These are just a few buildings that are planned for the city centre. what are your opinions on them ? love them or hate them ?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1711

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2303

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2878

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1874

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1319

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2329

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2331

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=699

oh and i almost forgot

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?ref=200&idi=Urban+Splash+To+Make+Sheffield+Waves&self=nse&selfidi=200UrbanSplashToMakeSheffieldWaves_pic1.jp g&no=1

click on the pictures to the left of the screen to get a better view

Wow, it will be just like living in Leeds.

Originally posted by nick2
Wow, it will be just like living in Leeds.

...but without the homeless people

Originally posted by Abdul
...but without the homeless people

You got your head in the sand????

LOVE 'EM!!

Most of the scheme seem to blend old & new really well.

Are they all approved schemes do you know?

Originally posted by RazorSHarp
You got your head in the sand????

¿Qué?

Originally posted by Unisol
LOVE 'EM!!

Most of the scheme seem to blend old & new really well.

Are they all approved schemes do you know?

if you look on this page its shows you a list of buildings that are proposed, complete, pre-planning, and approved for some reason ive found website contradict each other when it comes to things like this, on some website the approved buildings are listed as proposed or cancelled so its hard to know which one to belive. Hopefully they'll all get built

Originally posted by eighty4
if you look on this page its shows you a list of buildings that are proposed, complete, pre-planning, and approved for some reason ive found website contradict each other when it comes to things like this, on some website the approved buildings are listed as proposed or cancelled so its hard to know which one to belive. Hopefully they'll all get built

The page i was refering to is

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/bdbsearch.php?city=Sheffield

Looks very promising! I'd love to see some investment in Sheffield. When I go to other major cities (Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle mostly) I feel that Sheffield is being left behind somewhat.

Good to see the city centre getting a revamp. When the works done around the winter gardens, I reckon it will look great!

BTW, anybody know whats being built next door to West Bar Police station??

I like most of 'em, but I think the "Sheffield Pinnacle" needs a bit more work :P

Also, the furnival gate picture doesn't make sense; they have removed the tall building that's already there, and nudged it to the left. :confused:

Originally posted by benclements2
Looks very promising! I'd love to see some investment in Sheffield. When I go to other major cities (Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle mostly) I feel that Sheffield is being left behind somewhat.

Good to see the city centre getting a revamp. When the works done around the winter gardens, I reckon it will look great!

BTW, anybody know whats being built next door to West Bar Police station??

yep these 2

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1319

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2838

note that it says all the flats were sold out in 3 days ! 117 in 3 days !

Originally posted by Bully_Beef
I like most of 'em, but I think the "Sheffield Pinnacle" needs a bit more work :P

Also, the furnival gate picture doesn't make sense; they have removed the tall building that's already there, and nudged it to the left. :confused:

i dont think the pinnacel will be built cos it was supposed to be near the supercasino we were supposed to get at don valley, imagine going in an observation tower in don valley ? how crap would that be ? a beautiful view over blackburn meadows mmmm i can almost smell it. I think the pinnacle wouold be a good idea but to put it outside the city centre is completly illogical to me

just found anouther page

http://www.hunshelf.co.uk/impactsheffield.htm

I see that Cala Homes "Eclipse" at the junction of St Mary's gate/Ecclesall Rd has been abandoned.Not a surprise there.

Originally posted by eighty4
yep these 2

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1319

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2838

note that it says all the flats were sold out in 3 days ! 117 in 3 days !

Blimey! Bet the vast majority of them were snapped up by those ruthless property developer type people? Grrrr, dont like them much. (There is absolutely NO jealousy there at all!)

I mean, what sort of life is it? Buy in cheap, couple of months work, double your money. Or, buy in cheap (bulk), rent out at mortgage + 25%. Honestly!!!!

Hanover House isn't going ahead for starters.

Sheffield's a great place to be at the minute, the developments have really boosted the city.

It's a great place, there's no nicer urban site than the lights on and the fountains running in the Peace Gardens on a warm summer night.

We should be proud! Just re-develop the moor and we'll be laughing.

Originally posted by Irwell
Just re-develop the moor and we'll be laughing.

