Snook
21-01-2010, 15:46
Looks like it has finally happened, then... Which makes offering Fortune a new deal make a lot more sense. I'm surprised anyone has met his demands, to be honest, and I wonder how much we'll get for him?
|
View Full Version : Kilgallon moves to Sunderland Snook 21-01-2010, 15:46 Looks like it has finally happened, then... Which makes offering Fortune a new deal make a lot more sense. I'm surprised anyone has met his demands, to be honest, and I wonder how much we'll get for him? bladesufc1 21-01-2010, 15:50 link to info please? bladesufc1 21-01-2010, 15:54 nothing confirmed 100% yet, but looks like a sealed deal http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB362GB363&q=killgallon+sunderland&meta=&aq=f&oq= Panthera 21-01-2010, 16:09 SSN say he's having a medical tonight with a view to a £2m move wadsleyblade 21-01-2010, 16:09 Medical this evening, fee of 2 million. Danny_Boy 21-01-2010, 16:51 I think £2m is a good fee. L.U.C.A.S 21-01-2010, 16:58 money back atticus 21-01-2010, 16:59 Didn't think that we'd get that much for him with him being out of contract in the summer. I reckon Sunderland have done ok as well.Prem class player LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 17:02 £2M with only 4 month of a contract left fantastic deal. Grappler 21-01-2010, 17:06 £2M with only 4 month of a contract left fantastic deal. I agree this is a good deal if it is correct. Ends all the speculation and a decent price as well. crookesey 21-01-2010, 17:23 £2M with only 4 month of a contract left fantastic deal. You should have got Richard Wood in for £500K, whoops I didn't notice that it was you. :hihi: Grandad.Malky 21-01-2010, 17:25 2 million, snatch their hand off, if he really wants to stay and get us to Wembley it might be a different matter but you have to be :suspect: mh01 21-01-2010, 17:33 2 million, snatch their hand off, if he really wants to stay and get us to Wembley it might be a different matter but you have to be :suspect:why would you want to get to wembley, your records hardly decent, try aiming a bit higher for a change & go for automatic promotion:thumbsup: nikki-red 21-01-2010, 17:40 link to info please? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/8473058.stm http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_5876671,00.html sham.69er 21-01-2010, 17:44 good luck to him.....he was never gonna get into a man utd team or arsenal but he'll get into a sunderland side..he gets prem footy we get 2 mill (minus leeds share) better than nowt LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 18:07 You should have got Richard Wood in for £500K, whoops I didn't notice that it was you. :hihi: lol. leave the wind ups to Titanic eh !! Grandad.Malky 21-01-2010, 18:17 why would you want to get to wembley, your records hardly decent, try aiming a bit higher for a change & go for automatic promotion:thumbsup: As nice as that would be lets be realistic. wotsit 21-01-2010, 18:19 i thought everyone was desperate to play for utd. Rocklegend 21-01-2010, 18:32 why would you want to get to wembley, your records hardly decent, try aiming a bit higher for a change & go for automatic promotion:thumbsup: Our record's not that good when we get automatic either...:mad: Robbie Loving 21-01-2010, 18:35 Good deal if it goes through crookesey 21-01-2010, 19:26 lol. leave the wind ups to Titanic eh !! OK, how about Madjid Bougherra? :hihi: sheffandy 21-01-2010, 19:47 Now reported on S.S.N that Killgallon to have a medical at Middlesboro'! LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 20:01 Lets now forget there is a sell on clause with scum Leeds, usually 20%. NERVY-OWL 21-01-2010, 20:19 if the price is correct then you have done well, wouldn't of expected you to get that. i was saying you should just let him run his contract down but for that sort of money your laughing CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 20:20 Too good for Rangers and the SPL that is a cert, him along with Boyd are there prized assets, Valencia and quite a few more clubs have been showing an interest in him ever since his goal in the Champions league last season, always thought he was a brilliant defender and its a matter of time before he goes to a bigger club. Why not look to the likes of Evatt from Blackpool good championship defender and a local lad also. Robbie Loving 21-01-2010, 20:37 Transfer confirmed United have agreed to the sale of defender Matt Kilgallon to Premiership outfit Sunderland. The 26-year-old, who would be out of contract in the summer, has moved to the Stadium of Light for an undisclosed fee. Kilgallon's future has been in the spotlight since the early Autumn and several bids or inquiries were received. The uncertainty made Kevin Blackwell's task in selection and possible recruitment difficult as he was aware that the Club was vulnerable in the transfer window: "There was nothing more that the Club could do because Matt was in the final months of his contract and exercising his right to speak to other clubs. "Having lost first Michael Tonge and then James Beattie at the death in previous transfer windows, I didn't want the same thing to happen at the last minute again without having the chance to find a replacement. "We have had to keep searching for someone of Killa's quality in case he went but that is difficult. I don't think there are many centre-backs like that around and that is why Premiership clubs have been looking at Killa." Kilgallon joined United three years ago for £1.75m and has played 124 times for the club, although recently he has been out of the side with hamstring problem. He will be ineligible for Sunderland's FA Cup tie at Portsmouth on Saturday but could make his debut for the Black Cats in the Premiership encounter at Everton on Wednesday. United Chief Executive Trevor Birch said: "Given that Mathew could have walked away for nothing at the end of the season we were always going to be under some pressure if a sensible bid was received. "I think both parties would have been happy to run out the contract, but once an offer of substance had been received which satisfied the club and the player then it was pretty difficult to ignore. "We are sorry to see Matt go but our thoughts now are focussed on assisting the manager in further strengthening the squad after the arrivals of Mark Yeates and Marcel Seip." Excellent business if the fee is to be believed. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 20:44 Excellent business, im sorry but you Unitedites need to get real, every time you have a decent player you either sell them or they take the mick out of you and wont sign a new contract. Sos lads but the last couple of years with the amount of decent players you have sold has told me that your at your limit success wise. You would think it was United in debt not us with all the key players they sell. Its getting quite obvious that any decent player doesant want to be at United and are using your club as a stop gap for bigger things. I can understand you selling him because of the length of contract that remaind but how many times now have you either not been able to afford the wages or the players wants off? Wheres all this bloody money you have got???????????????? CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 20:49 Like our lass has just said, carry on doing it anyway its music to us Wednesdayites ears after all the hassle we get about not being able to keep hold of our best players and not being able to afford them. Worrying times at United if you ask me, its not as though Blackwells replacing the players that are getting sold with at least the same amount of quality. swervin 21-01-2010, 21:04 you know the score ,McCabe will not spend money that would put us where you are now, in debt and scratching around at the bottom of the barrell for freebies hopeing for a take-over.united will not give in to paying over the top wages to players no matter how good they are .spend this week go bust next week not at our club LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 21:09 Like our lass has just said, carry on doing it anyway its music to us Wednesdayites ears after all the hassle we get about not being able to keep hold of our best players and not being able to afford them. Worrying times at United if you ask me, its not as though Blackwells replacing the players that are getting sold with at least the same amount of quality. This sale, is understandable, good business and acceptable to the club, player and fans. That has not always been the case. Had a sale of Ward been authorised by the club, we would be singing a different tune. Wednesday can only dream of getting £2m for their players, we got that for a 4 month contract !!! FACT. On a final point our sales on the whole have been for big money, the Walker Naughton deak £12m !! who could turn that down.? Tonge £2m for a then and still an average player. Beattie we almost got our money back too. Even Cotterill and Howard showed a return. We now sell on our terms as proven in the Killa deal. In the past we have sold on the cheap Deane, flo, Pesh etc. Name the Owls last multi ££ sales. enough said. how long ago !! CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 21:18 you know the score ,McCabe will not spend money that would put us where you are now, in debt and scratching around at the bottom of the barrell for freebies hopeing for a take-over.united will not give in to paying over the top wages to players no matter how good they are .spend this week go bust next week not at our club Is that how close you are then, spend a few extra quid on wages or spend an extra million on a player and your in the poo, come on m8 im as fair as they come and even im starting to wonder what the big deal is about United. Even we have managed to keep a couple of decent players (so far). Whos your star player now, a lad from Chesterfield and erm not many more i can even think of in all honesty. My point really is how much does Mcabe want to go into the Premiership and how much does Mcabe prefer a steady boat? Id say the latter, at the end of the day its not showing much enthusiasm from the chairman when hes willing to not take a stance on keeping your best players. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 21:26 This sale, is understandable, good business and acceptable to the club, player and fans. That has not always been the case. Had a sale of Ward been authorised by the club, we would be singing a different tune. Wednesday can only dream of getting £2m for their players, we got that for a 4 month contract !!! FACT. On a final point our sales on the whole have been for big money, the Walker Naughton deak £12m !! who could turn that down.? Tonge £2m for a then and still an average player. Beattie we almost got our money back too. Even Cotterill and Howard showed a return. We now sell on our terms as proven in the Killa deal. In the past we have sold on the cheap Deane, flo, Pesh etc. Name the Owls last multi ££ sales. enough said. how long ago !! I agree about your first point, who cares about the money most of it will be going to your chairman for all the loans he gives you. Beattie was an absolute bollock drop, he was scoring for fun and was in his prime when he left you, hes been unlucky with injury since. Cotterill is average so forget him aswell, Howards about to become a league 1 player if hes not carefull. As for the last bit, doesnt that tell you that weve kept onto to our best assests in the last 24 months or so unlike you who seem to have got a chairman who will sell at the first oppurtunity, its not as if United didnt have the chance a year or so ago to offer an improved contract to convince Kilgallon that you have at least a little ambition. alex3659 21-01-2010, 21:29 I agree about your first point, who cares about the money most of it will be going to your chairman for all the loans he gives you. Beattie was an absolute bollock drop, he was scoring for fun and was in his prime when he left you, hes been unlucky with injury since. Cotterill is average so forget him aswell, Howards about to become a league 1 player if hes not carefull. As for the last bit, doesnt that tell you that weve kept onto to our best assests in the last 24 months or so unlike you who seem to have got a chairman who will sell at the first oppurtunity, its not as if United didnt have the chance a year or so ago to offer an improved contract to convince Kilgallon that you have at least a little ambition. Do you think for one minute if the offers come in for your players you wont sell? LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 21:32 I agree about your first point, who cares about the money most of it will be going to your chairman for all the loans he gives you. Beattie was an absolute bollock drop, he was scoring for fun and was in his prime when he left you, hes been unlucky with injury since. Cotterill is average so forget him aswell, Howards about to become a league 1 player if hes not carefull. As for the last bit, doesnt that tell you that weve kept onto to our best assests in the