I will be coming from the south to stay around this area at xmas and am wondering what it is like round there. Is it a well to do, run-down or ordinary area, are there plenty of shops, is it crime ridden or orderly, the ethnic mix, any students - things like that.

And how far is it from the city centre.

Fairly run down, high crime rate - mainly burglary and drugs, mostly council flats or terrace houses, high number of ethnic minorities. Closed down pub in the centre of the area. Congested with traffic - narrow roads. Not much in the way of shops, mainly residential. Some students live there. Not far from the city centre.....but I wouldn't walk the streets at night there.

PS Welcome to the Forum!

Have a look at this :

http://www.upmystreet.com/overview/?l1=s11

Nomme

It's about a 20 minute walk from the city centre, if you walk fairly fast like I do. There's a couple of good chippies just off it, and it connects to London Road which has a great off-licence known as Steers Beers and loads of take-aways. There's also some good pubs down London Road.

Map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=434250&y=385750&z=1&sv=434250,385750&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf)

Sharrow Lane is a residential road with an off licence and chippy. The london Road end is small terraces and ugly council flats. The west end is reasonably large 50's and earlier semis and detached stone houses. London Road is in the process of picking itself up. It's ugly to look at, but has some great restaurants (I recommend Froggies).

It's also handy for Ecclesall Rd and Sharrow Vale Lane, which is the trendy area of town with lots of independent clothes shops and restaurants.

I've never had a problem walking through there at night. Rarely see another soul in fact. Though this can lead to a vulnerable feeling.

HTH.

Originally posted by nomme
Have a look at this :

http://www.upmystreet.com/overview/?l1=s11

Nomme

A map pointing to the Brincliffe/ Greystones area does not constitute a helpful reference to someone wanting to look what Sharrow Lane is like, 2 miles down the road. Much better to give a full postcode on Sharrow lane, such as this one (http://www.upmystreet.com/overview/?l1=S11+8AN) so that the person wanting to find out about Sharrow can get a picture of how it is like, and not what the nice leafy suburbs are like a couple of miles up the road. My opinion? Avoid Sharrow like the plague.

Originally posted by t020
My opinion? Avoid Sharrow like the plague.

I wouldn't go that far - I'd just say, just like anywhere, be careful at night. Sharrow lane itself is fine, to be honest. Yes, it may be a little run down, yes, there are council flats, but it's not that bad.

Originally posted by t020
A map pointing to the Brincliffe/ Greystones area does not constitute a helpful reference to someone wanting to look what Sharrow Lane is like, 2 miles down the road. Much better to give a full postcode on Sharrow lane, such as this one (http://www.upmystreet.com/overview/?l1=S11+8AN) so that the person wanting to find out about Sharrow can get a picture of how it is like, and not what the nice leafy suburbs are like a couple of miles up the road. My opinion? Avoid Sharrow like the plague.

Leafy suburbs they maybe but it's still S11 as is Sharrow. Also, if you think Sharrow is that bad I'm surprised you ever venture out of Ecclessall at all.

Nomme

IMO Sharrow's pretty run down. I wouldn't want to live there myself. As for walking around at night, I regularly walk around in Sheffield sometimes in the early hours of the morning, and I've never had any trouble.

I'm a bit biased here because I used to run the tuxedoblue pub on Sharrow Lane which is now shut down. I referred to this in my first post, but didn't want to elaborate - it's been mentioned in a previous post. I lived above the pub for 18 months and we left due to the gangs of youths who would hang around outside the pub putting customers off, dealing and using drugs quite openly, damaging the pub and the cars around it (including my own) and the police offered little support. We had, in those 18 months, a rape in our car park, numerous muggings outside the pub, a police raid looking for drugs planted by customers (nothing found), tw arson attacks, a burglary, we saw cars having missiles thrown at them on Sharrow Lane, grafitti inside and outside the pub - lots, not just a little, uspset customers because their flats had been burgled.....get the picture?

