its where my grandparents lived it was situated where the woodburn road atheltics stadium now stands....my grandma told me it was that narrow she could open her front door and knock on the door of the house across the road without moving off her front step,can anyone confirm this or better still show me a photo of it.

thanks

Hi Kirky
I remember Dolphin St when I worked at the YEB in 60's It was known as the Indian village then and was near to Darnall.It was a hard to find place. All I can remember is a street of terraced houses and very friendly people.
Regards
Fred

Originally posted by f.everill
Hi Kirky
I remember Dolphin St when I worked at the YEB in 60's It was known as the Indian village then and was near to Darnall.It was a hard to find place. All I can remember is a street of terraced houses and very friendly people.
Regards
Fred

cheers fred someone else told me it was called the indian village....was it near to where makro is now.

yes it was coz someone told me yesterday:D

Hello Kirky,
I'm a newcomer to the site and had grandparents who lived in Dolphin Street Grandad John Henry (Champy) Smith and Grandma Polly lived at No 1. I heard My Uncle Vin Hutchinson who married Aunty LIzzie call it the Indian Village. Lizzie said he married one of the squaws. My Dad's Parents John Henry Turner and Rose lived in the same yard at the bottom of the street. There was a WW1 war memorial in a large picture frame hung on the wall at the bottom of the street. I have a photo of it. Many of my relatives names were on it. I went to visit the street with my Mum, I think in the early eighties, but they had just about finished demolishing the street. I wonder what happened to the war memorial. I would like to see it again if it is still kept somewhere. Eight of the lads from that street gave their lives in that war. It should have been preserved for posterity in the City and should also be on view to the public like any other Memorial.

Here is a list of names on the Dolphin Street ww1 memorial does anyone out there relate to them? I hope I got them right, can't guarantee it since the photo was a little out of focus and was of hand painted scroll writing. I apologise if they aren't correct.
The framed memorial was headed "For King and Country"
It had a a two line heading which is unclear but I think it says
"for the people killed and who answered the call of duty
from Dolphin Street and Broad Oaks Lane to the Great World War of 1914:

Killed and died of wounds
Pte A. Johnson RSF July1916 ( I think he was my grandad Turner's sister's relative)
Pte J Leary RSF March 1916 (we knew her as aunt Lizzie Johnson)
Pte J Elkington 1st july 1916 (He was my Aunt Annie's Dad she was one at the time)
Corporal N. Jaques W.Y. Oct 6th 1916
Gunner J. Jaques W.Y. 21st July 1917
Pte J. Wooley Jan 16th 1917
Pt J Waller Oct 2nd 1917
Pt K. Norton (or Martin not clear) Oct 5th 1917

Wounded
Pte J Smith Y & L
Pte J. Leary WY
Driver J. Drake RFA M.M.
L. Corporal H Drake S.W.W.R.
Rifleman J.H. Smith R.A. This was my grandad known as Champy.
Pt A.K. Jarvis 3rd W.Y.
Corporal V. Hutchinson W.Y. (My uncle married champy's Eldest daughter)
Pt K Bradbury D.L. I.
Corporal Halley R.S.F.
Pte Halley
Corporal J. W. Bellamy Y.I.
Corporal J. Bellamy RFA
Corporal J. Pegg R.E.
Pt J.Halgate? M.G.C.
Gunner J.H. Turner R.F.A. (my Uncle, he married Laura Bellamy Sister of above and Billy.
Pte F. Capel Y.I.
L. Corporal Latrant K.O.S.B.
Pte J. Thompson W.Y.
Pte A. Shepherd Y.I.
Pte J. Bagnall KOYLI
L Corporal P. Turner R.M.L.I. (my Dad)
Pte W. Newton Y.I.
Pte C.A. Capel 2nd R.M.F.

Not Wounded
Pte A.H. Burton 14th Glos
Sapper J Kirkham R.E.
Rifleman H. Emmingham K.R.R.
Pte W. Halley York R.
Pte W. Halley 14th Glos
Pte H. Hawley W.Y.
Pte A Birchwood A.S.C.
Gunner J. Lambert R.F.A.
JCES H. Hector R.F.A.
Pte A. Turner M.G.C. (my uncle Arthur)
Pte J. Harthill W.Y.
Pte F. Leary D.L.I.
Pte Bishop 2nd Res CAV
Pte E Smedley KOYLI
Pte G.A. Peach KOYLI
Sgt J.W. Leary D.L.I.
Pte A Inckley? KOYLI
Pte E. Jenkin R.M.L.I.
Pte W. Irveman C & G
Pte A. Nuttall W.Y.
Cpl D. May N.D.
Pte E. Johnson C & G
they all received good report and gloriously triumphed in victory
The path of duty was the way to victory
Suscribed by all the neighbours
Does anyone Know where the memorial went when the street was demolished?

Dear Ronty

Have you tried the Sheff memorial depositary on Carver Street it is a small church next to the new fire station. The person I spoke to was Mrs Robinson about the memorial from Holy Trinity Darnall it was a while ago and I dont know if she is still there. If she doesnt know she may point you in the right direction.

There is also the National Inventry of War memorials on www.ukniwm.org.uk they might be able to tell you. If you know of a list for Holy Trinity Darnall can you let me know.

Good hunting,
Sue

Dear Ronty

Mrs Robinson is no longer at Carver st but the building is still there a small church. I have also spoken to someone at Church House Effingham St Rotherham they might be able to help you as to where the memorial has gone to, but it was on a wall and not a church. Have you tried local studies/archives or Sheffield family history society forum is good. sheffieldfhs.org.uk and click on forum

Hope you find it
Sue
I might have found the Holy Trinity memorial keep your fingers crossed

Dear Ronty

Mrs Robinson is no longer at Carver st but the building is still there a small church. I have also spoken to someone at Church House Effingham St Rotherham they might be able to help you as to where the memorial has gone to, but it was on a wall and not a church. Have you tried local studies/archives or Sheffield family history society forum is good. sheffieldfhs.org.uk and click on forum

Hope you find it
Sue
I might have found the Holy Trinity memorial keep your fingers crossed

Also keeping my fingers crossed. Please keep us informed re Holy Trinity Memorial

Could you scan the photo to PM me a copy we could print it with the list and put it in the local studies library, they have started a folder containing pictures and lists of war memorials in the Sheffield area that is what I have done with the one I found for The Green Darnall.

