Know any good dog trainers. We need quite a strict trainer, not just focusing on the commands- more obedience, and respect. Thanks

I've heard that Nike do a good range for humans, but not sure if they are available for paws!

I only know of one dog trainer over here at Millhouses, if you don't get much feedback from other forum users I could get a name for you if required. Please be aware though that dog trainers will not take on all types of dog so I hope you haven't got a beagle, a bassett or an Akita.

erm we sort of have a beagle, its a manchester terrier cross, is the trainer you mean the police one?

there was a thread about this, not that long ago, it can only have been a few weeks ago. (and incidentally, the millhouses based trainer was detailed then!)

didn't your "seach the site for smilar topics" option work?

PT

Hmmm...tricky one is that I guess....what about the (in)famous Mr Miyagi? He certainly helped Daniel - San learn a thing or two, or maybe the legendary Pai Mei? Watchers of Kill Bill Vol 2 should know what I mean.

Your dog should then be a loyal servant I reckon!

Alternatively go to the Manor and ask any Pit Bull owners..

didn't your "seach the site for smilar topics" option work? -PT


Yes i did, but no proper replys- mostly drifted of the subject hence posting it again.

Originally posted by marmite
erm we sort of have a beagle, its a manchester terrier cross, is the trainer you mean the police one?

Hi Marmite :wave:

I don't know whether you've noticed, but I have a beagle :rolleyes: who goes to a training class. Many people have told me you can't let one off a lead, but last week mine was complimented as being 'the best trained dog I've seen' by a dalmation breeder (just before the urge to say 'hello' to a new recruit overwhelmed him, and he ran off :hihi: )

Would you like to bring your dog to our class? It's not so much regimented, as helps you to understand the psychology of your dog. I can assure you that the terrier/beagle temperament is going to make the job hard, but it'll be worth it.

Our class was taken by the police guy when ours was off having pups for a few weeks. He pointed at Brude and informed the class that he would be untrainable, then ignored us for the duration. He lavished all his attention on a rottweiller that had taken his eye :mad: We all paid our money, but we didn't all get help :rant:

I'm guessing the Millhouses trainer mentioned will be Katie Patimore. We saw her with one of our dogs, I found her to be really good. She does one to ones, which is what we did at the time and she also runs classes.

Her detail's are: Millhouses Dog Training
39, Banner Cross Rd, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 9HQ
0114 296 2271

That's the person, I know a few dog walkers/owners in Millhouses park have had dealings with her and she's been around for a while so as I said she must be getting something right.
Marmite thanks for the pm, he sounds a character though I'd like to bet that's not what you refer to him as. Gardens can be made escape proof though that may mean you'll have to crawl around on hands and knees viewing it from his perspective . Male dogs can be wanderers and it may be worth your while considering depriving him of his 'doggyhood' which can sometimes cure this part of a dogs behaviour.

We took our Border Collie to a lady in that area of Sheffield for advice because he was very highly strung and had not been socialised as he was farm bred.
After a twenty minute assessment the lady informed us that he should be put down or given to her friend who would use him as a stud dog.
We took him to a dog training class in Rotherham and at the end of the training period he came top of the class and turned out to be the most good natured and well behaved dog you could meet.
Take a look in the local free papers and you should be able to find a class locally there is one in the Attercliffe area but I don't know further details.
Good luck!

Wow thanks guys for all the help. I'll maybe try Katie Patmoor but fellow dog walkers tell me she gets bored with dogs that find it harder to learn. Well Strix if your beagle can do it, il try damn hard to make our dog, hes injured at the moment though- bleeding glass in the park!!! thanks again.
plz keep posting

I would try Katie Patmore as she gets results even if I did feel a bit like a naughty 5 year old. Both dogs one arrival at her house were barking and jumping up, they didn't settle for more than about 30 seconds at a time. She talked to us for a fair old while looked at the problems we had and gave us a set of exercises. When we returned 8 weeks later the dogs settled imediately, and stayed like that the whole time, to be honest it was a miracle. Using her methods we can now have people visit us at home when before it was a disaster unless one of us minded the dogs upstairs or we put them in the car!!

