I have just had my car broken into and trashed - very little taken but the little b****rd wrecked it anyway and then tore open my new Gore-Tex jacket so he could take the lining out and set fire to the car. The poor little misunderstood ******** was from Rossington - I feel like naming him but I won't. He went to Mablethorpe at the weekend wrecked his Grandmas caravan and then nicked a car on the way home and it ran out of fuel near my house so thats when he found the car.

He was tagged because he had just got out of prison 2 weeks ago but he took it off so it wouldn't spoil his weekend in Mablethorpe.

I have been surprised by some of the reactions I have been getting from everyday people about this - some people laugh (I suppose it is quite funny) some girls want to meet the guy and shag him and some blokes sympathise with him and want to be him - some people consider him a bit of a hero.

What the hell is going on? I'd be interested to hear from other victims of crime.

Bring back hanging :mad:

Only for incurable scrotes like this :loopy:

Strix - That is exactly the way I feel but I think it is only because I have been the victim. I am glad you think like this - I live in rural Lincolnshire and these reactions from people I have only witnessed round there - not the people in Sheffield. I think its because life in the country can be a bit dull and, this is quite exciting for them.

I have lived near Spalding and in Peterborough. Crime there is far scarier when you know the nearest police car is probably over 20 miles away. Your nearest neighbour could be 10 miles away, and as for the pikeys....

But in Sheffield there isn't the same fear of travellers, as the ones passing through here are a different breed to the farm equipment stealing homicidal nutters in those parts.

I'm from Liverpool BTW ;)

i think everyone probably has at some time. as for the street yobs, bring on the boot camps!

Degrade them, humiliate them, teach the little b****s some discipline. OR, what about bringing on some of the old days - put them in the stocks for a week in the city centre - and put the "do-gooders" in with them!

Originally posted by teeb
put them in the stocks for a week in the city centre - and put the "do-gooders" in with them!

The 'do-gooders' are top of my list of least favourite people at the moment. They play a large part in ensuring this country is a haven of freedom for people who's beliefs wouldn't be tolerated in their own country :suspect:

(Strix is having a 'right-wing' day :rolleyes: )

I have been surprised by some of the reactions I have been getting from everyday people about this - some people laugh (I suppose it is quite funny) some girls want to meet the guy and shag him and some blokes sympathise with him and want to be him - some people consider him a bit of a hero.

I sympathise with him ........and I'd like to rip his head off to put him out his misery!!

S**G him? Oh for god's sake, what is the world coming to???? I couldn't think of a social group I would like less to do with, let alone share genital traffic with!!! Helloooo-o!

Yes, I have been a victin of crime heaps of times, wallet stolen in Paris several times, and handbag, had ditto in London, boyf (then) had the car broken into, they too weird stuff but not the mobile phone which I'd left on the seat, the best one was when we had our car stolen on our wedding day, dumped and torched. We were stranded, got married in Sheffield, lived in London, had to get the bloody coach back.

I just console myself by saying ath I can only hope that they need whatever they've taken more than I do, but I can't see that helping in this situation melb.

And how do you know who he is?

Originally posted by Strix
The 'do-gooders' are top of my list of least favourite people at the moment. They play a large part in ensuring this country is a haven of freedom for people who's beliefs wouldn't be tolerated in their own country :suspect:

(Strix is having a 'right-wing' day :rolleyes: )

and as for "human rights", more like "criminals' charter" - what about the rights of the victims?

I'm human too!!!!!

Why don't the majority have rights?????!!!!!????? :rant:

The majority do - the criminals, the scroungers, the illegal immigrants, ill behaved little brats - am i being cynical in believing that the average person, who goes out, does a fair days' work and commits no crime, are becoming a minority?

sod human rights - it's nothing but a criminals' charter

And what's th eproblem with CCTV?

If you're not up to no good, why would you not want somebody watching your back for you? :confused:

There's one young lady in Doncaster who must be very glad of 'big brother' watching her ;)

And fingerprints and DNA - the only ones that have fear of these are the criminal elements.

