when the rescues are over-run with them? Well, we know the answer don't we? Cash machines. I despair.

Easy money, so they think. Don't care who picks up the tab at the other end as long as it aint them

I just don't understand how there can be that many people that think they are worth the £100+ price tag they have on them!

more in the pound.....i dont like staffies but i hate to see any animal in a pound etc, some people shouldnt be allowed to keep animals.

i never bred arthur in 14 years cos i didnt want to add to the problem, even though hundreds of people over the years said how cute (haha hes ugly as hell) and would have one of his pups....

Unfortunatly it's turned into a breed of dog for stupid people.

There are far too many stupid people breeding and now the same stupid people are breeding dogs at the same rate!

Unfortunatly it's turned into a breed of dog for stupid people.

There are far too many stupid people breeding and now the same stupid people are breeding dogs at the same rate!

i would go as far as that, i hate staffies, but i wouldnt say all the owers i know who have then are stupid...most yes but not all.

i like DSH and dobermans, pretty intelligent dogs, just like me ;-)

i have a staff i had him done at 6 months hes now 4 this was for a few reasons 1, i didnt want to add to an already overbred bread 2, i thought it may help his agression issues 3,i didnt want ideots 2 steal him for breeding. since i had him done iv had 5+ ppl ask if they can use him as ther stud and 1 realy stupid man telling me he was his bitch that got stollen a few days b4 due to the absence of any dangalie parts lol

Because they're idiots. My best friend talks about breeding her staffy no matter how many times I tell her about the whole overpopulation thing and that there's so many in rescue centres. Plus her staff doesn't exactly have a good temperament either.

Somebody near me their staffy has just had 11 puppies....

It makes me despair.....

I love all bull breeds and have a soft spot for staffies

Their down fall is that they are prolific breeders and often do have easy births and large litters - leaving them a little gold mine for the idots that are still breeding them.

Sheffield Council kennels are at bursting point. They have no more kennels to keep stuffing in the dogs that people have thrown away - more than half of those dogs will be staffies or staffie crosses. It breaks my heart as most will be just fine lovely dogs - as i know it breaks up the staff who work at the kennels to think that these dogs may have to be put to sleep - to make room for more dumped dogs over xmas.

There just isn't enough room and enough homes for them. Nobody wants them. Personally i love em - but they are hard work, and its not easy to have more than a couple of them - unlike the lurcher lot - who can often squeeze in another one sometimes. these guys dont.

For all those who think they can earn a few quid breeding a litter - go and look at the eyes of the pups you have bred - 1 year on. I'm sure they will be happy to see you. But then, its preaching to the educated on this site i know

It makes me very very sad and i don't know what the answer is - I just wish that the big rescue centres would be highlighting the probem more - to make people aware. joe public doesn't even know they are in crisis with the breed.

over 70 a week are being put down at battasea im lead to believe

i know its heartbreaking, i was perusing preloved/gumtree the othere day, sooo many staffie pups i couldnt believe it, mind you neither could i believe the amount of money ppl want for crossbred dogs, pugs x westies 350, cockapoo what the hell is a cocker poo and how can you justify charging anything for it, ooh i know lets grab 2 dogs, cross them, give a completely daft name and oooh look joe public goes mad for them!! what is going on??? and then of course there aare all the no paper full pedigree dogs, gawd dont get me started, the soap box cant take the weight, then ill start harping on about norway/sweden and how no-one is allowed to own a pet without completing a resposibility course first agghh someone stop me!!!

I have immense sympathy and support for rescues who are currently inundated with staffies. But following a discussion i had on another pet site i visit regarding breeding - i have one thing to - Why shouldn't they?
They are prolific breeders, they seem to be the target of younger owner who loose interest easily,they're cheap to buy.
But if some numpty can breed mongrels and con people into paying 100's of pounds then we should all have the same rights. A cockerpoo or chug will go into a rescue as a mongrel not a "designer" dog.
Which type of dogs are more prolific - mongrels or staffies.

