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mluther746
21-11-2009, 08:10
Hi to all
I am planning to buy new laptop.But confused little which system to buy.So please share your experience so i can get some ideas.which one is better..?

PrincessKate
21-11-2009, 08:26
windows 7 :) by far

Justin Smith
21-11-2009, 08:49
Hi to all
I am planning to buy new laptop.But confused little which system to buy.So please share your experience so i can get some ideas.which one is better..?

I don`t know much about Windows 7, but Vista is crap, XP was far better.

Someone told me that Windows 7 is more like XP than Vista, therefore, if that`s true, Windows 7 would be better.

Big Boy
21-11-2009, 12:06
Im using windows 7 and its fly's. Vista was like wading through treacle half the time.
7 is by far the better os.

[Matt]
21-11-2009, 12:12
Go for a windows 7 laptop. Windows 7 is far less of a resource hog and also uses a little less battery power as a result.

knighthawk
21-11-2009, 12:12
Windows 7....vista was a disaster story way way too many problems with it

[Matt]
21-11-2009, 12:17
I don`t know much about Windows 7, but Vista is crap, XP was far better.

Someone told me that Windows 7 is more like XP than Vista, therefore, if that`s true, Windows 7 would be better.In truth windows 7 is actually rather Windows Vista 1.1 as its own internal windows version number throughout the beta's was actually windows 6.XXX just like vista is. From a comparison between the two there really isnt much of a difference other than windows 7 being a far more efficient and user friendly experience...

Justin Smith
21-11-2009, 12:28
;5659968']In truth windows 7 is actually rather Windows Vista 1.1 as its own internal windows version number throughout the beta's was actually windows 6.XXX just like vista is. From a comparison between the two there really isnt much of a difference other than windows 7 being a far more efficient and user friendly experience...


Right I stand corrected, computers aren`t my area of expertise !

I`d get a PC with XP on it.
That`s what I wish I`d done now, though I might have had to pay a bit more for my PC and bought it from, say, Very PC and then load my own copy of XP onto it. That would have got round the supplier (Coles in my case) saying I couldn`t load XP onto it without voiding the warranty.
I can`t over emphasise how much I prefer XP over Vista, esp when it comes to ease of copying and moving files etc.
Having to relearn how to use a load of functions is a frustrating waste of time.......

Ghozer
21-11-2009, 13:24
Right I stand corrected, computers aren`t my area of expertise !

I`d get a PC with XP on it.
That`s what I wish I`d done now, though I might have had to pay a bit more for my PC and bought it from, say, Very PC and then load my own copy of XP onto it. That would have got round the supplier (Coles in my case) saying I couldn`t load XP onto it without voiding the warranty.
I can`t over emphasise how much I prefer XP over Vista, esp when it comes to ease of copying and moving files etc.
Having to relearn how to use a load of functions is a frustrating waste of time.......

Vista is exactly the same in terms of copying/moving files etc.. several ways of doing it, right click copy/paste, or drag and drop...

there's not MUCH front end-wise that differs from XP, other than the control panel, and the location of a few things, most things operate the same just have a little more info, or look slightly different. I think alot of the Vista hate is people jumping on the band wagon and joining in.. I never had an issue with Vista, but since installing Windows 7 I have had several freezes and a few random blue screens...

plekhanov
21-11-2009, 13:56
I really prefer windows 7, can't say if it runs any faster than vista as the pcs I've got them on a very different but 7's interface is much nicer to work with.

Justin Smith
21-11-2009, 14:13
Vista is exactly the same in terms of copying/moving files etc.. several ways of doing it, right click copy/paste, or drag and drop...

there's not MUCH front end-wise that differs from XP, other than the control panel, and the location of a few things, most things operate the same just have a little more info, or look slightly different. I think alot of the Vista hate is people jumping on the band wagon and joining in.. I never had an issue with Vista, but since installing Windows 7 I have had several freezes and a few random blue screens...

You are right to say that getting used to a new system is part of the problem, but why should I ? I didn`t ask the bleeders to change anything. Why should I have to waste my time getting stressed and frustrated ?
I`m sick of people beedin` changing things all the time, most of the time it isn`t for the better anyway, it`s just to make more money for the company concerned.....

Having said all that XP is better for moving/copying because if you click on a file it brings up the "File and folder tasks" menu giving you the option to move or copy stuff to any file quickly and easily, none of this copy then open another folder and then paste it in etc etc.