It is a permanent reminder for something that has gone missing, is not available to view/damaged or in a private place.

Sue

Dolphin street was over the iron bridge opposite where woodbourne road athletic stadium is now. I actually lived on the corner facing the bridge. I remember my mum telling me about Dolphin St. but it had already gone by the time I was a kid in the 70's. I can remember going for long walks 'over the bridge' and by that time it was all green fields with some 'works' at the side where Dolphin st. would have started. Happy memories!

Dear Ronti,

I was born on Dolphin Street in 1961, the last of four generations to be born in the Indian Village. My great-grandfather moved to Dolphin Street in 1897 from Barsley, to work at Nunnery pit. I was very interested in the names on the Memorial, "H. Drake" should be W(illiam) Drake and J. Drake were my grandfathers brothers. "W. Irveman", should be W. Trueman. Bill and Joe Drake lived at No 16, Bill Trueman lived at No 18, Bishop lived at No 12, John Harthill lived at No 20 John Kirkham lived at No 22 and "Champy" Smith lived in one of the four houses that made up Broad Oaks lane, at the end of Dolphin Street. All of these men were brought up as kids on the street and went to war together - I suppose you could call them the "Dolphin Street Pals".

I understand that the memorial was torn down in about 1945 and was last seen being used as part of a cucumber cold frame... Your photo is probably the only memory of that memorial and, like SueSmith, I'd love a scanned copy if that's at all possible.

Hello Bobbers,
Thanks for the info on the Dolphin street memorial. I have moved house recently and the original photo of the memorial is somewhere packed in a box in my loft, but as soon as it come to light I will send you and sue a copy of it. It is a bit out of focus and not easily readable, as you will have gathered from my mis-reading of the names. It's great to hear from you. I saw my uncle Frank recently, he's the youngest son of Champy and is celebrating his 91st this week, his wife Annie was brought up by her granny Mrs Bishop.
I went to see them a few weeks ago and showed them some of the photos from the Sheffield web site of Dolphin street. Frank was thrilled to see them and his reaction was interesting. I felt for him, as he wanted to share it with other contemporary's but, as he said, there's no one left to share it with.
I'll have a look to see if I can find the photo and do my best to get it scanned and sent to you.

Hi Ronty,

That's great! I printed off the two photo's of Dolphin Street and showed them to my folks yesterday - they recognised them immediately and were able to point out who's house was who's and who's garden was who's etc.

Hello - this is the first time I've used this site. My father James Molloy and his family lived at 42 Dolphin Street. My Dad was born in 1896 and fought in WW1. I was told by elderly relatives that they had seen his name and his brother's name on the memorial at Dolphin Street. Unfortunately their names do not appear on the list provided by Ronty in 2006, although could be mis-spelled. James was in Royal Scots Fusiliers and John in Durham Light Infantry. Both were wounded. They were pals with the Drakes and Learys I believe. My Dad was the 3rd of 6 children, John eldest, Nora 2nd, followed by Thomas, Joseph and Francis. Most of them worked at Nunnery Colliery. Anyone know how I can see a copy of memorial photo please?

Hello - this is the first time I've used this site. My father James Molloy and his family lived at 42 Dolphin Street. My Dad was born in 1896 and fought in WW1. I was told by elderly relatives that they had seen his name and his brother's name on the memorial at Dolphin Street. Unfortunately their names do not appear on the list provided by Ronty in 2006, although could be mis-spelled. James was in Royal Scots Fusiliers and John in Durham Light Infantry. Both were wounded. They were pals with the Drakes and Learys I believe. My Dad was the 3rd of 6 children, John eldest, Nora 2nd, followed by Thomas, Joseph and Francis. Most of them worked at Nunnery Colliery. Anyone know how I can see a copy of memorial photo please?
hi missis,some pictures of dolphin street on picture sheffield . com

missis. PM me your e-mail address and i'll send you a photo of the war memorial.
Dean.

Hi missis, if you PM me your e-mail address i'll send you a photo of said war memorial.
The photo is rather blurred, but i can definately see the two names you mentioned under wounded.
Dean.

Hi missis, i can let you have a photo of the war memorial. i can also see the two names that you mention.PM me your e-mail.
Dean.
hope this post works, tried 3 times already!!

Interesting thread. I didn't know Dolphin Street but here is a scan taken from an 1890s map showing its location:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/DolphinSt.jpg There were evidently no other houses nearby; as it was so close to the Nunnery pit, maybe the street had been built for the miners. I wonder how the street got its name. It's a shame if the war memorial has been lost; naturally it makes the photo all the more valuable.

Here's a list of surnames of Dolphin Street residents from the 1901 census; the occupation most of the householders is given as "coal miner":

Odd numbers
Shepherd, Preskey, Swallow, Smith, Heenan, North, Bradley, Archer, Archer, Hill, Whitworth, Hibbert, Tankard, Jacques, Jeffcock, Vardy, Platts, Cupit, Shepherd, Day, Tankard

Even numbers
Jacques, Kelk, Otter, Gibson, Bishop, Monaghan, Drake, Trueman, Hartill, Kirkham, Methley, Scott, Swallow, Poole, Burrows, Smith, Hazard, Johnson, Cann, Bellamy, Fullwood, Jackson, Winterbottom

They hadn't all been born locally – for example the Hazards were from Lincoln, John & Thomas Hartill from Staffordshire and the Hills from Derby; also William Swallow’s wife Mary was from Ireland and William Bishop’s wife Isabella was German-born.