It may be worth a phone call to the RSPCA branch in Sheffield. I've popped in there before and I'm sure they have dog trainers that they recommend.

Originally posted by bigflesh
I've heard that Nike do a good range for humans, but not sure if they are available for paws!

haahaa- ace :D :D

I have a disobediant x border collie/lurcher and although is very clever he cannot be let of the lead in parks as he chases young children on bikes/scate boards. I know this doesnt sound too bad but he likes to nip them when hes caught up and it doesnt go down very well. To be honest hes had me in tears before now as I then have to catch him and reprimand him. Ive even been threatened by a jogger asking for money because hes jumped up at him causing him to have dirt on his clothes

:( He is really lovable but is a true lurcher and chases everything. Does anyone know who to stop this.......

chop his legs off!!!;)

Originally posted by msbehavin
chop his legs off!!!;)

No although i have often thought of this as a solution.... I dont really like little dogs I find them a little snappy like their owners..... lol!!!:D

Originally posted by marmite
hes injured at the moment though
That's okay. You'll probably want to bring him to watch for the first week anyway, just to get used to the atmosphere and so many dogs in one space.

I know somebody who had one to one training, but because the dog wasn't used to being round other dogs it found them a distraction and still shot off in the park! Different things suit different dogs though, so you may need to see a couple of trainers before you find the right one :thumbsup:

Originally posted by technophobe
:( He is really lovable but is a true lurcher and chases everything. Does anyone know who to stop this.......

There isn't enough space here.

Training is something that has to be constant for a young dog. People like to be able to turn dogs on and off like battery operated toys, but it just won't happen.

It's hard work, but is rewarding once you've achieved your goal of a well behaved dog. He needs to learn that what you say always goes. Start at home with this theory, and work outwards.

Rewards work better than rebukes. If food is refused as a reward, I found skipping a meal before training helped. Don't rant at a dog - 'NO' is effective on it's own.

Don't loose patience, and don't turn it off, and you'll wind up with a dog you can relax with (hopefully)

i take my 2 dogs to wadsley church dog training club every one is very friendly trainers and the people that go if you are interseted its on monday nights 7 pm u can just turn up and watch then if your interseted speak to ann or steve

Thanx Strix... unfortunately I do blame myself. He can do every trick in the book and has a really wide vocabulary but I havent trained him to do anything worthwhile apart from fetching the post (with holes).

He does understand No and I always let him come back without hitting him then keep a stern voice so he knows hes done wrong.

The only time hes defiant is when hes about to chase or chasing something or someone.

I took him in the cemetary a couple of months ago and out of no where came a motorbike going around 40 miles per hour. Needless to say it ended up my dog hitting it and the bloke having a real go. He had no insurance and I carried my dog home to clean him up.... hes ok now but not learnt from his 'close call' he absolutely hates motorbikes now but still trys to chase them.

I have considered one of those collars which have a spray on them which is remote controlled. Apparently when you press a button it releases an awful smell which distracts them. Only I think this is cruel and costs around £200.

:confused:

A really good dog behaviourist/trainer is Katie Patmore, her details are:

Millhouses Dog Training
39, Banner Cross Rd, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 9HQ
0114 296 2271

We took our german shepherd to her puppy training classes which we excellent, but she also deals with problem dogs of any age.

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by technophobe
I have considered one of those collars which have a spray on them which is remote controlled. Apparently when you press a button it releases an awful smell which distracts them. Only I think this is cruel and costs around £200.

Yeah, I got to my wits end at one point and looked on the internet for a solution. Having seen these, I decided I just needed to work harder to persuade my dog I was in charge.

He needs to look up to you as his leader and seek your approval constantly. This hasn't been easy with an obstinate and dominant beagle, but it's surprising what they read as indications of status.

