I nominate the 97 route, I have been in town today (19/11/09) and arrived at stop MF3 in Cumberland St. to return home at 12.50pm. The service due off High St. at 12.50 didn't show, neither did the 13.05 and the 13.20 arrived late at MF3 at 13.30 which meant I waited 40 mins for a 15 min service . . .
. . . Grrr !

The 97 tends to be worse after 6pm. The 53 tends to be late every time I need to catch it.

the 53 is terrible i used to have to catch it to college in a morning i used to walk from the term at lowedges to norton pub 2 catch any other bus & walk from town

the 53 is terrible i used to have to catch it to college in a morning i used to walk from the term at lowedges to norton pub 2 catch any other bus & walk from town

Must admit I get sick of waiting and end up walking to Hillsborough. The 20 is also unreliable at times.

The 33 is a joke - they're every 30 mins and now it's dark, wet and cold they are often missing. I just missed the 5pm one on Castlegate and had to wait for an hour as the 5:30PM bus was missing. This happened quite often last winter too.

I rely on this bus so much to get to and from work as other bus routes are a bit out of the way (I suffer with arthritis so walking can be a problem) and I'd be grateful if Stagecoach started to use this bus route cos their tickets are so much cheaper. I pay £58 each month for this hit and miss First service.

If I ring them to make enquiries I'm just told when to expect the next bus, if I email a complaint the reply tells me how many times I've contacted them and they will take my enquiry into consideration. Then I hear nothing more from them and the bus still goes missing.

Also, 33 drivers have been terminating on Arundel Gate and turning passengers off the bus so they have to wait for the next bus or find an alternative, what is going on?

I'd love to know what Last are actually doing with the 33 route. It wasn't long ago (last month) that they were scrapping the route, then all the changes never took place.

TM Travel tend to run on time when they take over the route on a night, maybe they should be allowed to run it during the day as well.

I'll wager none of our illustrious city councillors use the buses to get to and from their meetings.

Perhaps if they had to we might see them take some interest in the plight of their citizens and the total waste of space occupied by First's management.

I'll wager none of our illustrious city councillors use the buses to get to and from their meetings.

Perhaps if they had to we might see them take some interest in the plight of their citizens and the total waste of space occupied by First's management.


I wouldn't be so sure. They get free bus travel after all.

I nominate the 47, every 12 minutes? maybe 40 minutes? maybe 1 minute?

Different every time you catch it.

I'll wager none of our illustrious city councillors use the buses to get to and from their meetings.

Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea, and I wonder if many councillors actually do catch the bus

I nominate the 45 and 46 that go along Carlisle Street up to Wincobank (I think?)

I nominate the 45 and 46 that go along Carlisle Street up to Wincobank (I think?)

Agreed athough I also used to get the 97 and 53 so I know what people are talking about with them as well.

Strangely enough both the 45 and 46 have been running perfectly (in my experience) for the last few months right up until the clocks changed. Since then they've frequently been late (yes I know the argument about traffic but it doesn't seem to stop other buses on busier routes), missing completely or my personal favourite, they arrive into Firth Park and then go out of service, leaving dozens of people at the stop on Bellhouse Road fuming.

I'd nominate the 21 it is late more often than not & the buses they send are ancient.

The problem with late buses at this time of year is caused by the fact that there is more traffic on the roads because people are generally not on holiday now. Also now that it is dark, wet & cold in the mornings people tend to take their cars rather than stand at bus stops, this adds to the traffic and makes buses late.

I think all the First bus drivers might be like this fella :hihi:

http://ericthebusdriver.fotopic.net/

I nominate the 47, every 12 minutes? maybe 40 minutes? maybe 1 minute?

Different every time you catch it.

I avoid the 47 if I can, but the last three times I've caught it, a bus has been missing. Actually 4 buses in total, as a 48 also failed to turn up heading the other way.

47/48 without a doubt never turns up on time and then two turn up

I nominate the 47, every 12 minutes? maybe 40 minutes? maybe 1 minute?

Different every time you catch it.

which affects the 48 as well

lol .... now they have introduced this "drivegreen" bo!!ox there will be a few more missing

lol .... now they have introduced this "drivegreen" bo!!ox there will be few more missing Please explain this sounds interesting?

look on the dashboard of any bus

look on the dashboard of any bus For what? Please do not leave me in that much suspense. Are bus drivers being asked to drive with economy in mind?

47-48 service is unreal i saw 4 come at once a few weeks back about 5 stops after the terminus on Leighton Road, what's that all about?
Worse route in Sheffield by a distance.