Hi hillsbro, excellent addition to the thread.
if you can get hold of a 1903 old ordnance survey map of Darnall, you'll see exactly how adrift the street was from the neighbouring estates. But as you say slap bang next door to the pit. i was wondering about their daily lives, Pit, allotment, chapel, pit, allotment, chapel, pit ----. Then the first world war!
as steve1953 stated earlier there are two photo's on Picture Sheffield showing the allotments next to the houses. There were also more allotments further up Broad Oaks Lane, thats the dirt track in front of the house on the photos at Picture Sheffield.
The casualty list posted by Ronty is not quite correct, but if you saw the photo of the memorial you'll understand how the mistakes were made. The 8 deaths should read -

Elkington, Thomas Mellor.
Jacques. J.
Jacques. William.
Johnson. James.
Leary. Robert.
Methley. Ernest.
Martin. A.
Waller. J.


Had quite a bit of fun on the Great War Forum sorting that out!
Dean.

Indeed, Dean, life was a lot simpler then - you did your shift at the pit, worked on your allotment, went to chapel etc. ... and then the war! I just looked up one of the casualties - Ernest Methley from No 21. He was killed in 1917, aged just 20. Unlike my great-uncle he doesn't have his own grave; his name is on the memorial at Thiepval. Just one casualty out of millions - such a waste.
I don't have a 1903 Ordnance Survey map but I just remembered that I have a 1912 edition, and so I looked it out. Here's a scan in case it's of interest:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/DolphinSt2.jpg
Looking at the aerial photo on "Live Search" the area has, not surprisingly, changed beyond recognition, but Broad Oaks Lane can still be seen.

I think it got worse in the early 20's, there was an accident on the 3rd Dec 1923 when 7 men were killed at the Pit.
I cant find a casualty list of the men, but was wondering if some of them were on the War memorial that survived the war only to be killed at work?
Simpler life hillsbro, but i think a lot harder than today.

I know some of you have put links to old maps on here showing Dolphin Street, but I have been sent a map of the Attercliffe area, which I think is from around the 1950's. It shows Dolphin Street and Broad Oaks Lane opposite the Nunnery colliery. If anyone would like to see it I can send it via email to you, just PM me.

Chris.

Detail from the 1903 OS map here...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Taidi/Dolphin.jpg

Dolphin is an odd name for a street of little terraced houses - does anyone know who built them ?

Possibly the owner of Nunnery Colliery ?

Many thanks to Steve1953, dean1 and hillsbro for responding! Steve1953 - have looked at photos on Picture Sheffield and will go into Sheffield Library as soon as able, to have a better look. Dean1, I would be delighted to receive photo of memorial - hope you got my e-mail address ok. Hillsbro, thanks for map reference. I think the street was probably built for the miners. Apparently the Molloys weren't in Dolphin Street in 1901 (as your research shows) - they were in Thomson's Square, Portobello Street, which I believe is (or was) up near St. George's Church. I'll have to wait for the 1911 Census to find out if they'd moved to Dolphin St by then. I am told that no. 42 was at the railway end of the road. If I find out why Dolphin Street was so called, I'll let you know.

Many thanks to Steve1953, dean1 and hillsbro for responding! Steve1953 - have looked at photos on Picture Sheffield and will go into Sheffield Library as soon as able, to have a better look. Dean1, I would be delighted to receive photo of memorial - hope you got my e-mail address ok. Hillsbro, thanks for map reference. I think the street was probably built for the miners. Apparently the Molloys weren't in Dolphin Street in 1901 (as your research shows) - they were in Thomson's Square, Portobello Street, which I believe is (or was) up near St. George's Church. I'll have to wait for the 1911 Census to find out if they'd moved to Dolphin St by then. I am told that no. 42 was at the railway end of the road. If I find out why Dolphin Street was so called, I'll let you know.

hi missis, glad the photo was some help, i was born on harrogate road just off kettlebridge and dolphin streetwas no longer a bustling street me and my friends spent many a happy time tadpoling in cowlishaws pond which was part of the old nunnery pit remember the slag heaps well happy times.

thanks for the 1903 map greybeard, my scanner is Kaput so i coudn't post it.
Dean.
Just been on google earth, and Dolphin St is still there ish! The plot of land where it once stood still survives exactly as it was, but covered in greenery now. The allotments to the south east also remain.
Is there any one able to overlay greybeards map onto google earth opaquely and post it? I've tried and failed!!

I was curious to know when Dolphin Street was built. Using data from the 1891 census, I looked in the 1881 census return for a dozen or so of the residents. I found eight of them, but none of them lived in Dolphin Street. Most of the ones I looked up came originally from outside the area. Two, for example, were from Staffordshire, and in 1881 they lived at Wales and Kiveton. Others were from Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire, all coal mining areas. So I am wondering if the houses were built in the 1880s, and people moved into them as they transferred to Nunnery from other pits.

Hello Kirky,
I'm a newcomer to the site and had grandparents who lived in Dolphin Street Grandad John Henry (Champy) Smith and Grandma Polly lived at No 1. I heard My Uncle Vin Hutchinson who married Aunty LIzzie call it the Indian Village. Lizzie said he married one of the squaws. My Dad's Parents John Henry Turner and Rose lived in the same yard at the bottom of the street. There was a WW1 war memorial in a large picture frame hung on the wall at the bottom of the street. I have a photo of it. Many of my relatives names were on it. I went to visit the street with my Mum, I think in the early eighties, but they had just about finished demolishing the street. I wonder what happened to the war memorial. I would like to see it again if it is still kept somewhere. Eight of the lads from that street gave their lives in that war. It should have been preserved for posterity in the City and should also be on view to the public like any other Memorial.


Hi whoever is still on this thread ..

We lived in Dolphin Street from 1951 to when it blew down in the gales of 1962, I was born in 1953 so had my first 9 years there. My dad still remembers a lot from those days and we are digging out some of the photos taken on my mothers box brownie. My dad was in lodgings at Mrs Taylors (no 2) before we were allocated a house (22)
and while there (approx 1948/1949 as far as I can work it out)distinctly remembers a somewhat unstable neighbour having a go at the memorial with an axe, presumably to destruction. Which will explain why no-one has managed to find it. I have a photo of the flattened street with Mariott's farm (between the street and the railway) still going strong, with new factories emerging over on
the pit site. When I think how much freedom we had to roam the pit stacks, build dams in the streams, scrumping apples from Mariots farm etc etc I realise how overprotected and underpriviledged kids of today actually are......