I'm at the Classic Rock Bar now which is still S11, but isn't Sharrow. It's across the dual carriageway at the bottom of the hill, and we've never had anywhere near as much bother as we had up in Sharrow Lane. As with all pubs you get some pond life wandering in, but 99% of our customers now love the place and want to have a good time. At tuxedoblue 99% were wannabe gangsters.

You do get law abiding citizens in Sharrow, but it generally is very run down and scruffy looking. Nether Edge just around the corner is far better, expensive houses and trees - nothing like that on Sharrow Lane.

I wouldn't wander the streets at night, and am reluctant by day on Sharrow Lane.

I've got some friends who live in the flats next to what used to be Tuxedo Blue. There is a drug problem in the flats, and one of my friends has had a beating there (for complex reasons I'm not about to divulge here).
But, 99% of the time it's fine - I often go to visit at night and leave my car on the road outside. I've never had any problems whatsoever.
Outside of those flats, I'm not aware of any other parts of Sharrow that are bad at all.

To imply that the majority of Sharrow's residents are not law-abiding and that Sharrow is unsafe to walk around in the daytime is a gross over-reaction and a misrepresentation of the area.

Is it? I'm expressing my experience of the area. That's what I have witnessed. I couldn't wait to leave. I can only post my experience, and if that's different to yours then so be it. I don't believe I'm exaggerating as that's what happened to me so that's how I see it.

Well, it's a bit like saying, for example, the whole of Woodseats is a terrible area just because the Big Tree gets a lot of wannabe gangsters in it, or you shouldn't walk on London Road in the daytime because some of the pubs are rough after dark.

The question of the thread is about Sharrow Lane. I lived on it for almost two years. I think I have suitable experience and qualifications to respond as I have. Speak to anyone on Sharrow Lane and I'm sure you'll get a similar response.

Speak to the local policeman, he was injured by a burglar while he tried to stop a robbery on Sharrow Lane, speak to the owner of Pops who closed down due to the shoplifters and hassle he got - he had the shop next to tuxedoblue, he's up at Nether Edge now. Shall I go on?

I'm not tarring all of Sharrow with a bad brush - Sharrow Community Forum on London Road do an excellent job every year with their Festival and local arts projects, London Road has some fine restaurants and pubs.....but the question asked about Sharrow Lane. That road has a different tale to tell.

Fairy Snuff - it's just your earlier post ("You do get law abiding citizens in Sharrow, but") seemed to imply that all of Sharrow was dodgy.
I've lived at four or five Sharrow addresses and it's always been fine. Well, apart from the mad family I lived next to on Clubgarden Road. Hmmm.

BTW Pops has been in Nether Edge for at least the last 15 years, and burglary in Nether Edge isn't a pretty picture either.

I had a chat with Mr Pops up at Nether Edge the other week and he just shook his head sadly when we asked him about his shop.

Our local policeman told us before we left that he'd try to stop any other tenants taking on the tux, he wanted to see it bulldozed!

I heard rumours about the Washington Rd flats coming down at some point, no idea what happened to that rumour....?

!Oh Dear! it looks as if I have opened up a can of worms here.

Rock - Sounds like my area with the exception that the people deal with illegal ciggerettes instead.

It looks as if everyone is divided as to whether this place is good or bad which probably goes to show that every area has its good and bad points. Down here, living in islington, you get the same problem. The N7 section is good whilst the N1 section is bad. But if you asked the PM aka Tony Blair who lived in the latter prior to leading the country he would say that islington is crime ridden as he was burgled two times when he lived here as well as his sister who was burgled four times. Crime is everywhere I guess - one of the sad factors of life only except you dont want to have to endure it whilst on Holiday, but I have been to trouble spots before and (fingers and toes crossed) survived.

I'm not really into pubs or chippys as I want to lose the belly before the New Year so if there is a good fresh food shop nearby and a health one, then that should be okay.

