Thanks ATS, that answered a question I had . I wasn't sure which school my brothers and cousins would have attended. Colley would seem to be about right, I rang my brother Ken (in Sheffield) last weekend and forgot to ask him.
Cheers.

Anyone remember a family of boys called Shutt?

There was a family called Shutt who lived on Buchanan Crescent. They had two boys who would now be late fifties or so. I think one of them was called John.

It was definitely 3 boys - Raymond, John and I think Malcolm - lived on Milnrow when I knew them

Just to put things into perspective, I'm 67 and went...

to Firth Park Grammar until about 57...

Can you remember the pushbike racing track that we had where Huntsman Pub now stands...

Just to update you, both Firth Park Grammar School and The Huntsman have now been demolished.

Longley Park College http://www.longleypark.ac.uk/ has been built on the FPGS site and appartments are due to be built where the Huntsman was.
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Brian_Cox:
Just to put things into perspective, I'm 67 and went to Lindsay Rd Primary from 1945 to 52 (I think) then went on to Firth Park Grammar until about 57. I started riding motorcycles before I left school so I would have made a racket riding past your place every morning on my way to school or work after that. I worked at Joseph Rodgers and Sons cutlery works as a trainee Cost Accountant for a few years and then went on to the Town Hall working in the Rates Dept collecting overdue accounts.
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You are only a young lad then? I was paying my taxes to pay for your education so that you could chase me later on for my overdue rates!!!.

Thanks ATS, that answered a question I had . I wasn't sure which school my brothers and cousins would have attended. Colley would seem to be about right, I rang my brother Ken (in Sheffield) last weekend and forgot to ask him.
Cheers.

What years do you think they attended. I was in the first intake that went from Year 1 to year 4. I was in the 'A' Stream but often threatened with demotion to 'D' Stream if I didn't improve my 'English Grammar, Spelling & Writing.
Harry Birch was the head, I was told that he lived at Bents Green. His deputies being Alf Shaw, who lived on Cross Hill, Eccesfield. & Mrs Buchanan who came from Southey Green School to Colley but I never knew where she lived. She was my last form teacher and though she taught English, she always gave me Maths to do for homework which was my best subject!!

Happy days when I look back. Although at times, I must have been a little var---T. I'd like to meet someone over the forum, who remembers being in my class at School. Which was from Jan 1951 to Dec 1954.

I'm trying to work out the dates- I was eldest and had three brothers. My brother Ken was 4yrs younger so would have gone to a NPX school from '52 to maybe '56. My youngest brother from '54 to '64- these are rough estimates. I will write to Ken and ask him if he knew you OK.

anyone want to see falstaff road as it looks now?

please click for a picture:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/parson%20cross/pcrosstreesnew.jpg

:)

That's a bit dark.

What about all the big, bright and beautiful public attractions that Parson
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Can anyone recall the Pond that was almost in the centre of the land which Colley Sec Modern School was a built upon?
A draining stream from the pond went under Wordsworth Ave and Rokeby Road, running down, but adjacent to the back gardens of Turie Avenue to eventually run under Colley Road, then between Holgate Crescent and Holgate Drive going under Holgate Road, near the steel houses, and joining the brook (Sheffield Lane Dyke) which ran between the Old Estate and the New estate in 1946.

Many thanks for all your comments and memories you have all shared. I've lived in Parson cross all my life and have thoroughly enjoyed reading all about the estate that i have grow up on. It's has been very educational and i have learnt alot about of the history that surrounds me. once again many thanks.:) :)

For quite some time I have been trying to build a picture in my mind of Parson Cross more than 70 years ago, i.e. the area prior to the major house build of 'Old' Parson Cross in 1937.

Using a rough boundary of Halifax Road, Southey Green Road, Barnsley Road and Church Street/Wheel Lane, it seems that there was very little inside this boundary apart from a much smaller community than today at Ecclesfield and a very much smaller one around the old Magnet pub at Southey. The rest was farmland.

I was therefore surprised to discover that the Jewish Cemetery on Colley Road was apparantly built in 1931 to a design by a Wynyard Dixon. I cannot find anything else that was in that area at that time, not even an access road, and I am curious to know what the thinking was at that time that led our elders to build a cemetery in that location.

Was there a Jewish community in the area at that time?

Maybe someone who knew the area pre-1937 can enlighten me.

Time to ask a Granny.
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It will be very interesting to find the reason why the Jewish Cemetery was situated on Colley Road. especially because it was pre-1937 when it would have been situated in the existing open farm land. When were the homes on Strawberry Ave and Martin Crescent built?

A map of the area in 1855 shows nothing but farmland.

But surprisingly, the High Greave Inn existed back then, more than 150 years ago, and so did Gregg House Bridge.

The area nearby was known as Tun Well Knoll.

Anyone know what a Knoll is ?
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A small natural hill!!!!

A small natural hill!!!!

A small rounded hill or mound or hillock.

Thanks - I thought it was. On the old map it is spelt Knowl and thats what I used for dictionary dot com.

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Today where would Gregg House Bridge be? And is the pond shown which I remember being in the centre of the land used when Colley School was built?

If Dawn Longmore, Rita Schofield or Dia Frost are still around they will remember John Gogley, Jim Helliwell and I pulling Dawn over the piles of earth that was used to fill it in.
Then getting four or six Stokes a piece from Harry Birch.
Along with promising us a future of serving penal servitude.

That's a bit dark.

What about all the big, bright and beautiful public attractions that Parson
Cross has to offer ?
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fair point!

these ones are a bit brighter:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/parson%20cross/falstafftrees.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/sheffieldarchives/parson%20cross/falstaffroadpcross.jpg

most of parson cross looks loads beter i think with the open spaces. it has to be one of the greenest estates in the country.

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I was therefore surprised to discover that the Jewish Cemetery on Colley Road was apparantly built in 1931 to a design by a Wynyard Dixon.


I always though the cemetry was older as some of the graves go back as far 1916, but I guess they could have been transferred from elsewhere.
I think I'm right in saying that there was also a synagogue there, just on the opposite side of the road, although this dispappeared in the 80's

Anyone know what a Knoll is ?

When Kennedy was shot, the conspiracy theorists reckoned that the second shot came from a grassy knoll. This was (still is in fact) a small dome shaped mound beside the road, and can be visited if you're ever in Dallas.
It is a lot closer to the target than the 3rd floor window where Harvey-Oswald was stationed, and seems a much more feasible explanation.

I always though the cemetry was older as some of the graves go back as far 1916, but I guess they could have been transferred from elsewhere.
I think I'm right in saying that there was also a synagogue there, just on the opposite side of the road, although this dispappeared in the 80's

I can't remember a synagogue being used while I lived on the N.P.C. from 1946/7 to 1958. But I'll ask and come back.
I'm going to have a trip up soon to have a good look around and to see what as really changed over the past fifty odd year.

When Kennedy was shot, the conspiracy theorists reckoned that the second shot came from a grassy knoll......

it's amazing what a bit of grass can do to the american president

:hihi:

Has anyone ever produced a population count regarding the numbers, age & sex of those living on the Old Parson Cross along with giving the number and different types of dwellings that exist on the old estate with a comparison using identical detail figures made with those obtained from the New Parson Cross. These figures would need to show and be adjusted for the number of homes that have been sold since 1981.