We began a psychological battle which included:
No people food
No climbing on furniture
Lots of 3mins worth of instruction and part of food ration as reward
Waiting to walk through doors second
Walking to heel, rebukes for stepping ahead (stop and wait for dog to return)
No pulling on the lead

I'm sure there's more, but it all centered on his perception of circumstances, so your list may be slightly different.

Brude's not perfect and we both forget the rules sometimes, but he's much easier to live with now. (He's lying on the couch next to me now, but he understands it's only by consent, not by right ;) )

Like strix has said he needs to know you are the leader.

Try using NILF - Nothing in life is free

Which is basically a lot of what Strix says. More information can be found here: http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm

Originally posted by technophobe
I have a disobediant x border collie/lurcher ...

He is really lovable but is a true lurcher and chases everything. Does anyone know who to stop this.......

Attach a washing line to his collar as an 'emergency brake'. This should give you enough leeway to stamp on it if he runs off!

As you get better control over him, you can shorten the 'lead'

Originally posted by marmite
Know any good dog trainers. We need quite a strict trainer, not just focusing on the commands- more obedience, and respect. Thanks

I don't know of any classes as I can't get to them, I tried a one on one trainer but after paying out £70, being talked down to like I was a 2 year old who'd been abusing my dog, instead of caring enough about her to seek help, I found the advice was totally unsuitable for my situation as well.

But with you mentioning respect and obedience I thought you might be interested in a book I bought to help my highly strung border collie settle down.

It's called The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell and the main theme throughout is teaching you how to behave and react to situations so your dog knows you are capable enough to be trusted with their complete care and they learn to respect you and obedience follows pretty swiftly. There are 4 basic rules to follow and then there are chapters that deal with specific problems in more depth.

It's not been a quick fix but my dog has responded to the techniques really well, steadily improved over the months to a point I never thought we'd reach.

Might be worth borrowing one of her books from the library just to see if you'd get along with it before forking out the money for a book to keep. If you do get on with it, I recommend getting a copy to keep, I found it Really easy to slip back into old habits and having the book on hand helps me to keep on top of it.

Hope you find something suitable.

I have a Lakeland terrier as well as 2 other dogs. He is a total lunatic. If he was human he would be in an institution. Some dogs respond well to training- others dont.

Originally posted by Nimrod
I have a Lakeland terrier as well as 2 other dogs. He is a total lunatic. If he was human he would be in an institution. Some dogs respond well to training- others dont.

They're like people. You just need to find exactly what pushes the right buttons for them.....

.... unless you own a Chow :rolleyes:

i have two staffies X english bulls and with stella we have been going to wadsley bridge dog tranning school since she was a pup (she is now 3yr old) and last august stella had a litter of puppies and we ended up keeping one of them, and calling him Dillan.

now at tranning stella is ready for doing her gold citizenship award which has took nearly 3yrs to get somewhere with her so see can do it, but on the other hand Dillan is now 10 Months Old and is also going to try and do his gold citizenship,

it just proves that if you put the time and effort in you will and can get somewhere!

but i would really recomend wadsley dog obedience the trainers are all loverley people and can help in most cases

Best of luck on the gold citizenship.

Can I ask what training methods Wadsley Bridge use please? I wouldn't want to take a dog to a club that used choke chains or other punishments.

Incidentally, I'd highly recommend a book called The Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson to anyone who is interested in training or who has a 'problem' dog.

She is highly respected by most dog behaviourists and her reward based training methods are based on how dogs actually learn, not on dubious 'he's trying to be alpha' theories.

We are already in control of every resource that is important to a dog for heaven's sake. If they go through the door first, they are not trying to usurp us, they're just in a hurry to get through the door!

Works a treat as you learn how to get your dog to do what you want without a power struggle. Very important if your dog is highly strung and prone to aggression.

wadsley bridge use all sorts of different traning methods it all depends on the owners perference really with my dogs i use like a collar with a similar thing to a choke chain. alot of people use the nose halties depending on what breed of dog they own.

i can assure you know no dog would ever be put in a position of which it could be harmed.

can i ask what type of dog you own?

