View Full Version : What about both grounds hosting matches?


SOLID BLADE
05-01-2010, 22:13
Because Sheffield is the home of football do you think we both should demand matches be played at both grounds. I'm all for united but if we both use our passions for our respective clubs we could maybe make the F.A use both grounds plus would it be a first. "Seriously" I dont know where to start with such an idea but surely someone on here does. Come on we are the HOME of footy come on SHEFFIELD. Get back people and be serious

Panthera
05-01-2010, 22:26
I may be wrong but, wasnt that the idea of the city council and swfc who wanted the city to enter one joint bid so both clubs could share the games, but utd didnt want to so individual bids were tendered.

SOLID BLADE
05-01-2010, 22:28
Yeah but if England gets it, im fed with liverpool this manchester that. I think we should demand it plus it would be pretty funky for two grounds in the same city to host games simbolic

SOLID BLADE
05-01-2010, 22:30
anyway discuss people

CorkerSWFC
05-01-2010, 22:34
The parking issues around Bramall lane, and the lack of places for fan's without tickets from other countries to chill out and watch the game on big screens are the reason Hillsborough was chosen, Bramall lane is situated in a pretty run down area to be fair look at the state of the surrounding areas around the lane, and it has lack of space around it, viable parking options, etc etc.

AltyOwl
05-01-2010, 22:37
Yeah but if England gets it, im fed with liverpool this manchester that. I think we should demand it plus it would be pretty funky for two grounds in the same city to host games simbolic

I wanted both grounds to be included, but it's not going to happen now. The idea was proposed, but United wanted to go alone. In all honesty, only one stadium in Sheffield was ever going to be included, which still isn't a definate.

alex3659
05-01-2010, 22:44
I wanted both grounds to be included, but it's not going to happen now. The idea was proposed, but United wanted to go alone. In all honesty, only one stadium in Sheffield was ever going to be included, which still isn't a definate.

How many times are you all gonna repeat this topic in one title or another?

Antics^^
05-01-2010, 22:49
I wanted both grounds to be included, but it's not going to happen now. The idea was proposed, but United wanted to go alone. In all honesty, only one stadium in Sheffield was ever going to be included, which still isn't a definate.

So McCabe decided go alone because there seemed little chance of a the two ground idea? Wednesday are trying to portray KM as some kind of spoilt brat, when in fact he congratulated both SWFC and our city for the award.

LADYBIRDS
05-01-2010, 22:51
The parking issues around Bramall lane, and the lack of places for fan's without tickets from other countries to chill out and watch the game on big screens are the reason Hillsborough was chosen, Bramall lane is situated in a pretty run down area to be fair look at the state of the surrounding areas around the lane, and it has lack of space around it, viable parking options, etc etc.

just let Hillsbrough, have it.

But the parking would not be an issue, a park and ride scheme, using graves park or an other venue could be used. parking around the ground is unlikly to be allowed. EXCLUSION ZONES FOR WORLD CUP MATCHES FOR SECURITY CHECKS
AND TICKET CHECK POINTS ETC. is Hillsbrough any better for parking?

The Royal Ascot meeting in York had a park and ride and it worked very well.

The approach to bramall lane from the train station via the water features and up shoreham street could be done up into a football themed walkway with no problems. So Hillsbrough has the tram, but United has the main train station.

Its 8 years away and a local restructure again would be no issue in the time scale.

The faliure of a suitable local fan zone at present may be a bigger issue, but would have ample time to solve that one.

As i said give it Hillsbrough, forget the appeals and take it on the chin.

AltyOwl
05-01-2010, 22:59
How many times are you all gonna repeat this topic in one title or another?

Expand? Just replying to the thread.

Panthera
05-01-2010, 23:00
So McCabe decided go alone because there seemed little chance of a the two ground idea? Wednesday are trying to portray KM as some kind of spoilt brat, when in fact he congratulated both SWFC and our city for the award.
No more like he wanted all the games at the lane and thought hillsborough wouldn't get a look in so didnt want to merge bids, but his decision turned round and bit him in the a$$, course he's going to congratulate the winner but i bet he tried to crush straffords hand when he shook it hee hee

AltyOwl
05-01-2010, 23:02
So McCabe decided go alone because there seemed little chance of a the two ground idea? Wednesday are trying to portray KM as some kind of spoilt brat, when in fact he congratulated both SWFC and our city for the award.

Not at all. Wednesday have just mentioned they would have liked all of South Yorkshire involved, with both Sheffield stadiums used. United had every right to go alone and no one would have begrudged United getting it....well I wouldn't.....Does that imply McCabe is a spoilt brat? No,....but moaning about not getting chosen will not help Sheffield's bid and certainly doesn't gain anything for United.