It's very interesting to know that the street blew down in the 1962 gale. I remember at the time that The Star published a "Hurricane Edition" with lots of photos - maybe there are some of Dolphin Street. It would be interesting to see any photos that you have (they could be scanned and uploaded to photobucket.com). What a shame about the memorial.

I'll try to dig into the Stars archives but we were not on many peoples radar at the time.
Prefabs were being blown away on Arburthorn at the time. We had fallen chimney stacks
and slates wizzing around and what I remember most is waking up in the morning to see
loads of sash windows lying in the street. We were ok though and the council decided to re-house the lot of us rather than do repairs on 80+ year old houses. We flitted at witsun so it took a little time to get us all away although some had to go immediately.

The street was built originally for the pit but by the time we went in some had been taken over by the railway (my Dad was a railwayman at the Darnall depo).

I never imagined the street would end up as a helicopter pad ! (see Google images)

I'll post some more pickies when I get hold of them from my dads loft.

My own (2) are now on photobucket (under Speleojazzer) but the forum requires me to have 4 posts before I can provide a link here.

I know some of you have put links to old maps on here showing Dolphin Street, but I have been sent a map of the Attercliffe area, which I think is from around the 1950's. It shows Dolphin Street and Broad Oaks Lane opposite the Nunnery colliery. If anyone would like to see it I can send it via email to you, just PM me.

Chris.

Not sure how to 'PM' but wouldn't mind an email of the 1950s map
cos I'm trying to locate the allotments my dad used to take me to (somewhere over towards the Kettlebridge) and the current layout is somewhat obscured by factories, so if you are still active on this thread, I'd be very grateful, thanks.

I never imagined the street would end up as a helicopter pad ! (see Google images).

I also was surprised to see the helicopter pad on Google and LiveSearch (by the way, Livesearch is excellent with its 3-D images). How time change!


My own (2) are now on photobucket (under Speleojazzer) but the forum requires me to have 4 posts before I can provide a link here.

I had a look on photobucket but couldn't work out how to see photos from a particular person's album. Anyway you'll soon be able to post links.

I have a 1950s map at "home" in Sheffield and will post a scan from this on photobucket if I remember when I'm there on Thursday/Friday. To PM an email address to carsupplier, click on "Private Messages" at the left side, then on "Send New Message").

Thanks hillsbro for the info. I'll try to PM carsupplier, he / she might be interested in picking up this thread again.

I've got my Dad to list out all the families he knew when we were there, as well as dig out
all the old photos. It will be a little while before I can collect them from him. I am pretty sure though that I've never seen a photo of the complete street - any parents with browny box cameras at the time would probably not understand why anyone would want to.

Which is a pity - I have vivid memories myself of the whole street engaged in street cricket (the aim being to ricochet the ball off the house walls / windows / doors down the street for maximum runs) and the Nov 5th bonfire always held at the top end yard was absolutely enormous (10-20 feet high although I was only a squirt myself in those days so everything seemed enormous)

The helipad on Google disappears on the 3D version which seems to have a mountain of shingle and a new building over it, so might be a later version. I'm pretty sure the street went at an angle to the greenery that is visible in all the arial photos- the greenery will be where the pig styes were.

Thanks hillsbro for the info. I'll try to PM carsupplier, he / she might be interested in picking up this thread again.

I've got my Dad to list out all the families he knew when we were there, as well as dig out
all the old photos. It will be a little while before I can collect them from him. I am pretty sure though that I've never seen a photo of the complete street - any parents with browny box cameras at the time would probably not understand why anyone would want to.

Which is a pity - I have vivid memories myself of the whole street engaged in street cricket (the aim being to ricochet the ball off the house walls / windows / doors down the street for maximum runs) and the Nov 5th bonfire always held at the top end yard was absolutely enormous (10-20 feet high although I was only a squirt myself in those days so everything seemed enormous)

The helipad on Google disappears on the 3D version which seems to have a mountain of shingle and a new building over it, so might be a later version. I'm pretty sure the street went at an angle to the greenery that is visible in all the arial photos- the greenery will be where the pig styes were.

hi this is the first time i have used the forum i useto live at number
16 dolphin st in the 40s to the late 50s next door to lillian hawley we use to call her auntey and next to her was old mrs bishop i rember the war memorial the women of the street useto put flowers on it every sunday

Not sure how to 'PM' but wouldn't mind an email of the 1950s map
cos I'm trying to locate the allotments my dad used to take me to (somewhere over towards the Kettlebridge) and the current layout is somewhat obscured by factories, so if you are still active on this thread, I'd be very grateful, thanks.

I have sent you an email with the map attached Jazzer. If anyone else would like it sending, please PM me.

Thanks,
Chris.

I never knew Dolphin Street, but from what I've learned from this thread it must have been a fairly unique community. Its inhabitants would have had all the common sense and down-to-earth approach of Sheffield folk, while the street was unusual as there were no other streets nearby. At one time the people would clearly all have derived their income from the Nunnery pit, and the allotments/pigsties typified the self-sufficiency and simple life of people half a century or so ago. It would certainly be interesting to see any photos of the street, and I'll add it to the long list of things I want to research when I am next in the Local Studies library!

Thanks Chris (carsupplier)

- map is pretty well how I remember it was laid out until all the land to the east was flattened ready for the new factories. I think my universe as a 0-9 year old kid didn't go beyond the kettlebridge road
so the allotments must have been to the west (ie street side) of that, with the track (dotted line) down the center of the plots.

I think I can post a link to the two photobucket photos on the next message - its still throwing me out.

hi this is the first time i have used the forum i useto live at number
16 dolphin st in the 40s to the late 50s next door to lillian hawley we use to call her auntey and next to her was old mrs bishop i rember the war memorial the women of the street useto put flowers on it every sunday

Hi jackygells - we were at no 22 from 1951 to 62 - the Guys - Alf, Renee, Jonathan and me (Derrick)

Thanks Chris (carsupplier)

- map is pretty well how I remember it was laid out until all the land to the east was flattened ready for the new factories. I think my universe as a 0-9 year old kid didn't go beyond the kettlebridge road
so the allotments must have been to the west (ie street side) of that, with the track (dotted line) down the center of the plots.

