It may be only August, but just around the corner in a matter of 6 weeks, our fair city will once again be swamped by throngs of new students (and returning students). The clubs and bars will be stocking up the bottles, the City will be gearing up to the mad-house that is freshers week........a time that is dreaded by many, and also eagerly awaited by many. A time when the roads are stuffed with student cars filled to the roof with students, suitcases and rucksacks, and confused 18 year olds wander the streets with upside down A to Z's asking the way to Ranmoor...buses fill up with rucksacks and students with £10 notes and no change...hordes of 18 yr olds discovering alcohol away from home for the first time take to West Street....and the whole area that is student land in all its glory becomes a mecca of activity and student tribal culture......(oh, and several million pounds worth of extra spending hits the streets.......good for some)

Not long to go.........only SIX weeks.......are you ready??? Are you prepared???

You forgot to add that the 52 bus after ten o'clock becomes known as the vomit comet :gag:

Reading between the lines, you dont like students do you?

Bless 'em, they keep the "entertainment" industry going in Sheffield.

Originally posted by RobT
Reading between the lines, you dont like students do you?


Like them, I bluddie have to live with one :D well for the next six weeks I do :clap: :clap: :clap:

Mmmmmmm.... Fresh Meat...

Originally posted by RobT
Reading between the lines, you dont like students do you?

..have to love em dont you......well, halls of residence just down the road at least...they make their presence well known in general.....FRESH MEAT FRESH MEAT I agree!!!!!!

Originally posted by nick2
Bless 'em, they keep the "entertainment" industry going in Sheffield.


They also keep both Universities going, and both combined are probably one of, if not THE biggest employer across Sheffield....many many thousands of jobs depend on students coming here.....tens of thousands even.....

You mean there will actually be some life in Sheffield again soon..... town is dead during the summer holidays!

welcome back !!- thats why new student flats are on the cards in the city .u won't be able to park your car soon, jeez forgot thats the councils policy already.

Originally posted by owdlad
You forgot to add that the 52 bus after ten o'clock becomes known as the vomit comet :gag:

And buying a pint with their debit cards.

And standing in groups of 3 or more in Somerfields in Broomhill discussing endlessly which particular brand of spaghetti sauce to buy

Can't wait for some friends to talk to!

Originally posted by alchresearch
And buying a pint with their debit cards.

That's just bloody annoying when it's 4 deep at the bar :)

Originally posted by alchresearch
And buying a pint with their debit cards.

do they really do that , and i bet its mummys card as well:P

I've got my eggs gently going off as we speak all ready for the stinky drivebys

The real mark of the über-student, though (which I used to see all the time when I worked at the Co-op in Crookes), is lads walking round the supermarket on the mobile to their mums, who are talking them through what to buy! Tee-hee! :D

Having been a student myself until last june, I kind of am looking forward to all the excitment again of a student population arriving....well sort of....NOTHING happens in Sheffield over the Summer........

Got to admit, I do like a few weeks of peace and quiet in the Summer.

But, I love seeing all the new kids arrive on Freshers week. They arrive in their new trendy clothes all fresh and full of excitement. See them every morning (for the first week) walking to their classes with their neat folders etc All the excitement of sharing with friends and shopping and cooking for themselves - it is quite entertaining listening to the small groups out shopping together and trying to decide what they need and what they should have for dinner...

Then, week by week, they get later and later, and fewer and fewer ... no shiney new folders ...

Originally posted by Hels


Then, week by week, they get later and later, and fewer and fewer ... no shiney new folders ...

and soon it's summer again! :clap:

I think a fly on the wall reality documentary would be good....freshers week in Sheffield.....make GREAT viewing.....Ive got a camcorder, anyone care to join me in this venture?

Originally posted by panda79
do they really do that , and i bet its mummys card as well:P


I really don't think its fair to tar all students with that brush. A lucky few have rich parents. I wouldn't complain if I had.

True...these days students are NOT super rich from upper class backgrounds.....its all changed.....its just parents help them out a bit at the start of term with a loan of the debit card.......all chip and pin these days so who ever checks what name is on the card???? Amazes me, I have lent my girlfriend my debit card so many times and she has bouight petrol on a chip and pin system and the staff NEVER look at the name on the card or even bother to check anything as long as the PIN works......