Antics^^
05-01-2010, 23:16
Not at all. Wednesday have just mentioned they would have liked all of South Yorkshire involved, with both Sheffield stadiums used. United had every right to go alone and no one would have begrudged United getting it....well I wouldn't.....Does that imply McCabe is a spoilt brat? No,....but moaning about not getting chosen will not help Sheffield's bid and certainly doesn't gain anything for United.

McCabe rejected suggestions that United had refused to present a joint-bid with Wednesday - "Sheffield is a big city. I was happy to do it if that was the best thing. It's a matter of record."

McCabe confirmed he had been prepared to finance the cost of increasing facilities and capacity to FIFA requirements.

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You said earlier that a joint bid was likely to fail, so why would KM waste time and money going down this avenue?

Do you really think Strafford wanted a to share the occasion with United out of the goodness of his heart? It's more likely he felt Hillsborough had a better chance with the joint bid, which the makes the outcome even more bizzare!

McCabe seems like he's more bemused than anything else. If I didn't get a job after an interview I'd have every right to seek clarification on the reasons for the rejection.

LADYBIRDS
05-01-2010, 23:27
As a Blade of course there must be a little envy, from Mr McCabe. All the cash, hard work and progress made by his club over the past decade, coming second to a ground and set up, thats famed for the "dulux 5" ,debt and Straffords forcasts !!

But unless there is proof of fraud, dodgy plans and even brown paper bags. Let McCabe and the board take it on the chin, regain our premiership status and look down from a far in 2018.


One tip for the World cup planing panel.... dont let Stafford do the sums;)

AltyOwl
05-01-2010, 23:35
McCabe rejected suggestions that United had refused to present a joint-bid with Wednesday - "Sheffield is a big city. I was happy to do it if that was the best thing. It's a matter of record."

McCabe confirmed he had been prepared to finance the cost of increasing facilities and capacity to FIFA requirements.

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You said earlier that a joint bid was likely to fail, so why would KM waste time and money going down this avenue?

Do you really think Strafford wanted a to share the occasion with United out of the goodness of his heart? It's more likely he felt Hillsborough had a better chance with the joint bid, which the makes the outcome even more bizzare!

McCabe seems like he's more bemused than anything else. If I didn't get a job after an interview I'd have every right to seek clarification on the reasons for the rejection.

Well someones telling porkies. Strafford came out with it early on in Wednesday's bid and there was no responce from McCabe then.
Even so, there's no point and it gains United nothing with seeking 'clarification', Hillsborough has been chosen. I think it would have been great if both grounds had been chosen.

AltyOwl
05-01-2010, 23:39
As a Blade of course there must be a little envy, from Mr McCabe. All the cash, hard work and progress made by his club over the past decade, coming second to a ground and set up, thats famed for the "dulux 5" ,debt and Straffords forcasts !!

But unless there is proof of fraud, dodgy plans and even brown paper bags. Let McCabe and the board take it on the chin, regain our premiership status and look down from a far in 2018.


One tip for the World cup planing panel.... dont let Stafford do the sums;)

Come on theres not much between the grounds at the present time.. Both clubs have/had fantastic plans, with Hillsborough's location edging it.
I hope the City Council and the World Cup committee have seen proof of funding etc etc for Hillsborough's renovation otherwise more fool them. I honestly thought it should have been Hillsborough chosen, but if plans don't come to fruition, then Bramall Lane should be there as a 'back-up'.

Moosey
06-01-2010, 08:08
As a Blade of course there must be a little envy, from Mr McCabe. All the cash, hard work and progress made by his club over the past decade, coming second to a ground and set up, thats famed for the "dulux 5" ,debt and Straffords forcasts !!

But unless there is proof of fraud, dodgy plans and even brown paper bags. Let McCabe and the board take it on the chin, regain our premiership status and look down from a far in 2018.


One tip for the World cup planing panel.... dont let Stafford do the sums;)

Sensible posting. Accepted the choice, as annoying as it probably was, after all, you'll be in the premiership way before us, and have the bragging rights at the moment on pretty much everything else!

LADYBIRDS
06-01-2010, 10:52
Come on theres not much between the grounds at the present time.. Both clubs have/had fantastic plans, with Hillsborough's location edging it.
I hope the City Council and the World Cup committee have seen proof of funding etc etc for Hillsborough's renovation otherwise more fool them. I honestly thought it should have been Hillsborough chosen, but if plans don't come to fruition, then Bramall Lane should be there as a 'back-up'.