Let's not forget the entire Castle Market area - that needs doing up too.

Now it would be nice to be like Leeds and have their 52-storey Venture Tower, 47-storey Criterion Place, 40-storey City One, 38-storey Monkbridge Forge, 32-storey Bridgewater Place, 31-storey Globe Road etc.

that big skyscraper got turned down 'cos it would cast a shadow on the plants in the winter gardens according to some councillors.

i hope said councillors walk with a stoop lest they block the sunlight to the gutterweeds...:rant: :hihi:

This city is like a bloody building site,we have more crains than houses,why does it all have to be done at the same time?

Originally posted by firecracker
Now it would be nice to be like Leeds and have their 52-storey Venture Tower, 47-storey Criterion Place, 40-storey City One, 38-storey Monkbridge Forge, 32-storey Bridgewater Place, 31-storey Globe Road etc.

Exactly, with enough tall buildings we might manage to block all the sunlight out AND obscure all the views off the hills, sounds great.

I've nothing against new buildings but they have to be on a human scale, like the rest of the city is, Sheffield is not like Leeds, Leeds is flat, tall buildings work there, here they wouldn't look right.

Most of the buildings I most admire are not huge towers :

http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/m/images/museum_wrigh.gugg.2.lg.jpg
http://faculty.evansville.edu/rl29/art105/img/gehry_bilbao.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/teoria1/images/Copy_of_HMODER101.jpg
http://www.hansgate.co.uk/wallpapers/places/london/british_museum_great_court_3.jpg
http://www.vitruvius.com.br/forum/noticiario/Filomena_02.jpg
http://www.yanous.com/pratique/tourisme/img/Berlin/Coupole.jpg
http://www.earth-photography.com/photos/Countries/England/England_London_CanaryWharf_Underground.jpg

Nice photos nick2. But why was a photo of Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater missing? :suspect:

I entirely agree with you nick2. Just look at some of the high rise blocks of flats which stick out like a sore thumb on the hills on the outskirts. Full marks to the planning department on how to mar a beautiful landscape.

Originally posted by redrobbo
Nice photos nick2. But why was a photo of Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater missing? :suspect:

I excluded it because it's not realy a public building, though it is my favourite building by him.

Like I said earlier when you are stood in the middle of Leeds all you can see is Leeds, so they need tall buildings to rise above the general "swamp" of low-rise shops etc. to give you something at actually look at. When you are stood in the middle of Sheffield there are more interesting things to look at than the buildings, like the hills countryside beyond the city.

Originally posted by firecracker
Hanover House isn't going ahead for starters.

I wouldn't fancy living next to that substation anyway!

Originally posted by firecracker
Hanover House isn't going ahead for starters.

Apparently,it said in the Telegraph the other week,that the developers of Hanover House were re submitting another planning proposal to develop the whole corner and not just the site of the old Merc Benz showroom.

Originally posted by SheffBloke
Apparently,it said in the Telegraph the other week,that the developers of Hanover House were re submitting another planning proposal to develop the whole corner and not just the site of the old Merc Benz showroom.

I bet whoever has bought the land is very worried, I wouldn't want to be left with a derelict car showroom next to a busy roundabout/dual carriageway and a huge electricity sub-station, not exactly a desirable plot without planning permission.

Originally posted by nick2
I bet whoever has bought the land is very worried, I wouldn't want to be left with a derelict car showroom next to a busy roundabout/dual carriageway and a huge electricity sub-station, not exactly a desirable plot without planning permission.

They recieved planning permission for the original plans,but have gone back to the drawing board and are planning something a lot bigger over a wider area.

They need to get a move on, with the number of housing projects in the city at the moment it's bound to reach a point soon where supply is greater than demand.

Originally posted by nick2
I excluded it because it's not realy a public building, though it is my favourite building by him.

Like I said earlier when you are stood in the middle of Leeds all you can see is Leeds, so they need tall buildings to rise above the general "swamp" of low-rise shops etc. to give you something at actually look at. When you are stood in the middle of Sheffield there are more interesting things to look at than the buildings, like the hills countryside beyond the city.