Easy money, so they think. Don't care who picks up the tab at the other end as long as it aint them

Thats the same with most(not all) breeders in my experience -regardless of what their website claims.

I'm not talking about professional breeders - although obviously I have an opinion about them!! A forumer recently posted her 8 week old pup, her prize for allowing her Staffie to breed and is now going balistic blaming the rehoming rules for lack of interest in her pup. Well, welcome to the real world of Staffies, over-breeding, over-population and 'over-thickness' of owners. Anyone who visits the pound, seeing the vehicles pull up, Staffies jumping out wagging their tails and then .... well we know the rest .... can only despair. I hope this little 8 week old pup doesn't end up in the hands of yet another irresponsible dog owner, or worse.

I'm not talking about professional breeders - although obviously I have an opinion about them!! A forumer recently posted her 8 week old pup, her prize for allowing her Staffie to breed and is now going balistic blaming the rehoming rules for lack of interest in her pup. Well, welcome to the real world of Staffies, over-breeding, over-population and 'over-thickness' of owners. Anyone who visits the pound, seeing the vehicles pull up, Staffies jumping out wagging their tails and then .... well we know the rest .... can only despair. I hope this little 8 week old pup doesn't end up in the hands of yet another irresponsible dog owner, or worse.

i agree, wanting to rehome it at xmas, and then has the cheek to say a dog is for life blah blah.
i must have made a impression on em, cos yesterday i get a pm calling me a bell end lol

Thats the same with most(not all) breeders in my experience -regardless of what their website claims.

I've experienced both sides of the fence and IMO there are a few good and honest folk out there, but can agree not all are what they seem

I've experienced both sides of the fence and IMO there are a few good and honest folk out there, but can agree not all are what they seem

I agree totally P.

i know its heartbreaking, i was perusing preloved/gumtree the othere day, sooo many staffie pups i couldnt believe it, mind you neither could i believe the amount of money ppl want for crossbred dogs, pugs x westies 350, cockapoo what the hell is a cocker poo and how can you justify charging anything for it, ooh i know lets grab 2 dogs, cross them, give a completely daft name and oooh look joe public goes mad for them!! what is going on??? and then of course there aare all the no paper full pedigree dogs, gawd dont get me started, the soap box cant take the weight, then ill start harping on about norway/sweden and how no-one is allowed to own a pet without completing a resposibility course first agghh someone stop me!!!

Agree with you totally. Look at RSPCA at the mo - fully of staffy/staffy x's. Not a breed I am keen on at all, but sad all the same.
Had to laugh at the cockerpoo! At one time there would have been hell to pay when 2 breeds 'got together'. There are some ridiculous x breeding programmes on and sometines these 'designer' dogs cost more than the breed itself. Worst I have seen recently were Chugs (Chihuaha x Pug) at - wait for this - £1500 each.

Had to laugh at the cockerpoo! .

Its not even a cocker poo. When you mix breeds isnt the name made up of the first half of one breed and the second half of the other. So what they actually have is a cockerdoodle. :hihi:

Unfortunatly it's turned into a breed of dog for stupid people.

There are far too many stupid people breeding and now the same stupid people are breeding dogs at the same rate!

I resent that remark :rant:, not all staffy owners are stupid , i own a staffy he's 2 years old , and part of the family and before you say "NO", i have never breed him and never will besides he ain't got his bits any more, Please don't tar us all with the same brush .:roll:

Went down to the dog pound this morning, loads of staffy crosses, it's depressing.

I had this agruement with a girl at work Her heinz 57 (alot of staffy in her). Has just had a second litter!! She doesnt think its a problem as shes found homes for them all but as far as i can tell she palmed them off on her neighbours.

She really couldnt understand why i was so annoyed as I got by pedigree dog from a breeder. The difference is my breeder bred to meet a working demand,my breeder will take back my pup should it ever need to be rehomed and my dog isnt an overbred breed with a saturated market.

