View Full Version : How can I receive Channel five in Ranmoor


PopT
11-08-2005, 20:38
Still cannot get Channel five even with a freeview box on the topside of Graham Road at Ranmoor.

Is there anything I can try to achieve this without wasting money on so called miracle aerials.

Does anyone know when cable tv will be available in this area.

I believe there is a new one cash payment Sky system available.

Will that work in this area, is it any good.

Can anyone advise please


Happy Days!

Carl_Malibu
11-08-2005, 20:53
shoot the people who didnt want masts put up?

nimbys ;)

PopT
11-08-2005, 21:00
Carl Malibu

Thanks for your positive imput

Why waste everybody's time posting such comments.

davep
11-08-2005, 22:16
If you can get line of sight to 28 degrees East you can use a Sky box. You will need a Freesat card from Sky (£20 one-off payment) and that will do the trick. I sorted one out for my mum as she couldn't get good reception on any channels via her aerial. A second hand Sky box should knock you back around £25-30 plus installation. If you do go the Sky way, it will also give you access to all the BBC and ITV regions as well, plus BBC3 and BBC4 but WON'T get you E4 or UK History, as although they are free-to-air on Freeview, they are part of the subscription package on Sky to prevent them being seen by viewers outside the UK.
Hope this info helps.

Strix
11-08-2005, 22:22
Or you could sit tight and see if things improve after the engineering work (http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/tv_trans/index.shtml) ;)

ToryCynic
11-08-2005, 22:48
Originally posted by PopT
Still cannot get Channel five even with a freeview box on the topside of Graham Road at Ranmoor.

Is there anything I can try to achieve this without wasting money on so called miracle aerials.

Does anyone know when cable tv will be available in this area.

I believe there is a new one cash payment Sky system available.

Will that work in this area, is it any good.

Can anyone advise please


Happy Days!

There is Freesat - Sky's new service; your missing very little on five apart from budget programming and poor American imports - interestingly, the relatives in Walkley can get five through analogue, but they couldn't at Psalter.

davep
11-08-2005, 23:10
The analogue signal on Five from the Sheffield transmitter is VERY low power compared with 1-4. I am fortunate in being able to "see" the Emley Moor signal and that is almost as powerful as their 1-4, and its almost in the same band B as the others, whereas the Sheffield one is at totally the other end of the band so you MUST have a wideband aerial in order to get anything like good reception.
If you can reach it yourself, you could try changing the existing aerial for a High Gain Wideband aerial (B+Q do them) but watch out if you can't as there are a few rip-off merchants doing Digital aerial installations.

PopT
12-10-2005, 20:54
Thanks Dave for your advice and thanks to everybody who helped me.

Happy Days!

Lurch
12-10-2005, 21:07
Originally posted by davep
there are a few rip-off merchants doing Digital aerial installations.

Well, they're not actually 'doing' the digital aerial installation as there isn't a digital aerial as such. They are just fitting aerials that can receive digital, as can aerials that have been upon rooftops for 20 odd years.

davep
13-10-2005, 19:40
Lurch, the aerials that have been on rooftops for 20 odd years will NOT receive digital from the Sheffield Transmitter as they are NOT wideband. They are most certainly group A (channels 21 to 34 approx).
The Digital packages are broadcast on 39,42,45,53,57,60.
Notice something ??? Yes, they are ALL out of band from your 20 odd year old aerial, so unless someone is sat almost under the transmitter at Crosspool, they will get maybe 1 package if they are lucky.
If you don't know, don't get people's hopes up by telling them lies.

ToryCynic
13-10-2005, 20:59
Originally posted by davep
Lurch, the aerials that have been on rooftops for 20 odd years will NOT receive digital from the Sheffield Transmitter as they are NOT wideband. They are most certainly group A (channels 21 to 34 approx).
The Digital packages are broadcast on 39,42,45,53,57,60.
Notice something ??? Yes, they are ALL out of band from your 20 odd year old aerial, so unless someone is sat almost under the transmitter at Crosspool, they will get maybe 1 package if they are lucky.
If you don't know, don't get people's hopes up by telling them lies.

Incorrect, it is the type of aerial that you have that makes a difference - there is no such thing as a digital aerial...

:)

Greybeard
14-10-2005, 16:11
Originally posted by kentboy119
Incorrect, it is the type of aerial that you have that makes a difference - there is no such thing as a digital aerial...

:)

Isn't that what Lurch said "... there isn't a digital aerial as such" :confused:

In fact a lot of old aerials do work with Freeview but the old downlead doesn't. You'll need a better downlead than the old 75 ohm coax which just isn't up to the job and is often full of water. CT100 downlead is the solution but if you're going to get a rigger on site for that you might as well have him fit a new aerial of the correct type at the same time ;)

For Sheffield the aerial group is W.

Lostrider
17-10-2005, 19:41
Try This Ariel Checker (http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?DX=L&OS=)

davep
17-10-2005, 20:08
What I was trying to say is that I know there is no such thing as a "Digital Aerial", only "Digital Compatable", but people do sell them as "Digital" aerials 'cos that is what people are asking for. The proper term is Wideband, so Lurch's 20-odd year old group A will struggle.
I am in the happy position of getting my signals from Emley Moor. The digital packages on that transmitter are all approximately in group B (the same band as the analogue signals), so the original aerial worked with no problem, but it's a different kettle of fish with the Sheffield transmitter, and they are lower power than the analogue signals, so it's Medium or High Gain Wideband, or sod-all signal. I agree with changing the co-ax anyway, as this deteriorates with age, so whilst changing the aerial, have the co-ax done at the same time. Co-ax is relatively cheap anyway.