If you want to look at hills and countryside go and live in the country - simple.

The 'skyscrapers' planned in Leeds look amazing!

I tend to agree with Nick2 also. I'm all for the development of Sheffield and the city centre but it has to be sympathetic to the few nice buildings that already exist and in proportion. I'm all for demolising 'the Moor' and starting again but am afraid I don't think it's going to happen. Whiist we're doing that, we could also demolish Park Hill but then...I don't believe that can be done as somebody (resisited the temptation to use stronger word) slapped a preservation order or some such thing as I understand it.

Mind you, the apparent continued demand for all of these 'city dwellings' continues to baffle me.

Originally posted by Cardinal
Whiist we're doing that, we could also demolish Park Hill but then...I don't believe that can be done as somebody (resisited the temptation to use stronger word) slapped a preservation order or some such thing as I understand it.

It was the Labour Council who listed the building in the 1990's. Although listed buildings can be demolished in special circumstances.

However, Labour are now spending £40m on cleaning it up to sell some as 'luxery' flats and keep others for Council housing :loopy:

Really?????????????????????? They just look derelict to me. Assume they'll clean them up a bit and put some of that nice cladding on the outside then. ;)

Exactley, its pathetic.

It is. But then, I can't say I rate the council particularly highly. I even resorted to writing to the Telegraph last year over the Ikea and city regeneration debacle. Got published too!!

Anyone know what's happening on the site of all the old flats which have been knocked down near St Phiips roundabout/ club? (and soz if I've missed earlier reference to this)

Originally posted by goose
If you want to look at hills and countryside go and live in the country - simple.

The 'skyscrapers' planned in Leeds look amazing!

The Chrysler building is amazing, the Petronas Towers are amazing, the "Gerkin" in London is amazing, the ones in Leeds are just big blocks or concrete, maximum floor space (and therefore profit) at minimum cost, but, each to their own.

If you like Leeds so much, go and live there - simple.

As for Park Hill, once the flats are tarted-up they will be worth a small fortune, the council arn't as daft as we like to think.

Originally posted by nick2
The Chrysler building is amazing, the Petronas Towers are amazing, the "Gerkin" in London is amazing, the ones in Leeds are just big blocks or concrete, maximum floor space (and therefore profit) at minimum cost, but, each to their own.

If you like Leeds so much, go and live there - simple.

As for Park Hill, once the flats are tarted-up they will be worth a small fortune, the council arn't as daft as we like to think.

If you actually look at the proposed buildings they are not concrete at all. They look a bit like shards of glass coming out the ground - nothing like we have here and very stylish. There is a similar one already in Manchester and it looks impressive.

Sheffield needs to advance and better itself, i would love to have all our countryside parks and communties but with a modern state of the art city centre as well. We can have the best of both worlds!

If you want to live in the 1960's why dont you buy a flat in the renovated Park Hill, you could sit and look at the 'hills and countryside' all day then. Although how on earth you think the flats will be worth a small fortune when they are next to council flats is beyond me.

Originally posted by goose
If you want to live in the 1960's why dont you buy a flat in the renovated Park Hill, you could sit and look at the 'hills and countryside' all day then.

You completely missunderstand my point fo view, I'm not against modern buildings, I'm against modern buildings that will look as shoddy ten years from now as Park Hill does now. Sticking a big 40 storey tower in the middle of Sheffield is not going to make it look any better, it will look stupid.
My reference to the countryside was just as an example of what architecture in Sheffield has to blend in with, you might rather look at a "huge shard of glass" but not everyone wants too. I'm sure that when the Eggbox was built there were people saying exactly the same as you are now.

Originally posted by goose
Although how on earth you think the flats will be worth a small fortune when they are next to council flats is beyond me.

Have you read-up about what is going to happen to Park Hill ?
Once it has been renovated by Urban Splash it will be the place to live, council flats nearby or not (some people don't still cling to that outdated view BTW)

Absolutely; once Park Hill is renovated they will be worth a small fortune. It's the largest listed building in Europe, based on the stark architecture of Le Corbusier. Next to the tram route and with excellent access to the city, railway and the motorway; they'll be something special once they're gutted and are given the full makeover.