When you have someone threaten your life you tend to enjoy appreciate your life a little more afterwards. Years ago, my girlfriend (now my wife) and I were having an argument in the car at about 10 p.m. in front of her parents house. Not paying attention to what was going on around us, a couple of guys came up from behind and one placed a 45 magnum against my neck. He demanded that I give him money or he would blow my head off. I asked him if I could keep the wallet and ID since they would be of no real use to him. He reluctantly agreed to let me keep them. Later on when the police came, they informed me that while it was a stupid idea, it probably saved my life in that it threw him off just enough to think before shooting. The funny thing was that for days afterwards I was in a semi-euphoric state as I felt that I had somehow cheated death. Logic would dictate that he most likely would not have shot me, but then you really don't know for sure. :huh:

Originally posted by lizzmobile
S**G him? Oh for god's sake, what is the world coming to???? I couldn't think of a social group I would like less to do with, let alone share genital traffic with!!! Helloooo-o!

Yes, I have been a victin of crime heaps of times, wallet stolen in Paris several times, and handbag, had ditto in London, boyf (then) had the car broken into, they too weird stuff but not the mobile phone which I'd left on the seat, the best one was when we had our car stolen on our wedding day, dumped and torched. We were stranded, got married in Sheffield, lived in London, had to get the bloody coach back.

I just console myself by saying ath I can only hope that they need whatever they've taken more than I do, but I can't see that helping in this situation melb.

And how do you know who he is?

Sorry to hear that 'on your wedding day' that is awful - it makes me sick. This isn't the 1st time I have been a victim either.

I keep thinking of things that are missing and I didn't stop straight away like my new MP3 player.

Helloooo-o are you telling me that you have never met people who find crime glamorous and exciting especially some young women - have you ever been to HMP Lindholme, Moorlands and Lincoln and seen who is visiting the cons? Gorgeous women in BMWs Audis Mercs turn up.

Normally I don't care but when you are footing a £1000.00 + bill for the actions of someone else - while you are asleep it hurts.

Normally I don't care - I used to be a contractor for prisons and you have to basically do your job and turn a blind eye to whatever these people have done - but you can't once you have been a victim.

I agree with everything Strix has said and I douibt these do gooders have ever been victims.

As for knowing who he is his Stepfather was 'chasing him' and he told me his name and he was spotted before and after the crime. He is known to the cops and they have his fingerprints.

Originally posted by Chicago
When you have someone threaten your life you tend to enjoy appreciate your life a little more afterwards. Years ago, my girlfriend (now my wife) and I were having an argument in the car at about 10 p.m. in front of her parents house. Not paying attention to what was going on around us, a couple of guys came up from behind and one placed a 45 magnum against my neck. He demanded that I give him money or he would blow my head off. I asked him if I could keep the wallet and ID since they would be of no real use to him. He reluctantly agreed to let me keep them. Later on when the police came, they informed me that while it was a stupid idea, it probably saved my life in that it threw him off just enough to think before shooting. The funny thing was that for days afterwards I was in a semi-euphoric state as I felt that I had somehow cheated death. Logic would dictate that he most likely would not have shot me, but then you really don't know for sure. :huh:

That is truely awful - was that in Sheffield or USA, I am guessing USA. I can't even begin to imagine what that was like. I have never been robbed at knife or gun point (touches wood) thank god. Britain is quite a dangerous place at the moment it would seem.

I am one of those 'evil' do-gooders

And I have been the victim of lots of crimes.

I also have met and work with a lot of criminals (or 'yobs' as you might prefer to call them).

And I like most of them.

I guess its easier to talk about putting them in stocks, humiliating them, hanging them, etc than to actually do something useful...