Hi,
I was born on the Cross in 1955, the seventh of eight kids. My mum and dad were the first to occupy the house on Wordsworth, and mum stayed their for 50 years before moving recently into sheltered accomodation in Hillsborough.
My "territory" was the area at the junction of Wordsworth and Deerlands. My friends and I built a Cycle Speedway track there, and had two teams - PC Eagles (my team) and PC Devils.
Local character was a guy called Pete Howe, born circa 1949, he was the nearest thing we had to a John Lennon. He played guitar (really well as it happens) and sang. He also had outrageous hair and clothes, and had lots of beautiful girlfriends. We were all jealous of him. Local haunts were the Youth Clubs at Meynell, Mansell and Colley schools. I played football for Mansell YC in 1970 - 73.
I went to Thommy More's junior school. In 1966 we reached Football final (lost to Mansell) and Rounders final (beat Lound). I still have the fotos of both teams - collectors'items indeed.
My mum, like many others, went to the shops everyday, and bought stuff for that evening's meal only. No freezers in them days. We had a fixed meal rota. My fave was Meat and Potato pie [Thursdays]. My first "local" was The Beagle. Landlord was a Jewish guy called Joe (Williams?). Lovely guy, kept a great pint of Tetleys......(I'll add more soon if you like)
Hello Bushbaby
I really enjoy your stories about your growing up on the Parson Cross, especially now I realise which family from Wordsworth Avenue you belong to. You see, I met you at your home when you were a child and a very funny scenario ensued that day. I was going out with one of your brothers and he had invited me to your house to meet his mum and dad. I think I went on the bus to Wordsworth Avenue and your brother greeted me at your front door and took me into your sitting room. As you can image I was somewhat nervous, meeting my boyfriend’s parents, but the feeling as I walked into the room I have never forgotten. I knew my boyfriend had a few siblings but it hadn’t occurred to me that you would all be there to meet me. Being an only child I grew up thinking that more than three people in a house was a party. As your brother gently guided me through the open doorway, I was suddenly aware of a room full of seated people, all with their faces turned towards the doorway, towards me - all smiling. Then, being the well-mannered family that you were, you ALL stood up to receive me as I entered the room. I felt like a new celebrity making her first public appearance and I froze on the spot with stage fright. Then my embarrassment suddenly moved sideways into a new realm as the unfolding action made me realise that I wasn’t the main attraction after all. You see, I had brought my best friend with me and it was to her that your mum made a beeline to greet and welcome and it was towards her that you all moved as you took your cue from your mother. Your brother and I were left standing to one side looking in disbelief at the drama – or should I say, Comedy of Errors, happening before our eyes. Then your brother, my boyfriend, said (with a slight edge of panic): “No Mum, this is ---”, and order was restored. Your mum and dad were lovely and the moment of nervousness and embarrassment was soon over. I remember that day with a chuckle and I remember your brother with great affection. I have a photo of your mother and your brother; perhaps you and/or your brother would like a copy. I won’t say which brother it was but the year was 1959 and we were both sweet sixteen!
“Still in Therapy” of Melbourne, Australia

Hi,
I was born on the Cross in 1955, the seventh of eight kids. My mum and dad were the first to occupy the house on Wordsworth, and mum stayed their for 50 years before moving recently into sheltered accomodation in Hillsborough.
My "territory" was the area at the junction of Wordsworth and Deerlands. My friends and I built a Cycle Speedway track there, and had two teams - PC Eagles (my team) and PC Devils.
Local character was a guy called Pete Howe, born circa 1949, he was the nearest thing we had to a John Lennon. He played guitar (really well as it happens) and sang. He also had outrageous hair and clothes, and had lots of beautiful girlfriends. We were all jealous of him. Local haunts were the Youth Clubs at Meynell, Mansell and Colley schools. I played football for Mansell YC in 1970 - 73.
I went to Thommy More's junior school. In 1966 we reached Football final (lost to Mansell) and Rounders final (beat Lound). I still have the fotos of both teams - collectors'items indeed.
My mum, like many others, went to the shops everyday, and bought stuff for that evening's meal only. No freezers in them days. We had a fixed meal rota. My fave was Meat and Potato pie [Thursdays]. My first "local" was The Beagle. Landlord was a Jewish guy called Joe (Williams?). Lovely guy, kept a great pint of Tetleys..(I'll add more soon if you like)

whats your name, iam from the cross and went to colley school

does anyone remember vinny pellegrina ?

I'm a long time out of Sheffield, in fact out of England but that Pub name you mentioned (The Beagle) really rings a bell. Just where is it (or was It)?

Hello Bushbaby
I have a photo of your mother and your brother; perhaps you and/or your brother would like a copy.

What a lovely story. Sounds just like us
I'd love a copy of the foto . I'll send you a private mail..

I'm a long time out of Sheffield, in fact out of England but that Pub name you mentioned (The Beagle) really rings a bell. Just where is it (or was It)?
It is on Knutton Crescent, at the top where it crosses Knutton Rd, next to the field/footpath that leads to Chaucer Rd.

does anyone remember vinny pellegrina ?

I knew Tony and Stewart Pellegrina. Is this the same family? Tony was landlord at The Beagle. Died last year sadly. Stewart will be 48/49 years old

does anyone remember vinny pellegrina ?

Was ' Vinny ' a miner at Smithywood Colliery, Thorpe Hesley in the 1955 - 8?

It is on Knutton Crescent, at the top where it crosses Knutton Rd, next to the field/footpath that leads to Chaucer Rd.

Brian Cox - Are you glad that you now have a Map?

hi dont know if i know you but you mentioned my name ?I lived at shiregreen in 66 onwards and remember quite a few characters from the cross area as we spent most of our time there.
there was a man who everybody ran away from called arnie
he was probably very sweet but because he was a bit different
the kids were scared of him. poor arnie.

Also well known large families -kerrigans, staniland's, crookes ,sutherlands, wilsons, were around at that time.

We also went to colley youth club-69 to 70 ish.
And we had a lot of friends who went to colley school.
- graham daggert, mick peacock,malc young, john brice- i think.
and someone nicknamed hoof.
anyone know these.

Also one of my relatives lived near tavern i think, he was called Alf and only had one leg.

does anyone remember vinny pellegrina ?
I knew Stuart.:)

Today where would Gregg House Bridge be?

It's nothing spectacular.

It's in the dip of Barnsley Road, between the end of Deerlands Avenue (where The Huntsman used to be) and the bottom of Colley Road. It spans the small stream called Sheffield Lane Dyke or Tongue Gutter.

I just wonder if that stream used to be bigger in days gone by - before all the concrete and drains were laid down.

I always though the cemetry was older as some of the graves go back as far 1916, but I guess they could have been transferred from elsewhere.


You're quite right...

I've just found a map of 1894 that shows the Jewish Burial Ground - the monument was added in 1931.

Here's a photo of a bunch of kids on Wordsworth in Summer 1960.
See if you recognise anyone?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/ParsonCross/photo#5062184128085838482

Here's a photo of a bunch of kids on Wordsworth in Summer 1960.
See if you recognise anyone?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/ParsonCross/photo#5062184128085838482

Bushbaby
That is a lovely photograph and I sincerely hope that someone will provide further connections to it and probably a few more photographs that include one or two more like it.
To me this is what photographs are all about - Revising memory's.
Unfortunately I left the area in 1958 when owning a camera was in the remit of the millionaires!!
We all may have our moans and groans - But we all are basically better off now.
May be some better than others.

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2220092]Bushbaby
That is a lovely photograph
To me this is what photographs are all about - Revising memory's.
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Thanks Albert, my thoughts entirely.
In case you hadn't sussed it, I'm the little dirty faced kid stood in the middle of the front row. (Steve Bush)

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2220092]Bushbaby
That is a lovely photograph
To me this is what photographs are all about - Revising memory's.
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Thanks Albert, my thoughts entirely.
In case you hadn't sussed it, I'm the little dirty faced kid stood in the middle of the front row. (Steve Bush)

Had Ian Booker got a elder brother? The brother would be 69 or 70 now.
Around that time at Colley my younger twin sisters attended they are called Irene and Kathleen. ( Both now married but still calling to nag poor me!!! )

Here's a photo of a bunch of kids on Wordsworth in Summer 1960.
See if you recognise anyone?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/ParsonCross/photo#5062184128085838482

I went to Yew Lane with David Goodwin.

I went to Yew Lane with David Goodwin.
Dave's now doing very well for himself.
Live's close to Birmingham, and is a director of Sheffield Insulations

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Had Ian Booker got a elder brother? The brother would be 69 or 70 now.
Around that time at Colley my younger twin sisters attended they are called Irene and Kathleen. ( Both now married but still calling to nag poor me!!! )
Ian had three older brothers;
Pete, who did National Service with the REME was the closest to the age you suggested. Motor Bike mad like his dad, Vic. The house in the background on the foto (385) is where he lived,and he did go to Colley.
The other two brothers were Alan and Bernard. They'd be 66 and 62 (ish) respectively.
We always pronounced their name "BOO-Ker" rather than Bucker. Not sure why.