Originally posted by nick2
Have you read-up about what is going to happen to Park Hill ?

Yes i have. Urban Splash are going to spend £40m doing up the interiors of the flats, making repairs and cleaning the building up. A waste of money in my view.

At the moment they are all council flats, about 1000. The development will retain one third council flats, have one third luxery flats and one third 'business units' - whatever they are!

None of this gets away from the fact that the builing is an eyesore and an embarrasment to Sheffield - this development won't change that. It will only tart the buildings and flats up.

I don't think people will want luxery flats there because, amongst other things (1) the reputation of the area, (2) they would be living next door to council flats and (3) there will be lots of competition for city centre luxery flats when they finish the development.

As for your comment about future buildings in Leeds turning into Park Hills and Eggboxes. Have a look for youself and make up your own mind

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images.php?se=nse&ref=3178&idi=West+Point%2C+Tower+1

I would be surprised if don't agree that these buildings look amazing!

Originally posted by nick2
Once it has been renovated by Urban Splash it will be the place to live, council flats nearby or not (some people don't still cling to that outdated view BTW)

The type of people who buy/rent luxery flats do not want to live next to Council tenants. What planet are you on?

Goose has a point re: proximity etc. They may sell initially but, like all property, there will be a definite ceiling on any profit to be made and that will very probably be less than similar dvpts elsewhere.

Not city centre dvpt but I still can't believe that someone is building new flats on Herries Road (on the site of the old petrol station just past the railway bridge) and they want around £100k for them. Eh!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Originally posted by goose
The type of people who buy/rent luxery flats do not want to live next to Council tenants. What planet are you on?

Well, it's certainly not planet "lets build a 50 storey skyscraper next to the town hall, that will look cool" :)

I think you are projecting your own petty predudices onto the entire house buying public there, thankfully not everyone has that attitude. If the apartments are reasonably priced I think you will find plenty of people will buy them.

My nannan lived on park hill when i was kid so a lot of my childhood memories are on there, so ive developed a love hate relationship for it, the thing that confuses me is why a developer would spend £40 million on and old block of flats rather then build a completely new building from scratch, the macdonald hotel in the piece gardens was built for £20 million after all

Park Hill is much bigger than the new hotel so it would cost a lot more than £40 million to build an equivalent sized building.

I think the new renevated flats will be very popular, especially when you consider the size of them, compared to the new apartments being built they are huge inside, and the location, practically next to the train station/bus station/city centre.

Originally posted by nick2
Well, it's certainly not planet "lets build a 50 storey skyscraper next to the town hall, that will look cool" :)

I think you are projecting your own petty predudices onto the entire house buying public there, thankfully not everyone has that attitude. If the apartments are reasonably priced I think you will find plenty of people will buy them.

So you think that the sort of people who buy luxery apartments in the City centre would be happy with living next door to a Council tenant!

I would have no problem with it myself, its just that i am realistic enough to know that the Park Hill plan dosent stack up.

You say that people will buy the flats as long as they are reasonably priced. Luxery flats in the City Centre do not fall into this category. Wake up! :help:

goose,

what makes you feel the need to prefix the word apartment with the word 'luxury'? I suspect Urban Splash will be marketing these flats towards 'ordinary' (whatever that means) people - probably young professional people who are looking to buy a reaosnably sized place, good location, for an affordable price. There are lots of people in Sheffield who fit this profile!

If you think this won't work close to council owned housing, consider West One next to Devonshire Green, which is probably the most comparable development, and is cheek in jowl with council owned housing on all sides.

Originally posted by goose
You say that people will buy the flats as long as they are reasonably priced. Luxery flats in the City Centre do not fall into this category. Wake up! :help:

No they don't at the moment, which is why I said they would sell well IF THEY ARE reasonably priced.

I don't think they will be selling for "luxury" prices (whatever luxury is) as there are so many flats there they will be able to sell them a bit cheaper I think (obviously I dont' have your insight in to modern architecture, building renovation, the housing market and what the population thinks)

Originally posted by RobertChiat
I suspect Urban Splash will be marketing these flats towards 'ordinary' (whatever that means) people - probably young professional people who are looking to buy a reaosnably sized place, good location, for an affordable price.