I think I can post a link to the two photobucket photos on the next message - its still throwing me out.

Pleased you got the map ok Jazzer, sorry if it isn't very clear!
Now that you have five postings I think you should be able to post a link to your photobucket photos.

The two photos on my photobucket account are on

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk140/SpeleoJazzer/dolphin%20street/001dolphinst003.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk140/SpeleoJazzer/dolphin%20street/001dolphinst002.jpg

with some description added (not sure if thats visible).

Hopefully I'll get hold of some earlier ones, may take a couple of weeks or so -

On the 002.jpg can be seen the slag heaps at the bottom of the road - in the winter snow we had a slalom course (on home made sledges) from the top to the bottom that used to get us
enough speed up to see how far up the street we could go.

Me and my best mate (Raymond Lavender) once tried it in the summer on our home made wheeled trolleys and nearly ended up in hospital.

If someone could let me know if these photos don't link, I'd be grateful - I'm new to these messageboard thingies..

Your photo links are working Jazzer:thumbsup:

Hi Carsupllier,

Presumably I could crop the map, save it as a smaller file and make it available on my photobucket account ?

or do these message boards expect it to be done some other way ?

Hi Carsupllier,

Presumably I could crop the map, save it as a smaller file and make it available on my photobucket account ?

or do these message boards expect it to be done some other way ?

Now your testing me Jazzer!
I know that you can crop images on photobucket, but as for saving it as a smaller file I really do not know.
If you go to the computer section on thre forum, I'm sure someone will give you advice.

Hi carsupplier,

I was really asking for permission, as politely as I could get away with ! Assuming permission is given :

648 kb version centered on 'rhubarb island' (the bit in between
the triangle of railway lines) is now available at :

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk140/SpeleoJazzer/dolphin%20street/Dolphin.jpg

(MS Office Picture Manager did the trick, although Photobucket
has just added a load of editing functions)

thanks.

:thumbsup: hi jazzer
i cant rember u but in 51 i was still at wooburn rd school i had two brothers TED &HAROLD and a sister MINIE GELSTHORPE
had some mates barry plant he went in the army same time as our ted and tommy gouge i rememer the johnsons the mays the hectors
drakes old MRS BISHOP at the corner shop and ANNIE NIXON had the fruit and veg shop on the other corner
IF U WANT ANY MORE INFO PLEASE LET ME KNO

Hi jackygells,

I was born in 1953 and actually went to Hammerton Road juniors
and infants (me and my brother the only kids in the street to go there I think) rather than to woodburn road for some reason I never
really worked out. I've got my dad compiling a list of who was where so I'll ask if there are any gaps. The name Gelsthorpe certainly rings a bell.

I remember the corner shop (the beer-off) on our side of the street.
(presumably the Bishops) My dad has this strange tale about the other shop - he says he used to send me to get stuff but says you could never get in through the front - we'd always go in via the yard, and have to go through their living room first, and it was always open, day or night....

hi jazzer
i do remember the name guy did your dad work on the railway
in the 40s we went to hammerton rd school then went to woodburn rd school left in 53
how did u get on e mail

Hi jackygells,

I was born in 1953 and actually went to Hammerton Road juniors
and infants (me and my brother the only kids in the street to go there I think) rather than to woodburn road for some reason I never
really worked out. I've got my dad compiling a list of who was where so I'll ask if there are any gaps. The name Gelsthorpe certainly rings a bell.

I remember the corner shop (the beer-off) on our side of the street.
(presumably the Bishops) My dad has this strange tale about the other shop - he says he used to send me to get stuff but says you could never get in through the front - we'd always go in via the yard, and have to go through their living room first, and it was always open, day or night....
hi jazzar,good posts about dolphin street spent many a happy hour tadpoling in cowlishaws pond,i also went to hammerton school used to live on harrogate road.

Hi jackygells

Yes, my dad worked at the Darnall loco, retired about 20 years ago.
Spent most of my early years sitting on the wall beyond the
'bombed buildings' train spotting, waiting for my Dad to ride past.

The railway owned several of the houses in the street so there were
probably more railwaymen around.

Hi Steve1953,

Cowlishaws ponds doesn't ring a bell by that name - but we used to make rafts in the
big lakes that used to form on the flat bit between the street and the allotments - is that where they were, or somewhere else ?

hi jazzer
cowlishaws pond was behind the big tip at the bottom of manorlane the lakes u on about was in the quarry witch suppleid the brick yard at the pit is tour dad still living

hi jazzer
cowlishaws pond was behind the big tip at the bottom of manorlane the lakes u on about was in the quarry witch suppleid the brick yard at the pit is tour dad still living

hi jazzer
ask your dad if he remembers tommy trueman and his BULL DOG
he
lived across the street from you next door to MR&MRS GOUGE
if you go to pictures sheffield .com go on dolphin street you will get three photos of the street
hope that is helpfull

Jazzer, is Raymond Lavender aged 53/54, if he is I think I was in his class at school.

hi jazzer
cowlishaws pond was behind the big tip at the bottom of manorlane the lakes u on about was in the quarry witch suppleid the brick yard at the pit is tour dad still living

Hi Jackiegells

Yep we moved to basegreen and dad is still there. We wern't allowed too far over onto the pit proper - we were told a (ficticious)
bloke called Tommy White would get us and straying too far over would take us into Wybonite territory anyway. Since we would be instantly recognised as Dolphinites we would come running back as soon as we were spotted. All a bit scary for five year olds totally unsupervised by adults.

Jazzer, is Raymond Lavender aged 53/54, if he is I think I was in his class at school.

Yep, will be same age as me, but he went to Woodburn Road Juniors.
They got re-located to Gleadless valley if I remember right. My Dad insisted on a decent garden which is why we ended up in Basegreen.

