or do you consider yourself to be English, N.Irish, Welsh or Scottish?

english, male, working class, ex punk :)

Politically and for reasons of form filling, I am British, but my flesh, blood and bones are English. As for my outlook and approach to life, well...

Do we get Cornish as an option?

I consider myself to be both Scottish and British, and that is what I am.

I've never had any problems seeing myself as both - there really isn't any sort of conflict.

English people seem to find this concept of 'dual-nationality' a lot harder to get to grips with.

StarSparkle

I always complete forms, which require a statement of nationality, by writing "UK citizen" - as it states on my passport that I am a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Although I was born in England, I regard myself as British.

Originally posted by redrobbo
I am a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain .

Aren't we subjects of the royal family?

Originally posted by Skatiechik
Do we get Cornish as an option?

cornish arent british they are aliens

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
Aren't we subjects of the royal family?

im not :)

Originally posted by StarSparkle
I consider myself to be both Scottish and British, and that is what I am.

I've never had any problems seeing myself as both - there really isn't any sort of conflict.

English people seem to find this concept of 'dual-nationality' a lot harder to get to grips with.

StarSparkle

I would have thought that it would have been the other way round with Celtic nations being more likely to call themselves Scottis/Welsh etc as Britain is normally a contruct which benefits the English more than others.

Originally posted by melthebell
cornish arent british they are aliens

only when they speak :D

I guess I count myself as a Sheffielder, a Yorkshireman, English, British and European, depending on how tightly you want to define "where you were born", technically I'm all of them.

Originally posted by nick2
I guess I count myself as a Sheffielder, a Yorkshireman, English, British and European, depending on how tightly you want to define "where you were born", technically I'm all of them.

well yes, if you want to view it like that.

im also proud to be a sheffielder by birth.....and a yorkshireman

place of birth in sheffield im not so sure about tho.....i was born in darnall but i think i count myself as a woodhouser actually cos thats where i spent the most years that i can remember

The reality is that we all have multiple identities. This only becomes an issue when there is a challenge to one or more of these, or when we are forced to choose between them. First and foremost I'm a Baggies supporter.

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
Aren't we subjects of the royal family?

Not me. I unilaterally opted out of that nonsense years ago.

I've re-checked my passport, which was issued in Bulgaria, and it clearly states "British citizen" under nationality.

bulgaria?
baggies supporter?




GET OUT!!!!!!!




:P

I'm Irish - real Irish not the wanabee Brits in the north...

Irish first
European second
Catholic third
Human fourth

true brit - only go for the english route when the jocks & paddy's start supporting foreign football teams in preference to england.
gets my goat.

perhaps we should have a GB football team, at least both the decent players form scotland & ireland will get to play with 9 oher quality players.

Originally posted by robbie
I would have thought that it would have been the other way round with Celtic nations being more likely to call themselves Scottis/Welsh etc as Britain is normally a contruct which benefits the English more than others.

When I lived in Edinburgh, I'd have called myself Scottish first and foremost, but was still completely British too. I didn't ever (knowingly) come across a fellow Scot who thought differently to this. As I said there's no conflict there at all. Although people may feel a bit different now, with a greater desire generally for Scottish Independence.

Talking for me and my friends, we regarded ourselves as Scots for everyday purposes, but had no trouble in regarding ourselves as British in international terms. We were fiercely proud to be Scottish, but were also proud to be part of the bigger concept of Britain. It's like our own, personal identity was essentially Celtic, but we also gained in the wider world from Britain's international stature.

No downside really.

I don't think the concept of Britishness benefits one home nation more than another - I think we all mutually benefit. The way Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland came together to form the United Kingdom is an example to the world of how different ethnic groups can co-exist and flourish in mutually beneficial co-operation.

StarSparkle, aka Pollyanna

Originally posted by willman
true brit - only go for the english route when the jocks & paddy's start supporting foreign football teams in preference to england.
gets my goat.

perhaps we should have a GB football team, at least both the decent players form scotland & ireland will get to play with 9 oher quality players.

Decent players from Scotland? Can't think of any at the moment. Managers yes, players no.

With Ireland its the reverse. One or two decent players (notably Duff) but no great managers (and yes, i have considered O'Leary).

You can't claim Damian for a GB team - he's Irish not Northern...