Originally posted by goldenfleece
True...these days students are NOT super rich from upper class backgrounds.....its all changed.....its just parents help them out a bit at the start of term with a loan of the debit card.......all chip and pin these days so who ever checks what name is on the card???? Amazes me, I have lent my girlfriend my debit card so many times and she has bouight petrol on a chip and pin system and the staff NEVER look at the name on the card or even bother to check anything as long as the PIN works......

I've got incredibly rich parents and I don't get anything, no debit card, no handouts, except for help with my rent, which from my understand pretty much every parent does! :loopy:

But I suppose it's teaching me to stand on my own two feet.

I cant wait to get back and be one of those annoying students. Although the thought of the queues at Tesco on Ecclesall are depressing but I see it is expanding now what a suprise Tescopoly strikes again!

Many, many years ago i used to have some dealings with the students attending the Sheffield poly and could often be found in the various halls of residence around Collegiate.
A lot of them although putting on a brave face when arriving and showing their room off to their parents, but then after mummy and daddy had gone it was very important for the welcoming groups to make their presense known going round knocking on doors and making sure that all the homesick ones had at least one friendly face to talk to. It can be a very rough transition for some of them and it wass worse for those who were in emergency accomadation and had to find their own bedsits or similar as if they'd left it that late they often found themselves stuck well away from the studenty area's or in some rreal flea-pits.
I wonder if it's changed all that much?

The University used to run a "working committee" known as STUDENT RECEPTION, who were responsible for meeting all new students arriving each year. They had pick up points at the bus and rail stations, and had hall welcoming sessions and stuff, and generally orientated all new students to Sheffield student life as smoothly as possible. It was ajoint venture with the Students Union and was a brilliant organization that any student could join, and entertain 6th formers on visits, offer overnight accommodation to potential students and give trips and tours of the University and Union etc. Unfortunately, cutbacks closed down the service some 3 years ago now, and as far as I know, freshers are not given any kind of student based orientation when they arrive....they have to go it alone and find it all out for themselves.

I also look forward to the students coming back here,they liven the place up and they also bring quite a lot of daddys money with them to spend in the local ecconomy;)

Originally posted by royjames
I also look forward to the students coming back here,they liven the place up and they also bring quite a lot of daddys money with them to spend in the local ecconomy;)

You guys make me so ANGRY. I'm working this summer and through term time to pay my rent and bills. Without MY hard earned money and the money of others like me 'your' city's economy would collapse. On my way home from an eight hour shift at work last week, I tripped over some guys shopping and he shouted "GET A JOB YOU ****ING STUDENT" as I was walking off.

I work hard, I keep my music down and I only vomit in toilets. I have a permit to park my car and I always get change for the bus. I'M not renovating sheffield's lovely period houses into student residences, no, that'd be my SHEFFIELD BORN landlord doing that.

Now that'll be half a lager with six straws, can I pay with my debit card please?

I also applaud your use of the term FRESH MEAT FRESH MEAT to describe the drunken eighteen year old girls that'll be turning up soon...

Nice.

lol hey take a chill pill woman,dont blame me because you got some abuse in the shops.
Christ I have said I enjoy them coming here,mind you with your attitude its no wonder some locals dont want you here.:confused: ;)

Originally posted by kathythebean
[B]You guys make me so ANGRY. I'm working this summer and through term time to pay my rent and bills. Without MY hard earned money and the money of others like me 'your' city's economy would collapse.


Interesting view, debate please... would Sheffield economy COLLAPSE without students???

with your attitude its no wonder some locals dont want you here.:confused: ;) [/B]

very true. This thread was NOT designed or started to SLAG OFF STUDENTS, but just to stimulate debate on the effect of students on the City as a whole, especially with the hugeannual influx every September. This is NOT a thread for students to come on and start COMPLAINING about Sheffield.....

Sorry roy. Pleased to know I have your support :)

Just remember that not everyone at uni is on 'daddys money'. If it seems like we have too much money for our own good, it is because the Student LOANS Company will lend you up to 3 grand a year. Most students leave uni with upwards of 10,000 pounds debt, most of which will have been spent in the local economy.