[ made the mistake of letting one of our IT guys loose on my laptop
which has trashed my wireless broadband connection so might be intermittently off line at times...]

hi jazzer
ask your dad if he remembers tommy trueman and his BULL DOG
he
lived across the street from you next door to MR&MRS GOUGE
if you go to pictures sheffield .com go on dolphin street you will get three photos of the street
hope that is helpfull

Will do - I can locate 2 photos on picturesheffield, both very early.
I can't specifically recall the pig styes that are on the photos - our house backed onto them so we must have been able to smell them,
and they must have been there when I was cos my dad said I once
fell and came home totally covered in it.

I probably remember the dogs more than anything else - there was a boxer next to us (number 20) that used to lurk in our yard and wot eventually bit my brother.

-and at the bottom of the street near the nixons (shop) back yard
was a massif white bull mastif that eventually bit its owners arm almost off when he tried to remove a very large bone from the yard.

hi jazzar,good posts about dolphin street spent many a happy hour tadpoling in cowlishaws pond,i also went to hammerton school used to live on harrogate road.

Hi Steve1953

Can you remember the name of the teacher (upper juniors I think) who had obviously seen service in Burmah during the war and kept flashing off his Gurkha knife when he wasn't actually caning us ...
(all perfectly legal in those days....)

The only name I do remember is Mrs Lofthouse - I dragged my mam up to school more than once to tell her off for giving us long multiplication that was too hard.

Will do - I can locate 2 photos on picturesheffield, both very early.
I can't specifically recall the pig styes that are on the photos - our house backed onto them so we must have been able to smell them,
and they must have been there when I was cos my dad said I once
fell and came home totally covered in it.

I probably remember the dogs more than anything else - there was a boxer next to us (number 20) that used to lurk in our yard and wot eventually bit my brother.

-and at the bottom of the street near the nixons (shop) back yard
was a massif white bull mastif that eventually bit its owners arm almost off when he tried to remove a very large bone from the yard.

hi jazzer
Yes there was a lot of cess pits on the allotments due to the amount of pig styes
You was not the only one to fall in to a cess pit when i was younger a gang of us was playing hide and seek in the allotments and ALAN JOHNSON fell in he smelled for a week
Hope you dont mind but it is nice to talk about the old street

Yep, will be same age as me, but he went to Woodburn Road Juniors.
They got re-located to Gleadless valley if I remember right. My Dad insisted on a decent garden which is why we ended up in Basegreen.

[ made the mistake of letting one of our IT guys loose on my laptop
which has trashed my wireless broadband connection so might be intermittently off line at times...]

He was in my class then at Woodbourn Road, after that I went to Beaver Hill, like I said, we lived on Cottingham Street, left there in 1966 and went to Woodhouse. If you speak to him ask him if he remembers Ann Whiteley

You can still see on Google earth where Dolphin Street was ...its just a row of bushes / trees now behind a factory unit. The road above Dolphin is still there.

Hello Derrick

I remember your name and that of your brother as your dad and mine used to go up to the allotments together. I also remember that your dad had very dark hair. In fact, I still have a couple of gardening books somewhere that were given to me as Christmas presents by your mum and dad. They have a written inscription along the lines of "Merry Christmas Susan from Jonathan and Derrick". My name then was Susan Watson and my dad was called Les. We lived on Cottingham Street until 1959. I wonder if either of you remember me?

Hi jackygells - we were at no 22 from 1951 to 62 - the Guys - Alf, Renee, Jonathan and me (Derrick)

Hello Derrick

I remember your name and that of your brother as your dad and mine used to go up to the allotments together. I also remember that your dad had very dark hair. In fact, I still have a couple of gardening books somewhere that were given to me as Christmas presents by your mum and dad. They have a written inscription along the lines of "Merry Christmas Susan from Jonathan and Derrick". My name then was Susan Watson and my dad was called Les. We lived on Cottingham Street until 1959. I wonder if either of you remember me?
Hi Sue,

Just picked up your reply (my registration on Sheffield Forum keeps dropping)
I sort of remember Les - did you ever go up to the allotments with him (or us)

However my Dad is 87 next weekend so we will be calling in to see him and I'll
ask if he remembers anything.

You will have left Cottingham Street when I was 6 - where did you end up ?

cheers,

Derrick

Hi Sue,

Just picked up your reply (my registration on Sheffield Forum keeps dropping)
I sort of remember Les - did you ever go up to the allotments with him (or us)

However my Dad is 87 next weekend so we will be calling in to see him and I'll
ask if he remembers anything.

You will have left Cottingham Street when I was 6 - where did you end up ?

cheers,

Derrick

Hi Derrick

I'm about to 'pm' you - if I can manage it!

Sue

Dear Ronty

Have you tried the Sheff memorial depositary on Carver Street it is a small church next to the new fire station. The person I spoke to was Mrs Robinson about the memorial from Holy Trinity Darnall it was a while ago and I dont know if she is still there. If she doesnt know she may point you in the right direction.

There is also the National Inventry of War memorials on www.ukniwm.org.uk they might be able to tell you. If you know of a list for Holy Trinity Darnall can you let me know.

Good hunting,
Sue

This site is VERY good for info on most if not all the war memorials in Sheffield.
http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=4235
Hope this helps.
Baldy.

I used to live at 23 Dolphin Street with my Dad worked for British Rail. My Sister and Brother were born there too.
Our house was the other side of Marriotts Farm, Many a time my mum would say she would put us over the wall to the geese.
Uncle Alf and Auntie Rennee Guy were close friends to my parents, also Auntie Jean Gamble.
Our next door neighbour was Mrs Archer to one side and Pete and Ivy Spencer.
I remember crossing the railway bridge to go to Church and School.
There was a corner shop which my dad used to have a jug of beer on a Saturday.
We all played and grow up together, Happy Days.
When the Gails of 1962 hit we all had to move away which I remember was so very sad but we did keep in touch with alot of families.
If anyone remembers Don Gordon my late father please do feel free to reply? My name is Ruby.

its where my grandparents lived it was situated where the woodburn road atheltics stadium now stands....my grandma told me it was that narrow she could open her front door and knock on the door of the house across the road without moving off her front step,can anyone confirm this or better still show me a photo of it.

thanks
hi

my parents lived in dolphin street, they were called rita and brian lonsdale, my grandparents beatrice and fred hector, my aunt and uncle norah and david fox and their family. we moved from there when i was about 3 so dont remember anything about it. did you know any of them?