They don't in Manchester. I can't imagine them dabbling in cheaper apartments if they're used to high returns.

Originally posted by alchresearch
They don't in Manchester. I can't imagine them dabbling in cheaper apartments if they're used to high returns.

In Manchester do they do mixed private and council developments ? And if so are they successfull ?

what do you base that on? Urban splash has been involved in all sorts of projects, including 'affordable' homes.

Originally posted by RobertChiat
If you think this won't work close to council owned housing, consider West One next to Devonshire Green, which is probably the most comparable development, and is cheek in jowl with council owned housing on all sides.

The main differnce is that the private flats and Council flats would be literaly next door to each other.

West One is its own complex, and whilst it is next to some social housing it is also close to other flats and part of West Street. Park Hill is stuck out on its own.

Originally posted by nick2
No they don't at the moment, which is why I said they would sell well IF THEY ARE reasonably priced.

I don't think they will be selling for "luxury" prices (whatever luxury is) as there are so many flats there they will be able to sell them a bit cheaper I think (obviously I dont' have your insight in to modern architecture, building renovation, the housing market and what the population thinks)

First of all you say the flats would be the place to be, and better than current city centre flats. Yet now you say that they can be sold off cheaply. Make your mind up.

To be honest i have gone off-subject. I don't care if the flats at Park Hill will be expensive or cheap - the builing is an eyesore and should be demolished (it can be if the right conditions are reached).

I am fed up with explaining to Sheffield newcomers why we have such an ugly building in a prominent place. Just think what we could have in its place - the possibilities are endless.

so can we agree that these aren't actually going to be 'luxury city centre apartments'? and as such will not carry such a high price tag (mostly due to lower land value, i would think) - they will probably be marketted at young professionals, 'key workers' (teachers, nurses, etc) - they will not be sold cheaply, but at a reasonable price that is affordable. A proportion of the flats will be 'affordable housing' - probably not owned by the council, and probably not occupied by druggies, teenage mums, or whatever your stereotype of a council tennant is, but by people who can't afford to get on the property ladder at the moment. Urban Splash are an extremely shrewd and progressive company - if they didn't think this was a viable idea, they wouldn't be involve!

I agree, the building is horrendously ugly at present - hopefully the renovation will improve this image greatly. I'm sure that the council would love to knock this building down and start again from scratch, but unfortunately they can't, because English Heritage listed it.

Originally posted by RobertChiat
I agree, the building is horrendously ugly at present - hopefully the renovation will improve this image greatly. I'm sure that the council would love to knock this building down and start again from scratch, but unfortunately they can't, because English Heritage listed it.

No, the Council applied to list it in the 1990's. The same people are in charge of the Council now as the ones in charge when they listed it - so its unlikely they will admit they where wrong to list the building in the first place.

Anyway, listed buildings can be demolished in special circumstances. We can start from scratch - but the political will in the Town Hall isnt there to do it.

Originally posted by goose
First of all you say the flats would be the place to be, and better than current city centre flats. Yet now you say that they can be sold off cheaply. Make your mind up.

It is possible for somewhere to be reasonably priced and popular, in fact that is the idea situation.

Something doesn't have to be expensive to be desirable.

If I built a block of apartments in town and charged £50K per apartment, would they be popular ?

fair play, I wasn't aware of that. Seems pretty stupid to list a building that they own, as it effectly ties their hands for the future.

It's rare for listed buildings to be completely demolished, although many seem to be the victim of mysterious and unlsovable arson attacks shortly after new developments are proposed...

Originally posted by nick2
If I built a block of apartments in town and charged £50K per apartment, would they be popular ?

Yes they would. But after you, as the private developer, see that you have ten people wanting to buy the same flat you would be a fool not to up the price.

These are not social flats they are private flats, the sale of which will be used to finance the development.