Also, you can get a barclaycard, egg card, capital one card, lloyds tsb credit card, hsbc card, debenhams card, top shop card, tescos credit card, etc etc.

Originally posted by goldenfleece
Interesting view, debate please... would Sheffield economy COLLAPSE without students???

Not sure if it would colapse but a lot of pubs/clubs/take away places would go under, especially in places like Ecclesall Road or Walkley/Crooks.

I don't think many students have come on critisising Sheffield, they seem to have only been defending themselves from the inevitable slurs about students.

Has it been suggested that students have too much money? I dont agree with that at all. The fact is students bring MILLIONS of pounds into Sheffield each year, many many MILLIONS as a collective body. That such a massive amount comes from such relatively small section of the total population gives rise to the 'students have too much money' concept.


I know how some students have to live. I've seen the inside of some student houses on London Road that would be better situated somewhere in a war zone. I think students appear to have more money than most average working citizens as they do, as most of the time they are perceived to be getting drunk and partying all the time, and dont have mortgages, families to support (in most cases), etc etc. This may once have been true, but these days students have to work to make ends meet.

Like every other University town, the PERCEPTION of students is something that may need to be addressed. Yoyr typical non student will have an image in their mind of a student lifestyle.....this is usually perpetuated throughout the non student population and gives a generic "view" of students which may be removed from reality.

Originally posted by goldenfleece
very true. This thread was NOT designed or started to SLAG OFF STUDENTS, but just to stimulate debate on the effect of students on the City as a whole, especially with the hugeannual influx every September. This is NOT a thread for students to come on and start COMPLAINING about Sheffield.....

Sorry gf think I'm a little touchy about it though. I wasn't complaining about sheffield, I love sheffield. I'm sick of being told I've got it easy when I see so many of my peers really really struggling.

I don't think the economy would collapse, necessarily, but like I said, 3,000 a year x 30,000 or so students = a giant wodge of money.

Hi kathy no probs,I know that quite a few students do indeed work for their lifestyle,my local shop has quite a few students working there.
I enjoy having them around the place,as a doorman I get to mingle with them at the weekends and I can honestly say they dont cause half the trouble the locals do.
Always welcome in my book.:thumbsup:

I think without all the students, the nightlife would disappear for good!!!:help:

(ok, slight exaggeration, but I am looking forward to getting out on the razz in September when there are a few more people about...)

Nightlife disappear for good? Well...no....but substantially dented. A lot of clubs would close which are targeting the student market......one or two BIG ones as well....ie take away ALL the club student nights across the City and what is left??? In term time, not much.......

I also think West Street/Division street circuit would suffer to some extent... a Sheffield economy without student revenue is going to look very shaky...

And as I thimnk I mentioned somewhere else, a Sheffield with no students would mean the loss of many many thousands of jobs, from Academic levels down to bar staff.....Sheffield would face the biggest unemployment boom ever without students....remember both universities combined must be the Citys largest employer between them.....

Originally posted by goldenfleece

I also think West Street/Division street circuit would suffer to some extent... a Sheffield economy without student revenue is going to look very shaky...

I agree, not least because one "poor student" I know spent over £200 on ONE PAIR of jeans in a shop on Division St this year (incidentally, they were hideous).

One guy I had the misfortune to live with whilst doing my BA was a total mummy's boy- he came away armed with Mummy and Daddy's Marks and Spencer card, on which he purchased Ready Meals for every night of the year, eaten on paper plates with plastic cutlery, because in all little Jonny's excitement about going away, he forgot to learn how to cook or wash up. He even used to send his underwear home to be washed for him, no joke! Of course, being such a precious little thing, he hardly dared venture out and boost the local economy (maybe Mummy wouldn't give him a credit card, just the M+S one?). I never knew people like this actually existed.

Most students I know though recognise the great privilege of being a student- this year I had a 5 day weekend during term time. I'm working full time this summer and not complaining about it (well I may rant about my colleagues, but I certainly don't feel hard done by). I also had a loan and help from my parents- I suspect many students, like myself, fall down on money management, not actually being unable to have money, through work or other means. (see story above re. jeans!) Soon, my 18 years in education will come to an end, and I will always remember fondly my last year as a student, spent in a very friendly and welcoming Sheffield.