last 24 months or so unlike you who seem to have got a chairman who will sell at the first oppurtunity, its not as if United didnt have the chance a year or so ago to offer an improved contract to convince Kilgallon that you have at least a little ambition. As you could not answer my points, i would argue other than a £1.5m bid for tudgay (is he worth that now?) you have not had the quality players nor the bids to accomodate high transfers. I have a personal view that some of your players may also be over valued on the clubs balance sheets, hence selling in todays market would not be favourable accounting wise. thats a personal opinion only of course. NERVY-OWL 21-01-2010, 21:33 Do you think for one minute if the offers come in for your players you wont sell? until it happens we don't know. we managed to turn down the tudgay bid in the summer, maybe we will find out with grant soon enough alex3659 21-01-2010, 21:34 until it happens we don't know. we managed to turn down the tudgay bid in the summer, maybe we will find out with grant soon enough If you get an offer. NERVY-OWL 21-01-2010, 21:35 If you get an offer. yep i think the maybe we will find out with grant covered that;) alex3659 21-01-2010, 21:37 yep i think the maybe we will find out with grant covered that;) You have not recieved any confirmed offers yet, for grant or any other player. sheff71 21-01-2010, 21:39 Is that how close you are then, spend a few extra quid on wages or spend an extra million on a player and your in the poo, come on m8 im as fair as they come and even im starting to wonder what the big deal is about United. Even we have managed to keep a couple of decent players (so far). Whos your star player now, a lad from Chesterfield and erm not many more i can even think of in all honesty. My point really is how much does Mcabe want to go into the Premiership and how much does Mcabe prefer a steady boat? Id say the latter, at the end of the day its not showing much enthusiasm from the chairman when hes willing to not take a stance on keeping your best players. If the fee is anywhere near that mentioned, this is an excellent deal for someone that was wanting to run his contract down and leave for nothing in the summer - it's not that long ago Browny way for around £400k in a January window, so to get anything over a £1m after the Leeds clause is welcome, for a player whose head has been turned. Anyone who has seen him this season knows how far he's short of his best, hopefully he can achieve what he wants with Sunderland with our best wishes, rather than having gone under a cloud. I hope we make the deal for Seip permanent, he's looked real quality since arriving, and has helped steady the defence again (after that rocky spell earlier with Killa playing where we defended like our neighbours!). I've no problem selling players for a good price, as with Naughton, Walker and Killa. Just look across the city, and that supposedly superb striker Tudgay sulking for half a season because Burnley weren't willing to pay the silly money Wednesday wanted... so he makes do with second best and stays, knowing his chance of the big time are fading... For a team that's as supposedly as rubbish as you're making out, with only one decent player, they're not doing too bad to be in 6th, are they...? They're a TEAM, not 1 star and makeweights - but keep on underestimating us, and we'll see what happens in April with those 'non-stars' such as Camara, Henderson, Monty, Walker... Interesting you've brought back Varney, wasn't exactly that popular earlier this season... another headless chicken up front. A couple of wins away wins and you're Real Madrid again... :hihi: CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 21:43 As you could not answer my points, i would argue other than a £1.5m bid for tudgay (is he worth that now?) you have not had the quality players nor the bids to accomodate high transfers. I have a personal view that some of your players may also be over valued on the clubs balance sheets, hence selling in todays market would not be favourable accounting wise. thats a personal opinion only of course. Im not with you on the answering your points bit unless you want me to write you an essay. You have had premiership tv money, Parachute payments, installments from West Ham and a personal cash machine in your chairman, still your best player is an ex Chestfield player, now im no bank manager or a Blade but if i were id be pretty peed off. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 21:45 If the fee is anywhere near that mentioned, this is an excellent deal for someone that was wanting to run his contract down and leave for nothing in the summer - it's not that long ago Browny way for around £400k in a January window, so to get anything over a £1m after the Leeds clause is welcome, for a player whose head has been turned. Anyone who has seen him this season knows how far he's short of his best, hopefully he can achieve what he wants with Sunderland with our best wishes, rather than having gone under a cloud. I hope we make the deal for Seip permanent, he's looked real quality since arriving, and has helped steady the defence again (after that rocky spell earlier with Killa playing where we defended like our neighbours!). I've no problem selling players for a good price, as with Naughton, Walker and Killa. Just look across the city, and that supposedly superb striker Tudgay sulking for half a season because Burnley weren't willing to pay the silly money Wednesday wanted... so he makes do with second best and stays, knowing his chance of the big time are fading... For a team that's as supposedly as rubbish as you're making out, with only one decent player, they're not doing too bad to be in 6th, are they...? They're a TEAM, not 1 star and makeweights - but keep on underestimating us, and we'll see what happens in April with those 'non-stars' such as Camara, Henderson, Monty, Walker... Interesting you've brought back Varney, wasn't exactly that popular earlier this season... another headless chicken up front. A couple of wins away wins and you're Real Madrid again... :hihi: :hihi: I'll leave your thread to it, just thought id say a couple of things on the point in hand, like you say lets see how the players who mcabe cant earn nowt on do ;) NERVY-OWL 21-01-2010, 21:55 You have not recieved any confirmed offers yet, for grant or any other player. yes thats why i said MAYBE we will find out with grant, as in we haven't had an offer but we might do if reports are correct sheff71 21-01-2010, 21:56 :hihi: I'll leave your thread to it, just thought id say a couple of things on the point in hand, like you say lets see how the players who mcabe cant earn nowt on do ;) It's ok Corky, I know you're still hungover from seeing two wins back to back, after thinking you'd never win again... :) I'm happy to progress as we are, with a responsible chairman rather than doing a Wednesday. It's not like we've spent much time in the top flight lately (and neither have you), so it's not like we have some god-given right to be up there... then when we do next go up we can enjoy it, without worrying about running up stupid debts like you or Portsmouth. We've got a competitive squad, the spirit has returned and a good bunch of players, and if we go up that's great... if not, at least we won't be looking around for someone to paint the ground... :) hurstyowl 21-01-2010, 21:57 If the fee is anywhere near that mentioned, this is an excellent deal for someone that was wanting to run his contract down and leave for nothing in the summer - it's not that long ago Browny way for around £400k in a January window, so to get anything over a £1m after the Leeds clause is welcome, for a player whose head has been turned. Anyone who has seen him this season knows how far he's short of his best, hopefully he can achieve what he wants with Sunderland with our best wishes, rather than having gone under a cloud. I hope we make the deal for Seip permanent, he's looked real quality since arriving, and has helped steady the defence again (after that rocky spell earlier with Killa playing where we defended like our neighbours!). I've no problem selling players for a good price, as with Naughton, Walker and Killa. Just look across the city, and that supposedly superb striker Tudgay sulking for half a season because Burnley weren't willing to pay the silly money Wednesday wanted... so he makes do with second best and stays, knowing his chance of the big time are fading... For a team that's as supposedly as rubbish as you're making out, with only one decent player, they're not doing too bad to be in 6th, are they...? They're a TEAM, not 1 star and makeweights - but keep on underestimating us, and we'll see what happens in April with those 'non-stars' such as Camara, Henderson, Monty, Walker... Interesting you've brought back Varney, wasn't exactly that popular earlier this season... another headless chicken up front. A couple of wins away wins and you're Real Madrid again... :hihi: quote someone who has said were like real madrid! exactly! as for tudgay ive already said on another thread his passing, control and footballing brain makes up for his lack of goals this season, hes had his fair share of assists and made a few goals, he set johnson up against barnsley which won us the game and won us the free kick from nothing that led to our second at blackpool, which in the end won us the game, so hes won us 4 points in the last 2 games. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 22:05 It's ok Corky, I know you're still hungover from seeing two wins back to back, after thinking you'd never win again... :) i hope the hangover goes on for a bit then if not, at least we won't be looking around for someone to paint the ground... :) If you want to see the world cup then you will have to put up with the decor m8 sheff71 21-01-2010, 22:15 If you want to see the world cup then you will have to put up with the decor m8 I wouldn't have been going to the games had they been at the Lane either, so makes no difference to me :) On tv, it's the players on the pitch i'd be watching rather than the bits around it, so makes no real difference (although at least there may be a better atmosphere than the moaning owls fans usually there) :hihi: Now that you've got the gift of the psychic (as you must know England hs won the bid and S6 selected), what lottery numbers do you foresee for this Saturday? :D alex3659 21-01-2010, 22:18 I wouldn't have been going to the games had they been at the Lane either, so makes no difference to me :) On tv, it's the players on the pitch i'd be watching rather than the bits around it, so makes no real difference (although at least there may be a better atmosphere than the moaning owls fans usually there) :hihi: Now that you've got the gift of the psychic (as you must know England hs won the bid and S6 selected), what lottery numbers do you foresee for this Saturday? :D Don't start asking him for tips, you'll be potless like lightening. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 22:23 Now that you've got the gift of the psychic (as you must know England hs won the bid and S6 selected), what lottery numbers do you foresee for this Saturday? :D All i know is its definatley going to be the blue bit in Sheffield if England does get picked, like someone said the other week, maybe it wont get it, maybe it will. If it does get the chance it will be one real buzz taking my 14 year old lad to watch world cup football at his home ground, something he can take with him when im well gone. If not i'll still take him all over the shop and beyond. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 22:25 Don't start asking him for tips, you'll be potless like lightening. Bout time you did some for us then, come on give us a 4 timer for Saturday. And no 1/3s.... sheff71 21-01-2010, 22:31 All i know is its definatley going to be the blue bit in Sheffield if England does get picked, like someone said the other week, maybe it wont get it, maybe it will. If it does get the chance it will be one real buzz taking my 14 year old lad to watch world cup football at his home ground, something he can take with him when im well gone. If not i'll still take him all over the shop and beyond. Good for you, and hope you both enjoy it if we do get it :) Though if I were going to a WC game, i'd rather go to one of the big venues or see an England game, than goto one of the secondary venues like Plymouth, MK and Hillsborough (I expect the FA will ensure Old Trafford, Anfield etc get all the juicy games!). alex3659 21-01-2010, 22:32 Bout time you did some for us then, come on give us a 4 timer for Saturday. And no 1/3s.... If you go through when I posted em corky I didn't do too bad and always 4 aways. At the moment my form is bang out. I just have the same two trebles every week now and not had a touch for ages. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 22:45 If you go through when I posted em corky I didn't do too bad and always 4 aways. At the moment my form is bang out. I just have the same two trebles every week now and not had a touch for ages. Harder than people think, even two teams can be pretty tough on you some times. LADYBIRDS 21-01-2010, 22:45 Corkey, what price is Hillsbrough to host an acctual world cup game in 2018? The fact England has not yet won the bid, and Hillsbrough not yet a confirmed host ground! It must create a betting market. Bladesman 21-01-2010, 22:47 Well we knew he was off it was just a case of when. I am just worried on who we will bring in and the re signing of Fortune does not fill me with confidence. A Greg Halford return would certainly lift the mood. CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 22:57 Corkey, what price is Hillsbrough to host an acctual world cup game in 2018? The fact England has not yet won the bid, and Hillsbrough not yet a confirmed host ground! It must create a betting market. Im sure you read enough articles in the better papers m8, England in my eyes are nailed on to get the world cup in 2018. Spain and Portugal will lose out because they have put a joint bid in and in my opinion its just not acceptable to be having two different countries holding an event of this magnitude anymore it needs to be in the same place. The only other contenders are Russia and the Aussies, i'll give you a thousand to one that they wont get it, as for the Aussies come on. The other 3 are Japan, Indonesia, and the USA who are just wasting there time even bidding imagne if the USA got the world cup before England after having it not too long ago. hurstyowl 21-01-2010, 22:58 Im sure you read enough articles in the better papers m8, England in my eyes are nailed on to get the world cup in 2018. Spain and Portugal will lose out because they have put a joint bid in and in my opinion its just not acceptable to be having two different countries holding an event of this magnitude anymore it needs to be in the same place. The only other contenders are Russia and the Aussies, i'll give you a thousand to one that they wont get it, as for the Aussies come on. The other 3 are Japan, Indonesia, and the USA who are just wasting there time even bidding imagne if the USA got the world cup before England after having it not too long ago. gimme a quid on them then mate ;) CorkerSWFC 21-01-2010, 23:02 gimme a quid on them then mate ;) Its just gone to 2000/1 if you want to put a tenner on it lol.:hihi: Earwiggo 21-01-2010, 23:14 How sad! Walking in a Killa Sunderland. :) hurstyowl 21-01-2010, 23:15 Its just gone to 2000/1 if you want to put a tenner on it lol.:hihi: nah ill stick to me quid mate, i take cash only though if it happens sheff71 21-01-2010, 23:19 I wouldn't rule out the Aussie bid so easily. After the way FIFA have chosen the likes of the US in 1994, Japan/Korea in 2002 and SA in 2010, it looks like they're alternating from one established host (e.g. Spain 82, Italy 90, France 98, Germany 2006, Brazil 2014) and then one emerging football nation... that being the case, 2018 could quite easily goto Australia as a way to further widen FIFA's appeal in that region. They know that if needed, they could easily call on England or another established country at short notice if there's a problem. Australia do know how to put on big sports events, and could with preparation easily get the venues required - some of the cricket stadia for a start have very large attendances. As for Spain/Portugal - I can see them picking up support from South America, and possibly across the rest of Europe over us (as the FA and PL do come across as arrogant spoiled brats at times, assuming we should win just because we're English!). But now Ginola's on board, should be a doddle... sheff71 21-01-2010, 23:21 Killa's definitely gone now - with the obligatory shot of him walking his dog on SSN to confirm it :) Good luck to him, and now we can plan the rest of the season with less uncertainty. CorkerSWFC 22-01-2010, 00:03 I wouldn't rule out the Aussie bid so easily. After the way FIFA have chosen the likes of the US in 1994, Japan/Korea in 2002 and SA in 2010, it looks like they're alternating from one established host (e.g. Spain 82, Italy 90, France 98, Germany 2006, Brazil 2014) and then one emerging football nation... that being the case, 2018 could quite easily goto Australia as a way to further widen FIFA's appeal in that region. They know that if needed, they could easily call on England or another established country at short notice if there's a problem. Australia do know how to put on big sports events, and could with preparation easily get the venues required - some of the cricket stadia for a start have very large attendances. As for Spain/Portugal - I can see them picking up support from South America, and possibly across the rest of Europe over us (as the FA and PL do come across as arrogant spoiled brats at times, assuming we should win just because we're English!). But now Ginola's on board, should be a doddle... If England doesnt get chosen then it will make a mockery of the game in general, an established country such as England is well overdue a chance of hosting the biggest event which our city even invented. I for one will be 37 by the time it comes so i hope it bloody does, god im stopping now im feeling old lmao :hihi: CorkerSWFC 22-01-2010, 00:05 Killa's definitely gone now - with the obligatory shot of him walking his dog on SSN to confirm it :) Good luck to him, and now we can plan the rest of the season with less uncertainty. :hihi: what did i say earlier about playing golf and buying a dog, he'll probably do a lot of that once Anton Ferdinand recovers. nikki-red 22-01-2010, 07:15 http://www.sufc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1940132,00.html Its a shame but good luck to him. missymoo73 22-01-2010, 08:00 I am gutted that he's going but theres no point in trying to keep him if he really wants to go. Just wonder who the hell were going to get to replace him.:huh: Strange why Sunderland would want to sign the player when he is supposed to be injured (well isnt that why he's not been playing for us :suspect:) Stockers 22-01-2010, 08:45 Wood leaves - £500k - Wednesday held to ranson by players Killa leaves - £2m - Blades are a selling club You Wednesday fans should all be journos, you love a good headline don't you. Get a grip Wednesday fans, Killa was holding the club to ranson, he's probably on 3 times more at Sunderland than he was at the Blades and he gets PL football. Not ideal but we've got £2m for him (£1.6m taking out Leeds' cut!!), we've signed a great player in Yeates and we've got some money to spend