Ghozer
21-11-2009, 15:51
You are right to say that getting used to a new system is part of the problem, but why should I ? I didn`t ask the bleeders to change anything. Why should I have to waste my time getting stressed and frustrated ?
I`m sick of people beedin` changing things all the time, most of the time it isn`t for the better anyway, it`s just to make more money for the company concerned.....

Having said all that XP is better for moving/copying because if you click on a file it brings up the "File and folder tasks" menu giving you the option to move or copy stuff to any file quickly and easily, none of this copy then open another folder and then paste it in etc etc.

Again, you can do that with vista.. and you can have it to NOT do that on XP, it's all personal preference, I prefer NOT to have the crappy annoying menu on the left and just much prefer a right click > copy to left click, moving all the way to the left, clicking there, then all the way back to the right...

Bloobell67
21-11-2009, 15:54
Hi I'm not an expert but I do have a new laptop with Windows 7 - my sister's laptop has Vista and I prefer Windows 7. As I say, I'm no expert but if it helps, where I work we have an Intranet site where everyone blogs and all the IT guys on there are voting for Windows 7? I took my info from them as they should know what they're talking about? Hope this helps!

get it qik
21-11-2009, 15:57
windows 7 miles better than vista
downfall i have had a few teething issues with w7 thou
super g dongle won,t update driver on w7
as driver disc is made for xp os
so i can,t use the dongle any more
webcam built in has a driver issue as says device working but it won,t come on
certain programs wont install as it says i don,t trust the software??
so w7 is not 100% in working order

Justin Smith
21-11-2009, 16:01
Again, you can do that with vista.. and you can have it to NOT do that on XP, it's all personal preference, I prefer NOT to have the crappy annoying menu on the left and just much prefer a right click > copy to left click, moving all the way to the left, clicking there, then all the way back to the right...


Are you saying you can have "Field and folder tasks" on Vista ?
If so how do you configure it ?
Better still, can I configure Vista to mimic XP in anything else as well ?

Ghozer
21-11-2009, 17:30
Are you saying you can have "Field and folder tasks" on Vista ?
If so how do you configure it ?
Better still, can I configure Vista to mimic XP in anything else as well ?

You can make Vista look just like XP (minus the things like MyComputer properties, control panel etc) - you can set Vista to use XP style Start menu/task bar, and explorer windows..

Justin Smith
21-11-2009, 17:46
You can make Vista look just like XP (minus the things like MyComputer properties, control panel etc) - you can set Vista to use XP style Start menu/task bar, and explorer windows..

How do I set up my laptop on Vista to resemble, as closely as possible, my work PCs which run XP ?

neeeeeeeeeek
21-11-2009, 17:56
Right I stand corrected, computers aren`t my area of expertise !

I`d get a PC with XP on it.
That`s what I wish I`d done now, though I might have had to pay a bit more for my PC and bought it from, say, Very PC and then load my own copy of XP onto it. That would have got round the supplier (Coles in my case) saying I couldn`t load XP onto it without voiding the warranty.
I can`t over emphasise how much I prefer XP over Vista, esp when it comes to ease of copying and moving files etc.
Having to relearn how to use a load of functions is a frustrating waste of time.......

Who the hell told you that changing the OS would void the warranty? I would ask them to clarify that if I was you!!!


XP or Windows 7. Try and avoid getting Vista unless you are entitled to a free Windows 7 upgrade,.

zongamin
21-11-2009, 17:58
Right I stand corrected, computers aren`t my area of expertise !

I`d get a PC with XP on it.
That`s what I wish I`d done now, though I might have had to pay a bit more for my PC and bought it from, say, Very PC and then load my own copy of XP onto it. That would have got round the supplier (Coles in my case) saying I couldn`t load XP onto it without voiding the warranty.
I can`t over emphasise how much I prefer XP over Vista, esp when it comes to ease of copying and moving files etc.
Having to relearn how to use a load of functions is a frustrating waste of time.......

Recommending an outdated operating system just because you can't get used to some minor differences is terrible advice.

Copy files is no more difficult in Vista, or 7 than it was in XP or 2000 - How hard is it to highlight the file, press CTRL+C to copy and then CTRL+V to paste it?

Ghozer
21-11-2009, 18:02
How do I set up my laptop on Vista to resemble, as closely as possible, my work PCs which run XP ?

The easiest thing to do to make it look like XP pretty much instantly, is use the "Windows Classic" theme instead of Windows Aero..