47-48 service is unreal i saw 4 come at once a few weeks back about 5 stops after the terminus on Leighton Road, what's that all about?
Worse route in Sheffield by a distance.

HAAAAAA
since when has the terminus for this said excellent service been on leighton road ???
tell me will you NOW!!!!

47-48 service is unreal i saw 4 come at once a few weeks back about 5 stops after the terminus on Leighton Road, what's that all abou?
Worse route in Sheffield by a distance. That is often seen on the "every few minutes" bus routes. All or nothing is the normal. What is the solution?

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

you a driver ? with these comments i think you could be do they provide a service ? so why does other companys manage to keep to a timetable? basically the problem is the routes are too long and first dont care about the pasengers .

ok , tell me how another company can get up barnsley rd at 3pm ?

yeah im a driver

do stagecoach/TM/hulleys/powells/ or any other operator have some sorta magic bus shaped wand they can shake that as-if-by-magic keeps them on time ?


one seriously thinks that some folk talk out of the parts of their body that should be reserved for hitting (oops missed an S out)

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

You are obviously a bus driver, you have that arrogant attitude that most of the bus drivers have. Oh what charming customer service skills you all have.:loopy:

ok , tell me how another company can get up barnsley rd at 3pm ?

yeah im a driver

do stagecoach/TM/hulleys/powells/ or any other operator have some sorta magic bus shaped wand they can shake that as-if-by-magic keeps them on time ?


one seriously thinks that some folk talk out of the parts of their body that should be reserved for hitting (oops missed an S out)

dont know but there not as late as last busses are they? what iggnorrant person you are btw typical driver im best attitude ? you drivers deserve nothing except to learn to go a customer service course.

You are obviously a bus driver, you have that arrogant attitude that most of the bus drivers have. Oh what charming customer service skills you all have.:loopy:

the fact that i wait for elderly/infirm/disabled passengers to sit down should give you some inkling that my customer services are way up to standard .... folk like you with your arrogance & ineptitude & utter pig ignorance should be banned from even appearing in public
all you want to do is slag folk off that do a very stressful & utterly responsible job ...... i would seriously love to see you do the job to the standards that i & the majority of others do
some people are pathetic , you are a prime example dear
STRIEDER !!!

dont know but there not as late as last busses are they? what iggnorrant person you are btw typical driver im best attitude ? you drivers deserve nothing except to learn to go a customer service course.

could you retype that in some form of english please

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

Drunk???????

the fact that i wait for elderly/infirm/disabled passengers to sit down should give you some inkling that my customer services are way up to standard .... folk like you with your arrogance & ineptitude & utter pig ignorance should be banned from even appearing in public
all you want to do is slag folk off that do a very stressful & utterly responsible job ...... i would seriously love to see you do the job to the standards that i & the majority of others do
some people are pathetic , you are a prime example dear
STRIEDER !!!

Just the kind of reply i was expecting from a typical arrogant brain dead bus driver.If you know your so perfect why are you biting at the comments being posted on here?Take a bottle of happy pills you could do with them.Oh and just for the record my customer service skills are A1 thankyou very much,i also know how to say please and thankyou to the customers i serve,bye bye.

Forget race, religion or politics, there's no more contentious a subject on SF than buses and bus drivers (or so it seems).

I quite like the 51 bus service if that will placate anyone, but the 47/48 really is dire.

The 33 is a joke - they're every 30 mins and now it's dark, wet and cold they are often missing. I just missed the 5pm one on Castlegate and had to wait for an hour as the 5:30PM bus was missing. This happened quite often last winter too.

Also, 33 drivers have been terminating on Arundel Gate and turning passengers off the bus so they have to wait for the next bus or find an alternative, what is going on?

The 33 splits at night from 1800 with the southern end being run by TM travel on behalf of the PTE. This service runs between town and Chancet wood. At 2100 First terminate the northern end and TM then take this end over as well and the service becomes a through service again.

I'd love to know what Last are actually doing with the 33 route. It wasn't long ago (last month) that they were scrapping the route, then all the changes never took place.

TM Travel tend to run on time when they take over the route on a night, maybe they should be allowed to run it during the day as well.

In January the route is being split. The Southern end remains as the 33, The Northern end (to Hillsborough) becomes service 34 and will be run seperately. There will be no more through journies. The evening service will continue to be provided by TM travel using the above service numbers.

I would personally nominate the 83/8. If you live beyond Hunters Bar it is very hard to get a bus home at night as most turn round at Hunters Bar in order to get back to town on time. There are times you can wait over half an hour when they are supposed to be every 5 minutes.
I now pay more and get a much more reliable service from First. (Not perfect, but much more reliable).

could you retype that in some form of english please

Why don't you try that before telling others to do so?