on a new Centre Back. Now if this pleases you lot you're easily pleased, and remind me who Wednesday have signed this transfer window? If you're so please i'll take a £100 bet on with anyone that the Blades still finish above you this season!! rivelinblade 22-01-2010, 10:16 Worry not, we have Seip. Impressing me so far . . . crookesey 22-01-2010, 11:13 Wood leaves - £500k - Wednesday held to ranson by players Killa leaves - £2m - Blades are a selling club You Wednesday fans should all be journos, you love a good headline don't you. Get a grip Wednesday fans, Killa was holding the club to ranson, he's probably on 3 times more at Sunderland than he was at the Blades and he gets PL football. Not ideal but we've got £2m for him (£1.6m taking out Leeds' cut!!), we've signed a great player in Yeates and we've got some money to spend on a new Centre Back. Now if this pleases you lot you're easily pleased, and remind me who Wednesday have signed this transfer window? If you're so please i'll take a £100 bet on with anyone that the Blades still finish above you this season!! Wood - Probably worth circa £1.2 million with a longer contract, we get £500,000 for the few months left on his current contract. Kilgallon - Probably worth circa £3.5 million with a longer contract, you get £1.6 million, net of a sell on clause, for the few months left on his current contract. Both clubs took a very similar percentage drop in real value, due to the shortness of their contracts. What could SUFC have done to keep Killa? Bog all, the Premiership and big wages beckoned. What could SWFC have done to keep Wood? Well for a start, not take his captaincy off him, not replace him with an older, and IMHO, inferior player, not drop him from the team, and last but not least, offer him the same wages that they offered Purse, Wood is young and worth money, Purse is old and worth nowt. I mean, Coventry for christ's sake, the whole thing stinks. :loopy: Panthera 22-01-2010, 11:25 Wood - Probably worth circa £1.2 million with a longer contract, we get £500,000 for the few months left on his current contract. Kilgallon - Probably worth circa £3.5 million with a longer contract, you get £1.6 million, net of a sell on clause, for the few months left on his current contract. Both clubs took a very similar percentage drop in real value, due to the shortness of their contracts. What could SUFC have done to keep Killa? Bog all, the Premiership and big wages beckoned. What could SWFC have done to keep Wood? Well for a start, not take his captaincy off him, not replace him with an older, and IMHO, inferior player, not drop him from the team, and last but not least, offer him the same wages that they offered Purse, Wood is young and worth money, Purse is old and worth nowt. I mean, Coventry for christ's sake, the whole thing stinks. :loopy: and to top it all he's scoring more for them than tudgay is for us :( Earwiggo 22-01-2010, 11:32 Name the Owls last multi ££ sales. enough said. how long ago !! Totally irrelevant point about Wednesday's sales. I don't think anybody's digging here at all. Aren't Blades just a little concerned? To be fair, for the last few years you've all been telling anyone who'd listen, how much dosh you had swilling around, how you're on course for the Prem (which you should hope to be with your resources), only to find out that some players have the gall to not want to play for you, and that the management team don't seem to give a stuff one way or the other? You have sold all your best players as if Blackwell (or McCabe) is on some sort of suicide mission. It is a great deal you've pulled off, but surely there must be warning bells ringing somewhere? Snook 22-01-2010, 11:38 Totally irrelevant point about Wednesday's sales. I don't think anybody's digging here at all. Aren't Blades just a little concerned? To be fair, for the last few years you've all been telling anyone who'd listen, how much dosh you had swilling around, how you're on course for the Prem (which you should hope to be with your resources), only to find out that some players have the gall to not want to play for you, and that the management team don't seem to give a stuff one way or the other? You have sold all your best players as if Blackwell (or McCabe) is on some sort of suicide mission. It is a great deal you've pulled off, but surely there must be warning bells ringing somewhere? I think this sale is only the same as Wood leaving Wednesday. It's always crap when your best players leave but I wouldn't say it is worrying. We are a Championship side and look to remain for for at least another year and a half. There is no point giving in to stupid wage demands if it is going to stretch the club to breaking point. I think it is better to have a strong squad than a few great players surrounded by average players. No team in the Championship can realistically hope to keep the likes of Kilgallon or Beattie. Earwiggo 22-01-2010, 11:56 I think this sale is only the same as Wood leaving Wednesday. It's always crap when your best players leave but I wouldn't say it is worrying. We are a Championship side and look to remain for for at least another year and a half. There is no point giving in to stupid wage demands if it is going to stretch the club to breaking point. I think it is better to have a strong squad than a few great players surrounded by average players. No team in the Championship can realistically hope to keep the likes of Kilgallon or Beattie. Yeah, you were always resigned to losing Killa, and, similar to Wood, he decided months ago that he wanted to go. If Wednesday were blessed with Uniteds supposed wealth, the probability is, is that Wood would have stayed. Purse wouldn't have arrived? The interest from Cov last year would have been rejected, and a 'proper' contract would have been drawn up for him. That way, any further interest in Wood wouldn't have been forthcoming. This time round, because of management mistakes, I don't think a massive contract offer would have made Wood stay. Going to Cov is still very difficult to understand, but as far as I know, no Prem club was interested. With United's decent chance of promotion this season, if I were a Blade, Killa still being keen to go would concern me. Your better players have dwindled away quite alarmingly over the last 2 or 3years. If the same had happened at Hillsborough, God knows where we'd be. True, none of Wednesday's players could probably make the step up to the Prem, so no real interest has been shown (other than Burnley) so maybe this tells us all