Then set your task bars notification area to show all the icons, then play w ith the start menu settings (Right click the task bar and click properties) - i'm sat on Windows 7 at the moment so can't remember/check all the options from the top of my head.

swarfendor43
22-11-2009, 21:09
I think this sums it all up for me!

http://www.youtube.com/user/JamesatWar#p/u/11/r43UiC882Cg

Justin Smith
23-11-2009, 08:13
Who the hell told you that changing the OS would void the warranty? I would ask them to clarify that if I was you!!!


XP or Windows 7. Try and avoid getting Vista unless you are entitled to a free Windows 7 upgrade,.

Coles told me that, and when I saked to talk to the manager he confirmed it !

Apparently I`m not entatled to a free W7 upgrade because my Vista is only the Bsaic version. I have to wonder what the point would be bearing in mind that someone on here said W7 was more like Vista than XP anyway !

Justin Smith
23-11-2009, 08:18
Recommending an outdated operating system just because you can't get used to some minor differences is terrible advice.

Copy files is no more difficult in Vista, or 7 than it was in XP or 2000 - How hard is it to highlight the file, press CTRL+C to copy and then CTRL+V to paste it?

Bearing in mind that XP did everything I wanted it to, it depends on how much one values ones time. And how frustrated one gets when one has to waste it learning a load of new stuff......

I find File and Folder tasks to be a very handy and easy way of copying/moving info.

Incidentally I`ve got a Peak Flash Disk whose security software doesn`t seem to run on Vista when it works fine on XP, is that normal ?

ccm40408
23-11-2009, 09:53
im in a minority and like vista its fine, cant undersatnd all the fuss

peekie
24-11-2009, 15:35
im in a minority and like vista its fine, cant undersatnd all the fuss i also agree that vista is just fine , i cant understand the fuss either about vista being crap ! i think people just start believing it because a few others say so :rant:

hard2miss
24-11-2009, 16:06
A lot of the Vista problems were pre service pack with lack of driver support ect, Im sure Win 7 even with the beta version there will be complaints and crashes with driver issues ect.

I use XP as its tryed and tested and running sweet for me altho I have Vista Buisness also which I can honnestly say runs ok too. The thing that really gripes people about vista and keeps them with XP is the amount of resorces Vista uses in comparison with XP. I have tryed the Win 7 Beta and found it to run a lot like xp with the vista look, Im sure a lot of vista features are in but just off by default and on at user discretion, I don't think Win 7 will be all it can be until the Beta version has ended, and the first service pack is out like it was with XP.

My Beta win 7 was allways crashing and updating, thats why I put XP back on until I get round to buying a retail version of 7.

plekhanov
24-11-2009, 16:35
A lot of the Vista problems were pre service pack with lack of driver support ect, Im sure Win 7 even with the beta version there will be complaints and crashes with driver issues ect.

I use XP as its tryed and tested and running sweet for me altho I have Vista Buisness also which I can honnestly say runs ok too. The thing that really gripes people about vista and keeps them with XP is the amount of resorces Vista uses in comparison with XP. I have tryed the Win 7 Beta and found it to run a lot like xp with the vista look, Im sure a lot of vista features are in but just off by default and on at user discretion, I don't think Win 7 will be all it can be until the Beta version has ended, and the first service pack is out like it was with XP.

My Beta win 7 was allways crashing and updating, thats why I put XP back on until I get round to buying a retail version of 7.
:huh: I was under the impression that Windows & was already out of beta which is why they're now charging money for it.

My desktop which runs 7 is rock solid and significantly more stable the my wifes laptop which runs a fully updated Vista. Of course I made my desktop out of good quality reliable components and she's got a Dell so the comparison isn't all that fair.

hard2miss
24-11-2009, 17:01
win 7 beta will run until next june or july I think.

swarfendor43
24-11-2009, 20:45
win 7 beta will run until next june or july I think.

Wrong! win 7 beta ceased to function Jun/July this year - win7 rc1 is the current release that expires on 10 March 2010 or near enough - I know it is sometime around March anyway.

3leven
25-11-2009, 12:30
Well, I will say Windows 7.
Vista is not good as many people are not using them.
WIndows XP is still in use as its the best.

highgreen
25-11-2009, 12:35
windows 7 is way better....
watch out for the vista laptops with free windows 7 upgrades as you have to pay
about £18 postage for the upgrade disc from microsoft....sneaky gits!!

steveroberts
27-12-2009, 18:23
Hi I'm not an expert but I do have a new laptop with Windows 7 - my sister's laptop has Vista and I prefer Windows 7. As I say, I'm no expert but if it helps, where I work we have an Intranet site where everyone blogs and all the IT guys on there are voting for Windows 7? I took my info from them as they should know what they're talking about? Hope this helps!