Apparently, I have already put down my deposit with the flat rental people, so it is too late to back out, by the way does anyone know of a Hotel called Charnwood? on this lane plus is it true that Sheffield is quieter and more greener than Leeds?.

Thanks to everyone anywhere for responding to my mail and sending links.

I would say that Sheffield is definatly quieter, in terms of crime, than Leeds and also far greener. I know the Charnwood Hotel as I work nearby.

I have worked in the Sharrow area for 5 years now and have only felt threatened a couple of times. Mainly it has been drunks or smack heads that have made comments to me that have made me feel a little uncomfortable but I guess you encounter these people anywhere. Having said that I would not like to live there.

Sharrow has a mainly asian population but , London Road which is just off Sharrow Lane, is becoming a real "China Town" with chinese/noodle and Japanese restaurants opening up all the time which is really great.

Originally posted by saradunk
!Oh Dear! it looks as if I have opened up a can of worms here.
...snip...
is it true that Sheffield is quieter and more greener than Leeds?.


Now there's a can of worms that's looking fit to burst :thumbsup:

Steelblade - Isn't there a CArribean restaurant at the corner of London road or something - or so my research tells me. According to it, it's big and popular. I'm a fan of Chinese food too, so thats good.

tombeharrel - I heard my cousin (who lives in Leeds) say that Sheffield is more quieter. I suppose she meant its more of a town than a city.

Yes, the Charnwood is on Sharrow Lane, at the junction of London Rd, it does not represent the rest of Sharrow Lane....very posh.

For fitness, go up Sharrow Lane to the lights (with London Rd behind you) turn right and drop down the hill.....Greens Gym is there.

Drop even further down to the dual carriageway (Ecclesall Rd), turn right and the Classic Rock Bar is on your left. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by saradunk
Steelblade - Isn't there a CArribean restaurant at the corner of London road or something - or so my research tells me. According to it, it's big and popular. I'm a fan of Chinese food too, so thats good.



Yes the Mango Tree, but it is closed down at the moment.

According to local rumours, the old Mango Tree is to be a Japanese restaurant.

As a student living on Ecclesall Road which connects with sharrow at the hunters bar island, i have never felt terribly comfortable walking down that road. The only times i have walked there is when going to some sheff utd matches as bramall lane as sharrow vale road practically leads straight there. There's often police community officers based around some of the estates there.

Originally posted by nomme
Leafy suburbs they maybe but it's still S11 as is Sharrow. Also, if you think Sharrow is that bad I'm surprised you ever venture out of Ecclessall at all.

Nomme

Its not helping someone who wants to find out about Sharrow by providing them with a link which has info in general on S11, which is one of Sheffields bigger postal code areas, much of which is very nice. Your link pointed to one of the nicer parts, whereas Sharrow is a hellhole; and yes I do think it is that bad, because it IS.

Sharrow = hellhole ?!?!?!

T020, either you have led a very sheltered life, or you are taking the **** :)

Originally posted by t020
Its not helping someone who wants to find out about Sharrow by providing them with a link which has info in general on S11, which is one of Sheffields bigger postal code areas, much of which is very nice. Your link pointed to one of the nicer parts, whereas Sharrow is a hellhole; and yes I do think it is that bad, because it IS.

Check the thread title T020.

Nomme

Supposedly the old Mango Tree is becoming an Indian restaurant - I only know that as someone I know was offered a job there last week as chef.

hmmmm I wonder then, it's a mystery. Most people I have spoken to have said Japanese.

Perhaps I'll be cheeky and ask one of the builders the next time I pass. Then again, I don't want to encourage them to talk to me :P

Well don't know if the guy who asked her was being serious, it was a taxi driver and he probably had delusions of himself being rich or something :)

Originally posted by nomme
Check the thread title T020.