summat. Naughton still has plenty of time to make it in the Prem (and he CAN play) and only time will tell if Killa's good enough. alex3659 22-01-2010, 11:59 Your better players have dwindled away quite alarmingly over the last 2 or 3years. If the same had happened at Hillsborough, God knows where we'd be. It did happen and your in the mess your in now. Earwiggo 22-01-2010, 12:11 It did happen and your in the mess your in now. Not in the last 2 or 3 years. You have to go back a bit longer than that. We're in the mess we're in now because of proper idiots running the club in the mid 90's. Losing Brunt and Bougherra etc, was a result of the mess, not a cause of it. alex3659 22-01-2010, 12:19 Not in the last 2 or 3 years. You have to go back a bit longer than that. We're in the mess we're in now because of proper idiots running the club in the mid 90's. Losing Brunt and Bougherra etc, was a result of the mess, not a cause of it. Not seen anyone come to bail you out either which is what McCABE did for us. daftlad 22-01-2010, 12:50 I think this sale is only the same as Wood leaving Wednesday. It's always crap when your best players leave but I wouldn't say it is worrying. We are a Championship side and look to remain for for at least another year and a half. There is no point giving in to stupid wage demands if it is going to stretch the club to breaking point. I think it is better to have a strong squad than a few great players surrounded by average players. No team in the Championship can realistically hope to keep the likes of Kilgallon or Beattie. You have to bear in mind as well its the scummy agents that are turning the players heads as well. i just wish these parasites were not involved in football at all. They take a lot of money out of football and put fxxk all back in Earwiggo 22-01-2010, 12:57 Not seen anyone come to bail you out either which is what McCABE did for us. Dave Allen bailed us out an'all. He only bailed a third of the water out, but it helped. Jazzybmzoo 22-01-2010, 13:04 I think you lot are overlooking one huge point (ok, maybe two). He is your only Premiership quality player and has left a huge gaping hole in the defence. Who steps in to fill that then? You'r not gonna get better for £1m. Also another large fact the Blunts seem to be leg-swerving is ok, it may be good business (agreed, with the fee v length of contract), but the very fact his head was turned in the first place must be of concern. For Christ sake, every decent player that could help get you out of this very tough league, you've sold. And you seem happy with it. :confused: rivelinblade 22-01-2010, 13:09 I think you lot are overlooking one huge point (ok, maybe two). He is your only Premiership quality player and has left a huge gaping hole in the defence. Who steps in to fill that then? You'r not gonna get better for £1m. Also another large fact the Blunts seem to be leg-swerving is ok, it may be good business (agreed, with the fee v length of contract), but the very fact his head was turned in the first place must be of concern. For Christ sake, every decent player that could help get you out of this very tough league, you've sold. And you seem happy with it. :confused: Well Seip seems to be doing just fine so far . . . missymoo73 22-01-2010, 13:09 I think you lot are overlooking one huge point (ok, maybe two). He is your only Premiership quality player and has left a huge gaping hole in the defence. Who steps in to fill that then? You'r not gonna get better for £1m. Also another large fact the Blunts seem to be leg-swerving is ok, it may be good business (agreed, with the fee v length of contract), but the very fact his head was turned in the first place must be of concern. For Christ sake, every decent player that could help get you out of this very tough league, you've sold. And you seem happy with it. :confused: Some seem happy with it not all - me being one of them Earwiggo 22-01-2010, 13:16 Sorry miss. Are you not happy with it then? Your post is a bit ..... uncertain! Snook 22-01-2010, 13:22 Some seem happy with it not all - me being one of them I don't think anyone is actually happy to see a good player go, but you can't be upset getting good money for someone who only has a few months left. I think the fact that we are losing Premier League quality players is 100% expected, because we are not a Premier League team. I would be very worried if we start losing first team players to Championship teams, which is why I was a lot more worried about Cotts going to Swansea, but I understand that he wasn't part of the first team plans. I think when you lose first team regulars to teams in the same division then you have given up all hopes of promotion. BLADES-EELA 22-01-2010, 13:34 At the end of the day whats done is done no matter wat us blades or you pigs say, nothing will change. Personally wat i saw in seip i was very pleased with and it didnt look any different without kila there against boro - which we also won without him there. At the end of the day if we are gunna go up we should be good enough to go up with or without killa, as there is 10 other on the pitch who should be good enough witout the game surrounding killgallon rivelinblade 22-01-2010, 13:44 At the end of the day whats done is done no matter wat us blades or you pigs say, nothing will change. Personally wat i saw in seip i was very pleased with and it didnt look any different without kila there against boro - which we also won without him there. At the end of the day if we are gunna go up we should be good enough to go up with or without killa, as there is 10 other on the pitch who should be good enough witout the game surrounding killgallon Totally agree. And apart from Seip who's impressed me so far, we have Del Geary - remember his recent goal line clearance - and Naysmith when he finally returns. Never really regarded Killa as pivotal to our success - useful, talented, yes, but not vital. Ousetunes 22-01-2010, 13:58 I don't think anyone is actually happy to see a good player go, but you can't be upset getting good money for someone who only has a few months left. I think the fact that we are losing Premier League quality players is 100% expected, because we are not a Premier League team. I would be very worried if we start losing first team players to Championship teams, which is why I was a lot more worried about Cotts going to Swansea, but I understand that he wasn't part of the first team plans. I think when you lose first team regulars to teams in the same division then you have given up all hopes of