as part of the code, and only rang 3012678, as opposed to 83012678 you won't get through, as people on the same area code do not need to dial their code (namely 020).

true, but surely anyone who actually lives in london and is phoning locally knows that they need to start a local call by entering 8xxxxxxx. Is this not the case? Surely people are not that thick down there.

Originally posted by spyro2000
true, but surely anyone who actually lives in london and is phoning locally knows that they need to start a local call by entering 8xxxxxxx. Is this not the case? Surely people are not that thick down there.

Or 7xxxxxxx for anywhere north of Deptford.

But reeling the number off on the 'phone to someone that is not local as 0208 312 2555 - ah yes, I've found the flaw - they'd have to add 020 in anyway......

:help: ;) :D

Originally posted by amhudson119
Or 7xxxxxxx for anywhere north of Deptford.

But reeling the number off on the 'phone to someone that is not local as 0208 312 2555 - ah yes, I've found the flaw - they'd have to add 020 in anyway......

:help: ;) :D

lol so really and truly it doesnt matter whatsoever :D :clap:

Unfortunately you may find it impossible to obtain a UK address from a phone number because there was a court case on this very issue some years ago. I think the case involved 192.com which prior to that offered reverse phone to address service on CD Roms. As a result of this decision, BT and all other UK directory enquiry services are no longer able to provide this information.

thanks for that.

So, can anyone help me at all ?

Try www.b4u.co.uk I got it off the forum and very successfully found some people I'd given up on after years of searching.

Wow! All this about numbers. I used to say the dial code was 0114 and then got reprimanded for it as all sheffield numbers apparently begin with 01142 followed by 6 digits. It would be a different matter if different areas of sheffield started 01143 or 01146 but they do not so I'll go along with the code being whatever. It is no big deal.

The last six digits are what tell you (and I do not mean you inparticular) about the address. For this reason the 01142 is un-necessary.

Dragon

Originally posted by Lindseyw
thanks for that.

So, can anyone help me at all ?

Well ERRRRMMMM NO :loopy:

I'll second what burnt toast said - No.

Seems like you are not ready to do a bit of work for yourself.

Why are you so desperate for this address anyhow? C'mon - fess up.

Dragon

Originally posted by Dragon
Wow! All this about numbers. I used to say the dial code was 0114 and then got reprimanded for it as all Sheffield numbers apparently begin with 01142 followed by 6 digits. It would be a different matter if different areas of Sheffield started 01143 or 01146 but they do not so I'll go along with the code being whatever. It is no big deal.

The last six digits are what tell you (and I do not mean you in particular) about the address. For this reason the 01142 is un-necessary.

Dragon

But if I'm ringing a Sheffield number from Sheffield I have to dial 2xx xxxx. So the 0114 is the Sheffield code, 2xx tells you which bit of Sheffield (266 for Broomhill / Ranmoor / Crookes, for example) and the last four digits are the subscriber's number. Even if I'm ringing next door, i still have to dial 2xx xxxx

I agreed with the point about the dial code already, and then I said why I included the leading 2 as part of the code. Still remains that the important numbers are the last 6 as these identify your location.

When answering requests for my home number and the dial code sepertae I alwasy say 0114 as the code by force of habit. Lets hoipe its a long time before they change it. I remember 0742 - just - and now I wonder how I could have ever remembered it inthe first place. So there you go.

Dragon

if it's a company you could just try sticking the number in the google search engine. it usually brings up the details.

I used to work for atelephone co and we used to some times use this if we were having problems with a customer disputing calls.

if you Pm me and tell me what you want to find out and why I might be able to help you further.

Originally posted by Dragon
I'll second what burnt toast said - No.

Seems like you are not ready to do a bit of work for yourself.

Why are you so desperate for this address anyhow? C'mon - fess up.

Dragon

Hang on just a sec here - i was simply asking a question, not wanting people to have a go at me for christs sake.

If you really want to know it's because my friend suspects her husband to be having an affair (again) and a number has appeared on her BT phone bill alot at the times only he was in.