These buildings are supposed to be built where the blast lane car park is near park square roundabout

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1874

Theres 5 in a row going to be built all at slighty different heights (dont ask why) the tallest one is going to have its own tramstop which will apprently be on the bridge that goes from infront of the hyde park flats over the parksquare round about. Its kind of hard to imagine what it will look like but i hope it gets built

Originally posted by nick2


I've nothing against new buildings but they have to be on a human scale, like the rest of the city is, Sheffield is not like Leeds, Leeds is flat, tall buildings work there, here they wouldn't look right.


i don't agree, i think norfolk park looked dead right on the hillside, also hyde park was impressive, especially at night all lit up and on a hill.

Originally posted by Cardinal
Whiist we're doing that, we could also demolish Park Hill but then...I don't believe that can be done as somebody (resisited the temptation to use stronger word) slapped a preservation order or some such thing as I understand it.

Mind you, the apparent continued demand for all of these 'city dwellings' continues to baffle me.

that preservation order caused a right kerfuffle! i lived there at the time. repairs and renovations were left undone for year after year as no-one knew what the plans were for the estate. once it got listed, you weren't even allowed to paint your balcony and cover up the exposed concrete, as this "brutalism" was all part of the 50's crap estate chic, man!:rant:

Originally posted by nick2


As for Park Hill, once the flats are tarted-up they will be worth a small fortune, the council arn't as daft as we like to think.

my neighbours at park hill were offered their two bedroom flat, facing town, for £2,000 in 1995!

i almost moved back there just to buy one, aware of how much they were gonna be worth one day. but once inside all the old memories came flooding back and i scarpered!

Originally posted by goose
I Although how on earth you think the flats will be worth a small fortune when they are next to council flats is beyond me.

because harold lambert court flats go for £70,000, and when they were known as hyde park in 1991 they would've cost about £6,000.

Originally posted by RobertChiat


If you think this won't work close to council owned housing, consider West One next to Devonshire Green, which is probably the most comparable development, and is cheek in jowl with council owned housing on all sides.

i think they're housing association, the difference being they get looked after and tenants are "vetted", although the place never feels like it's youir own...:|

Originally posted by goose


I am fed up with explaining to Sheffield newcomers why we have such an ugly building in a prominent place. Just think what we could have in its place - the possibilities are endless.

i agree, its an embarrassment, although i reckon you could demolish the big block and the one 'out on a limb' at duke street, as the other two are lower rise and interlink better, i.e. there are always people milling about them which is why when i lived there it felt like those two blocks "worked" where the big one and the duke street on didn't.

Originally posted by RobertChiat
I'm sure that the council would love to knock this building down and start again from scratch, but unfortunately they can't, because English Heritage listed it.

in 1996 the council got sucked into english heritage's promises of better flats for the tenants if they agreed to listing, so the council supported it.

for the past nine years the stress of having almost nothing done and, worse, no firm decisions made, has caused a right kerfuffle!

imagine not knowing for years whether your home was going to be refurbished/ demolished/ compulsory purchased/ cleared for private tenants...

you'd go mad!

Did any of you hear that £315 million is being put into what they now call the riverside quarter ? Theres going to be restuarants, pubs, shops and flats. It should be finished by 2014 (so not to long eh ? lol) The thing id like to know is, would the riverside quarter attract customers ? will people go there cos theres a few shops or will they go to the new retail quarter thats promised ? or will they still go drinking down west street instead of going a little further away ?

Don't believe the spin. ;)

Originally posted by eighty4
It should be finished by 2014 (so not to long eh ? lol) The thing id like to know is, would the riverside quarter attract customers ? will people go there cos theres a few shops or will they go to the new retail quarter thats promised ? or will they still go drinking down west street instead of going a little further away ?

2014? People want that kind of atmosphere now.

it might seem obvious to say, but you can't build atmosphere, it's something that grows organically, if enough people are willing to contribute to it.

It's ok building all these apartments but who is going to live in them ? People who move to Sheffield ? People who currently live in the suburbs ? Unless they also do something to increase the number of well paid jobs in Sheffield (you can't pay a £200K mortgage on most jobs) they are not going to get anyone moving here to live in these flats.

Originally posted by nick2
It's ok building all these apartments but who is going to live in them ? People who move to Sheffield ? People who currently live in the suburbs ? Unless they also do something to increase the number of well paid jobs in Sheffield (you can't pay a £200K mortgage on most jobs) they are not going to get anyone moving here to live in these flats.