My great grandmother's husband and son were called Jacques, and were killed in the war and we lived in Dolphin Street. along with most of my other relatives.

Hi just to let you know that the hectors were my family, i am the eldest of rita hector, who has sister norah, brothers jack and fred

to Dean 1,hello ,I;m new to this forum.I was reading the Dolphin St., thread for information for a mate of mine,when I saw that you wanted the names of the men killed in the Nunnuery pit accident of 1923,If you get in touch,I'll send you the names Would have PM'd you ,but don't know how.

Hi just to let you know that the hectors were my family, i am the eldest of rita hector, who has sister norah, brothers jack and fred

hi fred hector was my grandad died in 2008 he moved with his wife elsie used to be called barnes to frechville where most of the family still live around the area

Hi,can anyone out there put me i touch with Ronty.Need to contact him about family history.One of my mates had the same Granddad as him(Champy Smith)

hi fred hector was my grandad died in 2008 he moved with his wife elsie used to be called barnes to frechville where most of the family still live around the area
My Mum and Dad lived at Dolphin Street and I remember Mr Hector and his wife.
After the Gales in the sixties everyone was moved out but My mum still keeps in touch with some of the families.

Dolphin St.

Closed off for Roadworks - July 17th - 1961



http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/dolphinst.jpg/

I used to live at 23 Dolphin Street with my Dad worked for British Rail. My Sister and Brother were born there too.
Our house was the other side of Marriotts Farm, Many a time my mum would say she would put us over the wall to the geese.
Uncle Alf and Auntie Rennee Guy were close friends to my parents, also Auntie Jean Gamble.
Our next door neighbour was Mrs Archer to one side and Pete and Ivy Spencer.
I remember crossing the railway bridge to go to Church and School.
There was a corner shop which my dad used to have a jug of beer on a Saturday.
We all played and grow up together, Happy Days.
When the Gails of 1962 hit we all had to move away which I remember was so very sad but we did keep in touch with alot of families.
If anyone remembers Don Gordon my late father please do feel free to reply?
My name is Ruby.

Hi ruby my name is Sandra Spencer Peter and ivys daughter I remember your family your brother donny and sister we used to visit you,i don't remember dolphin street as I was only one year old when we lived there, but your mum and my mum were friends for along time been looking at the pictures of dolphin street though, if I remember your mum is called Daphne Gordon hope all is well with your family.

:thumbsup: hi jazzer
i cant rember u but in 51 i was still at wooburn rd school i had two brothers TED &HAROLD and a sister MINIE GELSTHORPE
had some mates barry plant he went in the army same time as our ted and tommy gouge i rememer the johnsons the mays the hectors
drakes old MRS BISHOP at the corner shop and ANNIE NIXON had the fruit and veg shop on the other corner
IF U WANT ANY MORE INFO PLEASE LET ME KNO

Hi I have been searching my memory to but names to people I remember from Dolphin street and you give me two names Barry Plant he was in the same class as me and I remember going to their house with him I also r ember one of the Gouges, was the corner shop also a beer off.

Here is a list of names on the Dolphin Street ww1 memorial does anyone out there relate to them? I hope I got them right, can't guarantee it since the photo was a little out of focus and was of hand painted scroll writing. I apologise if they aren't correct.
The framed memorial was headed "For King and Country"
It had a a two line heading which is unclear but I think it says
"for the people killed and who answered the call of duty
from Dolphin Street and Broad Oaks Lane to the Great World War of 1914:

Killed and died of wounds
Pte A. Johnson RSF July1916 ( I think he was my grandad Turner's sister's relative)
Pte J Leary RSF March 1916 (we knew her as aunt Lizzie Johnson)
Pte J Elkington 1st july 1916 (He was my Aunt Annie's Dad she was one at the time)
Corporal N. Jaques W.Y. Oct 6th 1916
Gunner J. Jaques W.Y. 21st July 1917
Pte J. Wooley Jan 16th 1917
Pt J Waller Oct 2nd 1917
Pt K. Norton (or Martin not clear) Oct 5th 1917

Wounded
Pte J Smith Y & L
Pte J. Leary WY
Driver J. Drake RFA M.M.
L. Corporal H Drake S.W.W.R.
Rifleman J.H. Smith R.A. This was my grandad known as Champy.
Pt A.K. Jarvis 3rd W.Y.
Corporal V. Hutchinson W.Y. (My uncle married champy's Eldest daughter)
Pt K Bradbury D.L. I.
Corporal Halley R.S.F.
Pte Halley
Corporal J. W. Bellamy Y.I.
Corporal J. Bellamy RFA
Corporal J. Pegg R.E.
Pt J.Halgate? M.G.C.
Gunner J.H. Turner R.F.A. (my Uncle, he married Laura Bellamy Sister of above and Billy.
Pte F. Capel Y.I.
L. Corporal Latrant K.O.S.B.
Pte J. Thompson W.Y.
Pte A. Shepherd Y.I.
Pte J. Bagnall KOYLI
L Corporal P. Turner R.M.L.I. (my Dad)
Pte W. Newton Y.I.
Pte C.A. Capel 2nd R.M.F.