That was a bit nasty. Will get over my bad day.... sos peeps! :smile:

Several times, luckily nothing too serious. My little Fiesta, old but running like a dream was stolen the week before I started a new job. I was gutted, had a 3 bus journey which takes about 20 minutes by car. The bit that made me seethe was the police found it but the insurance company would'nt let me have it back and wrote it off. I was told it was empty of all my personal belongings (don't believe that) and offered £200. It felt like being robbed twice. :mad:

I thank goodness have never been a victim of a crime, i personally don't know any one who has now i think about it, just what i read in the paper, seems to be world wide.

often thought what i would do thought if it did happen. :confused:

Quote"Helloooo-o are you telling me that you have never met people who find crime glamorous and exciting especially some young women - have you ever been to HMP Lindholme, Moorlands and Lincoln and seen who is visiting the cons? Gorgeous women in BMWs Audis Mercs turn up."

Nope, in my varied and well-travelled life, I have never met anyone who finds crime glamorous, never been to ANY prison, TVM so have nio idea, maybe just not in the "right" circles. Don't know anyone in prison either.

Thanks for your empathy, some things just never go away.

Originally posted by Utah " the insurance company would'nt let me have it back and wrote it off. I was told it was empty of all my personal belongings (don't believe that) and offered £200. It felt like being robbed twice"

Tell me about it, those people are legalised theives. We got £300 for ours, just pathetic. I HATE insurance companies, they peel you blind and give you nothing and I hate even more that they are compulsory.

Originally posted by chickmonk
I am one of those 'evil' do-gooders

And I have been the victim of lots of crimes.

I also have met and work with a lot of criminals (or 'yobs' as you might prefer to call them).

And I like most of them.

I guess its easier to talk about putting them in stocks, humiliating them, hanging them, etc than to actually do something useful...

So they're really very nice people then!

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what's so nice about the yobs that batter people (probably with a baseball bat) if you so much as look at them, the yobs that rob little old ladies, the yobs that steal cars and don't care who they mow down.

Originally posted by chickmonk
I am one of those 'evil' do-gooders

And I have been the victim of lots of crimes.

I also have met and work with a lot of criminals (or 'yobs' as you might prefer to call them).

And I like most of them.

I guess its easier to talk about putting them in stocks, humiliating them, hanging them, etc than to actually do something useful...

Christians and I am sure other religions preach forgiveness - but if somebody offends you in anyway it is a natural reaction to feel anger against them.

These people must suffer the consequences of their actions otherwise the world would be bedlam we would have no law and order and we would live in anarchy.

I have worked with these offenders aswell and at times I have found myself liking some of them myself - They are people after all - I don't know if this is because I have met them all inside prison where some are doing long sentences and the harshness of being in Prison makes them want to actually chat to anyone who isn't a 'screw' or a con.

'Something Useful' should be a deterrent and I am not saying put them in stocks and defiantly not saying hang them but..........aggression should be met with aggression and brutality must be met with brutality - our levels of violent (and other) crime are rising so we are obviously not doing the right things - I think we need a radical shake up of our law and immigration policies - I have thought this for a while.

Originally posted by lizzmobile
Quote"Helloooo-o are you telling me that you have never met people who find crime glamorous and exciting especially some young women - have you ever been to HMP Lindholme, Moorlands and Lincoln and seen who is visiting the cons? Gorgeous women in BMWs Audis Mercs turn up."

Nope, in my varied and well-travelled life, I have never met anyone who finds crime glamorous, never been to ANY prison, TVM so have nio idea, maybe just not in the "right" circles. Don't know anyone in prison either.

Thanks for your empathy, some things just never go away.

This happens - you should perhaps visit a prison it is an eye opening experience.

If you like travel (like I do) you obviously like new experiences and broadening your mind.

Originally posted by lizzmobile
Originally posted by Utah " the insurance company would'nt let me have it back and wrote it off. I was told it was empty of all my personal belongings (don't believe that) and offered £200. It felt like being robbed twice"

Tell me about it, those people are legalised theives. We got £300 for ours, just pathetic. I HATE insurance companies, they peel you blind and give you nothing and I hate even more that they are compulsory.

