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Unregistered
17-08-2005, 14:58
The Council Offices at Grenoside, at the junction of Salt Box Lane, Halifax Road/Penistone Road and opposite the Mormon Church, have now been demolished.

A Planning Application dated 26th July 2005 has been received by Sheffield Council for the :

Erection of 14 X 3 storey dwellinghouses and garages.

Erection of 8 flats in a 4 storey block.

Erection of 18 flats in 3 x 3 storey blocks.

Construction of associated car parking accommodation.

angelgirluk
17-08-2005, 16:07
I have to say I am pretty peed off that they knocked this building down - surely they could have used the building for something else?

A Nursing home or something like that?!

Not happy about it at all...

Unregistered
17-08-2005, 17:04
Originally posted by angelgirluk
I have to say I am pretty peed off that they knocked this building down - surely they could have used the building for something else?

A Nursing home or something like that?!

Not happy about it at all...


The Council will have made a tidy sum for the land.

Less council tax for us to pay next year ???

. . . we stand a better chance of catching swamp fever.

Abdul
17-08-2005, 17:51
Originally posted by angelgirluk
I have to say I am pretty peed off that they knocked this building down - surely they could have used the building for something else?

Was this the building up from the road from Hellsborough footy ground, near the junction of Halifax Rod, Grenoside (I think)

Yes, that was a nice building :(

Annoni_mouse
17-08-2005, 18:08
Originally posted by Abdul
Was this the building up from the road from Hellsborough footy ground, near the junction of Halifax Rod, Grenoside (I think)

Yes, that was a nice building :(

Thats the one,Abdul.At the junction of saltbox lane.It was indeed a nice building,but im afraid its demolition is endemic of the way the village is going these days:(

SallyW
05-09-2005, 21:50
Evening all,

Rumour has it that the former council offices at Grenoside was a listed building...

... Listed buildings can't be knocked down!

Apparently, this was only discovered after the deal was done and the building demolished.

What a scam - it's appauling.

:rant: :suspect: :suspect:

Abdul
05-09-2005, 21:55
Originally posted by SallyW
Evening all,

Rumour has it that the former council offices at Grenoside was a listed building...

... Listed buildings can't be knocked down!

Apparently, this was only discovered after the deal was done and the building demolished.

What a scam - it's appauling.

:rant: :suspect: :suspect:

That's nowt!

Longley College, was built on the former site of the Brushes building of Firth Park School, whioch was also a listed building.

It 'mysteriously' burned down during the firefighters strike a few years ago. How convenient, especially as it was just minutes away from Elm Lane Fire Station :suspect:

wiseman
05-09-2005, 22:02
i hope thats not a dig at firefighters :mad:

Abdul
05-09-2005, 22:04
Originally posted by wiseman
i hope thats not a dig at firefighters :mad:

No, it isn't... :nono:

SallyW
05-09-2005, 22:19
Maybe we just enjoy a good old conspiracy Abdul.

Abdul
05-09-2005, 22:21
Originally posted by SallyW
Maybe we just enjoy a good old conspiracy Abdul.

I suppose so.

'scuse me, there's a knock at the door...

If I don't come back, be a dear and call the Police...

angelgirluk
05-09-2005, 22:36
Yes, it was a listed building :(

Plans were at first to turn it into a nursing home, so I was amazed when I went past and saw the first chunk taken right out of the side of building... within a week it was gone!

VERY BAD!!

hj dary
06-09-2005, 06:36
Its funny. I havent been up there for ages but had to drive through Grenoside yesterday and was shocked to see it had gone.

It was a fantastic building.

Why is every little piece of land in this city being turned into flats?

RazorSHarp
06-09-2005, 07:37
My son goes swimming at the building to the side of this (House of Elliot) a couple of the parents there said this was a listed building and the council knew it was prior to selling it as a few other interested parties had enquired about the property beofre the current developer, but had withdrawn after being told of the listing!!

cgksheff
06-09-2005, 07:54
Originally posted by SallyW

Rumour has it that the former council offices at Grenoside was a listed building...

... Listed buildings can't be knocked down!


Please permit me to repeat myself yet another time on this forum.

Listing a building does not guarantee protection from demolition or conversion.

It simply means that you have to go to a higher level of authority, and with stronger justifications than normal, in order to get permission.
"Listed Building Consent" is obtainable from the Local Planning Authority or in some circumstances, The Secretary of State.