Also just for the record i have spent a week trying to find some method myself so please don't tell me I am not ready to do a bit of work myself.

Just phone up during the day when the husband is likely to be out preferably just after 8am and at various times during the day to find out whether the number is an office or private address. Anyone with a few wits should be able to fabricate some sort of story, eg sorry wrong number and put the phone down.

Done that Wendy, we know it's a female voice, we've done the wrong number thing too.

But if you just said 020..then you could not differentiate between an outer-London and an inner-London number. That is why people say 0208 or 0207..or whatever it is now.

If that is the case...I would just phone the number and ask straight out...hopefully the 'other half' would answer and then there would be some explaining to do...if it was true. yeah, I say ring at tea time. If this woman is married and her hubby answers...GREAT! Ask for their name. Don't be afraid. It is not your friend who has done anything wrong...if anyone has done anything wrong that is.

It does rather depend upon what sort of outcome your friend wants.

Two ideas which come to mind are:

Assuming it's a woman in a married relationship phone very early say about 7.30am when its all pandemonium with the kids etc.

Alternatively if I were your friend I'd write a letter to BT, stating the number appears on the bill, no-one has any contacts with that number, the cost of all these calls are in dispute and accordingly have been deducted from payment of the bill. The letter should add that the account holder places the onus of responsibility on BT to prove these calls have been made and are known to the bill holder or any member of their household.


Before posting the letter by recorded delivery to BT Accounts, I'd then show the letter to the husband to comment on the content of the complaint.

Originally posted by Dragon
Wow! All this about numbers. I used to say the dial code was 0114 and then got reprimanded for it as all sheffield numbers apparently begin with 01142 followed by 6 digits. It would be a different matter if different areas of sheffield started 01143 or 01146 but they do not so I'll go along with the code being whatever. It is no big deal.

The last six digits are what tell you (and I do not mean you inparticular) about the address. For this reason the 01142 is un-necessary.

Dragon No, no - the 2 is needed!
0114 - 2-- ----

I don't think they mean it is not needed when dialling...but when stating the area code number. The area code is 0114...the phone number (as those who live in Sheffield dial) begins with a 2 (7 digit number now).

Surely any bloke with any intelligence whatsoever would realise that you get an itemised bill and that the number will appear on it as long as the call costs more than 40p or whatever the cut-off is. And then he'd use his mobile instead.

Seriously though, why not just ask him what the number is? There may be a perfectly simple explanation. Maybe your friend has got a bad case of suspiciousitis. In any case, if you find the address, what is she going to do then - storm round and confront the brazen hussy?

Originally posted by metalman

Surely any bloke with any intelligence whatsoever
Isnt this asking for too much? :D


Seriously though, why not just ask him what the number is? There may be a perfectly simple explanation. Joking aside, seems a good idea. Is there any reason why not?

Originally posted by Lindseyw
Hang on just a sec here - i was simply asking a question, not wanting people to have a go at me for christs sake.

If you really want to know it's because my friend suspects her husband to be having an affair (again) and a number has appeared on her BT phone bill alot at the times only he was in.

Also just for the record i have spent a week trying to find some method myself so please don't tell me I am not ready to do a bit of work myself.

Lindseyw - please do not think I am having a go at you, but one of the reasons that it is not made easy to trace adresses and names from telephone numbers is to protect people's privacy and also for safety reasons. I can remeber at least two well documented cases where addresses have been illegally traced from numbers and it has resulted in people being tracked down and murdered.

Heres an idea.

Get your 'friend' to phone up theis number when her husband is at home but phone from her mobile, and make sure she has got 'Ring back when free' active'....

When this person picks up the phone, phone the same number again from the house phone, it will be engaged, so you can now put the phone down, and in a short while the house phone will ring as normal. Get the bloke to pick up the phone just like a normal call.