promotion. This is spot-on. Kilgallon's mind has been some place else since rumours circulated about other clubs' interest and it has affected his form. But it's not the end of the world. I recall United selling Glenn Cockerill and my thinking that it spelled the end for the club's chances of getting out of the old second division. The Blades went on a blinding run storming to the second place in the division. Naturally, we ballsed it up when it mattered, but that team actually improved after the Star Player left. I predict the loss of Kilgallon will allow other players to come through and might actually get the team playing better. rivelinblade 22-01-2010, 14:04 This is spot-on. Kilgallon's mind has been some place else since rumours circulated about other clubs' interest and it has affected his form. But it's not the end of the world. I recall United selling Glenn Cockerill and my thinking that it spelled the end for the club's chances of getting out of the old second division. The Blades went on a blinding run storming to the second place in the division. Naturally, we ballsed it up when it mattered, but that team actually improved after the Star Player left. I predict the loss of Kilgallon will allow other players to come through and might actually get the team playing better. So it goes . . . remember what happened after Beatts was moved on - as the hoof it up the field to beattie option closed, the rest of the team started taking it in turns to put it in the net alex3659 22-01-2010, 15:13 Dave Allen bailed us out an'all. He only bailed a third of the water out, but it helped. I agree with you but I have not seen another wednesday fan on this forum who would agree with us. Driving Dave Allen out was a big mistake, who has invested any money into your club since him? All the water he bailed out has well and truly leaked back in since his departure. missymoo73 22-01-2010, 15:54 Sorry miss. Are you not happy with it then? Your post is a bit ..... uncertain! no not happy as stated in an earlier post hun :P hurstyowl 22-01-2010, 20:12 no not happy as stated in an earlier post hun :P thats because her eye candy has left. am i right or am i right :P LADYBIRDS 22-01-2010, 20:19 I agree with you but I have not seen another wednesday fan on this forum who would agree with us. Driving Dave Allen out was a big mistake, who has invested any money into your club since him? All the water he bailed out has well and truly leaked back in since his departure. i bet Altyowl does not agree!:) NERVY-OWL 22-01-2010, 20:25 I agree with you but I have not seen another wednesday fan on this forum who would agree with us. Driving Dave Allen out was a big mistake, who has invested any money into your club since him? All the water he bailed out has well and truly leaked back in since his departure. no wednesday fan would want allen back as far as i know. us owls, unlike you blades know what was happening with him in charge. we would definately be in administration by now with him there. allen didn't 'invest' money, he loaned it with probably sky high interest rates. at least with strafford not putting money in we don't have any more loans to pay out. anyway this is about killgallon not him:D kevvv 22-01-2010, 20:27 [QUOTE=CorkerSWFC;5852204 , still your best player is an ex Chestfield player, # doesnt matter where a player comes from. if hes good hes good alex3659 22-01-2010, 20:29 no wednesday fan would want allen back as far as i know. us owls, unlike you blades know what was happening with him in charge. we would definately be in administration by now with him there. allen didn't 'invest' money, he loaned it with probably sky high interest rates. at least with strafford not putting money in we don't have any more loans to pay out. anyway this is about killgallon not him:D Davey look at the post I was answering, it was from an owl. Like my post says, I doubt any other owls on here would agree. You know what people are like at chucking a name in to stir things up. Just check the posts back mate. NERVY-OWL 22-01-2010, 20:32 Davey look at the post I was answering, it was from an owl. Like my post says, I doubt any other owls on here would agree. You know what people are like at chucking a name in to stir things up. Just check the posts back mate. na, i know he did do something to help the club at the beginning, so with you both there but in the end he was doing more harm than good, best off without which i guess most owls would agree with:thumbsup: alex3659 22-01-2010, 20:34 na, i know he did do something to help the club at the beginning, so with you both there but in the end he was doing more harm than good, best off without which i guess most owls would agree with:thumbsup: We've done it before mate times many. It's history, tomorrow is what it's all about. NERVY-OWL 22-01-2010, 20:42 We've done it before mate times many. It's history, tomorrow is what it'sall about. indeed:thumbsup: missymoo73 23-01-2010, 08:28 I don't think anyone is actually happy to see a good player go, but you can't be upset getting good money for someone who only has a few months left. I think the fact that we are losing Premier League quality players is 100% expected, because we are not a Premier League team. I would be very worried if we start losing first team players to Championship teams, which is why I was a lot more worried about Cotts going to Swansea, but I understand that he wasn't part of the first team plans. I think when you lose first team regulars to teams in the same division then you have given up all hopes of promotion. I can see your point hun but I just worry who we are gunna get to replace him thats all. He only had a few months left but they are crucial months in the football season. I would have just liked him to stay till the end. But good luck to him (and his dodgy hair do :hihi:) I hope he goes well at Sunderland - least he kept the red and white theme going :D missymoo73 23-01-2010, 08:30 thats because her eye candy has left. am i right or am i right :P No you are very wrong hun. He's a nice fella but def not my type - I prefer more rugby types tbh ;) :D although I do like Chris Morgan - nowt wrong with a bit of ruff rofl SgtDave 23-01-2010, 11:45 He was always going to go so the club is better off getting something for him now rather then let him go for nothing at the end of the season. Once the rot sets in, the best thing for both sides is to part company. He's done his bit for the club, we've made a profit on him, so let's just wish him the best for the future and move on ourselves. |