For everyone:

What advantages is there of Vista over XP...XP does everything I want it to do and, finally with the release of SP3, it is very stable too (runs office 2007, firefox, network settings are easy to set up/edit, installing printer drivers etc are easy to do too)?

What are the advantages of Windows 7 over Vista (other than system resources...or is that it?)?

I started a thread a while ago about the various releases of Windows...basically every odd version of Windows seemed to work (Original Windows (although it was very limited compared to what Apple could do at the time) Windows 3.x, Windows XP)

This suggests to me that the even number versions are new releases of an O/S which are inflicted on the public to get us (the paying customer) to find all the bugs for M/S to then release a version that actually works (sorry for the cynicism...been around IT along time now :)).

swarfendor43
27-12-2009, 23:15
For everyone:

... This suggests to me that the even number versions are new releases of an O/S which are inflicted on the public to get us (the paying customer) to find all the bugs for M/S to then release a version that actually works (sorry for the cynicism...been around IT along time now :)).

And just to add to the cynicism, it would appear that Microsoft have ditched Service Packs for new releases of the product - I understand that they are currently working on Windows 8 for release in 2012 - now if the Mayans were correct ....!!!

best regards,
swarfendor43

Berberis
27-12-2009, 23:58
I have run Vista Ultimate and now Windows 7 Ultimate on my desktop PC and my Laptop.

There is a very small difference in speed between the two OS's but one major problem I found with Windows 7 compared to Vista.

I use virtual PC's for various reasons on my desktop happily with Windows Vista. Now it would appear the replacement for Virtual PC 2007 which runs perfectly on my PC with vista will not work on my current hardware. According to the Windows Virtual PC my CPU is not compatible and thus will not virtualise.

So be warned if you use Virtual PC's in vista and want to keep using them in Windows 7 you may be disappointed. Like me you may have to decamp to VMware.

ka2010
28-12-2009, 06:43
I have laptop with vista on and my broadband and dongle work fine, i have a new laptop running w7 and although my broadband is fine i cant install my dongle to run correctly, first time i install it it runs ok, sign on again and it wont connect!! never had a problem with xp or vista though so although i myself (not speaking for others) find very little difference between the 2 os its the dongle thats the prob with w7

Plain Talker
28-12-2009, 10:51
I've hated vista, since I got this particular PC with it on, last year.

I far, far prefer using XP.

mickey finn
28-12-2009, 12:56
Both Vista and XP have never let me down but Windows 7 on one of my laptops has been an absolute pile of cack.

driller
28-12-2009, 13:33
im in a minority and like vista its fine, cant undersatnd all the fuss

I also liked vista but have moved to 7 it faster also on the copy and paste you can add move to folder or copy to folder with works by right clicking the mouse you can download it from here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-copy-to-move-to-on-windows-vista-right-click-menu/

swarfendor43
28-12-2009, 13:50
Both Vista and XP have never let me down but Windows 7 on one of my laptops has been an absolute pile of cack.

Just out of curiosity, which version of 7?

best regards,
swarfendor43

mickey finn
28-12-2009, 15:12
Just out of curiosity, which version of 7?

best regards,
swarfendor43

It is Windows 7 home premium on a HP DV7 3020. I had problems with USB connections dropping, burning discs and with internet connections dropping when connected with WiFi. I had to have it looked at by someone with far more knowledge than I have and now those problems seem to have been solved but it gets a blue screen of death every now and again so I gave it my daughter and went back to my old XP laptop.

chaddsuk
28-12-2009, 22:50
Why not give Linux a try :) , its free, more secure and once you get used to it it just blows winblows out of the water to be honest

Maybe take a look at ubuntu to start with :)... or the ultimate edition 2.5 package which is ubuntu based and comes with everything you could need pre installed...and all for free :)

info673
28-12-2009, 22:56
Hi to all
I am planning to buy new laptop.But confused little which system to buy.So please share your experience so i can get some ideas.which one is better..?

none unless you can afford 600 gbp for the best anti virus known to man run ubuntu and if ease is what your after ubuntu is virus proof and never crashes + it can install any thin if you find you aper to need windows for games get a program called wine and the best part is its a hell of a lot cheaper :banana::

swarfendor43
29-12-2009, 09:48
Why not give Linux a try :) , its free, more secure and once you get used to it it just blows winblows out of the water to be honest