I think that students make up an important part of Sheffield. Especially the nightlife, it goes dead when the students arent about. I WISH I was a student again. Those were the days :thumbsup:

I think that it is reasonable to assume that students make up a large part of the Sheffield econamy, I mean they all have to live and that means spending their hard borrowed cash. I think the pubs and clubs must rely on them heavily.

As for the FRESH MEAT part of the discussion.... yay, drunk 18yr old girls - my favourite :hihi:

I WISH I was a student again. Those were the days :thumbsup:


Its NEVER too late you know. I did it myself, belatedly, and completely enjoyed every second. In fact, I may well do it again one day, even though it costs a fortune in fees, or well soon cost far more when the Government gets its evil way.......

We should appreciate the amount of students our city attracts.

The benefits are endless - as described above.

What better way to promote the city than thousands (and thounsand) of students of all nationalities coming here from all over the globe.

I also think it's great that a high proportion of them stick around after graduation, which of course, does wonders for providing the skills needed to help the city thrive and prosper.

Students! ........ we welcome you with open arms

:wave:

Students! ........ we welcome you with open arms

:wave: [/B]


SOME LOVE 'EM...SOME HATE'EM.....like anything I guess.

Well the future of all our new student intake is in the balance at the moment, the A level results are published to the Universities by computer link on SUNDAY coming, and they will be deciding the fate of all applicants.

All A level students dont get official notice of their results until Thursday, so like last year, THURSDAY night in places like BROOMHILL are always full of 6th formers....some celebrating that sought after place at Oxford...and some having to come to terms with accepting their 3rd university choice or whatever....and some, er....well, no places at all, anywhere....the beer does flow on this one night of the year......

if you are looking for a quiet drink next thursday, dont bother....the 6th formers will be practicing for freshers weeks up and down the country......

Roll on September, and the return of loadsof mates :)

Went out both Thursday and last night and it was SO QUIET in the student areas like Broomhill and Hunters Bar. We certainly need an injection of many thousands of bodies to fill up these places......some of the pubs were like mortuaries....

roll on September......the countdown continues.......

this city would be so cr*p without student.

It has an appauling night life as it is imagine what the lack of students would do to it.

Most dj's I know round town came here to study and stayed. The Showroon Cinema would have to close. Most bars would close. The stupidly expensive division st shops would close.

What a horrible though not having students here is.

Yes they are loud in the week whereas locals are loud at the weekend. yes they are sometimes sick in the street (and on my housemates car :hihi: ) but so are locals.

I must remember to book freshers week off from work

Studes need sheffield and Sheffield needs studes. End of.

Originally posted by rogermoore
Studes need sheffield and Sheffield needs studes. End of.

Its true, as is the same for any major University City. Imagine Oxford or Cambridge with no Universities....they would simply become another bland and unimportant city and economically fall apart....


Here's a scenario, Sheffield loses its students, it might run something like this.

Sheffield Uni and Hallam Uni shut down. Loss of an estimated 5000 full-timejobs and around 3000 part-time jobs, academic staff, admin and clerical, technical staff, etc. Huge impact on local employment figures, like a major factory shutting down.Knock on effect to the corresponding economy, over 7000/8000 extra unemployed residents cease to spend their earnings in Sheffield, assuming the worst case that they dont all find jobs immediately, or leave the City for new jobs elsewhere. As a % of the working population not a great figure, but significant as Sheffields largest City centre employers cease to exist. (I think both Universities even employ more than the local Council and all its contracts and tenders)

30,000 students both full and part time cease to inhabit Sheffield. The many many millions of pounds of money generated both directly and indirectly by the student population stops. First casualties, night-clubs and student orientated bars, many closures within a few months. The subsequent massive fall off in entertainment venues and variety of bars has a further knock on effect to the local population and a reduction on local spending as a result. Sheffields night life reverts to that of a medium sized town, with perhaps 2 or 3 nightclubs surviving, and then mainly with weekends only 'local' generic Kingdom style nights. Major pub companies like Scream, etc, pull out of Sheffield as no student market to support them. Major clubs like Gatecrasher which are heavily student patronised also pull out of Sheffield, leaving the independants to survive.....if they can. Economic "collapse" following closure of Universities and loss of students forces many shops and student orientated businesses to the wall. More job losses....more cut backs in City centre spending....its a spiralling picture of total disintegration of this City. The loss of the "vibe" of the city has further knock on effects, suddently not a trendy place to live anymore, fall off in investment in City centre, collapse of the city living dream for young professionals who quit Sheffield as it loses its whole vibe.
Population further decreases over the next few years as no students to continue living in Sheffield anymore, and zero outside investment creates black hole of unemployment and a severe economic citywide depression. Knock on effects effect many other jobs, bus drivers, other shops and businesses, more bars closing when spending continues to fall, boarded up shops and totally dead-zone city centre........