From the NI side you'd get .......
From Scotland you'd get .......
From Wales you'd get .....Ryan Giggs

Not much point then really eh?

Originally posted by StarSparkle
When I lived in Edinburgh, I'd have called myself Scottish first and foremost, but was still completely British too. I didn't ever (knowingly) come across a fellow Scot who thought differently to this. As I said there's no conflict there at all. Although people may feel a bit different now, with a greater desire generally for Scottish Independence.

Talking for me and my friends, we regarded ourselves as Scots for everyday purposes, but had no trouble in regarding ourselves as British in international terms. We were fiercely proud to be Scottish, but were also proud to be part of the bigger concept of Britain. It's like our own, personal identity was essentially Celtic, but we also gained in the wider world from Britain's international stature.

No downside really.

I don't think the concept of Britishness benefits one home nation more than another - I think we all mutually benefit. The way Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland came together to form the United Kingdom is an example to the world of how different ethnic groups can co-exist and flourish in mutually beneficial co-operation.

StarSparkle, aka Pollyanna

Excellent post from you, Starsparkle, as usual. I think the concept of Britishness works well for people identifying with the four home nations, because each has its homeland. In fact, the idea of Britishness is so deeply engrained that nobody seriously questions the national composition of the government (e.g. the current Labour cabinet has a disporoptionate number of people of Scottish origin in it - but very few people think this is strange and even fewer object to it). What in my view need to happen if we are to become a cohesive nation at peace with its self is to do more to promote this concept of Britishness amongst more recent immigrants - as America does already.

I thinks it's rather nice to differentiate between Eniglish, Irish, Scottish and Welsh, because although we all co-exhist happily (most of the time), each race is also unique with it's own customs, history and traditions, and diversity makes life interesting.

I think I'm definitely more aware of being English now I live in Scotland, and it's nice to be a bit different. Everyone in my circle of friends up here is Scottish, so I think they appreciate the diversity a Yorkshire lass can bring to the mix (or at least they enjoy my Yorkshire puddings and confusing demands for bread cakes!). For my part I'm really enjoying finding out more about Scottish culture.

Differences are fun - not something to be afraid of.

However, I have no problem referring to myself as British either, because I think the culture of all four host nations, and our long-stay immigrants of various races, has helped to make the UK what it is today.

So in order I'm a Sheffielder, Yorkshire Lass, English, British.

Personally, I'm from

Britain
England
Europe
Yorkshire

in no particular order (well, it was alphabetical order actually ;) ).

:)







Thought this was an odd statement though:
Originally posted by Internetowl
I'm Irish - real Irish not the wanabee Brits in the north...

Irish first
European second
Catholic third
Human fourth
an interesting quote, from someone who chooses to live in England.

:suspect:

The Irish are often fiercely patriotic. I have a friend who swears her nationality is Irish, even though she was born and brought up in Manchester. Her parents are Irish, but she's never been based there herself.

My passport says i'm British, therefore I am!

I am British and proud of it.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by LordChaverly
Decent players from Scotland? Can't think of any at the moment. Managers yes, players no.

With Ireland its the reverse. One or two decent players (notably Duff) but no great managers (and yes, i have considered O'Leary).

Barry Ferguson would be a useful option if Gerard or Lampard got injured.

In fact he'd probably be able to play at the head of the midfield diamond favoured by Sven.

Gerard sitting behind Becks and Lampard with Ferguson in front.....to start with. They can pretty much all do each others job though*



*with the exception of Golden balls.

Originally posted by JBee
...I have a friend who swears her nationality is Irish, even though she was born and brought up in Manchester...
Well then, surely she (and some others) are "wanabee Irish" then...

...unlike those in both the north, and south of Ireland that actually live there.

:suspect:

English.......but cheer on the other home countries when we get knocked out!!

Yorkshire, English

English and damned proud of it. But that's only as long as we are not involved in sports cos we are pretty rubbish at them.

Dragon

My mates say im weirdish so i put none of the above

I'm a Sheffielder by birth, but am also a quarter Irish and a quarter Scottish.

With my Mom's maiden name being McKay, I can't deny my Scottish ancestry. Incidentally, with black hair and green eyes, I can't deny my colouring is Black-Irish either.

I wouldn't want to deny either; I'm happy to be classed a a Heinz 57! :D

K x