Nomme

Yes: Sharrow in Sheffield 11. Whats your point? He/she didn't ask for Brincliffe in Sheffield 11, so why provide a link to info relating vaguely to S11, why not put in that extra bit of effort to find a postcode on Sharrow Lane to give a more accurate depiction of the specific area of S11 that was requested in the very title you point out.

why are people being so down on sharrow lane? :confused:

i don't live there at the moment, but a lot of my friends do, so i'm in the area quite a lot in the evenings and this is mostly in the dark - it's never bothered me and i've never felt worried about being on my own.

so it's not the nicest area of the city, but there's a lot going for it, IMHO.

Oh yeah, I remember that pub, they played live music, had an open mic. It was ok there but I stopped going out after mi mate Johnny passed away.

Man, he loved music, jamming everywhere. But yeah, I remember the pub. Sharrow is ok but I admit Classic Rock is right, quiet a of the guys hang aroung waiting someome. Just don't go walk out there at night. Same with anywhere else but there are quiet a lot of good people there but JOhnny, none can top that guy.

Cool dude. Left us with awesome memories.

the best thing about sharrow road is the riley's just off it :D

Originally posted by theHook
Oh yeah, I remember that pub, they played live music, had an open mic. It was ok there but I stopped going out after mi mate Johnny passed away.

Man, he loved music, jamming everywhere. But yeah, I remember the pub. Sharrow is ok but I admit Classic Rock is right, quiet a of the guys hang aroung waiting someome. Just don't go walk out there at night. Same with anywhere else but there are quiet a lot of good people there but JOhnny, none can top that guy.

Cool dude. Left us with awesome memories.

Yes, I remember Johnny, his picture is at the end of the bar down at Classic Rock. He was a regular (and occasional barman) at Tuxedoblue when we ran it. You ought to pop down on a Monday night, many of the guys who played with Johnny come down.

I lived on Club Garden Road, just off Sharrow Lane (Tuxedo Blue was actually on the corner) for a year. I really liked the area. I came and went at all times of day and night without any trouble. One thing I did notice was that there was often a burnt out car at the end of the road, and once a mentally disturbed man wanted to talk to me in Safeway car park at 2am, but apart from that it was fine. Oh, somebody tried to break in once and failed - but that can happen anywhere. I certainly never felt threatened or vulnerable, and the location was very convenient for London Road and town.

I think the best way to get a feel for it is to go and have a walk around. It is scruffy - but in quite a cool way. I don't think it's dangerous (although I fully appreciate the problems you might have trying to operate a pub there). Personally, I really liked it.

Originally posted by Classic Rock
I had a chat with Mr Pops up at Nether Edge the other week and he just shook his head sadly when we asked him about his shop.
Pop of Pop's supermarket in Nether Edge is dead I understand, so I doubt you spoke to him particularly recently. There is a little 'in memoriam' to him in the shop. Nice Guy - RIP.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Pop of Pop's supermarket in Nether Edge is dead I understand, so I doubt you spoke to him particularly recently. There is a little 'in memoriam' to him in the shop. Nice Guy - RIP.

Oh right, I didn't realise.....I spoke to the old guy that worked at both sites that seemed to be in charge.

i wouldn't like to comment on living on the road but i once had a firework fired straight at me on my motorcycle just outside the shut down pub. the "youths" (who looked about 18 or 19 and should know better) just stood and laughed as i fought to avoid being blown up! i got the distinct feeling it wasn't just a childhood prank.....

Yup, and if it wasn't fireworks it was glasses from the pub.....sometimes it would be rocks or stones. One week I went through 48 glasses just because the 'young people' would buy a drink and take it out to the steps of the pub and after drinking it, simply throw the glass at cars.

We couldn't stop them. We even bought plastic glasses for those going outside, but they were thrown too. We tried stopping glasses from going outside, but that was a battle on its own.

November was silly season for fireworks in the road. Giant rockets were often seen shooting up along Sharrow Lane. Luckily we never had any let off in the pub....although one of the nice young gentlemen did set fire to our toilets and another set fire to the bandit.

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i used to walk reguarly from clarkehouse road to abbeydale road via hunters bar and sharrow road and I think sharrow in general is a pretty area. Some parts such as the Kenwood roads are really nice. I have to say I did feel a bit vulnerable once I got to Sharrow Lane and London Road but I don't think its nearly as bad as what I'm used to when I lived in London. I think there is a difference in housing quality and crime levels between hunters bar/sharrowvale road and sharrow road/london road. I'm sure there are nice parts of Sharrow Road but there is a noticeable difference from hunters bar which made me feel slightly uncomfortable when walking through to london road.

My ex-girlfriend and me once walked naked from Clubgarden Road to Cowlishaw Road (I was a lot younger then!). We weren't beaten, raped or otherwise hassled apart from good natured beeping of horns, etc.

Says it all really.

Try that in some places and you wouldn't get very far.

I grew up in sharrow in the 1970's. Loved it. it was fantastic!

Then the council decided the old terraces (built 1866) were "slums", just because they didn't have internal bathrooms and loos. (how primitive!" she said in her best lady bracknell voice!) So the rotters demolished them, and scattered the community to the four winds.

it was safe, it was a fantastic area, real sense of community. the really, truly, old fashioned, "I remember when we werent afraid to leave our doors unlocked" atmosphere.

when I married in the early 90's, we got our first house in Sharrow again. the area was still great... hell of a lot of noise on band night from the Cross Guns, which was opposite our place..... but, feh! It happens. you live near a pub, you have to expect some noise.

Still felt a safe place to live, neighbours were lovely, wasn't afraid to walk around here.

The only Pity was, that the landlord was such a so-and so, wecouldn't get the repairs done for love nor money. we were gassed by Carbon Monoxide, which has left me needing to rely on a wheelchair, with Neurological damage.

However, A few months ago, me and hub moved from another area within sheffield back to sharrow. The top end. what's the area like now?

well

there are still trees at the top end of sharrow lane (!)

it's quiet, where we are,

the neighbours are great.

now have a landlord who will actually do the repairs,

I can sit and watch squirrels romping on my fence, and a cheeky little robin who visits my garden.

We hear hardly anything from the traffic, (and we are on the main road) even the other day when there was the bus crash on cemetery road, and all the traffic was diverted via sharrow lane, we heard absoutely nowt untoward.

the two tenant and resident groups in the area are very good. as are the other people who are also being proactive in the district to make changes, socially and environmentally.

Theres a lot of good going on in this district. folk round here have a hert for the positive.

I still feel safe walking <----scratch that:- wheeling around the district. the only place I don't feel that safe, is that horrid underpass by the bottom of the moor....

I think that there are much worse places to live in, even within sheffield. I am as happy as a sandboy here. it's a very positive place to live, with a lot of folk with social consciences, it's only the minority who are dragging the area down, and IMHO... if only the council and other landlords would start to impose stricter rules on their bad tenants and get them to straighten their acts up, it'd be even better.

Plain Talker

I was just wondering about Sharrow Lane, I have heard that it has a high crime rate, does anyone know of any inncidents that have happened recently??

I'm not sure that Sharrow Lane has a higher crime rate than other roads in the locality, but several months ago there was an incident in one of the shops near Mount Pleasant, when I believe a gun was used and someone was shot in the leg. Sometimes there are gangs of youths but although they make noise I don't think they do anything particularly criminal.

IMO, I feel alot safer down there since Tuxedo Blue has been closed down.

I live on Vincent Road which is just off Sharrow Lane. Thr crime rate is quite good I think in comparison to other inner city areas.

I live on Sharrow Lane......to be honest it's absolutely fine!

I moved from Vincent road 18 months ago, there tend to be a lot of burgalries in that area in my experience.

depends where abouts on sharrow lane. in my experience if your the london road side of the traffic lights then its not great.