The v1 development which will be at west bar sold all 117 flats in 3 days so theres obviously huge demand for them ive also heard simlar stories where the entire block of flats is sol b4 they are built

Originally posted by eighty4
Did any of you hear that £315 million is being put into what they now call the riverside quarter ? Theres going to be restuarants, pubs, shops and flats. It should be finished by 2014 (so not to long eh ? lol) The thing id like to know is, would the riverside quarter attract customers ? will people go there cos theres a few shops or will they go to the new retail quarter thats promised ? or will they still go drinking down west street instead of going a little further away ?

Think you'll find out about it here
http://www.castlemore.co.uk/index_frame.asp

Originally posted by eighty4
The v1 development which will be at west bar sold all 117 flats in 3 days so theres obviously huge demand for them ive also heard simlar stories where the entire block of flats is sol b4 they are built

But most of these will be bought for letting out.

I get very annoyed that even earning a decent wage I can't afford to buy a place on my own. Houses prices creep upwards but the bank still won't lend you enough money.

I'd love someone to sell some cheap flats in the city centre that could only be sold to buyers who weren't allowed to let them out for a year or something silly like that.

Originally posted by probedb
But most of these will be bought for letting out.

I get very annoyed that even earning a decent wage I can't afford to buy a place on my own. Houses prices creep upwards but the bank still won't lend you enough money.

I'd love someone to sell some cheap flats in the city centre that could only be sold to buyers who weren't allowed to let them out for a year or something silly like that.

I don't think a lot of these flats are even bough to be lived in, they are seen as an "investment", thew people who bought them might sell them on again before the development is even finished. That kind of thing doesn't help to develop a comunity feel in these developments like you used to get in the council tower blocks were people had lived there for years.

Originally posted by nick2
I don't think a lot of these flats are even bough to be lived in, they are seen as an "investment", thew people who bought them might sell them on again before the development is even finished. That kind of thing doesn't help to develop a comunity feel in these developments like you used to get in the council tower blocks were people had lived there for years.

i suppose we could fill it with council tennants or better still put some refugee's in there

Originally posted by eighty4
i suppose we could fill it with council tennants or better still put some refugee's in there

The strange thing is council tennents don't realy want flats, if they did the council wouldn't have blown-up all the tower blocks on Norfolk Park.

Does anyone know what is being built on corporation street ? i went past there the other day and saw some steel framework being put up ? I dont know corporation st very well but its opposite a garage ? I Think its a jet petrol station. Also there are a load of new building being built near the corporation night club, does anyone know what these are going to be ?

They are both new apartments for students.

Hello Chaps,

Anyone know anything about how to contact the Norfolk Park extra care home facility?

Originally posted by benclements2
Looks very promising! I'd love to see some investment in Sheffield. When I go to other major cities (Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle mostly) I feel that Sheffield is being left behind somewhat.

Good to see the city centre getting a revamp. When the works done around the winter gardens, I reckon it will look great!

BTW, anybody know whats being built next door to West Bar Police station??

Sheffield is not being left behind. Sheffield was at the forefront of regeneration in 1991 with the World Student Games. It was a financial disaster because Thatcher didnt back it. The investments (as you call them) in Sheffield are due to having a Labour Govt in London, The Lottery, European finance money direct from Brussels, Tax free business initiatives and the general desire to make a quick profit.

For more info on the Park Hill project visit here

http://www.urbansplash.co.uk/pdf/ph_brochure.pdf

http://www.urbansplash.co.uk/pdf/ph_leaflet.pdf

http://www.urbansplash.co.uk/pdf/hawkins_brown.pdf

although I still think a bulldozer would be the best way forward.

Looks to me like all they've done is put some balloons in the sky, a few people here and there and then covered everything in green and pink!

But........ it couldn't look any worse than it does now though, so fair play to 'em and good luck 'cos they're gona need it.

I just can't see the point of spending £40m when it will be knocked down anyway come the revolution in which I delcare myself leader of Sheffield and send in the bulldozers...