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Ian had three older brothers;
Pete, who did National Service with the REME was the closest to the age you suggested. Motor Bike mad like his dad, Vic. The house in the background on the foto (385) is where he lived,and he did go to Colley.
The other two brothers were Alan and Bernard. They'd be 66 and 62 (ish) respectively.
We always pronounced their name "BOO-Ker" rather than Bucker. Not sure why.

If Pete Booker is still with us ask him if he can recall Terry Smith, John Godley, Jim Hellewell, David Coleman. If he can, He should join the forum.

We always pronounced their name "BOO-Ker" rather than Bucker. Not sure why.
(Cus we were ignorant little gits!!!)

Here's a photo of a bunch of kids on Wordsworth in Summer 1960.
See if you recognise anyone?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/ParsonCross/photo#5062184128085838482

Work with a guy who knew the Bush's, including one who could walk on his hands (John?) Might know him as Barney and wishes to be remembered to you. He's not online himself I'm afraid.

Might know him as Barney

Steve Raybold?
If so, he was a good footballer. Fast winger.
Once played on telly (ask him about it)
I think he's a Silversmith

We could all walk on our hands

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2227131][QUOTE=Bushbaby;2225798]
If Pete Booker is still with us ask him if he can recall Terry Smith, John Godley, Jim Hellewell, David Coleman. If he can, He should join the forum.
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If I get chance I will Albert

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2227131][QUOTE=Bushbaby;2225798]
If Pete Booker is still with us ask him if he can recall Terry Smith, John Godley, Jim Hellewell, David Coleman. If he can, He should join the forum.
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If I get chance I will Albert

Tell him that Harry Birch, Joe Shaw and Mrs ??? Buchanan were all wrong.
I never went down the Nick!!!

Work with a guy who knew the Bush's, including one who could walk on his hands (John?) Might know him as Barney and wishes to be remembered to you. He's not online himself I'm afraid.

I'm John, I can still walk on my hands [a bit] give my best wishes to barney. A great guy. What about the picture of the kids on Wordsworth,we look like war orphans.

is that albert smith who lived on holgate crescent?
do you remember al jolson from the manor?

dear bushbaby,
thanks for all the info.
I,ve recently been trying to find the origin of the name"Bell Hagg" an outcrop of millstone grit over-looking Rivelin Valley. The Old English Dictionaries have been unhelpful. Apparantly a hagg is a clearing demarked by a hedge but more than this I know not.
Any siggestions?
Flonks

dear bushbaby,
thanks for all the info.
Apparantly a hagg is a clearing demarked by a hedge
Flonks

BELL HAGG
From old Norse – Bale or Belle Hagi meaning a fire common.

dear bushbaby,
thanks for all the info.
I,ve recently been trying to find the origin of the name"Bell Hagg" an outcrop of millstone grit over-looking Rivelin Valley. The Old English Dictionaries have been unhelpful. Apparantly a hagg is a clearing demarked by a hedge but more than this I know not.
Any siggestions?
Flonks

A glossary of words used in the neighbourhood of Sheffield
Local Names
by Sidney Addy

In 1637 Bell Hagg was an open common, including Burntstones, and containing about eighty acres. It was one of the moors upon which the owners of toft-steads in the village of Crookes turned their cattle in summer. 'Burnt Stones' and 'Burnt Stanes' are marked on the ordnance survey map as two distinct places adjoining each other. It is strange that the two names should be found together, and the explanation may be that two large fires were kindled, the cattle being driven, according to the ancient rite, between them.

It is, in my opinion, certain that here was the place where bale-fires were formerly made. I do not in any way attempt, as some writers have done, to connect those fires with the worship of Baal, although 'undoubtedly,' says Jacob Grimm, 'Beal must be taken for a divine being, whose worship is likely to have extended beyond the Celtic nations.' (Teut. Myth., i. 614.)

There can be no doubt that the inhabitants of Hallam and Crookes were accustomed to make these mysterious bale-fires in this very place. One of the forms of bale, used in the year 1420, is belle.Moreover, it is easy to understand how in a word of two syllables the old form bæl would be shortened into bell.

I have no doubt that hagg here represents the old Norse hagi, pasturage or common.About a mile to the west is Fox hagg.The village feast of Crookes is still held on the first of May—the day of the triumphal entry of the Summer, and the day on which the festival of Beltein was kept.

A glossary of words used in the neighbourhood of Sheffield
Local Names
by Sidney Addy

In 1637 Bell Hagg was an open common, including Burntstones, and containing about eighty acres. It was one of the moors upon which the owners of toft-steads in the village of Crookes turned their cattle in summer. 'Burnt Stones' and 'Burnt Stanes' are marked on the ordnance survey map as two distinct places adjoining each other. It is strange that the two names should be found together, and the explanation may be that two large fires were kindled, the cattle being driven, according to the ancient rite, between them.

It is, in my opinion, certain that here was the place where bale-fires were formerly made. I do not in any way attempt, as some writers have done, to connect those fires with the worship of Baal, although 'undoubtedly,' says Jacob Grimm, 'Beal must be taken for a divine being, whose worship is likely to have extended beyond the Celtic nations.' (Teut. Myth., i. 614.)

There can be no doubt that the inhabitants of Hallam and Crookes were accustomed to make these mysterious bale-fires in this very place. One of the forms of bale, used in the year 1420, is belle.Moreover, it is easy to understand how in a word of two syllables the old form bæl would be shortened into bell.

I have no doubt that hagg here represents the old Norse hagi, pasturage or common.About a mile to the west is Fox hagg.The village feast of Crookes is still held on the first of May—the day of the triumphal entry of the Summer, and the day on which the festival of Beltein was kept.

Is this one of the reasons that they elected a Social-Dem for the city council?

is that albert smith who lived on holgate crescent?
do you remember al jolson from the manor?

I can remember as clear as day light ' Al ' walking down Windy House Lane with his jet black face, pure white eye sockets, rosy red lips carrying a umbrella singing, ' Mama, Mama, Where are you my Mama '.

And I can remember Mam-Marr giving him a good clip around his ear hole and sending off to bed early for putting soot on his face, using her white donkey stone and lip stick as well has getting soot all over his clothes.

Anyway its nice for you to join us, you'll soon pick it up, But you are on the wrong thread. This is for the Old & New Parson Cross memories. So think of some and get them written down and posted for someone, somewhere, sometime to follow and read.

For starters ' Who was the leader of Linsey Youth Club?'.
Another thread about the Sheffield Technical College is started, you could have a read, then put your half pennorth in that.

Is this one of the reasons that they elected a Social-Dem for the city council?
No
That was because the incumbents simply forgot why they were there in the first place.

Will they never learn?

re; albert t smith,is it true that ibought a pound off you for a half -crown,
and what happened to the hare that you kept in the kitchen cupboard,
rayzor1.

No
That was because the incumbents simply forgot why they were there in the first place.

Will they never learn?

I agree with you 100% but over the past 20 years the tide is slowly turning so I look forward (Or someone else should) to a better future.
But we are on the wrong thread. This is for Parson Cross new & Old.

re; albert t smith,is it true that ibought a pound off you for a half -crown,
and what happened to the hare that you kept in the kitchen cupboard,
rayzor1.

Don't show me up!!!!!
Start another thread or I'll come and put thi over my knee as OLD as you are.

hi i lived at parsons cross for 16years i went to primary and seconrey school there i think it was a good estate people say that they would never live there but when you have grown up there its a diffent storey there is lots of things i could tell you about parsons cross as im only 20 years old i no a lot of people there good and bad people its just a sham they have pulled all the houses down i had some good times on my home ground as i call it.

There was a family called Shutt who lived on Buchanan Crescent. They had two boys who would now be late fifties or so. I think one of them was called John.


i lived on that road im only 20 tho

hi i lived at parsons cross for 16years .