Maybe take a look at ubuntu to start with :)... or the ultimate edition 2.5 package which is ubuntu based and comes with everything you could need pre installed...and all for free :)

Glad to see I am not the only Ultimate Edition fan out there! And it also comes with free Accessibility options although I must admit the latest edition does not appear to work live like 2.3 did straight out of the box (i.e., the screenreader) as it is an area I am interested in. You can also get themes for this distribution here (http://www.themelinux.com/nggallery/page-3/page-2/#Contents)

best regards,
swarfendor43

nutty34
29-12-2009, 10:08
Hi to all
I am planning to buy new laptop.But confused little which system to buy.So please share your experience so i can get some ideas.which one is better..?

I have been running Windows 7 now for about four months, much better than anything else on offer by a country mile in my honest opinion.

swarfendor43
29-12-2009, 10:15
I have been running Windows 7 now for about four months, much better than anything else on offer by a country mile in my honest opinion.

In my honest opinion (I wish I had it) the best operating system can be viewed here (http://www.youtube.com/user/amoskodare#p/a/C4DFFE6102E8B9B8/0/gD9NPPiuUec)

best regards,
swarfendor43

This-is-it
29-12-2009, 15:39
ive been using vista for a while now its ok no problems.....but i think im going for windows 7 soon cant wait....

RyoHazuki
29-12-2009, 17:39
Recently installed Windows 7 X64 and finding it rather good. Couple of issues at the start, as you'd find with any OS, but fixed them OK. Great compatibility so far with all sorts of games. Also using Ubuntu X64 and of course this is wonderful too, even faster than W7 imho. I'd recommend either of these systems to any home PC user.

Alky
30-12-2009, 07:56
Is ubunto compatable with gaming? I am wondering if this could be a way to go to free up system resources?

Thanks.

swarfendor43
30-12-2009, 11:39
Hi Alky,

There is a raft of open-source games out there (there's even a distro called Lxgamers DVD that run's live.
As for Ubuntu you would have to look at installing a paid for solution such as Cedega by transgaming.org or Cross-Over Office from Codeweavers.com - another one is PlayOnLinux - not sure if this is proprietary or Open Source as it came with my paid for version of Vector Linux 6.0 Standard Deluxe - and at the equivalent of £15 for a full OS and some Linux Games and Enlightenment a big difference from MS prices!
Warning - not all games work on Linux - yet!

Best regards,
swarfendor43

mikeybaby72
30-12-2009, 12:56
---------------- Now playing: Deep Purple – Lazy (Live) (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/deep+purple/track/lazy) via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)windows 7 :) by far

I'd go for 7, for sure!

:banana::banana::banana::banana:

Pr0187
30-12-2009, 16:50
I can sell you a key if you want, can offer full legit direct download as I'm an authorised reseller.

Alky
30-12-2009, 21:53
Many thanks for the info swarfendor43 :cool:

littleboo
30-12-2009, 21:56
WINDOWS 7....by far
Vista is the worst i have ever had!!

info673
08-01-2010, 17:12
windows is SHIP.HIGH.IN.TRANSIT

waxwonderful
08-01-2010, 22:48
Would gor for Windows 7 overall. That said if you have a decent PC and get Vista now then at least you have got it when most of the issues have been fixed / improved upon.

jaycee331
19-01-2010, 20:22
I just do not get all the fuss about this.

I ran Vista Home Premium for 2 years. The odd niggle but once I got used to the look and feel changes and UAC nag factor, it was solid as a rock. For me it was way more stable than XP - I never saw one BSOD or a non-responding process that wouldn't kill or didn't freeze the system with it.

But according to t'interwebs, Vista universally sucked. So couple of months ago I bought into all the "Windows 7 is so much better than Vista" hype and bought (yes bought) the upgrade.

So what's different? After I installed it first thing I noticed was the RUINED taskbar, couldn't get used to the new way of ordering and laying things out. I get more used to it, but still not sure how it is supposed to be an improvement. The new Programs bar is a pain too.

Probably is a bit leaner and faster. UAC defaults have been toned down but not sure this isn't bad, because an hour without AV and I received a rootkit. I swear. Nice to see a 2009 OS is no more secure then.

Other than that I was left thinking what on earth all the "Win 7 is so much better than Vista" stuff is about.... I even had go google to check some detailed comparisons to learn the exact improvements, and as I type on this right now, continue to be hopelessly underwhelmed.