I've always found the command "good dog, do what you like" has a 100% success rate.

hello. when the dog is being disobedient, try using a roled up newspaper quite often and tap it on the nose. they really dont like newspapers. they will take a very hard slap on the bum but when it comes to a newspaper they s*** themselves. mine did anyway. i learnt them that way. is the dog a male and is it a pup?

Hiya Strix, you mentioned that you take your dog to classes but not (unless i missed it) where the classes are?

I'm in Woodhouse and have an 11months old Golden Retriever, he's a pretty good dog and I have trained him a little but I think I need some extra help. Could you let me have the details of the classes you go to please?

Thanks

Hels

PM sent Hels :thumbsup:

Originally posted by janny
hello. when the dog is being disobedient, try using a roled up newspaper quite often and tap it on the nose. they really dont like newspapers. they will take a very hard slap on the bum but when it comes to a newspaper they s*** themselves. mine did anyway. i learnt them that way. is the dog a male and is it a pup?

No reputable trainer would ever advocate directing violence toward the dog to train it. Crikey!

You train a dog by working on its pack instinct, and its inherent desire to please its human pack leader/ it's love for you.

If you join a good dog club, such as Millhouses Dog Training Club,, which Katie Patmore runs, they will teach you what you need to know/ do to have a well behaved, well socialised dog.

PT

Hi Vikki Thanks for the info. It sounds like a good class.

My dog's a beardie (x?) but unfortunately he's a rescue with severe behavioural problems that I'm still working through so he's not suitable for group classes yet. He has seen a couple of very good behaviourists (Katie Patmore refused to see him) and he absolutely loves clicker training so we're getting there.

It was actually my sister's rescue saluki lurcher that I was looking for a training class for. She's a typical saluki but reward based training does seem to work for her at home. It's always more fun to learn as part of a group though isn't it?

it doesnt hurt them to show them the paper and give them a little tap. some dogs just dont learn and need that i think, i have two male dogs of my own and being a woman they seemed to think they was in charge, someone told me to use newspaper and say no in a deap tone and it worked, they know now. its not like im wacking them all over with it, its just a tap. just like people tap their childrens hand when they are doin wrong to let them know, or is that just me i wonder?

i dont know what the crikey was for at the end of your sentence, i didnt say give the dog a good beating and then it will learn.

Hi Everyone

Does anyone know of anyone in Sheffield that holds dog training and obedience classes? If so please PM me with their details.

If anyone out there specifically does the training do you know what age he can start? Hes currently 8 weeks old.

Thanks
Loops

Originally posted by Loops
Hi Everyone

Does anyone know of anyone in Sheffield that holds dog training and obedience classes? If so please PM me with their details.

If anyone out there specifically does the training do you know what age he can start? Hes currently 8 weeks old.

Thanks
Loops

best pm'in strix as she has gone tonight with another forummer to show her the class she take brude too. :D :thumbsup:

A really good dog behaviourist/trainer is Katie Patmore, her details are:

Millhouses Dog Training
39, Banner Cross Rd, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 9HQ
0114 296 2271

We took our german shepherd to the Millhouses Dog Training puppy training classes at Bradway our instructors name was Jayne and she was really excellent. Your puppy has to have had all of his/her vaccinations before he/she can attend though.
Hope this helps.

South Yorkshire Dog Training Club is held on a Tuesday evening at 7pm, St Timothy's Church Hall, Slinn Street, Crookes, S10. The classes are for any age of dog and teach owners how to train their dogs basic pet obedience. There is a small weekly charge towards the hall hire fee. There are no classes in August due to summer holidays but they start again at the beginning of September.
A contact number for further information is 0114 2349656 (office hours)

hope this is helpful!

Originally posted by savbaby
best pm'in strix as she has gone tonight with another forummer to show her the class she take brude too. :D :thumbsup:
It's a great class, but it's a bit of a trek :(

If you live the Crystal Peaks side of town it's do-able :thumbsup:

not sure if this has alraedy been suggested - I followed a van last night with a commercial for a business called "people and dogs" training and obedience classes. sorry didn't get the number but I think it was local.