Out of interest Kittie, are there any facilities for 14 to 16 year olds? I'm thinking of Youth Clubs or other such social centres.
One of my gripes is the disappearance of these venues, as they played a big part in my adolescence, and they really did keep kids off the streets

Out of interest Kittie, are there any facilities for 14 to 16 year olds? I'm thinking of Youth Clubs or other such social centres.
One of my gripes is the disappearance of these venues, as they played a big part in my adolescence, and they really did keep kids off the streets


hi if you would aksed 10years ago i would have said ye but now there is nothing there are a few youth clubs its not like it used to be there is nothing there anymore cuz most off it as been pulled down the both houses that i lived in got pulled down and there was no need for it they was not bad streets and lets face it there have no intention of doing anything with all the land they have got from pulling them down.

re; albert t smith,is it true that ibought a pound off you for a half -crown,
and what happened to the hare that you kept in the kitchen cupboard,
rayzor1.

I've just started a thread.
Did you live on the Manor Estate 1930 1950s This should be about the Parson Cross.
Get your memory's down on the new thread.
For starters:- What was the name of the vicar at St Swithens who when you was a choir boy, give you a wallop for reading the 'Hot Spur' whilst he was giving his sermon. Did we all go to Snaith, Nr Doncaster once to see him off or did he retire.
And its true that, in my young innocence, I sold you a £1.00 for a Shilling.

Got another nice photo here. This was taken at a wedding in Newark 1972, but nearly all the guys in it are off The Cross
I've had a stab at the names but apologies for mistakes

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/Wedding/photo#s5064851430854783426

Anyone know the two unknown fellas??

hi i lived at parsons cross for 16years i went to primary and seconrey school there i think it was a good estate people say that they would never live there but when you have grown up there its a diffent storey there is lots of things i could tell you about parsons cross as im only 20 years old i no a lot of people there good and bad people its just a sham they have pulled all the houses down i had some good times on my home ground as i call it.

I do hope that you put in your ' Pennies Worth ' to the thread, Kittie 86.
Anything that you can recall is history. Someone, sometime will be very pleased that you took the trouble to write it down.

hi if you would aksed 10years ago i would have said ye but now there is nothing there are a few youth clubs its not like it used to be there is nothing there anymore cuz most off it as been pulled down the both houses that i lived in got pulled down and there was no need for it they was not bad streets and lets face it there have no intention of doing anything with all the land they have got from pulling them down.
I'm with Albert here Kittie. Your stories are valuable, let's hear them.
Which school did you go to? Where did your mum shop? Is the dartboard in the Parson Cross Hotel still on the wall just inside the door, so that newcomers have about a one in three chance of gettin' a dart in the head?

Is the dartboard in the Parson Cross Hotel still on the wall just inside the door, so that newcomers have about a one in three chance of gettin' a dart in the head?

. . . Reminds me of a time in the sixties when some Nuns and Bishops used to play darts against each other in the Parson Cross Hotel.

On one occasion a Bishop scored a double top followed by another double top.

Unfortunately his third arrow hit the wire, bounced out and struck a Nun who was marking the scoreboard. Sadly, she died instantly.


. . . ''One nun dead an eighty'' exclaimed the Bishop.
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Got another nice photo here. This was taken at a wedding in Newark 1972, but nearly all the guys in it are off The Cross
I've had a stab at the names but apologies for mistakes

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/Wedding/photo#s5064851430854783426

Anyone know the two unknown fellas??

Could they be Josie's realtions/friends?

Got another nice photo here. This was taken at a wedding in Newark 1972, but nearly all the guys in it are off The Cross
I've had a stab at the names but apologies for mistakes

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/Wedding/photo#s5064851430854783426

Anyone know the two unknown fellas??

Could they be Josie's realtions/friends?
Flonks

I remember Parson Cross, the part where the Essoldo pictures was, we used to go there on a Saturday afternoon for the kids picture shows, it was threepunce to get in we watched a cartoon then a serial I remember Flash Gordon[ the b/w 1930's version] then a feature film, proberbly from the childrens film foundation[ i used to love those films] anyone else remember these films?. I also remember Hillards being opened by Miss UK in 1971, my Gran live just at the back on Swanbourne Rd, there was also the library were we spent all of our 6 weeks holidays practically. I have very very fond memories of Parson Cross, infact still have realatives who still live there.

[QUOTE=me1961;2248752]then a feature film, proberbly from the childrens film foundation[ i used to love those films] anyone else remember these films?. QUOTE]
Go Kart Go (1964), starring a very young Denis Waterman, was a favourite of mine. I saw it at "The Ritz" - Sheffield's poshest cinema - one summer saturday morning, eating a Payne's poppett and supping Kia-Ora. It was the day my brother (Twinbush) won the yo-yo competition.
They don't make them like that anymore...

Here are a couple of lovely photos fromTommy More’s School in 1966

The foorball team reached the final of the Ecclesfield & District knock-out cup, losing narrowly to Mansell in the final, in the same week as Wednesday lost at Wembley
The rounders team went one better, winning the Gala Competition a few weeks later, defeating Lound in the final

It would be great to hear from any of my team mates from these occasions

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/TommyMoreS/photo#s5067046923153280002

Here are a couple of lovely photos fromTommy More’s School in 1966

The foorball team reached the final of the Ecclesfield & District knock-out cup, losing narrowly to Mansell in the final, in the same week as Wednesday lost at Wembley
The rounders team went one better, winning the Gala Competition a few weeks later, defeating Lound in the final

It would be great to hear from any of my team mates from these occasions

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/TommyMoreS/photo#s5067046923153280002

I've tried to PM but your box is full.My brother would like to ring you Re Paddy,If possible

I've tried to PM but your box is full.My brother would like to ring you Re Paddy,If possible

Ive emptied it now Gangan

Got another nice photo here. This was taken at a wedding in Newark 1972, but nearly all the guys in it are off The Cross
I've had a stab at the names but apologies for mistakes

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/Wedding/photo#s5064851430854783426

Anyone know the two unknown fellas??


My brother says No 13 is Norman Jones and No 17 is Mick Waldren.

Here's a photo of your brother,on holiday, and my brother who is in the centre.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/DavidSPaddybushhol.jpg

My brother says No 13 is Norman Jones and No 17 is Mick Waldren.

Here's a photo of your brother,on holiday, and my brother who is in the centre.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/DavidSPaddybushhol.jpg

All the blokes in the photo are ex members of St. Thomas More Football Team circa 1970
Tony Bush

All the blokes in the photo are ex members of St. Thomas More Football Team circa 1970
Tony Bush

Some more pictures of the football team..:)


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/7DS.jpg


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/image-1.jpg


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/Davidatfootballwedding.jpg


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/2DS.jpg

[QUOTE=Gangan;2309885]Some more pictures of the football team..:)

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Wow, theyr'e lovely pictures Pat
The outdoor one in red/ black shirts is taken in Colley Rec on Remington Rd. The houses in the background are the Malt Houses going down Wordsworth towards Ecclesfield.
Is the wedding at Ecco church? Looks like it could be.

Not sure about the others - looks like they're on holiday somewhere.

As I was growing up, I seem to remember that these guys were always laughing and enjoying themselves. These fotos back that memory up.
Precious indeed.