Whoever commented earlier in this thread was right...I believe Sheffield WOULD fall apart without students...THEY ARE ITS LIFE'S BLOOD!!!

Yeah, people who bitch and whine about students all being chavs and scum of the Earth need to stfu and shurrup moaning.. :lol:

Also, no-ones yet mentioned the healthcare in Sheffield. A large number of services and equipment within Sheffield Teaching Hospitals Trust are heavily subsidised by the University.

and where do our doctors and nurses come from? the universities.

I love seeing new faces about Sheffield. I work in the centre and on certain times of certain days, you see the same faces walking up fargate.

I say bring the freshers on!! :D

esp at climax there will be new cute new faces and hopefully at least one of them is a decent genuine honest guy!!!

sheffield is very boring without students no vibe in town or around and its a very busy time for me and others where i work

Hi there i will be one of your "drunken 18 year olds (actually im 19!)" Come September! i know you wasn't slagging off students or anything. But can i just say Everyone isn't the mummys girl or boy! My mums litterally a millionaire and would give me all the money i wanted for uni. But i want to do it alone. I've got my student loan i've already got a job. I'm not living in hall's. My (perhaps to dedicated) boyfriend is moving with me we are renting a house and i will not be going out to get drunk every night i don't even drink! I am there for one reason and one reason only, to get my degree.
I've just read that back i t sounded like a rant but its not i know exactly what you all mean! I came to Sheffield last year to visit my friend no one sleep for 3 days (except with each other)!They just drank, and drank and drank....... ! And couldn't even afford to buy bread! Now bread or beer? I think i'd choose the bread! Obviously not!
I was telling my friend what i planned to do i.e do my work, live in my little house, have my part time(ish) job blah blah blah and she honestly believes that AS A STUDENT i can't do it! I have to go out everynight get drunk not go to lectures and sleep around!
Does anyone else agree with her?

Originally posted by Moving_Mel
Hi there i will be one of your "drunken 18 year olds (actually im 19!)" Come September! i know you wasn't slagging off students or anything. But can i just say Everyone isn't the mummys girl or boy! My mums litterally a millionaire and would give me all the money i wanted for uni. But i want to do it alone. I've got my student loan i've already got a job. I'm not living in hall's. My (perhaps to dedicated) boyfriend is moving with me we are renting a house and i will not be going out to get drunk every night i don't even drink! I am there for one reason and one reason only, to get my degree.
I've just read that back i t sounded like a rant but its not i know exactly what you all mean! I came to Sheffield last year to visit my friend no one sleep for 3 days (except with each other)!They just drank, and drank and drank....... ! And couldn't even afford to buy bread! Now bread or beer? I think i'd choose the bread! Obviously not!
I was telling my friend what i planned to do i.e do my work, live in my little house, have my part time(ish) job blah blah blah and she honestly believes that AS A STUDENT i can't do it! I have to go out everynight get drunk not go to lectures and sleep around!
Does anyone else agree with her?

You should be moving into halls, thats all part of the university expierence!!!!

Originally posted by scottf
You should be moving into halls, thats all part of the university expierence!!!!

Yup, had a fantastic time last year living in Halls. Own house now, living with my girlfriend but I honestly miss halls. You can't do uni without the halls experience.

Not everybody is like your friends Mel, we never really went out drinking every night, although we did watch a lot of films and I actually drink more now not being at uni, than I ever did there apart from occasional nights at juice which I always seemed to never get as drunk as everybody around me, despite how much I kept drinking (I never understood how i couldn't managed to get drunk on BOGOF on bottles of Budweiser!).