(Technically, it is a form of English anyway but I don't care.) :)

could you retype that in some form of english please

could you stop be arrogant person then?

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

kettle calling the saucepan is this english you typed? and by having a go at the grammer declares you lost the argument

the numbers 57 /58 stocksbridge

******* First buses from Firth Park to Meadowhall are a bloody disgrace. :rant: Three of them in a row went out of service tonight as soon as they entered Firth Park shops. There must have been 50 people waiting for them in the end, not counting the dozen or so that got so pee'd off they ordered taxis.

A 25-30 minute journey took 1 and a half hours.

I couldn't give a damn if traffic around Meadowhall was a little heavier than usual (the usual excuse) because every one of them arrived more or less as they were scheduled to and there were bugger all traffic jams between Firth Park and Meadowhall. They simply ignoring 50+ paying passengers who just wanted to catch a bus from their workplaces and college to their homes in Brightside and Wincobank or their connecting buses in Meadowhall.

They treat us with contempt and I've had enough.

i would definitely say the 47/48, the amount of times i've been waiting ages for 1 and 3 show up at once is ridiculous

******* First buses from Firth Park to Meadowhall are a bloody disgrace. :rant: Three of them in a row went out of service tonight as soon as they entered Firth Park shops. There must have been 50 people waiting for them in the end, not counting the dozen or so that got so pee'd off they ordered taxis.

A 25-30 minute journey took 1 and a half hours.

I couldn't give a damn if traffic around Meadowhall was a little heavier than usual (the usual excuse) because every one of them arrived more or less as they were scheduled to and there were bugger all traffic jams between Firth Park and Meadowhall. They simply ignoring 50+ paying passengers who just wanted to catch a bus from their workplaces and college to their homes in Brightside and Wincobank or their connecting buses in Meadowhall.

They treat us with contempt and I've had enough.



You say that your 25-30min Journey turns into an hour and a half journey, instead of slagging the bus drivers off, have you considered contacting the depot? many enquiring as to why three of them went out of service? maybe a reasonable explaiation is offered to you? and at least if there are problems, the MANAGERS will be made aware and can monitor, and most importantly maybe IMPROVE the service on offer!

The 94/5 route never runs to time.

The timetable is on the bus stops to just rub your nose in it !

Can I nominate SCT's route 10 as it makes any First service look excellent. And their drivers have a lower IQ than any those on First's payroll. This evening I waited for the 1803 departure towards Crookes from the back of Tesco Infirmary Road but it failed to turn up. Two of their vehicles sped past in the other direction and when I asked the driver of the next ex-Hillsborough service he had no idea where it was or how to get another bus from their depot which is about 150 metres from the stop in question.

Can I nominate SCT's route 10 as it makes any of First service look excellent. And their drivers have a lower IQ than any those on First's payroll. This evening I waited for the 1803 departure towards Crookes from the back of Tesco Infirmary Road but it failed to turn up. Two of their vehicles sped past in the other direction and when I asked the driver of the next ex-Hillsborough service he had no idea where it was or how to get another bus from their depot which is about 150 metres from the stop in question.

What do you mean by get another bus from their depot?
any how do you know he has a lower IQ than anyone on first payroll?
I though this thread was to nominate the most unreliable First Bus service not verbally attack people, and make remarks about people mental ability! :loopy:

HAAAAAA
since when has the terminus for this said excellent service been on leighton road ???
tell me will you NOW!!!!

I think you need a few reading lessons clegnut, i said 5 stops after the terminus on Leighton Road, meaning they must have all set off from the terminus together, why would i say theres a terminus on Leighton Road when i live on it, get real keyboard warrior.
There you go ive told you :hihi:

i love these threads ....... if u lot are so freaking perfect why dont you join the ranks & put all what you think is wrong to right .... you would soon see how it happens ...... a bus may have to wait a little longer for elderly persons / wheelchair users to become comfy ... then there will be the inevitable car driver (more often than not a taxi) that thinks he owns the road blocking a stop (thus elderly & infirm take longer to board/alight) or making it impossible for a bus to get through at all or at very slow speed ... all the time the following buses are catching up ....
then 9am times ... the first buses for OAP passes take longer as i feel certain you can imagine .... look at things in the cold light of day it aint rocket science .... fair enough there will be the odd driver that wants to dawdle about .... roadworks & delivery vehicles slow stuff up too .... it may have gone by the time next bus is due ... you ppl look at what is under your nose .... why ?
there is far more to a bus route than your stop .... there are plenty of folk around who understand & accept this .... so why are the bloody majority of folk who want to do sod all but gripe about buses on this site utter morons ?
buy a day tkt & ride round 1 & see what happens all day ........ you try (if you have one) driving a car up barnsley rd at school chucking out time then talk about delays ... cars can take detours / alternative routes to avoid such delays .... bloody buses cant