Bushbaby,
The wedding was at Ecclesfield Church.
The holiday was in Majorca.Do you recognise any of them?My brother knows who they all are.
I got your PM and will try to send you more pics to your E.Mail address.

can hardly remember anybody, must be getting old, ask him if he remembers me David Neckarski, or John Marsh, Ian Richardsen, Caroline Walker

Hi David, yes I remember all of them, and many, many more

I read in last weekend's Final, that the Malthouses on Wordsworth, whose demise was previously discussed in this thread, had been given a stay of execution, but that similar buildings on Mansell Ave and Mansell Cres (are they Malthouses too?) were gonna be pulled down.
Apparently they are "Beyond Economical Repair"

I read in last weekend's Final, that the Malthouses on Wordsworth, whose demise was previously discussed in this thread, had been given a stay of execution, but that similar buildings on Mansell Ave and Mansell Cres (are they Malthouses too?) were gonna be pulled down.
Apparently they are "Beyond Economical Repair"


I'm sure that some, or all, of the Mansel ones have a flat roof - sooner or later always a problem with water seeping in, freezing in winter, expanding and causing structural problems.
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it`s about time befor they fall down

I read in last weekend's Final, that the Malthouses on Wordsworth, whose demise was previously discussed in this thread, had been given a stay of execution, but that similar buildings on Mansell Ave and Mansell Cres (are they Malthouses too?) were gonna be pulled down.
Apparently they are "Beyond Economical Repair"

I remember the Malthouses being built at both Wordsworth Ave and Mansel Road in 1946/7. I believe the idea was to cut the time spent building houses by constructing sections on site in sections, then put all the pieces together.
If the main problem is of rusting re-enforcing steel mesh making the homes defective it is unfortunate.
Is the builder, ' Malthouse ' still building houses?

it`s about time befor they fall down
It's where Jinks used to live, so I'm surprised they haven't already!!

jinks wow! the last time i saw him was in a pub at the top of droppingwell lane
with his girlfriend and guess what her father owned the pub ,:partyhat:
bring back the old cross and the good people that used to live there it will never be the same again like [ sam the tramp ] [tabhunter] [stan @ ron] [oat cake man] bring back the RAG MAN always remember his call of-ric of-ric! of-ric

There used to be another van called Marigold.

Fletchers Bakeries were bought out by Northern Foods in 1999. Nowadays they mainly produce bakery products that you see with Tesco and Sainsbury wrappers. They operate a fleet of 30 articulated trucks from Claywheels Lane and employ about 600 local people, many from Parson Cross.

Gunstones Bakery at Dronfield and Binghams Cooked Meats at Crookes are now sister companies in the same Northern Foods group.

Yes, I remember Alfs, and Marigolds.... Living on Holgate, I was often sent on an errand, by my Mum, across the field when we heard them on Deerlands. I must say that both were easy to run after and catch up, if you just missed them, but you had to be quick to catch the Fletchers vans, they zoomed around. Can anyone remember the bread man, Horis, in the Ford Transit van, I think there were several different ones, but I seem to remember the white one most. I think he lived on Yew Lane.....

Can anyone remember going to the ' Dick Clinic ' on Broughton Road at Owlerton to have White Ointment rubbed into your hair that killed the head lice?

After catching the bus on Penistone Road, from the smell of the ointment, everyone on the 110 or 49 Bus knew where you had been. But because you knew that all the head lice had been killed, you were actually proud, because you knew that it wasn't you how carried the Dicks around school!!

Can anyone remember the bread man, Horis, in the Ford Transit van, I think there were several different ones, but I seem to remember the white one most. I think he lived on Yew Lane.....

Yes, Horrace Ratcliffe flogged Mothers Pride bread from a white Ford Transit for several years around the 1960's. Actually, he was a licenced money lender too. He later had a business at Burdall's Buildings (now Morrisons Hillsborough) that made concrete ornaments.

He moved from his bungalow on Yew Lane to a large house on The Wheel at Ecclesfield. Sadly he died several years ago.
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2361208]Yes, Horrace Ratcliffe flogged Mothers Pride bread from a white Ford Transit for several years around the 1960's. Actually, he was a licenced money lender too. He moved from his bungalow on Yew Lane to a large house on The Wheel at Ecclesfield. QUOTE]

I recall that he had four very lovely daughters. The one my age was called Sheree (apolgies if spelt wrong)
His "Bungalow" on Yew Lane was a beautiful building, quite luxurious with a small pool, and was named "Shereelee Samrina" incorporating the names of his four girls.
He was a bit of a cowboy though, in the nicest of ways

It's amazing what daft things you remember isn't it?

jinks wow! the last time i saw him was in a pub at the top of droppingwell lane

Last time I saw him Dave was on page 6 of The Star, after getting charged with a minor offence in Carlisle.
I think he lives at Greno now, somewhere near Main Rd

Him and Wriggo used to argue every Saturday night, about which restaraunt to go to, Indian or Chinese? After a heated arguement they would settle on one, go in, and then they would both order a "Mixed Grill"

Last time I saw him Dave was on page 6 of The Star, after getting charged with a minor offence in Carlisle.
I think he lives at Greno now, somewhere near Main Rd

Him and Wriggo used to argue every Saturday night, about which restaraunt to go to, Indian or Chinese? After a heated arguement they would settle on one, go in, and then they would both order a "Mixed Grill"

horrace ratcliffe can you remember the five by four carpet he had on his head THE WIG :headbang:

horrace ratcliffe can you remember the five by four carpet he had on his head THE WIG :headbang:
Yeah, it looked like Three Shredded Wheat!!

I visited 77 Holgate Crescent today to take photographs of where I spent my teen age years. I noted that my old home has been bought and space for two cars are in front garden.
My old school ' Colley Sec Mod ' is now gone. What's going to be built their now? and which school do the children now go to?

Monteney then either Chaucer or Yewlands I think.

and which school do the children now go to?

I think the sad truth is that there are now many fewer kids around, and they therfore need fewer schools, although it's always sad to see your own school gone (although with my school, I would happily have driven the big crane with a conker on it, if I'd had half a chance!!)

Growin' up in the fifities and sixties Albert, many families, as you will recall, had 7, 8 or even nine kids,(one family near us had so many kids they'd lost count, and you could never get them all to stand still long enough to count 'em) whereas today, 2 or 3 is the norm, and there are more couples staying childless

In 1964, Parson Cross had 10,000 houses and 40,000 people. I'd be interested to see what the figure is today

Monteney then either Chaucer or Yewlands I think.

Is Monteney a secondary school now?

I lived on Monteny road from 1949 till I left in 1967 went to both monteny infants and junior school till 1955 ( head Mr Lewis) then to colley (Mr Birch. Mr Shaw. Mr Gibbs, Mr Burton, Mr Holden, Miss Hudson, Mr Schofield, Mr Crow etc left in 1959 to start an apprenticeship at Firth Browns left ther in 1967 and worked at variuos companys then went into F/Education in 1973 retired and came to Spain in 2000. However I still have fond memories of childhood days.I have 3 brothers Kieth, Tony and Graham, People I remember are
John Wood, Roger Tordoff, Mick Lyons, Peter Herring, Tony Luckman, Raymond Else, Alan Chater, Graham Backhouse, Kenneth Shillitoe, Kevin Scott, Paul Goldsmith. Melvyn Morris , Pamela Spieght, Eileen Waterhouse, Gloris Fearnly, Janet Rogers, Maralyn Chaney,Susan Tordoff, plus many more. As we lived on the Ecclesfield Border lost touch with most when I left school in 1959 and then lived in East Yorkshire for 30 years. I would love to hear from any of then just to see what life gave them,

southey green schools still standing .that was the best school in sheffield and the parsons cross

I lived on Monteny road from 1949 till I left in 1967 went to both monteny infants and junior school till 1955 ( head Mr Lewis) then to colley (Mr Birch. Mr Shaw. Mr Gibbs, Mr Burton, Mr Holden, Miss Hudson, Mr Schofield, Mr Crow etc left in 1959 to start an apprenticeship at Firth Browns left ther in 1967 and worked at variuos companys then went into F/Education in 1973 retired and came to Spain in 2000. However I still have fond memories of childhood days.I have 3 brothers Kieth, Tony and Graham, People I remember are
John Wood, Roger Tordoff, Mick Lyons, Peter Herring, Tony Luckman, Raymond Else, Alan Chater, Graham Backhouse, Kenneth Shillitoe, Kevin Scott, Paul Goldsmith. Melvyn Morris , Pamela Spieght, Eileen Waterhouse, Gloris Fearnly, Janet Rogers, Maralyn Chaney,Susan Tordoff, plus many more. As we lived on the Ecclesfield Border lost touch with most when I left school in 1959 and then lived in East Yorkshire for 30 years. I would love to hear from any of then just to see what life gave them,
Hi Mick
I'm not one of the above but great to see your post. Have sent you a p.m.