Everyone's said that even my mum but when i went to visit friends who live in halls it was made they fought over food no one did anything work wise theplace was a mess and no one went to lectures. I get lead astray easily i procrastionate (thats spelt wrong) like now i should be tyding up and putting the washer on but instead im here reading everyones throughts on a place where i don't even live yet!! If i lived in halls and someone said "we're going out fancy coming?" I'd go because it would be better than going to my lecture!
If i live with my boyfriend he'll be at work so it'll be a case of sit here on my own or go to lectures! And when he is there he'll make me go, he's already said "your not missing lectures, i'm not moving to theotherside of the country so you can not get your degree! blah blah blah! It'll be like livng with mum except i'll have to do stuff myself!!

i used to hate students. in fact my old band maniac had a song called "students f... off home!" it's still played sometimes on cd in the corporation.

now i'm older and wiser and realise that at least students won't rob you or try to sell you drugs.

in fact they're more likely to want to buy them off you, whether you sell them or not!

keep on rockin'...

I admire your focus and determination Moving_Mel, but as a student who has experienced halls etc I really think are missing out. Whether this is a choice you'll regret I have no idea, but you will miss out on so many opportunities. Making a new set of friend is the obvious one, but there are so many other smaller things that will stick with me forever but you will never experience. You form a unique bond with the people you live with in your first year. Course mates are great but they live elsewhere with other people. It is also possible to live in halls and attend university regularly.

Originally posted by liveforever
I admire your focus and determination Moving_Mel, but as a student who has experienced halls etc I really think are missing out. Whether this is a choice you regret I have no idea, but you will miss out on so many oppurtunities. Making a new set of friend is the obvious one, but there are so many other smaller things that will stick with me forever but you will never experience. You form a unique bond with the people you live with in your first year. Course mates are great but they live elsewhere with other people. It is also possible to live in halls and attend university regularly.

I agree with liveforever, Mel!
Your first year in Halls is a once-in-a-lifetime experience not to be missed! I have a couple of friends who went to Uni at the same time as me & didn't live in Halls & their whole university experience was so bland in comparison (this is just based on people I know, I dont want 2 generalise or upset anyone who disagrees!)

Personally I think the friends you make at University are the best friends you'll have for your whole life, and if you don't completely throw yourself into the whole experience, you won't get as much out.

Anyway, they pretty much expect you not to do any work in First Year so don't worry!

Its true about halls.......I know a couple who joined Uni in 1995, lived as a group in Ranmoor Hall, made a whole new Universe of close friends and loved it so much they actualy paid out to remain in the same hall for the full 3 years......actually quite a feat!!!

The HALL experience is a total joy OR a total nightmare. It depends on how socialble you are and what sort of life you have led up to the point of its inception. You meet HUNDREDS of new people on DAY ONE.......you can either shun it, or REVEL in it. I know which I would do.......

Less than six weeks now to the freshers week mania....LOOKING FORWARD TO SHEFFIELD HAVING SOME LIFE!!!!

I wonder at the general majority 'sub culture' of this years student intake. It varies greatly from year to year. In the last few years the overall % of "alternative" students has been increasing, while in the early part of the 21st century, students were going more "normal" or "trendy". I put my money on a big increase in the number of "alternative" type students this year, ie those who do NOT like chavvy wine bars or cheesey 80's disco's.

18 yr olds generally reflect what was BIG in cultural terms some 4 years previously, dont ask me why it just appears to be that way. For example the big increase in dance music culture/sub-culture of the middle 90's which was noticeable resulted in a simarlarly biased student population of the late 90's. So the big increase in alternative sub cultures and rock music (nu-rock) of 2001 theoretically SHOULD be reflected in a very alternative student base of freshers this year.....I see a lot of black, lots of chains, plenty of metal T shirts and an explosion of student 'rock chicks'.

WATCH THIS THREAD UNFOLD.......

Hurrah for the Rock Chicks!!!

Originally posted by goldenfleece
Its NEVER too late you know. I did it myself, belatedly, and completely enjoyed every second. In fact, I may well do it again one day, even though it costs a fortune in fees, or well soon cost far more when the Government gets its evil way.......