Originally posted by POB1
South Yorkshire Dog Training Club is held on a Tuesday evening at 7pm, St Timothy's Church Hall, Slinn Street, Crookes, S10.

I went there with my dog and I learnt so much about training dogs from June, who runs the class. It's very informal and if you are an observant student you can pick up a lot more than she appears to be teaching!

:clap:

hi i would ask joffandannum i think she would know

Originally posted by commuter
not sure if this has alraedy been suggested - I followed a van last night with a commercial for a business called "people and dogs" training and obedience classes. sorry didn't get the number but I think it was local.

That will probably be Victoria Cooper. Her contact details can be found on the APDT website.

I've had prob dogs before....you got to take time out and see why the naughty behaviour....is it attention seeking.
If it is, ignore him put him in a room on his own and only reward for good behaviour.

If he needs dominating, sounds daft but you have to mount them, until they become submissive.
You have to point out that YOU are the BOSS! not the dog.

Is it a destructive streak, separation thing and the dog goes bullistic and wrecks everything if left alone?
Then pretend to go out & return after a few mins, reward him if he's not done anything, keep doing this but make the seperation times longer, he will soon realise that you DO come back and settle.

The list is endless, but all basically Wolf behaviour, you must be the Alpha...and you can't be soft.:) Beadles are lazy, terriers are chasers n ratters, a hard combination but patience will be rewarded.

Originally posted by bigredbox
If he needs dominating, sounds daft but you have to mount them, until they become submissive.
That sounds like a good way to get bitten

Originally posted by bigredbox
Beadles are lazy, terriers are chasers n ratters, a hard combination but patience will be rewarded.
I'm assuming that's a typo for 'beagle', but you'll find they are only lazy if they are over fed and fat :suspect:

No strix,

Not saying you should just jump on your dog with no warning, incorporate it with play fighting.

I had a GSD, over bred I think, he tried it on with the teenage upstart, can I get away with murder routine and he was put bang right on who was the boss. This worked for him but of course all dogs are different, they really do need understanding

Very gently, in play, no force or nastiness involved.
Another one was, to bare your teeth and suck in air, just like a bitch does to pups when she's teaches them....like back off I want my space.
This also works, cos they understand through body language that your not pleased, they're only mission in life is to please they're owner and they hate it if they've displeased you in anyway.

All dogs are lovely, just so long as they are fed/excersised and taught in the manner that suits them. Happy dogs = happy owners!

Better just add, there was no offence meant to Beagles either!

How can you stereo type a dog? They are all brill but each have they're own character and have different needs.
Mine would act daft but you could see his brain working overtime, making plans on his next act of defiance, only to be shot down in flames, cos I knew him so well and was on his case before he started.

A loyal, beautiful, faithful companion, he had his issues but we sorted them out together as best mates should.

four pages all on my thread, im touched, thanks alot! ..i wonder if Jak is reading this...

Originally posted by bigredbox
they're only mission in life is to please they're owner and they hate it if they've displeased you in anyway.

If only that were true :rolleyes:

Originally posted by bigredbox
How can you stereo type a dog? They are all brill but each have they're own character and have different needs.
Mine would act daft but you could see his brain working overtime, making plans on his next act of defiance, only to be shot down in flames, cos I knew him so well and was on his case before he started.

A loyal, beautiful, faithful companion, he had his issues but we sorted them out together as best mates should.

Ah, now if I didn't know better, I'd have thought I'd written that - about Brude of course ;)

A really good dog behaviourist/trainer is Katie Patmore, her details are:

Millhouses Dog Training
39, Banner Cross Rd, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 9HQ
0114 296 2271

We took our german shepherd to the Millhouses Dog Training puppy training classes at Bradway our instructors name was Jayne and she was really excellent. Your puppy has to have had all of his/her vaccinations before he/she can attend though.
Hope this helps.


Hi there, just seen your post, we have GSD puppy and I wondered if the behaviourist was just one or if it was clasess also. thanks for your post. Sara x