Maybe the big gaffers should have as much passion as you about your job eh, doubt that m8 your just the slave to them, stop being so negative to isssues what people have about buses, 95% of them are good points.
At the end of the day First are rubbish and have been for years in Sheffield simple as :P

What do you mean by get another bus from their depot?

According to this map (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?daddr=Philadelphia,+Upperthorpe+Road%2FMartin +Street+(NW-bound)+%4053.388950,-1.483550&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=10+Montgomery+Ter+Rd,+Sheffield,+South+Yorks hire,+S6+3BU%E2%80%8E&f=d&hl=en&dq=sheffield+community+transport&sll=53.389382,-1.482509&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&ie=UTF8&z=19) driving a bus from A (their depot) to B (where I and three other passengers were waiting).

any how do you know he has a lower IQ than anyone on first payroll?

From the conversation I had with the driver compared with my experiences with First would suggest that he does (or was acting like he does).

I though this thread was to nominate the most unreliable First Bus service not verbally attack people, and make remarks about people mental ability! :loopy:

But I have found someone else's bus service to to be far more unreliable than any of my own experiences of those run by First. And I was verbally attacking very poor customer service.

So you wanted him to get another bus from their depot to take you on your journey or wanted to know about othe ways to complete your journey???

you say you was verbally attacking poor customer service but what poor customer service did he provide??

Can I nominate SCT's route 10 as it makes any First service look excellent. And their drivers have a lower IQ than any those on First's payroll. This evening I waited for the 1803 departure towards Crookes from the back of Tesco Infirmary Road but it failed to turn up. Two of their vehicles sped past in the other direction and when I asked the driver of the next ex-Hillsborough service he had no idea where it was or how to get another bus from their depot which is about 150 metres from the stop in question.

Well I managed to catch it. It was running late but most buses do on a Friday rush hour.
Why would another driver on another route know where your bus was and because he didn't know, why does that give him a low i.q? Did he use long words that you couldn't understand?
All the drivers i have ever met have been sound and time keeping spot on.

Id say the 47 is one of the worst. There have been times my mother in law has waiting up to almost an hour to get a bus into town.

The 53 used to be loads worse, but i think since they added more double decker buses on the route its improved it a great deal.

The 20/As can be miserable at rush hour. It seems like all the double deckers theyve put on the route run at the wrong times. Always a half hour before/after theyre really needed. Those go empty while the normal buses are packed to the brims.

Oh and does anyone use the 51? Ill be waiting at the bottom of the moor at night and theres always like a million of them that pass and the buses are always empty.

i would definitely say the 47/48, the amount of times i've been waiting ages for 1 and 3 show up at once is ridiculous

I walk an extra 10 minutes so that I can catch the 51 from Gleadless Townend rather than catch the 47/48.

have you considered contacting the depot? many enquiring as to why three of them went out of service? maybe a reasonable explaiation is offered to you? and at least if there are problems, the MANAGERS will be made aware and can monitor, and most importantly maybe IMPROVE the service on offer!

You're assuming that the managers even care.

Oh and does anyone use the 51? Ill be waiting at the bottom of the moor at night and theres always like a million of them that pass and the buses are always empty.

See my response above.

I have to say the 56 Wybourn is atrocious,they supposed to run every 12 mins ,utter rubbish when I catch it ,it usually at least 30 mins and thats the only bus service on wybourn unless you want a 15 min hike down to the bottom and back,think Iwill move to woodhouse ,they seem to have a excellant service,they run about every 2 min from market,buses have no excuse now with all the bus gates and I have to say some of the drivers dont deserve a job,last week the bus was stationery at the bus stop withn the doors closed I think he was just waiting for his time,when a lady came to the doors he totally ignored her so I said in a very loud voice "excuse me someone wants to get on" he totally ignored me so I said it again ,still no response and he drove off and left her,I hope she reported him ,as I was going to have a word when I got off but they changed drivers so I told the other driver when I got up to get off and he just shrugged his shoulders and said perhaps he was having a bad day,we can all have bad days but most of us dont take it out on every one else.