Can anyone remember ' Joan Barry ' who worked at Shentalls at the Wheata Road Shops?

Hi i am looking for my long lost brother and his name is Shane Greenwood. He use to live at Gleadless Valley but last christmas he walked out on his wife and two kids for another woman called emma and her two kids who are from the parson cross area. I no that they tend to go down atterclife on a saturday night for a drink and that she kicked her husband out at the same time he left his wife and kids. I would be very greatful if anyone who nos either of them could get in touch with me as its our fathers funreal tommorow and i wanner try and catch up on a lot with my brother

What a good few hours I have spent reading the recollections of Parson Cross, from both old and new residents. It brought back many memories, some lost with the passage of time, rekindling the good times, and the sometimes bad times of my early life.
My family were allocated a house on the ‘New’ cross in the late forties, it wasn’t such a welcoming time then as some of the houses were still under construction, I think ‘Jerry’ built could be an used as an apt description, although we did have the luxury of a bath and two toilets, albeit one was outside.
Steel widow frames that conducted the cold inwards, chipping ice off the glass in the winter (inside), congregating in the only room with a fireplace, and sleeping under heaps of blankets, and coats, so as to avoid hypothermia, ah! what times.
1 was one of the kids who was daily transported across the border to Hartley Brook Junior and Infant school, although I quite enjoyed my time there, I hated the school meals, no choice and you had to eat them, the thought of Semolina still makes me shudder, I was forced to sit there until I’d eaten it all, by that time it was always stone cold. But on the whole, my early years on the Cross were quite enjoyable, we had little money in our household, but then again who did, perhaps that’s why crime in the neighbourhood was low, there wasn’t much worth stealing.
The biggest culture shock was when I moved up to secondary education at Colley School, I disliked it from day one, and as the years passed, I grew to hate it and would use any means to avoid attending. I disliked the majority of the teaching staff and likewise they disliked me, which probably accounted for the vast amount of time I spent waiting outside the offices of Harry Birch and Shaw. On reflection I suppose the major cause of the trouble I would often find myself in, was a conflict of personalities, I being a rebellious adolescent (obnoxious teenager) and on the other side, some of the teaching staff were overbearing self-indulgent bullies, with some exceptions. I suppose also, I was expected to follow in the steps of my elder sister who had started at the school around 1950-51 and had risen to head prefect. How strange then, taking into account my passionate dislike of so many of them, that I can so vividly remember the individual names and faces of the ’enemy’. Brightmore (Maths) Burgin (Maths) Holden (English) Wetherall (French) Jackson aka Fizzer (Geography) The Ollerenshaw cousins (R.K. and Science) Gibbs (Science) Scowcroft (Metalwork) Crow (Woodwork) I believe he went on to marry the RK teacher Miss Scruton.
Mason (Gardening) Copley (P.T.) Mrs. Moore (History and English) Mrs.Salvita (English) Miss Cooper (Art) Miss Bradshaw and Mrs. Coulson (Cookery/Needlework) Piper (Music)
I haven’t visited the Cross for about 30 years, it’s so sad to read of it’s demise, all the demolition that has taken place, but I wouldn’t half liked to have been the one to bulldoze the school, although I would have preferred to have done it at the time I attended.

... but I wouldn’t half liked to have been the one to bulldoze the school, although I would have preferred to have done it at the time I attended.
Hey Yorkie,
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this about my school, though in my case it would have probably been an atom bomb

Jigsaw seems to be a memory from my dim and distant past, canyou remember the other band members names?

What other name did the Tanner Hop have (if any) ?

Barry Marshall singer plus two brothers roger and pete jackson plus one other guy
mike boone

I was wondering if the john godley you have mentioned is my dad, he went to colley school and will be 70 next year. it would be nice to know if you knew my dad he married shirley kerrigan.
thanks debbie
The first pupils to go through the ’A’ Stream at Colley Sec Modern School. Parson Cross Jan 1951.
I feel sure that we had Thirty (30) in the class and the first form teacher was Ken Thompson.
Please ask around for others and/or if you know any mentioned.
Get them off their backside to write there own bit of history.
Terry Smith. (Bottom of class in English,(Classed as semi-illiterate) Top of class at Maths, Science, Tech Drawing)!!!

John Godley. David Coleman. Daddy Ashton. Jim Helliwell. Sam Bartram.
Don Moorhouse. ? Booker. Adrian White. (6 More needed)

Rita Schofield. Diana Frost . Dawn Longmore. Carol Street. Sylvia Edwards. (10 More needed)

I'm drawing up a list of fellow pupils in the first 'A' Stream that went through Colley Sec Mod 1950 - 53. Anyone who knows anyone else please post there names.
Something totally different.
I can recollect a pond in the middle of Colley School fields its stream running off under Wordsworth Ave towards Hartley Brook. Another pond was near the 110 Bus terminus on the left-hand side and at the beginning of Holgate Avenue, a third one was behind the Jewish Cemetery, along side the eight foot between Holgate Road and Deerlands Ave. Can anyone recall any others?

I'm not about the year they started, but I still have contact with someone who attended Colley around 1951. The information I have is rather sketchy, as unfortunately the lady had a brain haemorrhage a few years ago and her memory isn't too good. She was born on the 15th. of September 1939. so may have missed the 1950 intake by a few days, the names remembered from her times include Margaret Deakin, Jean Newsome and Mary Dyke.

There was a family called Shutt who lived on Buchanan Crescent. They had two boys who would now be late fifties or so. I think one of them was called John.


I knew a family called Strutt from that area but not Shutt,
The strutt family had a John in it.

Barry Marshall singer plus two brothers roger and pete jackson plus one other guy
mike boone

Thanks for that Mike ,Do you know Ray Hines - I thought he was one of the band or he once played with Roger.
Probably completely wrong as it's so long ago now.

I'm not about the year they started, but I still have contact with someone who attended Colley around 1951. The information I have is rather sketchy, as unfortunately the lady had a brain haemorrhage a few years ago and her memory isn't too good. She was born on the 15th. of September 1939. so may have missed the 1950 intake by a few days, the names remembered from her times include Margaret Deakin, Jean Newsome and Mary Dyke.

She would have been in the year after mine probably starting at Colley in September 1950 or 51. (Seven months after it opened).

The names ring a bell though they were not my form members.
Margaret Deakin. (I think that she lived on Colley Road) also had a older brother who was my age but in the ' B ' Stream. From memory I often played against him at football. He was very, very good.
If he made the grade to professional I don't know but would like to.
Can the lady who you are in contact with remember Carol or Linda Street?

I was wondering if the john godley you have mentioned is my dad, he went to colley school and will be 70 next year. it would be nice to know if you knew my dad he married shirley kerrigan.
thanks debbie

I certainly can remember 'Old John'. He was in my class. We usually called him Jack and he always said he was going to join the Navy.

Along with Jim Helliwell and myself, for tying up Dawn Longsmore by her ankles and pulling her over ten lorry loads of soil with a rope, whilst singing,' Yo Oh Eave Oh '. He along with Jim and myself, finished up with Six of the best from Harry Birch the Headmaster along with a promise, that we were scheduled for Borstal and a life of crime being in and out of prison.

Reminding Mr Birch of that many years after-wards, He said that he couldn't remember saying it. Though I can remember him having a really good laugh to himself, after I'd mentioned it to him!!!

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2430597] tying up Dawn Longsmore by her ankles and pulling her over ten lorry loads of soil with a rope, whilst singing,' Yo Oh Eave Oh '. QUOTE]

We made our own entertainment in those days..

Yes he joined the navy and served for quite a few years on the old hms sheffield and served at hms ganges. he married my mother shirley kerrigan and now live in chapeltown with five children aged between 42 and me been the youngest at 28 he has nine grand children and one great grand child.i have printed this of to show him as i am sure he would love to hear from an old school friend.

I certainly can remember 'Old John'. He was in my class. We usually called him Jack and he always said he was going to join the Navy.