Funding that involves cash:) Right Mc Cabes proven record or Straffords spin??

now thats any easy choice.;)

Strafford and funding !! ho ho ho Dont let him have owt to do with it... For the sake of Sheffield, Hillsbrough, the world cup and English football keep him well away from any role .

sccman
06-01-2010, 11:34
LETS SOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL, THE GROUNDS WERE CHOSEN IN CITYS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS,

1, FIFA ARE LOOKING AT THE GREEN ISSUES AND THE FOOTPRINT OF THE WORLD CUP ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN AND GONE.

2, Englands bid has submitted or will submit, at least for Grounds that were presented as paper and are yet to be built, in all senses of the word.

Nottingham Forest, ( Major rebuilding suggested in their bid)
Bristol City DITTO
MILTON KEYNES (Uncompleted staduim that would have
investment if it got the bid)
Plymouth Argyle Again major investment and a nearly full rebilud of a
ground totally dependant on the bid.

Hillsborough All of the above on this ground,

3, Paper bids are far easier then current built stadiums, Not being a cynic but the FA as well as the clubs can promise the world if it is not already created,

NEW stadium bids have included such things as solar powering of grandstands, reuse of rain water to irrgated the playing surface, and communtiy uses for FREE after the buidling is complete.


ALL THIS HAS BEEN PROMISED AT HILLSBOROUGH, BRAMALL LANE IS BUILT AND THE BID COULDNT LIE. THESE GREEN THINGS ARE NOT IN PLACE.

SO LETS GET AWAY FROM HOTELS AND HOW FANS CAN WATCH THE GAME AWAY FROM THE STADIUM THAT IS BULL. ???? WE ALL REALY KNOW THAT FIFA DONT GIVE A MONKEY ABOUT THE FANS.

LADYBIRDS
06-01-2010, 11:50
IF its social and structural redevelopments thats the issue, give it Brazil.

It seems in Sheffield Uniteds case, decades of hard work and successful business planing have been over looked.

And the nod has been give to one of the disaster storys in English football, Europe to relegation fights. DI canio to debts!! Sheffield Wednesday.

As stated we have to accept the award, and move on. By gaining our present objectives, proving we are a solvent club on and off the pitch we can turn round to the F.A in 2018, with two proud fingers.

Strafford and the F.A !! now thats a partnership to avoid:) What forcasts has Strafford given th F.A? its FRIGHTNING to think:)

But there should be some comical value in the bid, in years to come.

sheff71
06-01-2010, 19:06
The whole smokescreen about a joint bid, and that Sheffield would be deemed worthy of having two grounds at the finals is laughable really - if that was at all possible, i'm pretty sure the scousers would've forwarded Goodison alongside Anfield ahead of either Sheffield ground! There's already 3 venues in London and 2 in Manchester, so never a hope of another city with multiple venues (as nice a thought as that might've been).

Sheffield's lucky to have one ground in the running still really, when you consider Stamford Bridge and either the Olympic Stadium or the new Spurs ground won't be used, as well as Goodison.

Still, as long as those hotbeds of football in Plymouth and Milton Keynes get matches that's all that matters...!

Grandad.Malky
06-01-2010, 19:30
the scousers would've forwarded Goodison ...!

:o Have you been lately?

swervin
06-01-2010, 21:01
The parking issues around Bramall lane, and the lack of places for fan's without tickets from other countries to chill out and watch the game on big screens are the reason Hillsborough was chosen, Bramall lane is situated in a pretty run down area to be fair look at the state of the surrounding areas around the lane, and it has lack of space around it, viable parking options, etc etc.

Have you paid a visit to wembley and seen the state of surounding area's its a joke mate, nice stadium but thats all

alex3659
06-01-2010, 21:06
Have you paid a visit to wembley and seen the state of surounding area's its a joke mate, nice stadium but thats all

Hillsboroughs surrouding areas aren't exactly mayfair.
Some of these owls are have a bubble on that subject.

Panthera
06-01-2010, 21:32
i went for the semi against the blades even back it was a (removed)

CorkerSWFC
06-01-2010, 21:36
I was very young the last time i went to wembley, all i can remember is it being a super super day.
The thing wembley does have though is if its London its good enough, never mind what the surroundings or the situation it is.

scoobydotcom
06-01-2010, 22:34
The whole smokescreen about a joint bid, and that Sheffield would be deemed worthy of having two grounds at the finals is laughable really - if that was at all possible, i'm pretty sure the scousers would've forwarded Goodison alongside Anfield ahead of either Sheffield ground! There's already 3 venues in London and 2 in Manchester, so never a hope of another city with multiple venues (as nice a thought as that might've been).

Sheffield's lucky to have one ground in the running still really, when you consider Stamford Bridge and either the Olympic Stadium or the new Spurs ground won't be used, as well as Goodison.

Still, as long as those hotbeds of football in Plymouth and Milton Keynes get matches that's all that matters...!

couldnt hv said it better mate ...