RazorSHarp
06-09-2005, 09:14
Originally posted by cgksheff
Please permit me to repeat myself yet another time on this forum.

Listing a building does not guarantee protection from demolition or conversion.

It simply means that you have to go to a higher level of authority, and with stronger justifications than normal, in order to get permission.
"Listed Building Consent" is obtainable from the Local Planning Authority or in some circumstances, The Secretary of State.

Whats the point of listing a building then? sounds like a waste of time if it doesn't protect it from greedy local authorities:loopy:

How can you protect a building from demolision? is there such a thing as a preservation order?

burnttoast
06-09-2005, 09:44
Does this mean then they can knock the park hill flats down and get rid of this eyesore:thumbsup: :hihi: :hihi:I wonder!Come to think of it .What about all the historical buildings they knocked down for the supatram..It all goes to show they can knock anything down whenever they like.:rant: :mad:

angelgirluk
06-09-2005, 10:08
cgksheff - you must forgive us. How awful that you had to repeat something "yet again" on this forum!

cgksheff
06-09-2005, 11:25
You're forgiven!:D

Tony
06-09-2005, 11:27
From what I understand it wasn't a listed building, but there were moves by various people to get it listed to prevent its redevelopment. Extreme NIMBYism if you like.

Move along, nothing to see here ;)


To be honest, it was a very plain municipal office (formerly the HQ of Wortley RDC I think) with a bit less than zero architectural interest. It wasn't even very old. A prime candidate for demolition in my book.

Abdul
12-09-2005, 12:05
Originally posted by Tony
From what I understand it wasn't a listed building, but there were moves by various people to get it listed to prevent its redevelopment.

Originally posted by Tony
To be honest, it was a very plain municipal office (formerly the HQ of Wortley RDC I think) with a bit less than zero architectural interest. It wasn't even very old. A prime candidate for demolition in my book.

Eh? However little you think of the old building, it was sympathetic to its surroundings.

Unless you can confirm the new development will fit in to the character of Grenoside, then I can understand the worries of locals.


Originally posted by Tony
Extreme NIMBYism if you like.

Is this another attempt to shed your lefty image? I believe the correct term is 'concerned residents' :nono:

Tony
12-09-2005, 15:34
Me? Lefty image? Surely you jest?

As for the old office, in what way was it sympathetic? That junction is a mish mash of all sorts of buildings, houses, shops, car pitches, churches, of all styles from all periods over the last hundred years. I fail to see how anything would be worse (or at the least as nondescript), and hopefully there is an opportunity for something better!

Abdul
13-09-2005, 11:50
Originally posted by Tony
Me? Lefty image? Surely you jest?

As for the old office, in what way was it sympathetic?

I'd be able to answer you, if the building was still there...

Tony
13-09-2005, 12:10
Errr... so how did you formulate this opinion;

Originally posted by Abdul
However little you think of the old building, it was sympathetic to its surroundings.

:nono:

Abdul
13-09-2005, 15:11
Originally posted by Tony
Errr... so how did you formulate this opinion

You see, I had an incredible out-of-body-experience last night, in which I travelled back in time a few months ago while the building was still standing, and...

But seriously... I have driven past the building many times, as shown in my first post on this topic:

Originally posted by Abdul
Was this the building up from the road from Hellsborough footy ground, near the junction of Halifax Rod, Grenoside (I think)

:nono: (x 2)

cloud
13-09-2005, 19:27
Originally posted by Tony
From what I understand it wasn't a listed building, but there were moves by various people to get it listed to prevent its redevelopment. Extreme NIMBYism if you like.

Move along, nothing to see here ;)


To be honest, it was a very plain municipal office (formerly the HQ of Wortley RDC I think) with a bit less than zero architectural interest. It wasn't even very old. A prime candidate for demolition in my book.

Well that's your view and you are entitled to it, just as many of us feel that the building was attractive not only in its design but also in how it was positioned and situated. By destroying all that is pleasing to the eye and that which contributed to the general atmosphere of an area you begin to damage the psychological wellbeing of the local community. Of course those who stand to make huge amounts of money out of such schemes will no doubt believe this to be clap trap. However, many studies have been made in academic circles on the social impact of anonymous and alienating developments. The high rise craze in the 1960's is but one and quite crude example.