Along with Jim Helliwell and myself, for tying up Dawn Longsmore by her ankles and pulling her over ten lorry loads of soil with a rope, whilst singing,' Yo Oh Eave Oh '. He along with Jim and myself, finished up with Six of the best from Harry Birch the Headmaster along with a promise, that we were scheduled for Borstal and a life of crime being in and out of prison.

Reminding Mr Birch of that many years after-wards, He said that he couldn't remember saying it. Though I can remember him having a really good laugh to himself, after I'd mentioned it to him!!!

Yes he joined the navy and served for quite a few years on the old hms sheffield and served at hms ganges. he married my mother shirley kerrigan and now live in chapeltown with five children aged between 42 and me been the youngest at 28 he has nine grand children and one great grand child.i have printed this of to show him as i am sure he would love to hear from an old school friend.

He will know me as Terry.
Ask him if he ever comes across, ' Any other class mates that attended Colley'.
to please let me know.
Thanks.

I was wondering if the john godley you have mentioned is my dad, he went to colley school and will be 70 next year. it would be nice to know if you knew my dad he married shirley kerrigan.
thanks debbie
Hello Debbie
Did your mum Shirley live on Colley Crescent?

[QUOTE=ALBERT T SMITH;2430597] tying up Dawn Longsmore by her ankles and pulling her over ten lorry loads of soil with a rope, whilst singing,' Yo Oh Eave Oh '. QUOTE]

We made our own entertainment in those days..

We did. But I can't recollect Dawn Longsmore being in my Fan Club!!
She knock about with Diane Frost who was to become my secretary when I became leader of ' The Colley Sec Mod School Conservative Group' prior to joining the Young Communist Leaque after I'd left the school. Harry Birch never got over that!!.

I hope that will bring in with comments from yester years. Can anyone remember Joe Mellor, Alf Shaw, ? Ibbotson, Ken Thompson, The young lady who took everyone hiking Miss Marsh or ??????. Better still are any of them still with us?

i have lived in parsoncross for 37 years first on remington road when there was collyschool and st peters then i moved to fulmearcresent then we moved to chaucer close oppersit st cecilias then back to holgate cresent i whent to st thomas mores then yewlands school also st peters from 1975 -1986
and at margetson shops were the chip shop is was an old sweetshop were you could get a lollypop off the old man if you fell down my mother worked in collyschool as a cleaner.
Being at st peters in the early 80s was fun we used to have fights with collyschool god we had to were green uniforms yuck can anyone apart from me remember the ram that they used to have at collyschool as me and my brother would sneak across with mums bread and feed it along with the halfpenny sweets we used to get on a sataday

....and at margetson shops where the chip shop is was an old sweetshop were you could get a lollypop off the old man if you fell down.


That was Leech's Sweetshop and before that, Bailey's. The chip shop next door was owned by Sheldons for many years.

Tens of thousands of pounds have recently (2007) been spent on car parking facilities in front of Margetson Shops.

Marvellous... Staff park their cars there all day and customers go elsewhere.
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I received a note from 'Friends reunited saying Pauline Chambers wants to contact me. She went to Colley about the same time as me it would seem
I no longer subscribe to Friend's reunited any more so I cannot contact her
If anyone knows her ,point me out please.

Originally Posted by WednesdayMad
Do you remember the Shoppers Paradise supermarket on Buchanan opposite Chaucer School?


My mother used to work at Shopper's Paradise on Buchanan in 1970 on the tills. Kathleen Haywood was her name and must have been about 37/41 years old.

I was her 2 year old baby then and that was my last ever recollection of her - she died around that time. Sad to say, I don't know my mum.

I would love it if anyone has a recollection of her and has anything they can tell me about her.

K

I received a note from 'Friends reunited saying Pauline Chambers wants to contact me. She went to Colley about the same time as me it would seem
I no longer subscribe to Friend's reunited any more so I cannot contact her
If anyone knows her ,point me out please.

Forum came through .Again!

My mother used to work at Shopper's Paradise on Buchanan in 1970 on the tills. Kathleen Haywood was her name and must have been about 37/41 years old.

I was her 2 year old baby then and that was my last ever recollection of her - she died around that time. Sad to say, I don't know my mum.

I would love it if anyone has a recollection of her and has anything they can tell me about her.

K

Did she have a brother called David?

Did she have a brother called David?

Hello,

Not a brother, but it's possible you might have linked my mum to my cousin David Haywood, who lived on Deerlands Mount. Earlier in the forum was this photo..... David is number 16 and was taken about a year after my mum died in 1972... would this be the David you was thinking of?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Bushbaby387/Wedding/photo#s5064810916428280226

Krystyna

This is a photo that I have spoke to Bushbaby about.It was his brothers wedding,and my brother is number 18.I thought David Heyward lived on Buchanan Rd next door to my brother?

Go to post 1278 of this thread to see more pics of the lads.

Don't forget, I was two at the time, :-)

The David Haywood I know had his father (my unclue bill) who lived on Deerlands Mount. We had family friend, CB Name Monte Carlo (Roy?), who lived across from the newsagent on Buchanon. The David in the photo looks very similar and he's 53/54 years old now.

On same side as newsagent was a house I visited when younger, but don't know who they were, and behind that house was where they built the old people's home in mid 70's.

We also visited another house on the street opposite to newsagent, onto Buchanon crescent where there was a family there on left hand side.

Does any of this ring a bell?

Krystyna




This is a photo that I have spoke to Bushbaby about.It was his brothers wedding,and my brother is number 18.I thought David Heyward lived on Buchanan Rd next door to my brother?

Go to post 1278 of this thread to see more pics of the lads.

Don't forget, I was two at the time, :-)

The David Haywood I know had his father (my unclue bill) who lived on Deerlands Mount. We had family friend, CB Name Monte Carlo (Roy?), who lived across from the newsagent on Buchanon. The David in the photo looks very similar and he's 53/54 years old now.

On same side as newsagent was a house I visited when younger, but don't know who they were, and behind that house was where they built the old people's home in mid 70's.

We also visited another house on the street opposite to newsagent, onto Buchanon crescent where there was a family there on left hand side.

Does any of this ring a bell?

Krystyna



We are talking about the same David Hayward I' m fairly sure.He used to play football with my younger brother,and ,yes that was the house where the old folks home was.So,DH is your cousin?

Don't forget, I was two at the time, :-)

The David Haywood I know had his father (my uncle bill) who lived on Deerlands Mount. We had family friend, CB Name Monte Carlo (Roy?), who lived across from the newsagent on Buchanon. The David in the photo looks very similar and he's 53/54 years old now so he must have been 28/29 at the time of photo.

On same side as newsagent, about five houses up was a house I visited when younger, but don't know who they were (was this David?), and behind that house was where they built the old people's home in mid 70's.

We also visited another house on the street opposite to newsagent, onto Buchanon crescent where there was a family there on left hand side.

Does any of this ring a bell?

Krystyna




This is a photo that I have spoke to Bushbaby about.It was his brothers wedding,and my brother is number 18.I thought David Heyward lived on Buchanan Rd next door to my brother?

Go to post 1278 of this thread to see more pics of the lads.

We are talking about the same David Hayward I' m fairly sure.He used to play football with my younger brother,and ,yes that was the house where the old folks home was.So,DH is your cousin?


Yes, my dad is Roy Haywood, brother of Bill Haywood, who's son is David and as you said lived at that house on Buchanon (now it all starts to make sense!!). My dad was married to Kathleen who worked on the tills (my mum). She died in 1971. My parents had two sons and two daughters. Did you remember my mum, what was she like...?

It was the middle 1950s when I left Buchanan.I do remember seeing a young woman who was a few years older than me at the house.I'm sure it must have been your Mum.I hardly knew her though.I think my older brother may remember her.I 'll ask him for you if you like.
I also have some photos taken in our back garden and the Heywards house is on it.When we went passed there last year I noticed their house is gone,but our old house next door is still there.