Once this is done, listen in to how the converstation goes, look for body language etc. If he says "oh it was a wrong number" then you know something is up as it wasnt actually her that called the house anyway, it was the other way round so you would know he is lying.

Case closed ;)

Originally posted by spyro2000
Heres an idea.

Get your 'friend' to phone up theis number when her husband is at home but phone from her mobile, and make sure she has got 'Ring back when free' active'....

When this person picks up the phone, phone the same number again from the house phone, it will be engaged, so you can now put the phone down, and in a short while the house phone will ring as normal. Get the bloke to pick up the phone just like a normal call.

Once this is done, listen in to how the converstation goes, look for body language etc. If he says "oh it was a wrong number" then you know something is up as it wasnt actually her that called the house anyway, it was the other way round so you would know he is lying.

Case closed ;) :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Good thinking spyro2000. Maybe you should change your name to columbo2000:D

Originally posted by spyro2000
Heres an idea.

Get your 'friend' to phone up theis number when her husband is at home but phone from her mobile, and make sure she has got 'Ring back when free' active'....

When this person picks up the phone, phone the same number again from the house phone, it will be engaged, so you can now put the phone down, and in a short while the house phone will ring as normal. Get the bloke to pick up the phone just like a normal call.

Once this is done, listen in to how the converstation goes, look for body language etc. If he says "oh it was a wrong number" then you know something is up as it wasnt actually her that called the house anyway, it was the other way round so you would know he is lying.

Case closed ;)

or just ask her bloke what the number is? then if he gives an excuse...put it on speaker fone and let it ring....get him to say...`hi its dave....(or whatever)' and see what she says.

and if its `again' then she shud av dumped him the first time

Originally posted by MTheo
or just ask her bloke what the number is? then if he gives an excuse...put it on speaker fone and let it ring....get him to say...`hi its dave....(or whatever)' and see what she says.

and if its `again' then she shud av dumped him the first time

....or just dump him anyway as theres obviously no trust in the relationship :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Homer Simpson
welcome to dumpsville, population.....you!

:rolleyes: a great man once said

Originally posted by metalman

Seriously though, why not just ask him what the number is? There may be a perfectly simple explanation.

She has done - he's denied it



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Nope he's done it before

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Erm.... yup :)

Originally posted by drolnhoj
Lindseyw - please do not think I am having a go at you, but one of the reasons that it is not made easy to trace adresses and names from telephone numbers is to protect people's privacy and also for safety reasons. I can remeber at least two well documented cases where addresses have been illegally traced from numbers and it has resulted in people being tracked down and murdered.

Totally agree with you, and I dont think you are having a go - the other one was though xx

Originally posted by spyro2000
Heres an idea.

Get your 'friend' to phone up theis number when her husband is at home but phone from her mobile, and make sure she has got 'Ring back when free' active'....

When this person picks up the phone, phone the same number again from the house phone, it will be engaged, so you can now put the phone down, and in a short while the house phone will ring as normal. Get the bloke to pick up the phone just like a normal call.

Once this is done, listen in to how the converstation goes, look for body language etc. If he says "oh it was a wrong number" then you know something is up as it wasnt actually her that called the house anyway, it was the other way round so you would know he is lying.

Case closed ;)


Bloody Clever !!!!

i'll suggest it !!

Don' t let her waste her time pondering it then. No need to be subtle. Just get to it. If nothing is going on then he can hardly be cross at her cos he has given her reason to be susp in the past. If something IS going on then whatever his reaction...get rid of bad rubbish. Who cares what his reaction is?

Just one question does the house phone have caller display in which case wouldnt he recognise the mobile phone number?

Originally posted by Lindseyw
She has done - he's denied it

denied what? someone HAS been on the fone....and calls HAVE been made....is he denying the fact that they even happened? sounds odd to me..the whole situation.

if there is a itemized bill then he cant deny the calls if they are the only two people in the house and she hasent done them.


`did you make these calls'

'no'

'well i didnt so what are all these calls to the same number'

'i dont know'

'bull****, now heres my right hand and theres the door'