How many of her dogs are going to end up at a rescue centre in a few months becauses she not home checked anyone? And if these new owners really wanted a dog they'd have prob ended up rescuing one from the pound/rescue centres if she hadnt provided them with one. It annoys me that she cant see that whats shes doing is wrong. Why on earth doesnt she get the poor dog neutered or keep it in doors/one a lead whilest its in season?

Sadly - Haddock, Lou and myself went to the pound today. Now I am normally pretty tough as i see so much heartache - but to be honest - it got to me.

So many gorgeous gorgeous dogs - that we just can't seem to find people to take them into their homes. The little cuties will get adopted and hopefully live with a nice family but the medium staffies - and especially the lovely big staffie boys - sadly they draw a certain type.

One of the red ones cowered as we went near to him - but he was desperate for people - just didn't want to be hit. A medium sized black one - was SO good - and they said he wasn't any trouble at all - just sat in his box waiting.....

Its not the decent staffy breeders that are to blame for this epidemic. They don't know what to do any more than the rest of the population BUT they have to take ownership for it and sort the problem out. The kennel club should be using some of the money that they (steal) sorry take from breeders to register puppies and use it to educate. Raise awareness of the thousands that are being destroyed and that are needlessly bred year upon year. Its THEIR responsibilities. Not the charities and rescues that have to mop up after the mess.

It breaks me up to think of them all around the country - when greedy ignorant people keep on churning out more and more and more.

Sadly - Haddock, Lou and myself went to the pound today. Now I am normally pretty tough as i see so much heartache - but to be honest - it got to me.

So many gorgeous gorgeous dogs - that we just can't seem to find people to take them into their homes. The little cuties will get adopted and hopefully live with a nice family but the medium staffies - and especially the lovely big staffie boys - sadly they draw a certain type.

One of the red ones cowered as we went near to him - but he was desperate for people - just didn't want to be hit. A medium sized black one - was SO good - and they said he wasn't any trouble at all - just sat in his box waiting.....

Its not the decent staffy breeders that are to blame for this epidemic. They don't know what to do any more than the rest of the population BUT they have to take ownership for it and sort the problem out. The kennel club should be using some of the money that they (steal) sorry take from breeders to register puppies and use it to educate. Raise awareness of the thousands that are being destroyed and that are needlessly bred year upon year. Its THEIR responsibilities. Not the charities and rescues that have to mop up after the mess.

It breaks me up to think of them all around the country - when greedy ignorant people keep on churning out more and more and more.
i felt exactly the same when i went down yesterday, walked away with a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes

give the tax man their address, they will soon think twice about breeding for a quick buck!! these people dont care about animals, just what gains they can reap from them, theyre sick.

another dog i am seinf a lot of recetly all bloody puppies teenagers have em round s5, mastiffs, them dog debordo (shocking spelling but have no idea howe to spell it) they seam to be the new status dog now

shocking isnt it, we had the dobie craze, then the staffie craze, now its mastiff, i want a big dog to look 'well ard' not tarring anyone with that brush being a pound staffy owner; crossbreed owner; and now mastiff x (and yes we think with a staff, but of course, why not!!!) owner, god i'm so glad i didnt get to go on, id have taken the big red home with me for sure, a bit of love and kindness, 3 weeks hed be a different boy, ruby still cowers mind, you only have to wave your hand, she hits the floor and wees. drives me demented, God let me win the lottery so i can buy a smallholding and take in some more dogs!!

I wonder what we could do to raise the awareness locally to stop people and make them think about the problem with over population of staffies - before they breed a litter.

Any litter prevented would be one worth the effort.

when i drove them to dogs from sheffield further south the other week, the pounds seemed full of em...and lots of others too, all sorts, dackels, labs, rotties etc etc. such a shame and not a nice sight

Uneducated people who are ignorant and dont care, they live in their own little world and unfortunatly macho dogs appeal to them. The situation is going to get worse if you look at the big cities in the UK.
Staffies are fantastic dogs.