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It was the middle 1950s when I left Buchanan.I do remember seeing a young woman who was a few years older than me at the house.I'm sure it must have been your Mum.I hardly knew her though.I think my older brother may remember her.I 'll ask him for you if you like.
I also have some photos taken in our back garden and the Heywards house is on it.When we went passed there last year I noticed their house is gone,but our old house next door is still there.

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Wow... so interesting to see... My life on the cross was in the 70's and always recall it being a wonderful and happy place to be brought up on. I'd love to move back, but in saying that, I'd love to move back to how it was, and the cross now is not as it used to be.

Fascinating to see the photograph, taken 52 years ago, and yet I bet you remember that day and circumstances surrounding it as clear as day. I'm sure my mum would have been older, and wonder if you remember my dad, Roy. He had three brothers, William (Bill) on Mount, Alf and his wife May, who is 83 this year and still lives on Buchanan Crescent close to the pub, and my Uncle Ray and his wife, Elizabeth who lives round on

Interestingly, on Murdoch Road when you look to the field where the houses were, I am, pretty sure that was the tree that my uncle Ray planted in early 80's.

I think I had grandparents (Haywoods) that lived on Falstaff Road as I remember visiting the house when I was that young age.

Another interesting story.... the Haywoods moved into the Cross as before that they used to own and live in the white farmhouse that is situated right in the middle of Fox House estate (it's still there now), as the whole of that was apparently an orchard for the Haywood farm or whatever it was called, from what I understand anyway.

I think it's two different David's
David Heyward, from the picture, who was at my brother's wedding, is probably about 60 now.
Vibes' uncle, David Haywood, who is 53/54 and lived on the Mount, was a drummer with Pete Howe for a while. He was an electrician. The last I knew of him (probably 1974 ish) he had a girlfriend called Jackie Hastings. Lovely girl, lived on Wordsworth near The Ritz - had a brother called John.

I knew Dave off The Mount quite well. so if you have any questions about him Vibes, I'll try and answer them

Photo of Colley School, later Parson Cross College, taken in March 2006 after the fire and before the site was demolished and cleared.

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My mother used to work at Shopper's Paradise on Buchanan in 1970.

That store has closed down - yet again - it was a frozen food place.
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Photo of Colley School, later Parson Cross College, taken in March 2006 after the fire and before the site was demolished and cleared.

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Looking at the photograph of my old burnt out School which I attended when it was first opened in Jan 1950 or 51 brought back a lot of happy memory's. But was the School schedule for demolition or was it demolished because of the fire?

Originally Posted by ALBERT T SMITH:
Looking at the photograph of my old burnt out School which I attended when it was first opened in Jan 1950 or 51 brought back a lot of happy memory's. But was the School scheduled for demolition or was it demolished because of the fire?
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I believe that it was earmarked for housing long before the fire but there has been no building work started so far.
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Originally Posted by ALBERT T SMITH:
Looking at the photograph of my old burnt out School which I attended when it was first opened in Jan 1950 or 51 brought back a lot of happy memory's. But was the School scheduled for demolition or was it demolished because of the fire?
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I believe that it was earmarked for housing long before the fire but there has been no building work started so far.
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So the School which was only Fifty years old was schedule for demolishing.
Why haven't other schools built many years before Colley was, not been pulled down and are still open and in use today?

I often wonder if it is because of the 'Asbestos sheeting and fibre wool Insulation material' used whilst creating the classroom's and stores.

When a hole appeared in the classroom wall, as children, we would often pull out the wire wool, that years later, I now realise was covered in asbestos dust.

So the School which was only Fifty years old was schedule for demolishing.
Why haven't other schools built many years before Colley was, not been pulled down and are still open and in use today?

I often wonder if it is because of the 'Asbestos sheeting and fibre wool Insulation material' used whilst creating the classroom's and stores.

When a hole appeared in the classroom wall, as children, we would often pull out the wire wool, that years later, I now realise was covered in asbestos dust.

Debbie123456 - Ask your Dad? Jack Godley, If he can remember his chair getting stuck in one of the holes that David Coleman had made in the patition wall.
We were in Miss Vaugners class at the time. - He had a real crush on her by the way!!. But that didn't stop him getting four strokes from Harry Birch for larking about!

Yes, I did. We moved to Adlington Crescent in 1967. We lived across from the island in the middle which had lovely Laburnum trees in it. Us kids weren't allowed in there.

I used to go to Southey Green Junior School and then I went to Chaucer.

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My abode in Parsons Cross from 1947 to 52 and very nice it was too.




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My abode in Parson Cross and very nice it was too.I lived there from 1947 to 52, this photo is only a couple of years old, taken on one of my trips to Sheffield.



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sadly john mellor died a few years ago

Wasnt aware of that so in memory of the minto man a little known heroic tale.

John (Mellor) and the english teacher (Mrs Birkby) were somehow instrumental in the rescue of an African Teacher from the apartheid regime and getting him a job at Colley School, (around 1970)

His name was George MBele,

His story is one of hero status having survived the persecution meted out to him for his refusal to teach whites only classes or sometrhing of that ilk and he purportedly served time with Nelson Mandela .... Not sure how much of this is fact as i was under alcoholic influence when given the accurate version..... by John Mellor who had sat on this for the best part of 30 years

George MBele was shot dead in a school yard having returned to Africa after the troubles had ceased.

Heroes all .....Privileged to have known them

Wasnt aware of that so in memory of the minto man a little known heroic tale.

John (Mellor) and the english teacher (Mrs Birkby) were somehow instrumental in the rescue of an African Teacher from the apartheid regime and getting him a job at Colley School, (around 1970)

His name was George MBele,

His story is one of hero status having survived the persecution meted out to him for his refusal to teach whites only classes or sometrhing of that ilk and he purportedly served time with Nelson Mandela .... Not sure how much of this is fact as i was under alcoholic influence when given the accurate version..... by John Mellor who had sat on this for the best part of 30 years

George MBele was shot dead in a school yard having returned to Africa after the troubles had ceased.

Heroes all .....Privileged to have known them

Should the ' John Mellor Be Joe Mellor ?'.
He came from Oldham and whilst he was my maths teacher he lived on Colley Road just before the Colley Crescent junction.

My abode in Parson Cross and very nice it was too.I lived there from 1947 to 52, this photo is only a couple of years old, taken on one of my trips to Sheffield.



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P.X. is a large estate. What road was it where you could be found living a life of luxury!!!

Should the ' John Mellor Be Joe Mellor ?'.
He came from Oldham and whilst he was my maths teacher he lived on Colley Road just before the Colley Crescent junction.

No - 2 seperate era,s presumably although probably overlapping or concurrent.

Only one Mellor (John) when i started ther in 1970 and i wasnt aware of the story until 30 or so years later - i got all the facts from the horses mouth but was too drunk to memorise most of the detail.

If there are descendants of John Mellor (Chapeltown /Ecclesfield) or E Birkby (Mrs) Grenoside i would love to hear the story again as to how the events unfolded to re deploy Mr MBele.

P.X. is a large estate. What road was it where you could be found living a life of luxury!!!

Albert, it was Masters Rd. the circle at the top end was our playground, everybody knew each other. I may be looking at the past through rose tinted specs.

We didn't have much but we enjoyed what we had and our families and neighbours helped each other.We WERE happy despite hard times.

We didn't have much but we enjoyed what we had and our families and neighbours helped each other.We WERE happy despite hard times.

The above puts everything in a nut shell.
Along with that we lived in a non violent way and street robbery was never thought of.

I was brought up on the cross in the 50's and sixties, my dad passed a short while ago and mom now lives alone. She recently had new neighbours who only moved from a few doors away, buying the house next door to mom. Since being next door they have kept an eye on her and have also took her sunday lunch round. Lifts your heart doesn't it? Salt of the earth.

I was brought up on the cross in the 50's and sixties, my dad passed a short while ago and mom now lives alone. She recently had new neighbours who only moved from a few doors away, buying the house next door to mom. Since being next door they have kept an eye on her and have also took her sunday lunch round. Lifts your heart doesn't it? Salt of the earth.

I've always found that 'Most people are good' where ever you are.
The trouble is that it is only the rotten ones who invariably make the news.