Not Wounded
Pte A.H. Burton 14th Glos
Sapper J Kirkham R.E.
Rifleman H. Emmingham K.R.R.
Pte W. Halley York R.
Pte W. Halley 14th Glos
Pte H. Hawley W.Y.
Pte A Birchwood A.S.C.
Gunner J. Lambert R.F.A.
JCES H. Hector R.F.A.
Pte A. Turner M.G.C. (my uncle Arthur)
Pte J. Harthill W.Y.
Pte F. Leary D.L.I.
Pte Bishop 2nd Res CAV
Pte E Smedley KOYLI
Pte G.A. Peach KOYLI
Sgt J.W. Leary D.L.I.
Pte A Inckley? KOYLI
Pte E. Jenkin R.M.L.I.
Pte W. Irveman C & G
Pte A. Nuttall W.Y.
Cpl D. May N.D.
Pte E. Johnson C & G
they all received good report and gloriously triumphed in victory
The path of duty was the way to victory
Suscribed by all the neighbours
Does anyone Know where the memorial went when the street was demolished?

Hi Ronty I have just discovered this sight and thanks for posting the contents of the WWI war memorial plaque. Rifleman J. H. Smith (Champy) was my great grandfather and V. Hutchinson was my mothers aunt's husband (uncle). Champy lived at 1 Broad Oaks Lane and my grandmother Alice Smith lived right next door to him. She married John Oldfield and had my mother. John died when my mother was five and Alice then married a Tommy Taylor. I remember a lot of the names in the other postings. Bringing back lots of memories!!!

hi missis, glad the photo was some help, i was born on harrogate road just off kettlebridge and dolphin streetwas no longer a bustling street me and my friends spent many a happy time tadpoling in cowlishaws pond which was part of the old nunnery pit remember the slag heaps well happy times.

we all played around cowlishaws pond when we were kids around 1955. i remember some kid drowned in there around that time.

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Hi whoever is still on this thread ..

We lived in Dolphin Street from 1951 to when it blew down in the gales of 1962, I was born in 1953 so had my first 9 years there. My dad still remembers a lot from those days and we are digging out some of the photos taken on my mothers box brownie. My dad was in lodgings at Mrs Taylors (no 2) before we were allocated a house (22)
and while there (approx 1948/1949 as far as I can work it out)distinctly remembers a somewhat unstable neighbour having a go at the memorial with an axe, presumably to destruction. Which will explain why no-one has managed to find it. I have a photo of the flattened street with Mariott's farm (between the street and the railway) still going strong, with new factories emerging over on
the pit site. When I think how much freedom we had to roam the pit stacks, build dams in the streams, scrumping apples from Mariots farm etc etc I realise how overprotected and underpriviledged kids of today actually are......

you will remember david fox then ?.

we all played around cowlishaws pond when we were kids around 1955. i remember some kid drowned in there around that time.

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you will remember david fox then ?.

Mrs. Taylor (Alice) was my grandmother. I lived in her house (with my family) for about a year around 1954 then again in 1957 for a couple of months before we immigrated to Canada. I remember playing on the pit hills but being ever watchful for the watchman. I don't remember his name but he used to run us off. In the winter I remember tobogganing down the hills. I remember a lot of the names I have seen mentioned but do distinctly remember a boy called Jonathan Guy. His father (believe his name was Alf) worked for the railway and took me one day to work and I rode in the engine with him. My brother and I went to Woodburn Road school for one year and had to cross the foot bridge to get there. Names I remember are Bishop, Drake, Googe, Egan, Hector, Nixon. I also remember a man with an artificial leg. I think his name was Stan.

mrs. Taylor (alice) was my grandmother. I lived in her house (with my family) for about a year around 1954 then again in 1957 for a couple of months before we immigrated to canada. I remember playing on the pit hills but being ever watchful for the watchman. I don't remember his name but he used to run us off. In the winter i remember tobogganing down the hills. I remember a lot of the names i have seen mentioned but do distinctly remember a boy called jonathan guy. His father (believe his name was alf) worked for the railway and took me one day to work and i rode in the engine with him. My brother and i went to woodburn road school for one year and had to cross the foot bridge to get there. Names i remember are bishop, drake, googe, egan, hector, nixon. I also remember a man with an artificial leg. I think his name was stan.

i lived in dolphin street from 1944 to 1955 the person with the artificial leg was my uncle stan hawley who was wounded in germany 2nd world war my name is stuart howden and we lived at no. 34

hi

my parents lived in dolphin street, they were called rita and brian lonsdale, my grandparents beatrice and fred hector, my aunt and uncle norah and david fox and their family. we moved from there when i was about 3 so dont remember anything about it. did you know any of them?

i knew the hectors and david fox. i remember david keeping pigeons in his loft.

i lived in dolphin street from 1944 to 1955 the person with the artificial leg was my uncle stan hawley who was wounded in germany 2nd world war my name is stuart howden and we lived at no. 34

Wow this is amazing stuff. As you have probably seen from earlier posts, I only lived there for a little while but I remember so much about it. All the people were friendly and helpful. The more posts I read the more memories come back. I went back to England in 2001 and went looking for Dolphin St./Broad Oaks Lane but sadly it had gone. I remember an old man who had a bulldog in a small wooden cage in his yard. We used to tease it sometimes.

Mrs. Taylor (Alice) was my grandmother. I lived in her house (with my family) for about a year around 1954 then again in 1957 for a couple of months before we immigrated to Canada. I remember playing on the pit hills but being ever watchful for the watchman. I don't remember his name but he used to run us off. In the winter I remember tobogganing down the hills. I remember a lot of the names I have seen mentioned but do distinctly remember a boy called Jonathan Guy. His father (believe his name was Alf) worked for the railway and took me one day to work and I rode in the engine with him. My brother and I went to Woodburn Road school for one year and had to cross the foot bridge to get there. Names I remember are Bishop, Drake, Googe, Egan, Hector, Nixon. I also remember a man with an artificial leg. I think his name was Stan.

jud drake was my brothers best freind when they were kids. my brothers name is walt christian we lived on ripon street.

Hi Kirky

I vaguely recall Dolphin street as being just over Kettle Bridge, behind a company that may have been called Record Ridgeway or Record tools..

It's what as kids back in the late 60's early 70's knew as Dolphin street anyhow!, the houses were gone completely and there was old cars/vans dumped on the land, from memory I don't think there were any other houses or anything (flippin' senility galloping on!!)

EDIT- Ha ha ha!!, I just looked at the date on Kirkys original post!- 2003!!!


Cheers, Biggsy :)