Ditto Ditto Ditto

Let's stop pretending these little sh***ts are "misunderstood" and hard done to - they ruin peoples lives - give them their just deserts!

Yup, I'm another do-gooder who's been the victim of crime on several occasions. Only last month my car was broken into in London, window smashed, stereo crowbarred out and some other incidental damage - the insurance company have told me the car is a write-off (though it's still perfectly driveable). I was pretty miserable about it at the time, but I'm over it now: just another one of life's ups and downs.

My wife has worked quite a bit with young offenders: she temped at a young offenders' institute in London (looking after a teenage murderer) and helped to set up Sheffield's Intensive Surveillance & Supervision Programme (to try to rehabilitate repeat young offenders, rather than sending them to prison) and, yes, they're all human beings and possible to get one with.

Surprisingly, about half of the teenage repeat offenders she worked with were fathered by the same man, although some didn't know this as they had different mothers, so I'm inclined to think there's a strong genetic element to behaviour like this.

Originally posted by DanSumption
Yup, I'm another do-gooder who's been the victim of crime on several occasions. Only last month my car was broken into in London, window smashed, stereo crowbarred out and some other incidental damage - the insurance company have told me the car is a write-off (though it's still perfectly driveable). I was pretty miserable about it at the time, but I'm over it now: just another one of life's ups and downs.

My wife has worked quite a bit with young offenders: she temped at a young offenders' institute in London (looking after a teenage murderer) and helped to set up Sheffield's Intensive Surveillance & Supervision Programme (to try to rehabilitate repeat young offenders, rather than sending them to prison) and, yes, they're all human beings and possible to get one with.

Surprisingly, about half of the teenage repeat offenders she worked with were fathered by the same man, although some didn't know this as they had different mothers, so I'm inclined to think there's a strong genetic element to behaviour like this.

Please, please somebody tell me what an 'evil do gooder' is, what do they actually want? What do they actually think of our current legal system? How can it be improved - I am genuinely interested. Everyone wants to prevent crime so how do we do this - answers from 'evil do gooders' and 'friendly do badders' please.

yes,my friend last night,came home about 1.30 in the morning nipped upstairs to use the loo,when she got back downstairs some little tealeaf had been in the kitchen took her purse out of her handbag,took the money out of the purse left the credit cards,took her phone and her ciggies,all in a matter of mins,scumbags.

Originally posted by melbournian
Please, please somebody tell me what an 'evil do gooder' is, what do they actually want? What do they actually think of our current legal system? How can it be improved
Lots of ways that will help, but no magic bullets.

I was awake at about 3.30am last night, listening to the World Service. There was a fascinating interview with Stephen Levitt, the author of Freakonomics (http://www.freakonomics.com/). He talked about how people always think crime is on the increase, even when it's decreasing, and about how people are always more scared of rare things than the more commonplace (for example in the USA, houses with swimming pools are 100 times more deadly for children than houses with guns in). But he also talked quite a bit about crime prevention: for example, making abortion more easily available is as effective at preventing crime (in the long run) as putting more people in prison: if you are an unwanted child, there is a high likelihood that you will become a criminal, in fact the only thing that is a more accurate predictor of your likelihood to become a criminal is if you are male.

Levitt's most remarkable achievement is in writing a book on Economics which is likely to appeal to the general reader. I suppose it had to happen sometime. What I like about Levitt's book is that it recognises that Economics is a multidisciplinary subject, and that economic events and issues cannot be understood without giving due importance to social, political and psychological variables. The very best Economists have always recognised this.

BY melbournian This happens - you should perhaps visit a prison it is an eye opening experience.

Yeah, I know, I agree, I 've always been kinda intrigued by prisons but in a morbid way. I always half hoped that I'd get arrested on a Mayday protest, but the other half always ran away :hihi:

And as for mind broadening, couldn't agree more.

PS You got snow?