I did think about going back to uni but worked out that it would be too expensive. It was ok when the student loans company was throwing money at me left right and centre (buggers) but now id have to work through it - im not aversed to this idea but i just dont think that i would enjoy it. Besides I would be doing it purely for the experience and not the degree as ive come to the conclusion that in the 'real' working world, degrees are in fact useless!

Originally posted by mr_chris
Hurrah for the Rock Chicks!!!

seconded

Suggest the newer freshers thread is merged with this one??

s
o
r
r
y

m
i
s
t
a
k
e

Originally posted by goldenfleece
I wonder at the general majority 'sub culture' of this years student intake. It varies greatly from year to year. In the last few years the overall % of "alternative" students has been increasing, while in the early part of the 21st century, students were going more "normal" or "trendy". I put my money on a big increase in the number of "alternative" type students this year, ie those who do NOT like chavvy wine bars or cheesey 80's disco's.

18 yr olds generally reflect what was BIG in cultural terms some 4 years previously, dont ask me why it just appears to be that way. For example the big increase in dance music culture/sub-culture of the middle 90's which was noticeable resulted in a simarlarly biased student population of the late 90's. So the big increase in alternative sub cultures and rock music (nu-rock) of 2001 theoretically SHOULD be reflected in a very alternative student base of freshers this year.....I see a lot of black, lots of chains, plenty of metal T shirts and an explosion of student 'rock chicks'.

WATCH THIS THREAD UNFOLD.......

I dont see this.

This "alternative" you talk about is the mainstream. And I know you elude to this, but I really feel listening to nu-rock is akin to what you talk about with the dance culture in the 90's.

Anyone coming to uni who is "altrenative" will shy away from such stuff as its basically what EVERY teenage kid is listening too. The same as anyone alternative of any culture of music steers away from what is the most popular.

Why? Because it is base, it is generic, it's watered down, it has become market driven, in essence, it's music they're as likely to hear in their bedrooms or the 6th forms or their clubs as they are in their Mum's and Dad's car stereos.

As always you will get a trend, but also, as always you will get people into diverse genres, and more interestingly, people who get into diverse genres and discover new music they can really get into.

I've just read my post back and I think I argue with myself and agree with you, sorry.

Anyway.

can't wait to be honest at least there will be some life back in sheffield

Originally posted by pete_fcs
i used to hate students. in fact my old band maniac had a song called "students f... off home!" it's still played sometimes on cd in the corporation.

now i'm older and wiser and realise that at least students won't rob you or try to sell you drugs.

in fact they're more likely to want to buy them off you, whether you sell them or not!

keep on rockin'...

i do hate somestudent's but most are ok if you are oreight with them.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by boyface
I've just read my post back and I think I argue with myself and agree with you, sorry.

Anyway.

Never mind, I get what you are driving at....interesting alternative point of view.....

Originally posted by dixy
i do hate somestudent's but most are ok if you are oreight with them.:thumbsup:

Yes thats true, EXCEPT when they are so drunk they cant see the end of their own face and dont care who they argue or try and pick a fight with.......

I have seen some interesting lessons in 'student behaviour' in certain City centre clubs, whereby the 20 pints of lagered up male student who thinks he is "it" attempts to pick up some local 'bruisers' girlfriend....and then gets a crash course in pain and ends up in casualty.

Maybe we have all done that in the past when inebriated....I think I tried that once in the LIMIT way way back circa 1987 and attempted, after many many pints of lager, against the advice of all my friends at the time, to pull this "total goddess", who turns out to have a 8ft tall violently inclined large tattoed boyfriend standing nearby who enjoyed re-fitting faces.....ouch..


Oh, the good old days??????

SEPTEMBER IS HERE.......but I have not seen any students yet.........2nd and 3rd years coming back already?

A week on Saturday is FRESHERS WEEK kick off....ARE YOU READY SHEFFIELD??????


LIFTED FROM OTHER STUDENT THREAD
"jealous of getting leathered in the week, sleeping in and not going to lectures, playing on my decks at student house parties and being surrounded by loads of lasses all day."

Is anyone suggesting this is in fact any different to normal non student life?

Quite looking forward to some young innocent students at the corp :bigsmile:

Originally posted by RobT
Quite looking forward to some young innocent students at the corp :bigsmile:

And the Leadmill....and ....and....oh a few other places...