I somehow think this won't be a popular idea amongst the crowds..

BBC Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4147058.stm)

Originally posted by D2J
I somehow think this won't be a popular idea amongst the crowds..

BBC Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4147058.stm)

Thats outragous! Why should I pay 7 pounds a pint because some people cant control themselves? If the police enforced existing laws about being drunk and disorderly in public the problem could also be solved. Poeple wouldnt do it if they knew a large fine and a criminal record awaited them.

Originally posted by nightrider
Thats outragous! Why should I pay 7 pounds a pint because some people cant control themselves? If the police enforced existing laws about being drunk and disorderly in public the problem could also be solved. People wouldnt do it if they knew a large fine and a criminal record awaited them.

Totally agree, they should enforce the laws more and maybe slap bans (similar to ASBO's) on those how cannot handle a drink. Hit them with large fines too that can be put back into Policing at night

We pay enough and more than many countries

It was this paragraph that made me chuckle..

'But the reality is that our culture and heritage of excessive drinking, combined with the relatively cheap price of alcohol these days'

Which pubs does he drink in then :suspect:

Jeez.....would you want to serve behind a bar and ask someone probably three times your size for seven quid for a pint?!

Not all barstaff come in knuckle dragging economy size...

:loopy:

Mr Wolfendale added that binge drinking was already a bigger challenge to police than terrorism.
Yeah that's right, terrorism's easy. But drinking several pints in one night isn't hard to do is it?
Sorry, couldn't resist :P

It's a silly idea and a total non starter. If the authorities are serious about stopping the drink till you drop mentality they could do several things that wouldn't inpede the social drinker. They could stop the fun hours,or the five shots for £5 type of thing. They could if they wanted make pubs and clubs liable to prosecution if they serve obviously drunk people. Lastly if some-one comes to the attention of the police because they've been stupid and been unable to drink sensibly they should recieve a fine that would put a severe and long lasting dent in their ale money.

Under 30's only

Originally posted by WallBuilder
It's a silly idea and a total non starter. If the authorities are serious about stopping the drink till you drop mentality they could do several things that wouldn't inpede the social drinker. They could stop the fun hours,or the five shots for £5 type of thing. They could if they wanted make pubs and clubs liable to prosecution if they serve obviously drunk people. Lastly if some-one comes to the attention of the police because they've been stupid and been unable to drink sensibly they should recieve a fine that would put a severe and long lasting dent in their ale money.

Yes, so silly they actually implemented it in sweden and norway. I bet the general public there were none too pleased either...

isnt it already illegal to serve someone who is drunk? This is what annoys me. The police and politicians always want new laws (like the asbo to stop someone stealing - why cant they just arrest them for stealing!!?), when if they actually enforced the existing ones they wouldnt need new laws.

I agree that persons who are already drunk should not be served - however, it may be difficult to implement that as many landlords may become the subject of violence by the person they refuse to serve.

can I beat tghe **** out of the police chief? PLEASE

anyhow. coppers are bigger drunkards than me. I'll go where they drink

Try and buy a decent continental ale these days for less than that ;)

I often pay £3.50 a half for some of the better stuff.

It seems to be the trend and common thing now for teenagers to down "shots" of high volume, in between normal drinking. Perhaps they should consider banning these or trebling the price of these before targetting the "average" drinker.

I think Mark Steele's solution was typically brilliant.

Don't licence pubs, licence drinkers.

"I'm sorry son, your not licenced for anything over shandy yet".

Its true that you ain't supposed to serve someone who is obviously well bladdered (got this from a mate who works behind a bar), but both he and me have never seen this actually in practice.

So totally in agreement with that - most of the city centre pubs have bouncers now so "I think you want a water instead son" shouldn't cause too many problems, should it?

Maybe this law is no longer in force ? -----But at one time a licensee could refuse to serve anyone they liked -----sober drunk , aggressive , timid -----it didn't matter. They didn't even have to give a reason.
I guess the reasoning behind it was that alcohol selling was such a responsible job that we should put our trust , absolutely , in the hands of the licensee. As someone pointed out , with a sufficient number of , "door personnel " , there should be no problem .
However , does the law still exist ? Anybody know ?

Originally posted by Fareast
Maybe this law is no longer in force ? -----But at one time a licensee could refuse to serve anyone they liked -----sober drunk , aggressive , timid -----it didn't matter. They didn't even have to give a reason.
I guess the reasoning behind it was that alcohol selling was such a responsible job that we should put our trust , absolutely , in the hands of the licensee. As someone pointed out , with a sufficient number of , "door personnel " , there should be no problem .
However , does the law still exist ? Anybody know ?
That's not technically a law. Any trader can refuse to trade at any time.

I know something we do over here which works, and I'm sure would be highly unwelcome in UK. Minimum drinking age is 21. It used to be 18 like back home, but the very high number of deaths by drivers in that age group caused it to be changed. It is up to the individual state, but in reality is nationwide because of the possibility of adjacent states not in compliance causing a rush into trouble. It is strictly enforced.
I noticed the police chief who suggested the seven quid a pint thing is a welshman.Three of the countries that make up the British Isles, England, Scotland, and Ireland have a reputation as hard drinkers, Wales does not appear to be like that. I could be wrong. I know when I was stationed in Wales years ago, the pubs were closed on Sunday.

Originally posted by youwhatref
Totally agree, they should enforce the laws more and maybe slap bans (similar to ASBO's) on those how cannot handle a drink. Hit them with large fines too that can be put back into Policing at night

We pay enough and more than many countries
or create a special ban banning people who are done for violence / trouble after drinking from drinking........they stop footie hooligans from footie matches, why not ban drunks from all pubs and offies.....not totally policeable but gotta be part of the answer, if they know theres a possibillity of being banned it might stop some

I tend to agree with the copper. The culture of binge drinkig in this country is a disgrace. Its boring, and stupid. Why is it so clever to get drunk?? Whats the fascination?????
I think there should be a law in which only 2 pints maximum should be consumed. Thats enough for gods sake.

i like a good drink ....1,2,3,4 pints maybe, not too much these days, but i have been utterly wasted a lot before, mind u i still dont go crazy while drunk.

why should i be penalised cos of asshats?

Originally posted by Sony
I think there should be a law in which only 2 pints maximum should be consumed

Why :confused:

A simple fact, some people enjoy a drink, some people don't

The problems lies with the people who don't know when to stop, you can't restrict those who can drink responsibly for a minority that can't..