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Originally Posted by dink
have you considered contacting the depot? many enquiring as to why three of them went out of service? maybe a reasonable explaiation is offered to you? and at least if there are problems, the MANAGERS will be made aware and can monitor, and most importantly maybe IMPROVE the service on offer!

You're assuming that the managers even care

they DO care, as if they are running an unrealable service and people DO complain, instead of Moaning to others then the Transport executive can end up getting involved and if there is wrong doing on there behalf (not including delays due to traffic problems) they can receive fines and can eventually lose their operating license which can cause them to stop trading, so please dont assume that Managers dont care, write to Brandon Jones and tell him there are problems, if they dont know about them they can try and fix them or review them can they??

The 52 route used to be great but recently a service that should be every 7 mninutes is now about every 15-20 mins if you're lucky!

I agree totally about the 33, the 9:04 from Albert Road is my perfect bus for work, except that it dosnt turn up till about half past ! And the 47s are all or nothing, just last night i wanted one from pond street, the screen says next one in 27 minutes so i need to get home and start walking up to fitzallan square for a taxi and as im just at the taxi rank a big shiny 47 rolls on by !!

The 52 route used to be great but recently a service that should be every 7 mninutes is now about every 15-20 mins if you're lucky!

Road works on Staniforth Road and Atercliffe road spring to mind, where there are temp traffic lights and only one way traffic, been like it for months on and off, but its worst at the bottom near the tram lines as buses get blocked and cant move untill the traffic waiting by the feeder light to turn left up towards Woodburn road have gone.

Well I managed to catch it. It was running late but most buses do on a Friday rush hour.

Are you sure about that - the one I caught was the one sceduled for an hour later (which terminates at Heeley and had is destination displayed as such) which was only two or three minutes late.


Why would another driver on another route know where your bus was and because he didn't know
I would expect the driver to have some form of cab to shore communication to get in touch with the depot - especially when the depot is close to the stop in question. Close enough to request that a relief vehicle is sent out - which I did suggest to the driver.

Road works on Staniforth Road and Atercliffe road spring to mind, where there are temp traffic lights and only one way traffic, been like it for months on and off, but its worst at the bottom near the tram lines as buses get blocked and cant move untill the traffic waiting by the feeder light to turn left up towards Woodburn road have gone.

Thats fine but the Stagecoach 52s seem to be very frequent still?

I would expect the driver to have some form of cab to shore communication to get in touch with the depot - especially when the depot is close to the stop in question. Close enough to request that a relief vehicle is sent out - which I did suggest to the driver.

suggest to the driver? he has the power to make tho decisions does he? :roll:

Number 1.

Only every hour, never on time, sometimes not in service, sometimes dont even show.

And grumpy bus drivers.....! a smile does not take alot of effort, try telling that to em.

they DO care, as if they are running an unrealable service and people DO complain, instead of Moaning to others then the Transport executive can end up getting involved

A friend of mine works for First in Rotherham so the following are his opinions, as seen from the inside, not mine.

(a) First management don't care about anything except profit.

(b) The Transport Executive is a paper tiger.

(c) I won't tell you what he thinks of Brandon Jones! :o

As I say, these are his opinions. If I didn't know him, my knowledge of First would be much reduced.

I would expect the driver to have some form of cab to shore communication to get in touch with the depot - especially when the depot is close to the stop in question. Close enough to request that a relief vehicle is sent out - which I did suggest to the driver.


There are quite a few problems with this. You are assuming that the depot had a) a spare bus, and b) a spare driver.
As has been stated there are always problems on a Friday so it is fair to say that other services had also been affected. If so, the controllers were probably up to their eyes making sure that drivers did not exceed the maximum driving time and the best possible level of service overall was provided.
Not an easy job at the best of times, but on a busy Friday that just decides to go bad as last Friday did, virtually impossible.
It is very easy to feel put out when you only see a small part of a very big picture.
I have experience of this type of work with a smaller company than First and can assure you that best intentions are uppermost in the mind, but, damage limitation is often what emerges.

A friend of mine works for First in Rotherham so the following are his opinions, as seen from the inside, not mine.

(a) First management don't care about anything except profit.

(b) The Transport Executive is a paper tiger.

(c) I won't tell you what he thinks of Brandon Jones! :o

As I say, these are his opinions. If I didn't know him, my knowledge of First would be much reduced.

I take your comments on board but there are always procedures to follow when making a complaint, and moaning on here is not in the order, i just get sick of it being the DRIVERS fault all the time when half the time it is nothing to do with him.

and Brandon Jones, well my stepdad works at Rotherham and what he says about him isnt typeable :hihi: